Aw: Re: jmapviewer: bing logo
hi Ian,
Sorry but I've worked ~2 years on the freeplane package for it to be in jessie/main,
und we're ~2 weeks from the jessie freeze, so if including the logo is DFSG compliant
then that is enough for me.
=> So I see two options:
1. I get a positive reply from Microsoft soon --> I will include the image.
2. I will remove the logo and tilesource/BingAerialTileSource.java from the jmapviewer package,
and apply a patch to josm so that it works without it
(@Sebastiaan or another GIS member: could you help me with this?
I think we can already prepare this!)
Best Regards,
Felix Natter
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 16. Oktober 2014 um 01:56 Uhr
Von: "Ian Jackson"
An: "Felix Natter"
Cc: debian-legal@lists.debian.org, "Debian GIS Project"
Betreff: Re: jmapviewer: bing logo
Felix Natter writes ("jmapviewer: bing logo"):
> I as the package author originally thought that we should not advertise
> bing, but Sebastiaan from debian-gis argues that we violated MS terms of
> use by not including it (please see the PDF link included in that mail):
I agree that we should avoid advertising Bing. (For reasons of
principle, but not DFSG reasons.) But if the software can display
Bing maps we shouldn't disable that. So there is a conversation to be
had about exactly how that works in the UI.
One easy option would be to put the Bing compatibility stuff in a
separate package in non-free.
Another possibility would be to have the program download the logo
itself from the Bing website somewhere, along with the Bing map data,
when the Bing option is used, but such a thing ought to be in contrib.
Ian.
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Re: jmapviewer: bing logo
Felix Natter writes ("jmapviewer: bing logo"):
> I as the package author originally thought that we should not advertise
> bing, but Sebastiaan from debian-gis argues that we violated MS terms of
> use by not including it (please see the PDF link included in that mail):
I agree that we should avoid advertising Bing. (For reasons of
principle, but not DFSG reasons.) But if the software can display
Bing maps we shouldn't disable that. So there is a conversation to be
had about exactly how that works in the UI.
One easy option would be to put the Bing compatibility stuff in a
separate package in non-free.
Another possibility would be to have the program download the logo
itself from the Bing website somewhere, along with the Bing map data,
when the Bing option is used, but such a thing ought to be in contrib.
Ian.
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Re: jmapviewer: bing logo
> we are discussing whether or not the bing logo image [1] should be shipped > with > the "jmapviewer" package in main. > > I as the package author originally thought that we should not advertise > bing, but Sebastiaan from debian-gis argues that we violated MS terms of > use by not including it (please see the PDF link included in that mail): Since the license to the bing logo would prevent modification, then if you had to keep the image, it would be non-free, but redistributable. A text string would be fine, if you got Microsoft's permission. Also, this is a crazy idea, but it just might work: the license states that you can change to a text string when local law prohibits you from displaying logos. What if we found someone in a country where their local law prohibited them from doing so, got them to change it to a text string, and send it back to us? You still wouldn't be able to remove the text string, although I don't think that that would be a problem. That being said, IANAL and this is not legal advice, so perhaps someone can confirm that the above would work. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-legal-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/543ed05f.9090...@bitmessage.ch
[jmapviewer] Bing Maps logo
Dear Ladies and Gentlemen, could you please tell us under what license we can distribute the Bing logo [1] (and the "BingAerialTileSource" [2]) in JMapViewer [3] as part of the Debian linux distribution? (JMapViewer is Open Source (GPL), and we hope that distributing the bing maps logo along with it doesn't change this) [1] http://svn.openstreetmap.org/applications/viewer/jmapviewer/src/org/openstreetmap/gui/jmapviewer/images/bing_maps.png [2] http://svn.openstreetmap.org/applications/viewer/jmapviewer/src/org/openstreetmap/gui/jmapviewer/tilesources/BingAerialTileSource.java [3] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/JMapViewer Thank you very much, Best Regards, -- Felix Natter -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-legal-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/87k341unpi@bitburger.home.felix
jmapviewer: bing logo
Dear debian-legal experts, we are discussing whether or not the bing logo image [1] should be shipped with the "jmapviewer" package in main. I as the package author originally thought that we should not advertise bing, but Sebastiaan from debian-gis argues that we violated MS terms of use by not including it (please see the PDF link included in that mail): https://lists.debian.org/debian-gis/2014/10/msg00115.html [1] http://svn.openstreetmap.org/applications/viewer/jmapviewer/src/org/openstreetmap/gui/jmapviewer/images/bing_maps.png Thank you very much and Best Regards, -- Felix Natter -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-legal-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/87oatdw3sh@bitburger.home.felix
