Re: [BTS] Bug number $bug not found.

2001-10-28 Thread Josip Rodin

On Sun, Oct 28, 2001 at 01:26:37AM -0200, Carlos Laviola wrote:
 On Fri, Oct 26, 2001 at 06:23:53PM +0200, Amaya wrote:
  I am trying to reopen a bug, tag it and merge it with a more recent one.
  This is the answer I get from the BTS:
  
  Debian Bug Tracking System said:
   Processing commands for [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
   reopen 109629
   Bug number 109629 not found.
   
   tags 109629 upstream
   Bug number 109629 not found.
   
   merge 117116 109629
   Bug number 109629 not found.
  
  I guess it's older than 28 days, but... can't I access it anymore?
 
 You can. At least I can: http://bugs.debian.org/109629 is reachable.
 Maybe you've hit a bug somewhere.

No. http://bugs.debian.org/* displays archived bugs, too.

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Re: [BTS] Bug number $bug not found.

2001-10-28 Thread Josip Rodin

On Fri, Oct 26, 2001 at 05:27:25PM -0500, Colin Watson wrote:
  I am trying to reopen a bug, tag it and merge it with a more recent one.
  This is the answer I get from the BTS:
 [...]
  I guess it's older than 28 days, but... can't I access it anymore?
 
 Unfortunately not, although the BTS administrators seem to consider this
 a feature request rather than a bug report. See #103803.

That's primarily because it's worked like this for years, and because people
shouldn't ever need this as the bugs shouldn't get wrongly closed and then
neglected for a month. Theoretically, bugs shouldn't reappear in newer
releases of software, too :)

Besides, then we'd have to adjust the age of the bug, and then we'd have a
discrepancy between the dates on the logged e-mails and that time counter.

Not to mention the mess this would cause with merged bugs, which are already
badly handled in some cases (reopening causes all submitters to merge, or
something like that; it's been filed).

And because it requires work to implement it, of course ;)

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Re: Python scripts

2001-10-28 Thread peter karlsson

Sean 'Shaleh' Perry:

 Gregor just posted his draft of the python packaging policy.  Give it a peak.

And... where do I find that?

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dpkg-gencontrol: warning: unknown substitution variable ${shlibs:Depends}

2001-10-28 Thread Jan-Hendrik Palic

Hi ...

I try to pack glibwww, the name of the packages are glibwww1 and
glibwww-dev. The shared lib is known as libglibwww.so.1.0.0.

But I have problems with understandment the shlibs-system. I have under
debian the shlibs files with the contents.

shlibs:
libglibwww 0.2 libglibwww1 ( 0.2-0)


shlibs.local:
libglibwww 0.2 libglibwww1 ( 0.2-0), libglibwww1 ( 0.2-99)


subvars:
shlibs:Depends=libc6 (= 2.2.4-2), libwww0 (= 5.3.2-2) | libwww-ssl0
(= 5.3.2-2), zlib1g (= 1:1.1.3)

But at dpkg-buildpackage I got:

dh_shlibdeps
dpkg-shlibdeps debian/tmp/usr/lib/lib*so*
dh_gencontrol
dpkg-gencontrol: warning: unknown substitution variable ${shlibs:Depends}

What is going wrong?

I want to pack gnome-common, several skripts to create gnome2 source- trees. 
There are no binaries and no libs in this package and I this error
message, too 

dpkg-gencontrol: warning: unknown substitution variable ${shlibs:Depends}

What do I have to do here?


Thanx and regards!

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Re: Python scripts

2001-10-28 Thread Michael Beattie

On Sun, Oct 28, 2001 at 11:42:32AM +0100, peter karlsson wrote:
  Gregor just posted his draft of the python packaging policy.  Give it a peak.
 
 And... where do I find that?

I'd take a wild stab, and guess at the debian-policy archives.

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Re: [BTS] Bug number $bug not found.

2001-10-28 Thread Amaya

Josip Rodin dijo:
 That's primarily because it's worked like this for years, and because people
 shouldn't ever need this as the bugs shouldn't get wrongly closed and then
 neglected for a month. Theoretically, bugs shouldn't reappear in newer
 releases of software, too :)

IMNSHO, the bug is fixed and dealt with. :-)
It just happened again in another arch. Wich is driving me nuts.

 Besides, then we'd have to adjust the age of the bug, and then we'd have a
 discrepancy between the dates on the logged e-mails and that time counter.
 
 Not to mention the mess this would cause with merged bugs, which are already
 badly handled in some cases (reopening causes all submitters to merge, or
 something like that; it's been filed).

