Another extended BSD licence :-/

2010-08-17 Thread Simon Richter
Hi,

I have been asked to provide packages for a small piece of software that
uses this licence:

This software is provided 'as-is', without any express or implied
warranty.  In no event will the authors be held liable for any damages
arising from the use of this software.

Permission is granted to anyone to use this software for any purpose,
including commercial applications, and to alter it and redistribute it
freely, subject to the following restrictions:

1. The origin of this software must not be misrepresented; you must not
   claim that you wrote the original software. If you use this software
   in a product or c64-release, an acknowledgment in the product 
   documentation or credits would be appreciated. Or beer!
2. Altered source versions must be plainly marked as such, and must not be
   misrepresented as being the original software.
3. This notice may not be removed or altered from any source distribution.
4. If you alter this software and release it, you must also provide the
   source. You may not turn this into yet-another-windows-only-c64-
   software. The software's platform independance and portability must
   be maintained, no x86-only assembly code (unless there's also a plain
   C version of it), no Windows-only API shit. If you violate this,
   pestilence shall come upon you, and DeeKay shall come to your house 
   and format your harddrive to install Linux. Your C64 will be
   confiscated and you will be forced to use a Sinclair Spectrum ZX81 
   to do all your coding - with its shitty membrane keyboard!

The first three paragraphs look like a BSD licence to me, paragraph four
is a personal rant from the authors. Apart from the obvious (remove
everything following "no x86-only assembly code..."), what else would be
needed to make this a valid licence suitable for inclusion into
non-free?

I can see:

 - it is not specified to whom you need to provide source
 - "You may not turn this..." would be implied in the next sentence
 - the bit about portability is pretty vague.

I'm going to try to convince the authors to use the GPL, but given their
aversion to OSS "politics" I'm not sure that will work. :/

   Simon


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Re: Another extended BSD licence :-/

2010-08-17 Thread Mike Hommey
On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 01:39:33PM +0200, Simon Richter wrote:
> The first three paragraphs look like a BSD licence to me, paragraph four
> is a personal rant from the authors. Apart from the obvious (remove
> everything following "no x86-only assembly code..."), what else would be
> needed to make this a valid licence suitable for inclusion into
> non-free?
> 
> I can see:
> 
>  - it is not specified to whom you need to provide source
>  - "You may not turn this..." would be implied in the next sentence
>  - the bit about portability is pretty vague.
> 
> I'm going to try to convince the authors to use the GPL, but given their
> aversion to OSS "politics" I'm not sure that will work. :/

Try to convince them to use BSD, which would only imply removing their
crappy addition to it. That rant has nothing to do in a license text.

Mike


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Re: Another extended BSD licence :-/

2010-08-17 Thread Giacomo A. Catenazzi

On 17.08.2010 13:39, Simon Richter wrote:

Hi,

I have been asked to provide packages for a small piece of software that
uses this licence:

 This software is provided 'as-is', without any express or implied
 warranty.  In no event will the authors be held liable for any damages
 arising from the use of this software.

 Permission is granted to anyone to use this software for any purpose,
 including commercial applications, and to alter it and redistribute it
 freely, subject to the following restrictions:

 1. The origin of this software must not be misrepresented; you must not
claim that you wrote the original software. If you use this software
in a product or c64-release, an acknowledgment in the product
documentation or credits would be appreciated. Or beer!
 2. Altered source versions must be plainly marked as such, and must not be
misrepresented as being the original software.
 3. This notice may not be removed or altered from any source distribution.
 4. If you alter this software and release it, you must also provide the
source. You may not turn this into yet-another-windows-only-c64-
software. The software's platform independance and portability must
be maintained, no x86-only assembly code (unless there's also a plain
C version of it), no Windows-only API shit. If you violate this,
pestilence shall come upon you, and DeeKay shall come to your house
and format your harddrive to install Linux. Your C64 will be
confiscated and you will be forced to use a Sinclair Spectrum ZX81
to do all your coding - with its shitty membrane keyboard!



It is not a BSD like license: "you must also provide the source.",
so nearly a copyleft with very few requirements.


Anyway it is "non-free", because:
"The software's platform independance and portability must
be maintained, no x86-only assembly code (unless there's also a plain
C version of it), no Windows-only API shit. "

This limits what/how you can modify it, which is again DFSG.
What does it mean in Debian? We should write patches so that
we must support Windows and MacOS X? (Or maybe on mainframe
and also strange systems with maybe strange libraries?)

PS: I have a C64. With this license the author reclaims the ownership
of my C64 if I do POSIX-only changes.

ciao
cate


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