Adding a specific unrecognized lib to shlibs using debhelper?

2001-11-12 Thread Yves Arrouye
Sorry if that's an FAQ. I searched some on archives and didn't find what I
wanted. The next release of ICU may have a library

 /usr/lib/libicudt20l.so

which is not recognized by dh_makeshlibs because it has the wrong naming
convention. As a result lintian complains my package contains a lib that is
not I shlibs (nor md5sums). How can I add it? I tried having an shlibs.local
but this describes properly named libraries, so... 

I am working upstream (I am one of the developers, but we need consensus for
such changes) to fix that but if I can't, what can I do besides always
carrying a diff to rename this library in the build? How can I make the
package list it?

Thanks,
YA
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Re: sourceforge sucks

2001-11-12 Thread Roland Mas
Yven Johannes Leist (2001-11-10 18:22:26 +0100) :

> On Saturday 10 November 2001 18:13, Yven Johannes Leist wrote:
>> das mit dem release könnte noch dauern, suckforge ist gerade grauenhaft
>> langsam bis überhaupt nicht mehr responding :-((

> sorry for the inconvenience, this message was not supposed to go
> here, I must have hit the wrong button.

I don't understand much German, but it sounded like you're not very
happy with Sourceforge.net.  I can therefore only suggest you install
your own Sourceforge, for which there is a package (maintained by
yours truly).  It's not as current as sf.net, obviously, since the
upstream code hasn't been released for a while, but it works rather
fine.  Of course, if it doesn't, bug reports are welcome :-)

Roland.
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[no subject]

2001-11-12 Thread Gundolf Kiefer
Dear friends,

I have written a piece of software that I would like to offer for inclusion
into a future release of Debian (it is a lightweight, non-intrusive backup
tool targeting standalone/home computers that combines some properties I could
not find in previously existing tools that way).

I am not a Debian developer, however, I have created the necessary packaging
metadata according to the Debian Packaging Manual and the Policy Manual.
Lintian v1.10 does not report any problems.

How can I proceed further?

All information about the tool can be found at http://backup2l.sourceforge.net

Gundolf



Re: sourceforge sucks

2001-11-12 Thread Yven Johannes Leist
On Monday 12 November 2001 09:59, Roland Mas wrote:
> Yven Johannes Leist (2001-11-10 18:22:26 +0100) :
> > On Saturday 10 November 2001 18:13, Yven Johannes Leist wrote:
> >> das mit dem release könnte noch dauern, suckforge ist gerade grauenhaft
> >> langsam bis überhaupt nicht mehr responding :-((
> >
> > sorry for the inconvenience, this message was not supposed to go
> > here, I must have hit the wrong button.
>
> I don't understand much German, but it sounded like you're not very
> happy with Sourceforge.net.  I can therefore only suggest you install
> your own Sourceforge, for which there is a package (maintained by
> yours truly).  It's not as current as sf.net, obviously, since the
> upstream code hasn't been released for a while, but it works rather
> fine.  Of course, if it doesn't, bug reports are welcome :-)

Thanks for the hint, I did so already, (and I think you've done a great job 
with this package), 
but my problem with sourceforge.net was simply that I could not upload a new 
release for our project xnap (for which there is a debian package by the way) 
for quite a long time due to their servers being totally unresponding; 

By the way I'm of course not really of the opinion that sourceforge "sucks"; 
one really has to admit that valinux does an incredible job for the open 
source commity, hosting I think more than 16000 projects on their servers, 
which sort of explains why they are a bit slow sometimes.

Cheers,
Yven

P.S. It would be fantastic if anyone on this list had a look at the debian 
package of xnap, to be found here: 
http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=9285
Warning:  you need java 1.3 so that probably severely limits the number of 
people willing to try it :-(
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Re: dpkg-source: unrepresentable changes to source

2001-11-12 Thread Florian Hinzmann
Hello!


On 04-Nov-2001 Steve M. Robbins wrote:

> In your original mail, the question was what to do about symbolic
> links like "missing --> /usr/share/automake/missing".  The answer is:
> replace them by the file to which they are linked.

Yes, thanks. I do understand another part of this autoconf
mess now.  
I thought the autotools might be able to copy files instead of 
making symlinks. But it looks like I have to replace the symlinks
with files by myself. Do you or does anyone here have a Makefile/sh 
snippet which I might use for this task?


> the old version is "nonexistent".  Normally one would expect the
> source distribution to include these files (INSTALL, install-sh, etc).

No, I am packaging from the official release tar file. These needed
files are not included in upstream source. 
Upstream provides an autogen.sh script. The user is supposed
to run that script and a normal "make;make install" works
after that.


> If you are deleting the files yourself, then the fix is simple: don't
> do that.  Notwithstanding autotools-dev README, I find the best policy
> for dealing with auto-based packages is to simply drop in the latest
> /usr/share/misc/config.{guess,sub}, if required, and build.

