Re: [tryton-debian] Any volunteer to update GNUHealth packages

2015-02-20 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi Mathias,

On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 01:25:38PM +0100, Mathias Behrle wrote:
 ...

(stripped since no need to add anything)
  
  In short: If you think you found a proper way to create GNUHealth
  packages on debian.tryton.org it would probably a nice comfort for some
  GNUHealth users who intend to run Debian (or one of its derivatives).
 
 I think, it will be a good concept to make the gnuhealth packages in the same
 way as the current Tryton packages, to provide them suitable and with
 bugfixes included for the relative Debian and Tryton release via
 debian.tryton.org. For a demo package, that could serve as a base also for
 production environments I am leaning to some dockerized environment. The first
 step has been done here[0], more to follow.
 
 
 [0] https://github.com/mbehrle/docker-tryton-server

Cool.  Any volunteer here on this list to test this work?

Kind regards

 Andreas.

PS: Emilien, thanks for your ACK-mail.  This kind of information is very
productive.

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Re: [tryton-debian] Any volunteer to update GNUHealth packages

2015-02-20 Thread Mathias Behrle
* Andreas Tille:  Re: [tryton-debian] Any volunteer to update GNUHealth
  packages (Thu, 12 Feb 2015 16:29:26 +0100):

Hi Andreas,

 sorry for not answering this issue earlier.

thanks for your answer anyway.
 
 On Mon, Feb 09, 2015 at 11:37:09AM +0100, Mathias Behrle wrote:
  * Andreas Tille:  Any volunteer to update GNUHealth packages (Mon, 9 Feb
  2015 08:40:47 +0100):
  
   GNUHealth 2.8.1 was released which is using tryton 3.4.0.  We lost the
   official GNUHealth package recently due to incompatibilities with
   tryton.  Any volunteer to prepare a package for exoerimental is more
   than welcome.
  
  Could you please point out, what's your motivation to call for this work
  again in this way
 
 Just for clarification:  I did not intended to specify any way how the
 GNUHealth packages are created.  My intention was that some work that
 was done previously should not be thrown away.  Any enhancement that
 might serve our users properly is welcome.
  
  - against the pronounced will of the gnuhealth maintainers (I talked once
again to the gnuhealth maintainers at this years Tryton Unconference in
Leipzig, which are not in favor of having Debian packages but prefer a
distribution agnostic way of installation)
 
 Generally speaking I'm careful about the pronounced will of a certain
 representative of a project that is given orally on a conference.  I
 personally met another member of the project at 2011 at Med@Tel who was
 very keen on packages.  It might depend from the time (my information is
 not as current as yours) and the representative (may be the person I
 have met is not a technican coming from the Tryton programmers).

Thanks for posting those interesting links from debian-med, I joined the list
later and didn't have any knowledge ot them.

Summarizing the aspects around the gnuhealth packaging it becomes evident to me,
that there were some lacks in communication(s), that added one to the other
resulting in a more or less unusable package (as is the current state in svn).
Just to be clear (I think to know you that you like clear words) and without
the intention to accuse anyone I would see the main lacks in
- gnuhealth people talking to different debian people without saying, that they
  are in contact with respectively the other
- debian-med people not getting in contact with debian tryton maintainers early
  to coordinate the packaging (perhaps not seeing at the time, that gnuhealth
  modules are just another set of Tryton modules)
- the packager not getting into contact with the framework upstream (i.e.
  Tryton) related to questions for the setup of the application in what
  concerns the framework.

Those facts added to the result of the communication being later much more
complicated, often frustrating and quite some work having been done to no avail
(the latter not about the whole gnuhealth package, because some aspects can
hopefully be reused in the new concept).

I will try to learn from those facts to be clairaudient and curious enough to
ask the participants about what contacts and which work were already done.