Ok, now I see the reason for it and I see it's a reasonable implementation.
(Now I am overwhelmed by the use of reason twice in the same sentence) :-)
Thank you.

 And because it requires work to implement it, of course ;)

And probably not worth it. I can always file it again as other people have
suggested. If upstream manages to find a long term solution I will not file it
again.

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Re: Python scripts

2001-10-28 Thread Fredrik Steen


On Mon, Oct 29, 2001 at 12:39:05AM +1300, Michael Beattie wrote:
| On Sun, Oct 28, 2001 at 11:42:32AM +0100, peter karlsson wrote:
|   Gregor just posted his draft of the python packaging policy.  Give it a peak.
|  
|  And... where do I find that?
| 
| I'd take a wild stab, and guess at the debian-policy archives.

[...]

Debian Python Policy
http://ftp-master.debian.org/~doko/python/python-policy.txt

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Re: New key procedure

2001-10-28 Thread David Caldwell
On Friday, October 26, 2001 05:04:36 +0200 Alexander List 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



On 25 Oct 2001, James Troup wrote:


Anybody can update existing keys but new keys will be ignored.
Alexander's key is new.


OK, as I want to switch from PGP to GPG, I did as told (and mentioned in
the Developers's reference) and read



[snip]


Tried that, but gpg doesn't accept the passphrase of my old PGP secret
key :-(.

I'd be happy about new proposals to fix this, as I want to avoid using the
(non-free) PGP5 to solve the problem ;-)


How about if you use PGP5 just for a second... I recently did this. Using 
PGP, change the passphrase on the private key to nothing, so it's 
unencrypted. Then, also using PGP, export the key (I used the ascii armor 
format). Then use gpg to import it and give it a passphrase again. Then (of 
course) delete the exported, non-passphrase protected key. Then you can 
delete pgp forever.


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pgpPMZgrvU3bp.pgp
Description: PGP signature


Re: [BTS] Bug number $bug not found.

2001-10-28 Thread Josip Rodin
On Fri, Oct 26, 2001 at 06:23:53PM +0200, Amaya wrote:
 I am trying to reopen a bug, tag it and merge it with a more recent one.
 This is the answer I get from the BTS:
 
 Debian Bug Tracking System said:
  Processing commands for [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  reopen 109629
  Bug number 109629 not found.
  
  tags 109629 upstream
  Bug number 109629 not found.
  
  merge 117116 109629
  Bug number 109629 not found.
 
 I guess it's older than 28 days, but... can't I access it anymore?

Not through the bot, not anymore. You can just file it again...

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Python scripts

2001-10-28 Thread peter karlsson
Hi!

I am planning to package a Python script that will aid another package
I already have in Debian. Since I don't really know much about Python I
wonder what packages I need to depend on. Is it enough to depend on
python-base?

The script starts with these lines:

import sys
import nntplib
import getopt

are those libraries part of python-base, or do I need to get them
elsewhere?

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Re: [BTS] Bug number $bug not found.

2001-10-28 Thread Colin Watson
On Fri, Oct 26, 2001 at 06:23:53PM +0200, Amaya wrote:
 I am trying to reopen a bug, tag it and merge it with a more recent one.
 This is the answer I get from the BTS:
[...]
 I guess it's older than 28 days, but... can't I access it anymore?

Unfortunately not, although the BTS administrators seem to consider this
a feature request rather than a bug report. See #103803.

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Re: Yet another person looking for advocate

2001-10-28 Thread Colin Watson
On Fri, Oct 26, 2001 at 10:28:45AM +0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I've got a package of the Xfm filemanager.  

Is this the same as the one already in unstable?

Package: xfm
Priority: optional
Section: utils
Installed-Size: 2160
Maintainer: Branden Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Architecture: i386
Version: 1.4.3-2
Depends: libc6 (= 2.2.3-7), xaw3dg (= 1.5-6), xlibs ( 4.1.0)
Filename: pool/main/x/xfm/xfm_1.4.3-2_i386.deb
Size: 232404
MD5sum: 1dcd9a551f41930aed5e742eae988290
Description: X file and application manager
 Xfm is an file and application manager program for the X Window System, based
 on the Xaw3d widget set.  It provides virtually all of the features that you
 would expect in a file manager; move around your directory tree in multiple
 windows, move, copy or delete files, and launch programs with simple mouse
 operations.  Directory displays are updated automatically in regular
 intervals when the contents of the directory change.  The integrated
 application manager provides a kind of shelf onto which you can place your
 favorite applications, as well as the files and directories you are currently
 working with.  It also allows you to access different groups of applications
 and files.  User-definable file types let you specify a command to be
 executed when double-clicking on a file or dropping other files onto it.
 Last not least, xfm can automatically mount and unmount special devices like
 floppies as you open and close the corresponding directories (mount points).