See above, this is not true in my case.


> However, after a number of bug reports, I have changed my mind.  It
> doesn't pay to mess around with automake/autoconf/libtool and stuff
> inside debian/rules.  All I do now is: make any tweaks to Makefile.am
> or configure.in, re-run the auto-stuff on my local copy, and live with
> the enlarged diff that results.  

I do not need to change anything until now. But I need to run these
tools. You say you "re-run the auto-stuff on your local copy". As I understand
you here you run it manually and then you build the diff after that. 
I want to reach the same goal, but don't want to do it manually.
Therefore I do "mess around with automake/.. inside debian/rules" and call the
apropriate scripts there. This should lead to the same results, right?


>  If you need to run-something like
> autogen.sh that has "automake --add-missing --force", just replace the
> resulting symlinks by the corresponding file.  Again, you need only do
> this once.

What do you mean by saying I only need to do this once? I do 
replace this files everytime the symlinks get created. That is,
everytime I build a new Debian package including the diff. 
I feel I am missing your point here absolutely.  ;)


Thanks for your input!

   Florian


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Re: dpkg-source: unrepresentable changes to source

2001-11-12 Thread Florian Hinzmann
Hi Eduard!


On 04-Nov-2001 Eduard Bloch wrote:
>#include 
> Florian Hinzmann wrote on Sun Nov 04, 2001 um 08:18:47PM:
> 
>> I can't do a configure run as there is no configure script!
>> I do have to run the autotools scripts.
>> 
>> The question is when to run it. Before or after the Debian
>> diff is built.
> 
> Well, if you _need_ the makefile to clean the cruft after the build, you
> may run autogen.sh once, then "make clean", then remove the fresh
> created symlinks, then dh_clean. IMHO.

I do not need to clean the cruft and I cannot remove the symlinks.
On the contrary I need to create this files before XFMail will
build.


>> >> Not an option as far as I understand this issue 
>> >> up to now. Autobuilders have or might have problems
>> >> with this.
>> > 
>> > They should not. If they become trouble, then either your package is
>> 
>> Might be, the should not. But as a matter of fact they do. 
>> What now?
> 
> Find out what actually breaks on auto-builders and file bug reports.

Not possible. There have been many bugreports and the 
way described in doc/autotools-dev/README.Debian.gz is one
solution to this problem.
The autobuilders are not the problem by themselves. They 
fail or may fail because of newer versions of automake/autoconf/etc.
are not compatible to older versions at all times. Therefore 
the autobuilders should not have to run the autotools. Therefore
I have to run them before creating the diff and this is what
I am trying to do.
All this, like my last mails, as far as I understand this. I am
not 100% sure about this. That is why I keep posting to this 
mailing list.  ;)


> That is why compatibility is a holy grail in Debian development.

And I am trying to ensure this compatibility. I am trying to build
XFMail a way it does not suffer from weaknesses the autotools seem
to have. 


  Regards
 Florian


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Re: dpkg-source: unrepresentable changes to source

2001-11-12 Thread Michael Weber
On Mon, Nov 12, 2001 at 13:47:04 +0100, Florian Hinzmann wrote:
> Hello!
> 
> 
> On 04-Nov-2001 Steve M. Robbins wrote:
> 
> > In your original mail, the question was what to do about symbolic
> > links like "missing --> /usr/share/automake/missing".  The answer is:
> > replace them by the file to which they are linked.
> 
> Yes, thanks. I do understand another part of this autoconf
> mess now.  
> I thought the autotools might be able to copy files instead of 
> making symlinks. But it looks like I have to replace the symlinks
> with files by myself. Do you or does anyone here have a Makefile/sh 
> snippet which I might use for this task?

At least automake used to have a switch for that...

[234]% automake --help|grep copy
  -c, --copywith -a, copy missing files (default is symlink)
  

Cheers,
M/



[OT] sf.net and "free" software (was: Re: sourceforge sucks)

2001-11-12 Thread Andreas Fuchs
Today, Yven Johannes Leist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> By the way I'm of course not really of the opinion that sourceforge
> "sucks"; one really has to admit that valinux does an incredible job
> for the open source commity, hosting I think more than 16000 projects
> on their servers, which sort of explains why they are a bit slow
> sometimes.

Until I read
http://mailman.fsfeurope.org/pipermail/announce/2001-November/28.html>,
I too held that opinion, too. Now, I think one should be more careful
about where to place projects (savannah.gnu.org, maybe?).

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Source package merge

2001-11-12 Thread Andreas Rottmann
Hi folks!

I had a 'logical' software package consisting of two physical source
packages. Now I have merged them into one source pkg, named after one
of the original source pkgs.

So, concretly, 'gql' and 'gql-drivers' are becoming 'gql' (with gql
containing gql-drivers, of course).