  - according to [0][1] the moderate interest in the subject
 
 I'm not sure that these links are telling something about the moderate
 interest but I agree that for specific software like software in
 medicine the interest measured in popcon users is low.  I personally
 do see some sense in delivering packages anyway and I have good reasons
 for this but I would like to discuss this in a more generic thread like
 this GNUHealth related one.
 
  - still with the problematic concept of doing *one* package
 
 As I said above:  I do not insist on this concept.  I strongly believe
 in the Do-O-cracy principle of Debian where the doer decides how things
 will be done.
 
  - still with the unsolved problem to have gnuhealth modules compatible with
the rest of the Tryton suite inside Debian with a justifiable amount of
effort to do for the maintainer as well as for the release and security
  team
  
  I am volunteering to do the gnuhealth packages under the following
  prerequistes:
  - you give me a number of people interested in Debian gnuhealth packages
  apart from you and Emilien ;) (please take this from the humorous side...)
 
 I would need to check whether the recipients of the mail to the Debian
 Med list back in 2011[3] remains and might qualify as number of people
 interested
 
  - gnuhealth packages made by me will be in the well-proven generic way of
  the current Tryton modules
 
 I have no technical background of Tryton and thus I will simply trust
 the people who are dealing with this.
 
  - gnuhealth packaging (VCS) will be like for all Tryton modules on alioth
 
 +1
 
  - gnuhealth packages will be made available outside of Debian on
debian.tryton.org (the only way to make them currently available in a
  clean and seasoned way to the users with having the relative gnuhealth
  suite always being dedicated to the correct Tryton series and thus 

Re: [tryton-debian] Any volunteer to update GNUHealth packages

2015-02-20 Thread Emilien Klein
2015-02-20 13:25 GMT+01:00 Mathias Behrle mathi...@m9s.biz:

 * Andreas Tille:  Re: [tryton-debian] Any volunteer to update GNUHealth
   packages (Thu, 12 Feb 2015 16:29:26 +0100):


[snip]

Just a quick ACK to indicate that I agree with the statements in this email
and Andreas' previous message.

Cheers,
Emilien


Re: Bug#778852: RFS: ismrmrd/1.2.1-1 [ITP #732360] -- ISMRM Raw Data Format.

2015-02-20 Thread Ghislain Vaillant
Thanks Andreas,

Can I ask you to re-upload ismrmrd please ? I forgot to change the
maintainer field to d-med, but more importantly, did not license the
debian/ folder under a license compatible with upstream, which could cause
problems with patches in the future. Thanks !

For the D-M application, I am seriously considering it.

Cheers,

2015-02-20 17:36 GMT+00:00 Andreas Tille andr...@an3as.eu:

 Hi Ghislain,

 On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 05:05:50PM +, Ghislain Vaillant wrote:
  I have added an entry to the SoB tasks [1].
 
  However, I cannot access the blends svn repository to update the imaging
  task file.
  Since I am a member of d-med on Alioth, I am supposed to have access,
 right
  ?

 The following user groups have commit permissions:

   1. Debian Developers
   2. Members of Blends team

 This has advantages and disadvantages - you have hit the latter. :-)
 If you want to have commit permissions you can join group 1. (we talked
 about this recently ;-)) or 2. (which is simple).  Or you simply ask me
 to commit something like this:

 $ svn diff
 Index: imaging
 ===
 --- imaging (Revision 4142)
 +++ imaging (Arbeitskopie)
 @@ -542,6 +542,8 @@

  Depends: mia-tools, mialmpick, mia-viewit

 +Depends: ismrmrd-tools
 +
   ; Added by blends-inject 0.0.7. [Please note here if modified manually]
  Suggests: connectomeviewer
  Published-Authors: Gerhard S, Daducci A, Lemkaddem A, Meuli R, Thiran J-P
 and Hagmann P
 Index: imaging-dev
 ===
 --- imaging-dev (Revision 4136)
 +++ imaging-dev (Arbeitskopie)
 @@ -169,3 +169,5 @@
  Depends: libedf-dev

  Depends: python-imageio
 +
 +Depends: libismrmrd-dev


 ... which I did right now.


