Re: [OT] What does 'General Public License' mean?

2000-06-20 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon

 Henning Makholm [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

What does 'General Public License' mean?  Is it 'General' + 'Public
License' or is it 'General Public' + 'License'?
  
  Both are possible, and it is conceivable that RMS liked the ambiguity
  whan he picked the term.

Hmmm...

Does the phrase as a whole have a specific legal or commonly
accepted meaning?
  
  It is a commonly used name for the document whose full name is
  "GNU General Public License"

LOL!  I know what the GPL is.  I'm trying to explain some
misconceptions about it that have come over and over again on the
mailing list of my former LUG, namely, that everything on Linux has to
be GPLed, the KDE affair, what does "GPL compatible" mean, and in
general, why you can't change someone else's copyright at will (this
has came up on to ocassions, one, when Debian GNU/FreeBSD was
discussed, and a second one related to KDE), etc.  The problem is I
have to explain this in Spanish, and I have to start with the name
itself.  I've always thought it's funny to be able to read "GPL" in
two ways (with two, IMHO, rather different meanings), and I was
wondering if I was asleep on the particular day my English teacher
explained something that might be related to this.  I thought the
solution might lie on an "accepted (legal) interpretation" for the
whole phrase.  Is there such a thing?  I asked RMS once about this.
He had no comment.

  Using the phrase "general public license" when referring to
  anything else than that particular document would be silly, because
  many readers are going to assume you mean that one.

Ok...  let me put it in another way: are the any common phrases in
English that might be somehow related to this particular wording?  Or
yet in another way: is there a specific legal meaning for "public
license"?  If yes, how is this meaning changed by saying "General
(Public License)"?  Or yet antoher: what would "(General Public)
License" mean?  Who is /not/ part of the "general public"?

TIA,

Marcelo


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Re: [OT] What does 'General Public License' mean?

2000-06-20 Thread Raul Miller
On Tue, Jun 20, 2000 at 09:34:15AM +0200, Marcelo E. Magallon wrote:
 Ok... let me put it in another way: are the any common phrases in
 English that might be somehow related to this particular wording? Or
 yet in another way: is there a specific legal meaning for public
 license? If yes, how is this meaning changed by saying General
 (Public License)? Or yet antoher: what would (General Public)
 License mean? Who is /not/ part of the general public?

While it's true that a good command of the English language helps in
understanding the GPL, I don't think that there are very many english
classes which spend time on the GPL as a topic.  Actually, I'm not aware
of any english classes that spend time on the GPL.

Here's how I interpret the phrase:

Public License -- this license is intended to be reusable by anyone.

General Public License -- this license is intended to be useful for
most people.

A public license that isn't general would be intended to be reusable by
a number of people, but maybe in some more limited context.

For example, an Okeechobee Public License, if it existed, might be
intended for use only by the people of Okeechobee.

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Raul



Re: [OT] What does 'General Public License' mean?

2000-06-20 Thread Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho
On Sun, Jun 18, 2000 at 08:24:16PM +0200, Marcelo E. Magallon wrote:
  What does 'General Public License' mean?  Is it 'General' + 'Public
  License' or is it 'General Public' + 'License'?

I asked pecisely this question from RMS less than a week ago. His response
is that it was originally a license for the general public (thus, general
public + license) but now it is more a general license to the public.

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Re: [OT] What does 'General Public License' mean?

2000-06-19 Thread Henning Makholm
Scripsit Marcelo E. Magallon [EMAIL PROTECTED]

  What does 'General Public License' mean?  Is it 'General' + 'Public
  License' or is it 'General Public' + 'License'?

Both are possible, and it is conceivable that RMS liked the ambiguity
whan he picked the term.

  Does the phrase as a whole have a specific legal or commonly
  accepted meaning?

It is a commonly used name for the document whose full name is
GNU General Public License and which describes the licensing
terms that apply to most software copyrighted by the Free Software
Foundation (in addition to a lot of other software).

It is customary to drop the GNU when talking about it, or just
refer to the document as simply the GPL.

Using the phrase general public license when referring to anything
else than that particular document would be silly, because many
readers are going to assume you mean that one.

Other licenses which are in some senses similar to the GPL frequently
call themselves public license but not general.

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