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Re: Linux kernel complete licence check, Q.18
On Sat, Nov 23, 2002 at 04:39:24PM +0100, Giacomo Catenazzi wrote: linux/init/version.c: /* * linux/init/version.c * * Copyright (C) 1992 Theodore Ts'o * * May be freely distributed as part of Linux. */ 1) Not DFSG, because restricted to a specific use: Linux. 2) freely distributed doesn't include modify and distribute modified copy, right? A simple question, at the time of the writing of this, was Linux already under the GPL? If it was, then intent is pretty clear due to the viral nature of the GPL. Zephaniah E. Hull. ciao giacomo -- 1024D/E65A7801 Zephaniah E. Hull [EMAIL PROTECTED] 92ED 94E4 B1E6 3624 226D 5727 4453 008B E65A 7801 CCs of replies from mailing lists are requested. Here's your cable. We made it fifty feet long, just in case. In case what, in case tectonic movement makes the serial ports farther apart? -- Carl Jacobs on ASR. pgpwYImgm3SYl.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Freeradius and Debian
Previously ninewands wrote: Just a thought ... how difficult would it be to port the postgres ssl support to link to OpenSSL? Perhaps you mean GnuTLS? I'm not sure if we want to do that for stability reasons.. I GnuTLS is already stable enough for production use. Wichert. -- Wichert Akkerman [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.wiggy.net/ A random hacker
#153467: libjpeg62: JPEG is patent-encumbered
severity 153467 serious thanks Hello developers, The JPEG commitee has released a press kit about the patend issue, see http://www.jpeg.org/newsrel4.html. Could someone that understand legalese make a summary for further discussion about what to do Debian-wise? Cheers, -- Bill. [EMAIL PROTECTED] There is no record of the [EMAIL PROTECTED] package, and no bugs have been filed against it.
Re: Linux kernel complete licence check, Q.18
On Sun, Nov 24, 2002 at 04:18:29AM -0500, Zephaniah E. Hull wrote: On Sat, Nov 23, 2002 at 04:39:24PM +0100, Giacomo Catenazzi wrote: linux/init/version.c: /* * linux/init/version.c * * Copyright (C) 1992 Theodore Ts'o * * May be freely distributed as part of Linux. */ 1) Not DFSG, because restricted to a specific use: Linux. 2) freely distributed doesn't include modify and distribute modified copy, right? A simple question, at the time of the writing of this, was Linux already under the GPL? If it was, then intent is pretty clear due to the viral nature of the GPL. Even if it isn't clear, Ted Ts'o is now a DD, so it shouldn't be too hard to find him and ask him. ;P -- Steve Langasek postmodern programmer pgpdjOh9PFswO.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: #153467: libjpeg62: JPEG is patent-encumbered
On Sun, Nov 24, 2002 at 04:23:53PM +0100, Bill Allombert wrote: The JPEG commitee has released a press kit about the patend issue, see http://www.jpeg.org/newsrel4.html. Could someone that understand legalese make a summary for further discussion about what to do Debian-wise? It's a bit of a non-statement. The only part that seems to actually say anything is this: [...] and currently over 20 organisations, holding many patents in this area, have agreed to allow licensed use of their patents and other intellectual property in connection with baseline implementations of this standard free of license fees or royalty fees. If free of license fees or royalty fees means actually free, then this shouldn't be a problem. They don't seem to give specifics anywhere, though. Of course, this statement says nothing about patents held by _other_ organizations. In fact, it goes out of its way to say nothing about that. My guess is that the issue is still open. The first paragraph stresses that the committee has received no formal notification of a patent claim. It might be that they have a strategic reason for wanting Forgent Networks to go through ISO's official channels. I think Debian's best strategy is to wait and see some more. Richard Braakman
Re: Linux kernel complete licence check, Q.13
Giacomo Catenazzi [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It seems to me DFSG compatiblem and also GPL compatile, right? Right.
Re: Linux kernel complete licence check, Q.14
Giacomo Catenazzi [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I think there is no problems. The This code is basically GPL means that some of the new code is GPL but the original is licensed with a BSD licence (the revised one), right? The basically GPL seems to be essentially irrelevant; but it is still free.
Re: Linux kernel complete licence check, Q.15
Giacomo Catenazzi [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: This last sentence cause me some trouble. It seems so me that caldera provide us some code at no charge (to use), but no right to modify/distribute. Anyway, the top we read: All the material in this file is subject to the Gnu license version 2. Should I take it as GPLv2? I think so. The no charge is really connected to the warranty statement, and is designed to prevent people from wanting the kinds of warranties that (in some jurisdictions) must be attached to anything which is offered for sale.
