To early for keysigning (Delaware)?

2000-12-11 Thread Harry Henry Gebel

Yesterday I put my name on the applicant list for the New Maintainer
program, and I was wondering: Is it too early to put my name on the Debian
Key Signing Coordination Page to start looking for someone to sign my key
for the identification phase? And if it's not, and someone reading this is
located near Delaware, could you get in contact with me?

-- 
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West Dover Hundred, Delaware


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Re: unattandend maintainer(s) - what do I do?

2000-12-11 Thread Mark Brown
On Mon, Dec 11, 2000 at 01:59:31PM +0100, Michael Moerz wrote:

> Just in case that I have detected an unattandend maintainer
> who hasn't fixed bugs at least for half a year and never
> answeres to direct mails ( have been waiting for an answere
> now more than a month ), what should I do?

Speak to [EMAIL PROTECTED]  

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Re: NM help: toolchain

2000-12-11 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Mon, 11 Dec 2000, Toni Mueller wrote:

> Hello,

Hi Tony,

> I'm in the process of qualifying for a Debian Maintainer and need
> to deliver some working packages. I've done some, but have problems
> understanding how the toolchain works (so my Build-Depends and Depends
> are out of line). Where do these ${shlibs...} et al get set, and how?
> Is there a way to find out short of digging all dh_* scripts up?
> Eg. 'grep -i shlibs: dh_*' doesn't turn up anything, too.

I assume you have read the chapter about shlibs in the Debian Packaging
Manual. Which are the parts you don't understand?

If you want to understand what the debhelper commands do try a
  man debhelper
This gives you much information and references to the other debhelper
manual pages.


> Best Regards,
> --Toni++

cu,
Adrian

-- 
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"Yes" merely uttered to please, or what is worse, to avoid trouble.
-- Mahatma Ghandi



NM help: toolchain

2000-12-11 Thread Toni Mueller


Hello,


I'm in the process of qualifying for a Debian Maintainer and need
to deliver some working packages. I've done some, but have problems
understanding how the toolchain works (so my Build-Depends and Depends
are out of line). Where do these ${shlibs...} et al get set, and how?
Is there a way to find out short of digging all dh_* scripts up?
Eg. 'grep -i shlibs: dh_*' doesn't turn up anything, too.


Best Regards,
--Toni++



Re: MD5 Sums and tarballs

2000-12-11 Thread Toni Mueller


Hello,

On Mon, Dec 11, 2000 at 01:53:35PM +0100, Bas Zoetekouw wrote:
> > Does the md5 sum of the .orig.tar.gz have to be the same as the one of
> > the upstream tarball ?
> Aren't the orig.tar.gz's packed with gzip -9? If that is the case, the
> md5sum would almost always change, since most upstream developers just
> use the default compression.

someone gave me a hint that there is varying data in an archive, being a
time stamp. A bit of experimenting with gzip, od and sc yields the strong
suspicion that the bytes 4-7 (ie, the second long) is the mtime of the
original file (ok, this should be restoreable somehow on decompression,
so it must be included in the file, no?).

Therefore I normally choose to manually apply the patch and then proceed
to build the package.


Best Regards,
--Toni++



Re: MD5 Sums and tarballs

2000-12-11 Thread Bas Zoetekouw
Hi Jérôme!

You wrote:

> Does the md5 sum of the .orig.tar.gz have to be the same as the one of
> the upstream tarball ?

Aren't the orig.tar.gz's packed with gzip -9? If that is the case, the
md5sum would almost always change, since most upstream developers just
use the default compression.

-- 
Kind regards,
+---+
| Bas Zoetekouw  | Si l'on sait exactement ce   |
|| que l'on va faire, a quoi|
| [EMAIL PROTECTED] | bon le faire?|
|[EMAIL PROTECTED] |   Pablo Picasso  |
+---+ 



unattandend maintainer(s) - what do I do?

2000-12-11 Thread Michael Moerz
Hi!

Just in case that I have detected an unattandend maintainer
who hasn't fixed bugs at least for half a year and never
answeres to direct mails ( have been waiting for an answere
now more than a month ), what should I do?

I am really interested in fixing that outstanding bugs and
I would like to continue that package, but I don't want to
steal the package. (I am in the NM queue awaiting DAM approval
and account creation)

-- 
kind regards,
Michael Moerz



Re: unattandend maintainer(s) - what do I do?

2000-12-11 Thread Mark Brown

On Mon, Dec 11, 2000 at 01:59:31PM +0100, Michael Moerz wrote:

> Just in case that I have detected an unattandend maintainer
> who hasn't fixed bugs at least for half a year and never
> answeres to direct mails ( have been waiting for an answere
> now more than a month ), what should I do?

Speak to [EMAIL PROTECTED]  

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Re: NM help: toolchain

2000-12-11 Thread Adrian Bunk

On Mon, 11 Dec 2000, Toni Mueller wrote:

> Hello,

Hi Tony,

> I'm in the process of qualifying for a Debian Maintainer and need
> to deliver some working packages. I've done some, but have problems
> understanding how the toolchain works (so my Build-Depends and Depends
> are out of line). Where do these ${shlibs...} et al get set, and how?
> Is there a way to find out short of digging all dh_* scripts up?
> Eg. 'grep -i shlibs: dh_*' doesn't turn up anything, too.

I assume you have read the chapter about shlibs in the Debian Packaging
Manual. Which are the parts you don't understand?

