Re: (forw) [Kurt@OpenLDAP.org: Re: GNUTLS support?]

2003-05-22 Thread Steve Langasek
On Thu, May 22, 2003 at 01:30:20PM -0400, Stephen Frost wrote:
> Comments?  I didn't think the OpenLDAP license had the same restrictions
> the OpenSSL one did...?

From http://www.gnu.org/licenses/license-list.html:

GPL-Compatible, Free Software Licenses

 [...]

 The OpenLDAP License, Version 2.7.

This is a permissive non-copyleft free software license that is
compatible with the GNU GPL.

[Upstream doesn't know this?  AIUI, Version 2.7 of the license was
written with GPL compatibility in mind, in response to input from the
FSF.]

[...]

GPL-Incompatible, Free Software Licenses

 [...]

 The original BSD license.
(Note: on the preceding link, the original BSD license is listed in 
the "UCB/LBL" section.) This is a simple, permissive non-copyleft 
free software license with a serious flaw: the ``obnoxious BSD 
advertising clause''. The flaw is not fatal; that is, it does not 
render the software non-free. But it does cause practical problems, 
including incompatibility with the GNU GPL.

We urge you not to use the original BSD license for software you 
write. If you want to use a simple, permissive non-copyleft free 
software license, it is much better to use the modified BSD license 
or the X11 license. However, there is no reason not to use programs 
that have been released under the original BSD license. 


The OpenSSL license is GPL-incompatible because it contains an
"obnoxious advertising clause" equivalent to that of the original BSD
license.

The Cyrus SASL license is also a permissive non-copyleft license; it
does not contain an advertising clause, but instead requires that

 * 4. Redistributions of any form whatsoever must retain the following
 *acknowledgment:
 *"This product includes software developed by Computing Services
 * at Carnegie Mellon University (http://www.cmu.edu/computing/)."
 *

which is equivalent to the GPL's requirement 

   "that you conspicuously and appropriately publish on each copy an
   appropriate copyright notice and disclaimer of warranty"

.

Not that I'm surprised they want us to provide the patch, in any case.

-- 
Steve Langasek
postmodern programmer

> - Forwarded message from "Kurt D. Zeilenga" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -
> 
> Date: Thu, 22 May 2003 10:15:03 -0700
> From: "Kurt D. Zeilenga" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: Stephen Frost <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: openldap-devel@OpenLDAP.org
> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.0.9
> Subject: Re: GNUTLS support?
> 
> At 09:31 AM 5/22/2003, Stephen Frost wrote:
> >  It has come to my attention that OpenSSL has some licensing issues and
> >  causes problems (at least for Debian) when being linked with programs
> >  like Samba.  Due to this,
> 
> This, by itself, is not a good reason once you come to the
> realization that the same issues which apply to OpenSSL
> software likely applies to OpenLDAP Software (and to Cyrus
> SASL and to ...).  I suggest you and your lawyer read the
> complete OpenLDAP Software copyright notice.
> 
> >and the fact that support for alternatives
> >  is good anyway,
> 
> Feel free to submit a patch with an original code implementing
> the feature.
> 
> Kurt 
> 
> - End forwarded message -
> 
>   Stephen


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(forw) [Kurt@OpenLDAP.org: Re: GNUTLS support?]

2003-05-22 Thread Stephen Frost
Comments?  I didn't think the OpenLDAP license had the same restrictions
the OpenSSL one did...?

- Forwarded message from "Kurt D. Zeilenga" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -

Date: Thu, 22 May 2003 10:15:03 -0700
From: "Kurt D. Zeilenga" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Stephen Frost <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: openldap-devel@OpenLDAP.org
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.0.9
Subject: Re: GNUTLS support?

At 09:31 AM 5/22/2003, Stephen Frost wrote:
>  It has come to my attention that OpenSSL has some licensing issues and
>  causes problems (at least for Debian) when being linked with programs
>  like Samba.  Due to this,

This, by itself, is not a good reason once you come to the
realization that the same issues which apply to OpenSSL
software likely applies to OpenLDAP Software (and to Cyrus
SASL and to ...).  I suggest you and your lawyer read the
complete OpenLDAP Software copyright notice.

>and the fact that support for alternatives
>  is good anyway,

Feel free to submit a patch with an original code implementing
the feature.

Kurt 

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Stephen


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