Re: Jagged Alliance 2 Source Code
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Dennis Schridde <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes Trying again anyway, since when I don't get answers from anywhere, I can't work on it freely, so I won't work on it at all and it perhaps won't ever get packaged for Debian. Vicious circle... Is this thing (or any license in general, if that could be more easily answered) somehow mixable with the GPL? Eg. that I publish my derived work under the GPL and make an exception for Strategy First to grant them what they want? Dual-licence it ... Think TrollTech and Qt - which is freely available under the GPL, but you can also licence it direct from TT and then do "proprietary" things with it. I haven't bothered to read the licence, but you could say "my code is dual-licenced under the GPL, and under the Jagged Alliance licence". Then the Jagged Alliance people can do what they want to under the Jagged Alliance licence, and anybody who cares to can separate your code out (or download it from you if you keep it separate) and use it under the GPL. The only snag is, if the Jagged Alliance and GPL licences are incompatible, the package as a whole would only be distributable under the Jagged Alliance licence, and probably wouldn't qualify for distribution with Debian. Cheers, Wol -- Anthony W. Youngman - [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Jagged Alliance 2 Source Code
Am Mittwoch, 4. Juli 2007 schrieb Nic Suzor: > On 7/4/07, Dennis Schridde <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Is this thing (or any license in general, if that could be more easily > > answered) somehow mixable with the GPL? Eg. that I publish my derived > > work under the GPL and make an exception for Strategy First to grant them > > what they want? > > The licence says: > "3. That if you distribute the Software or any derivative works of the > Software, you will distribute them using a verbatim copy of this > License, and you will not grant any > rights to the Software or derivative works that are broader than those > provided by this Licensing Agreement. For example, you may not > distribute any modifications of the Software under terms that would > permit commercial use, or under terms that require the Software or > such derivative works to be sublicensed to others." > > You can't publish a modified version of the work with anything that is > mixable with the GPL. Unless you published your changes in the form of > patches only, and even then, only if those patches don't infrnige the > copyright in the game at all. > > hope this helps, Thanks. The license seems pretty crappy then... (compared to other games where the sourcecode became available) --Dennis signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: Jagged Alliance 2 Source Code
On 7/4/07, Dennis Schridde <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Is this thing (or any license in general, if that could be more easily answered) somehow mixable with the GPL? Eg. that I publish my derived work under the GPL and make an exception for Strategy First to grant them what they want? The licence says: "3. That if you distribute the Software or any derivative works of the Software, you will distribute them using a verbatim copy of this License, and you will not grant any rights to the Software or derivative works that are broader than those provided by this Licensing Agreement. For example, you may not distribute any modifications of the Software under terms that would permit commercial use, or under terms that require the Software or such derivative works to be sublicensed to others." You can't publish a modified version of the work with anything that is mixable with the GPL. Unless you published your changes in the form of patches only, and even then, only if those patches don't infrnige the copyright in the game at all. hope this helps, nic. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Jagged Alliance 2 Source Code
Dennis Schridde <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Trying again anyway, since when I don't get answers from anywhere You could try a lawyer. After all, as is pointed out frequently, this list is largely comprised of people unqualified to offer legal advice. -- \ "I know you believe you understood what you think I said, but I | `\ am not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I | _o__) meant." -- Robert J. McCloskey | Ben Finney -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Jagged Alliance 2 Source Code
Am Mittwoch, 4. Juli 2007 schrieb Joe Smith: > "Ben Finney" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Dennis Schridde <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> This is not Debian related, but I think you are the ones who know > >> best about licensing issues. > > > > This list, debian-legal, is a resource for Debian developers to > > determine whether a work is free software compliant with the DFSG. Its > > regular members contribute largely on the understanding that they're > > helping the Debian project. If you can't help, I guess there is no one else who can? (Implicit question: Whom else could I ask?) > Yes. > > For what its worth, The code looks non-free (by DFSG and FSF standards). It > is definately not GPL compatible. > The code does look distributable, but only in non-free, and I'm not certain > of that either (did not look closely enough). > > That is about all the anaysis he will be likely to get from this list, > unless and until the program is proposed for packaging, and/or a Debian > legal contributer feels bored. Trying again anyway, since when I don't get answers from anywhere, I can't work on it freely, so I won't work on it at all and it perhaps won't ever get packaged for Debian. Vicious circle... Is this thing (or any license in general, if that could be more easily answered) somehow mixable with the GPL? Eg. that I publish my derived work under the GPL and make an exception for Strategy First to grant them what they want? --Dennis signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: Jagged Alliance 2 Source Code
"Ben Finney" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Dennis Schridde <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: This is not Debian related, but I think you are the ones who know best about licensing issues. This list, debian-legal, is a resource for Debian developers to determine whether a work is free software compliant with the DFSG. Its regular members contribute largely on the understanding that they're helping the Debian project. Yes. For what its worth, The code looks non-free (by DFSG and FSF standards). It is definately not GPL compatible. The code does look distributable, but only in non-free, and I'm not certain of that either (did not look closely enough). That is about all the anaysis he will be likely to get from this list, unless and until the program is proposed for packaging, and/or a Debian legal contributer feels bored. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Jagged Alliance 2 Source Code
Dennis Schridde <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > This is not Debian related, but I think you are the ones who know > best about licensing issues. This list, debian-legal, is a resource for Debian developers to determine whether a work is free software compliant with the DFSG. Its regular members contribute largely on the understanding that they're helping the Debian project. -- \ "Conscience is a mother-in-law whose visit never ends." -- | `\ Henry L. Mencken | _o__) | Ben Finney -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
