Re: sift and blimps license interpretation - can Debian redistribute these?

2012-02-19 Thread Paul Wise
The ftp.ncbi.nih.gov site seems to be down.

Many parts of the license imply distribution is allowed but I cannot
find any explicit distribution grant.

Personally I would not bother trying to do anything other than getting
upstream to switch to a known free software licence like the GNU GPL.

Getting a policy and culture of usage of using standard free software
licenses adopted by the NCBI/NIH/etc would also be a useful thing to
work on.

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Re: sift and blimps license interpretation - can Debian redistribute these?

2012-02-19 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi Laszlo,

I'm forewarding this to debian-legal list [keeping
debian-med-packag...@lists.alioth.debian.org in CC would be great]
because I do not feel fully competent for this question.

However, I think in any case it is worth trying to educate authors about
the advantages of a free license.  We had some successful and also some
unsuccessful trials here on this list.  If you are writing like "I'm
writing you on behalf of the Debian Med team ..." (you will find this
string in the list archive when seeking for it) this could have at least
one positive effect that upstream is learning about our project and
might change their mind over time.

Kind regards

  Andreas.

- Forwarded message from Laszlo Kajan  -

Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2012 12:23:07 +0100
From: Laszlo Kajan 
To: Debian Med Packaging Team ,
Tim Booth , "H. Soon Gweon" 
Subject: sift and blimps license interpretation - can Debian redistribute these?

Dear fellow packagers!

I am not certain about the interpretation of the attached sift/blimps license 
(ftp://ftp.ncbi.nih.gov/repository/blocks/unix/blimps/LICENSE - I
am packaging these right now). The license is not free that's for sure, but:

* Can Debian redistribute it at all? - in other words: can we have sift and 
blimps in non-free?

This seems to be the relevant bit:

> 2. [...] b.  Licensee may not charge any fee or royalty for copies
> of the Program or Derivative Work.  Licensee is authorized to
> sublicense the Program and any Derivative Work to third parties on a
> royalty-free basis subject to the terms of this license but may not
> otherwise distribute the Program or any Derivative Work.
> Notwithstanding the foregoing, Licensee may be reimbursed for any
> actual expenses it incurs in reproducing or delivering a copy of the
> Program or any Derivative Work.

Is redistribution 'sublicensing'? Debian does redistribution on a 'royalty-free 
basis', so my judgement is that Debian is allowed to
redistribute sift/blimps.

If Debian is not allowed to redistribute it, probably neither is Ubuntu or 
Biolinux.

Thank you for your help in advance!

Best,

Laszlo



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