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Re: [BTS] Bug number $bug not found.

2001-10-28 Thread Amaya
First, thanks for your quick reply :-)

Santiago Vila dijo:
 After a bug is archived, it is available for search, but its history
 is frozen, so no commands to change its status are accepted.

Ack.
 
 Somebody suggested once a resurrect command for this, but not everybody
 likes the idea of being able to resurrect a bug when it's already dead.

I wouldn't understand why. Bugs mean nothing (as to how good or bad person you
are, I mean), bugs are bugs and the BTS is there to work with them. If an old
bug keeps coming back it means that I didn't fix it right the first time.
Just that. :-) 

 If bug #109629 (archived) is the same as bug #117116 (alive) just tell the
 submitter of #109629 that you are working on it, if you like.

Already fixed it, but I don't like the hack. 
It is a problem I have with gettext, BTW ;-) 
Upstream is trying to be helpful, but access to machines other than i386 is
sadly very limited to both of us. Google won't help either. I'm stuck.
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Re: [BTS] Bug number $bug not found.

2001-10-28 Thread Julian Gilbey
On Fri, Oct 26, 2001 at 06:23:53PM +0200, Amaya wrote:
 I am trying to reopen a bug, tag it and merge it with a more recent one.
 This is the answer I get from the BTS:
 
 Debian Bug Tracking System said:
  Processing commands for [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  reopen 109629
  Bug number 109629 not found.
  
  tags 109629 upstream
  Bug number 109629 not found.
  
  merge 117116 109629
  Bug number 109629 not found.
 
 I guess it's older than 28 days, but... can't I access it anymore?
 
 Thank you for any ideas.

Send a note to 117116 referring to the old bug page if it's the same
bug.  If it's different and not yet fixed, then resubmit it.

   Julian

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Re: [BTS] Bug number $bug not found.

2001-10-28 Thread Carlos Laviola
On Fri, Oct 26, 2001 at 06:23:53PM +0200, Amaya wrote:
 I am trying to reopen a bug, tag it and merge it with a more recent one.
 This is the answer I get from the BTS:
 
 Debian Bug Tracking System said:
  Processing commands for [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  reopen 109629
  Bug number 109629 not found.
  
  tags 109629 upstream
  Bug number 109629 not found.
  
  merge 117116 109629
  Bug number 109629 not found.
 
 I guess it's older than 28 days, but... can't I access it anymore?

You can. At least I can: http://bugs.debian.org/109629 is reachable.
Maybe you've hit a bug somewhere.

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Re: Python scripts

2001-10-28 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry

On 27-Oct-2001 peter karlsson wrote:
 Hi!
 
 I am planning to package a Python script that will aid another package
 I already have in Debian. Since I don't really know much about Python I
 wonder what packages I need to depend on. Is it enough to depend on
 python-base?
 
 The script starts with these lines:
 
 import sys
 import nntplib
 import getopt
 
 are those libraries part of python-base, or do I need to get them
 elsewhere?
 

Gregor just posted his draft of the python packaging policy.  Give it a peak. 
Those look standard to me though.



Re: [BTS] Bug number $bug not found.

2001-10-28 Thread Josip Rodin
On Sun, Oct 28, 2001 at 01:26:37AM -0200, Carlos Laviola wrote:
 On Fri, Oct 26, 2001 at 06:23:53PM +0200, Amaya wrote:
  I am trying to reopen a bug, tag it and merge it with a more recent one.
  This is the answer I get from the BTS:
  
  Debian Bug Tracking System said:
   Processing commands for [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
   reopen 109629
   Bug number 109629 not found.
   
   tags 109629 upstream
   Bug number 109629 not found.
   
   merge 117116 109629
   Bug number 109629 not found.
  
  I guess it's older than 28 days, but... can't I access it anymore?
 
 You can. At least I can: http://bugs.debian.org/109629 is reachable.
 Maybe you've hit a bug somewhere.

No. http://bugs.debian.org/* displays archived bugs, too.

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Re: [BTS] Bug number $bug not found.

2001-10-28 Thread Josip Rodin
On Fri, Oct 26, 2001 at 05:27:25PM -0500, Colin Watson wrote:
  I am trying to reopen a bug, tag it and merge it with a more recent one.
  This is the answer I get from the BTS:
 [...]
  I guess it's older than 28 days, but... can't I access it anymore?
 