 Thanks for your work on this

Andreas.

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Re: Bug#778852: RFS: ismrmrd/1.2.1-1 [ITP #732360] -- ISMRM Raw Data Format.

2015-02-20 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi Ghislain,

On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 05:05:50PM +, Ghislain Vaillant wrote:
 I have added an entry to the SoB tasks [1].
 
 However, I cannot access the blends svn repository to update the imaging
 task file.
 Since I am a member of d-med on Alioth, I am supposed to have access, right
 ?

The following user groups have commit permissions:

  1. Debian Developers
  2. Members of Blends team

This has advantages and disadvantages - you have hit the latter. :-)
If you want to have commit permissions you can join group 1. (we talked
about this recently ;-)) or 2. (which is simple).  Or you simply ask me
to commit something like this:

$ svn diff
Index: imaging
===
--- imaging (Revision 4142)
+++ imaging (Arbeitskopie)
@@ -542,6 +542,8 @@
 
 Depends: mia-tools, mialmpick, mia-viewit
 
+Depends: ismrmrd-tools
+
  ; Added by blends-inject 0.0.7. [Please note here if modified manually]
 Suggests: connectomeviewer
 Published-Authors: Gerhard S, Daducci A, Lemkaddem A, Meuli R, Thiran J-P and 
Hagmann P
Index: imaging-dev
===
--- imaging-dev (Revision 4136)
+++ imaging-dev (Arbeitskopie)
@@ -169,3 +169,5 @@
 Depends: libedf-dev
 
 Depends: python-imageio
+
+Depends: libismrmrd-dev


... which I did right now.


Thanks for your work on this

   Andreas.

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RFS: ismrmrd/1.2.1-1 [ITP #732360] -- ISMRM Raw Data Format.

2015-02-20 Thread Ghislain Vaillant

Package: sponsorship-requests
Severity: wishlist

Dear mentors,

I am looking for a sponsor for the following package:

* Package name: ismrmrd
  Version : 1.2.1-1
  Upstream Author : The ISMRMRD developers
* URL : http://ismrmrd.github.io/
* License : Expat
  Programming Lang: C++
  Description : ISMRM Raw Data Format

The ISMRM raw data format is a specification of a common format
to represent and share magnetic resonance imaging raw and image
data. The ISMRMRD library is a C++ implementation of such format,
plus a set of tools to generate and validate ISMRMRD datasets.

It builds the following binary packages:
 libismrmrd1.2  -- shared library
 libismrmrd-dev -- header and development files
 libismrmrd-doc -- html documentation
 ismrmrd-tools -- standalone executables
 ismrmrd-schema -- validation schema

These binary packages have been successfully tested over the past
few months using the following PPA:
 https://launchpad.net/~ghisvail/+archive/ubuntu/ismrmrd

The source package can be checked out at:
 http://anonscm.debian.org/gitweb/?p=debian-med/ismrmrd.git

This package will be maintained by the Debian-med Team and sponsored via
the Sponsorship of Blends.

Best regards,
Ghis


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Re: Bug#778852: RFS: ismrmrd/1.2.1-1 [ITP #732360] -- ISMRM Raw Data Format.

2015-02-20 Thread Andreas Tille
On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 08:34:06PM +, Ghislain Vaillant wrote:
 Thanks Andreas,
 
 Can I ask you to re-upload ismrmrd please ? I forgot to change the
 maintainer field to d-med, but more importantly, did not license the
 debian/ folder under a license compatible with upstream, which could cause
 problems with patches in the future. Thanks !

I can certainly do but I think it is better to answer the package in new
mail from ftpmaster with Please reject and wait until this has happened.
Otherwise there will be some conflict with equally named files ...

 For the D-M application, I am seriously considering it.

:-)

Kind regards

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