Re: Linux kernel complete licence check, Q.16
Giacomo Catenazzi [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: First paragraph: ok. Second paragraph: (legally should the this copyright replaced with this licence?) Yes, that would be better. But the trouble: Function 'hash' has unknow origin So IMHO, IANAL, we should not assume GPL not GPL compatible license ot the code, right? That's correct, we should not make such an assumption. So the function is very simple, enought simple to be free? Anyone kwnow a similar function but GPLized or PD (to replace this function)? Being simple really doesn't matter. However, glibc contains the function, so I'd just snarf the version from there.
Re: Linux kernel complete licence check, Q.17
Giacomo Catenazzi [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The license tell us only Use, so I don't think it is enought free. But the table is simple, the formulas are writen, so should I reprogram this table? Hrm. Maybe change it to have a program that generates the table? Then it's obviously not a copy. Can such data be copyrighted? Thorny question. Perhaps ask the author if he'd be willing to let you put a BSD-ish license on it?
Re: Linux kernel complete licence check, Q.18
Giacomo Catenazzi [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: linux/init/version.c: /* * linux/init/version.c * * Copyright (C) 1992 Theodore Ts'o * * May be freely distributed as part of Linux. */ 1) Not DFSG, because restricted to a specific use: Linux. 2) freely distributed doesn't include modify and distribute modified copy, right? Right on both counts.
Re: Linux kernel complete licence check, Q.13
Scripsit Giacomo Catenazzi [EMAIL PROTECTED] The only zlib.h file in kernel sources: It seems to me DFSG compatiblem and also GPL compatile, right? Yes. -- Henning Makholm ... popping pussies into pies Wouldn't do in my shop just the thought of it's enough to make you sick and I'm telling you them pussy cats is quick ...
Re: Linux kernel complete licence check, Q.14
Scripsit Giacomo Catenazzi [EMAIL PROTECTED] The This code is basically GPL means that some of the new code is GPL but the original is licensed with a BSD licence (the revised one), right? That would be the most likely interpretation. If it were to mean GPL with some additional restrictions one would expect to find a reference to these restrictions. -- Henning Makholm Panic. Alarm. Incredulity. *Thing* has not enough legs. Topple walk. Fall over not. Why why why? What *is* it?
Re: Linux kernel complete licence check, Q.15
Scripsit Giacomo Catenazzi [EMAIL PROTECTED] * This code is derived from work by * Ross Biro : Writing the original IP stack * Fred Van Kempen : Tidying up the TCP/IP * All the material in this file is subject to the Gnu license version 2. * Portions Copyright (c) 1995 Caldera, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Neither Greg Page nor Caldera, Inc. admit liability nor provide * warranty for any of this software. This material is provided * AS-IS and at no charge. This last sentence cause me some trouble. I read it as standard warranty disclaimer language. My immediate interpretation is that Caldera must have given the later author permission to release under GPL - but since there is an email address for the Caldera gyu in question, it might not hurt to write him and ask if that interpretation is correct. -- Henning Makholm ... a specialist in the breakaway oxidation phenomena of certain nuclear reactors.
Re: Linux kernel complete licence check, Q.15
Giacomo Catenazzi wrote: * All the material in this file is subject to the Gnu license version 2. I think this is ambiguous. Both the GNU GPL or the GNU LGPL have a version 2 revision; the currently in-use and well-known GNU GPL and an older release of the GNU LGPL as the FSF tells us: Between version 2 and 2.1, the GNU LGPL was renamed from the GNU Library General Public License to the GNU Lesser General Public License to better reflect its actual purpose. on http://www.gnu.org/licenses/license-list.html their list of various licenses (and comments about them). I don't think it's much to ask that GNU GPL be specified clearly. I also think it's wise to copy the text at the end of the GPL to indicate licensing under the GPL.
Re: Linux kernel complete licence check, Q.15
On Nov 24, J.B. Nicholson-Owens wrote: Giacomo Catenazzi wrote: * All the material in this file is subject to the Gnu license version 2. I think this is ambiguous. Both the GNU GPL or the GNU LGPL have a version 2 revision; the currently in-use and well-known GNU GPL and an older release of the GNU LGPL as the FSF tells us: In the context of the Linux kernel, the GPL/LGPL issue is not important, as the LGPL-GPL conversion clause means both can be treated as the GPL. Of course, with the FDL on the way, that adds some ambiguity; it's best to get a clarification from the original author(s) or copyright holder(s), if possible. Chris -- Chris Lawrence [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.lordsutch.com/chris/ Computer Systems Manager, Physics and Astronomy, Univ. of Mississippi 125B Lewis Hall - 662-915-5765