 Unfortunately not, although the BTS administrators seem to consider this
 a feature request rather than a bug report. See #103803.

That's primarily because it's worked like this for years, and because people
shouldn't ever need this as the bugs shouldn't get wrongly closed and then
neglected for a month. Theoretically, bugs shouldn't reappear in newer
releases of software, too :)

Besides, then we'd have to adjust the age of the bug, and then we'd have a
discrepancy between the dates on the logged e-mails and that time counter.

Not to mention the mess this would cause with merged bugs, which are already
badly handled in some cases (reopening causes all submitters to merge, or
something like that; it's been filed).

And because it requires work to implement it, of course ;)

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Re: Python scripts

2001-10-28 Thread peter karlsson
Sean 'Shaleh' Perry:

 Gregor just posted his draft of the python packaging policy.  Give it a peak.

And... where do I find that?

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dpkg-gencontrol: warning: unknown substitution variable ${shlibs:Depends}

2001-10-28 Thread Jan-Hendrik Palic
Hi ...

I try to pack glibwww, the name of the packages are glibwww1 and
glibwww-dev. The shared lib is known as libglibwww.so.1.0.0.

But I have problems with understandment the shlibs-system. I have under
debian the shlibs files with the contents.

shlibs:
libglibwww 0.2 libglibwww1 ( 0.2-0)


shlibs.local:
libglibwww 0.2 libglibwww1 ( 0.2-0), libglibwww1 ( 0.2-99)


subvars:
shlibs:Depends=libc6 (= 2.2.4-2), libwww0 (= 5.3.2-2) | libwww-ssl0
(= 5.3.2-2), zlib1g (= 1:1.1.3)

But at dpkg-buildpackage I got:

dh_shlibdeps
dpkg-shlibdeps debian/tmp/usr/lib/lib*so*
dh_gencontrol
dpkg-gencontrol: warning: unknown substitution variable ${shlibs:Depends}

What is going wrong?

I want to pack gnome-common, several skripts to create gnome2 source- trees. 
There are no binaries and no libs in this package and I this error
message, too 

dpkg-gencontrol: warning: unknown substitution variable ${shlibs:Depends}

What do I have to do here?


Thanx and regards!

Jan


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Re: Python scripts

2001-10-28 Thread Michael Beattie
On Sun, Oct 28, 2001 at 11:42:32AM +0100, peter karlsson wrote:
  Gregor just posted his draft of the python packaging policy.  Give it a 
  peak.
 
 And... where do I find that?

I'd take a wild stab, and guess at the debian-policy archives.

Mike.
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Re: [BTS] Bug number $bug not found.

2001-10-28 Thread Amaya
Josip Rodin dijo:
 That's primarily because it's worked like this for years, and because people
 shouldn't ever need this as the bugs shouldn't get wrongly closed and then
 neglected for a month. Theoretically, bugs shouldn't reappear in newer
 releases of software, too :)

IMNSHO, the bug is fixed and dealt with. :-)
It just happened again in another arch. Wich is driving me nuts.

 Besides, then we'd have to adjust the age of the bug, and then we'd have a
 discrepancy between the dates on the logged e-mails and that time counter.
 
 Not to mention the mess this would cause with merged bugs, which are already
 badly handled in some cases (reopening causes all submitters to merge, or
 something like that; it's been filed).

Ok, now I see the reason for it and I see it's a reasonable implementation.
(Now I am overwhelmed by the use of reason twice in the same sentence) :-)
Thank you.

 And because it requires work to implement it, of course ;)

And probably not worth it. I can always file it again as other people have
suggested. If upstream manages to find a long term solution I will not file it
again.

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Re: Python scripts

2001-10-28 Thread Fredrik Steen

On Mon, Oct 29, 2001 at 12:39:05AM +1300, Michael Beattie wrote:
| On Sun, Oct 28, 2001 at 11:42:32AM +0100, peter karlsson wrote:
|   Gregor just posted his draft of the python packaging policy.  Give it a 
peak.
|  
|  And... where do I find that?
| 
| I'd take a wild stab, and guess at the debian-policy archives.

[...]

Debian Python Policy
http://ftp-master.debian.org/~doko/python/python-policy.txt

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modules package

2001-10-28 Thread Duncan Findlay
Are there any resources anywhere to help me create a package for kernel
modules that will work with make-kpkg?

Or is it best just to look at other modules packages and borrow?

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