If you want to understand what the debhelper commands do try a
  man debhelper
This gives you much information and references to the other debhelper
manual pages.


> Best Regards,
> --Toni++

cu,
Adrian

-- 
A "No" uttered from deepest conviction is better and greater than a
"Yes" merely uttered to please, or what is worse, to avoid trouble.
-- Mahatma Ghandi


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NM help: toolchain

2000-12-11 Thread Toni Mueller



Hello,


I'm in the process of qualifying for a Debian Maintainer and need
to deliver some working packages. I've done some, but have problems
understanding how the toolchain works (so my Build-Depends and Depends
are out of line). Where do these ${shlibs...} et al get set, and how?
Is there a way to find out short of digging all dh_* scripts up?
Eg. 'grep -i shlibs: dh_*' doesn't turn up anything, too.


Best Regards,
--Toni++


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Re: MD5 Sums and tarballs

2000-12-11 Thread Bas Zoetekouw

Hi Jérôme!

You wrote:

> Does the md5 sum of the .orig.tar.gz have to be the same as the one of
> the upstream tarball ?

Aren't the orig.tar.gz's packed with gzip -9? If that is the case, the
md5sum would almost always change, since most upstream developers just
use the default compression.

-- 
Kind regards,
+---+
| Bas Zoetekouw  | Si l'on sait exactement ce   |
|| que l'on va faire, a quoi|
| [EMAIL PROTECTED] | bon le faire?|
|[EMAIL PROTECTED] |   Pablo Picasso  |
+---+ 


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Re: MD5 Sums and tarballs

2000-12-11 Thread Toni Mueller



Hello,

On Mon, Dec 11, 2000 at 01:53:35PM +0100, Bas Zoetekouw wrote:
> > Does the md5 sum of the .orig.tar.gz have to be the same as the one of
> > the upstream tarball ?
> Aren't the orig.tar.gz's packed with gzip -9? If that is the case, the
> md5sum would almost always change, since most upstream developers just
> use the default compression.

someone gave me a hint that there is varying data in an archive, being a
time stamp. A bit of experimenting with gzip, od and sc yields the strong
suspicion that the bytes 4-7 (ie, the second long) is the mtime of the
original file (ok, this should be restoreable somehow on decompression,
so it must be included in the file, no?).

Therefore I normally choose to manually apply the patch and then proceed
to build the package.


Best Regards,
--Toni++


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unattandend maintainer(s) - what do I do?

2000-12-11 Thread Michael Moerz

Hi!

Just in case that I have detected an unattandend maintainer
who hasn't fixed bugs at least for half a year and never
answeres to direct mails ( have been waiting for an answere
now more than a month ), what should I do?

I am really interested in fixing that outstanding bugs and
I would like to continue that package, but I don't want to
steal the package. (I am in the NM queue awaiting DAM approval
and account creation)

-- 
kind regards,
Michael Moerz


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MD5 Sums and tarballs

2000-12-11 Thread Jérôme Marant

Hi,

I had many discussions with developers and I still cannot state about
the following question:

Does the md5 sum of the .orig.tar.gz have to be the same as the one of
the upstream tarball ?

Some people ofter unpack the upstream tarball and rename the directory
so that the latter comply with the Debian Policy. However, this makes
the md5sum change. But, in a lot of cases, there are no need for changing
the internals of the upstream source.

One solution that some gave me is to copy the upstream tarball to
the orig.tar.gz and the building process does all the renaming itself.

Could some of you give their point of view ?

Thanks.

-- 
Jérôme Marant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

http://jerome.marant.free.fr



Mailing list manager packaging issues

2000-12-11 Thread Jérôme Marant

Hi,

I'm taking over the Sympa mailing list manager with the agreement of its
previous maintainer.
This mailing list manager comes with a web software that stores archives
in the HTML form.

My main problem is storing html archives and bounces: I had a deep look
into the Debian Policy and the FHS but I didn't find a precise directory
where I could store these data.

The mailing list manager is storing its data in /var/spool/sympa.

Is /var/spool a good place for these ? Do you have any other idea ?

Thanks.

-- 
Jérôme Marant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

http://jerome.marant.free.fr



MD5 Sums and tarballs

2000-12-11 Thread Jérôme Marant


Hi,

I had many discussions with developers and I still cannot state about
the following question:

Does the md5 sum of the .orig.tar.gz have to be the same as the one of
the upstream tarball ?

Some people ofter unpack the upstream tarball and rename the directory
so that the latter comply with the Debian Policy. However, this makes
the md5sum change. But, in a lot of cases, there are no need for changing
the internals of the upstream source.

One solution that some gave me is to copy the upstream tarball to
the orig.tar.gz and the building process does all the renaming itself.

Could some of you give their point of view ?

Thanks.

-- 
Jérôme Marant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

http://jerome.marant.free.fr


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Mailing list manager packaging issues

2000-12-11 Thread Jérôme Marant


Hi,

I'm taking over the Sympa mailing list manager with the agreement of its
previous maintainer.
This mailing list manager comes with a web software that stores archives
in the HTML form.

My main problem is storing html archives and bounces: I had a deep look
into the Debian Policy and the FHS but I didn't find a precise directory
where I could store these data.

The mailing list manager is storing its data in /var/spool/sympa.

Is /var/spool a good place for these ? Do you have any other idea ?

Thanks.

-- 
Jérôme Marant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

http://jerome.marant.free.fr


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