Now there are some open bugs against gql-drivers, which I want to
close with the upload of the new gql package. Should I reassign them
to gql and close them from the changelog? (I guess so)

Also: since gql-drivers is no longer needed, I want to get it off the
archive. Is the correct way to file a bug against non-us.debian.org
(where gql-drivers resides)?

Thx for any help,
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Re: Source package merge

2001-11-12 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
> 
> Now there are some open bugs against gql-drivers, which I want to
> close with the upload of the new gql package. Should I reassign them
> to gql and close them from the changelog? (I guess so)
> 

looks like you have never had someone accidently close a bug of yours (-: 
Just close the bug as is, because the bug is closed by your upload.

> Also: since gql-drivers is no longer needed, I want to get it off the
> archive. Is the correct way to file a bug against non-us.debian.org
> (where gql-drivers resides)?
> 

usually it is ftp.d.o, but in this case non-us.d.o sounds right.



Re: your mail

2001-11-12 Thread John H. Robinson, IV
On Mon, Nov 12, 2001 at 12:38:46PM +0100, Gundolf Kiefer wrote:
> 
> I have written a piece of software that I would like to offer for inclusion
> into a future release of Debian
> 
> I am not a Debian developer,
> 
> How can I proceed further?

one of two ways: you can apply to become a debian developer
http://www.debian.org/devel/join/newmaint

or you can file a Request for Package be sending an email to the Bug
Tracking System.
http://www.debian.org/devel/wnpp/ describes the proper format.

whichever way you decide to go, i wish you luck!

-john



Re: Source package merge

2001-11-12 Thread Josip Rodin
On Mon, Nov 12, 2001 at 12:46:16PM -0800, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote:
> > Also: since gql-drivers is no longer needed, I want to get it off the
> > archive. Is the correct way to file a bug against non-us.debian.org
> > (where gql-drivers resides)?
> 
> usually it is ftp.d.o, but in this case non-us.d.o sounds right.

BTW that's nonus.debian.org, the pseudo-package doesn't seem to include the
hyphen.

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Re: [OT] sf.net and "free" software (was: Re: sourceforge sucks)

2001-11-12 Thread Russell Coker
On Mon, 12 Nov 2001 21:24, Andreas Fuchs wrote:
> Today, Yven Johannes Leist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > By the way I'm of course not really of the opinion that sourceforge
> > "sucks"; one really has to admit that valinux does an incredible job
> > for the open source commity, hosting I think more than 16000 projects
> > on their servers, which sort of explains why they are a bit slow
> > sometimes.
>
> Until I read
> http://mailman.fsfeurope.org/pipermail/announce/2001-November/28.h
>tml>, I too held that opinion, too. Now, I think one should be more careful
> about where to place projects (savannah.gnu.org, maybe?).

OK.  I think that we should ideally have a Debian portal providing 
source-forge like functionality (maybe with this GNU package of software).

I am sure that we will soon have many such portals to choose from, but I 
would prefer to host Portslave, Bonnie++, Postal, and my other projects on a 
Debian based site.

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Adding a specific unrecognized lib to shlibs using debhelper?

2001-11-12 Thread Yves Arrouye

Sorry if that's an FAQ. I searched some on archives and didn't find what I
wanted. The next release of ICU may have a library

 /usr/lib/libicudt20l.so

which is not recognized by dh_makeshlibs because it has the wrong naming
convention. As a result lintian complains my package contains a lib that is
not I shlibs (nor md5sums). How can I add it? I tried having an shlibs.local
but this describes properly named libraries, so... 

I am working upstream (I am one of the developers, but we need consensus for
such changes) to fix that but if I can't, what can I do besides always
carrying a diff to rename this library in the build? How can I make the
package list it?

Thanks,
YA
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Re: sourceforge sucks

2001-11-12 Thread Roland Mas

Yven Johannes Leist (2001-11-10 18:22:26 +0100) :

> On Saturday 10 November 2001 18:13, Yven Johannes Leist wrote:
>> das mit dem release könnte noch dauern, suckforge ist gerade grauenhaft
>> langsam bis überhaupt nicht mehr responding :-((

> sorry for the inconvenience, this message was not supposed to go
> here, I must have hit the wrong button.

I don't understand much German, but it sounded like you're not very
happy with Sourceforge.net.  I can therefore only suggest you install
your own Sourceforge, for which there is a package (maintained by
yours truly).  It's not as current as sf.net, obviously, since the
upstream code hasn't been released for a while, but it works rather
fine.  Of course, if it doesn't, bug reports are welcome :-)

Roland.
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[no subject]

2001-11-12 Thread Gundolf Kiefer

Dear friends,

I have written a piece of software that I would like to offer for inclusion
into a future release of Debian (it is a lightweight, non-intrusive backup
tool targeting standalone/home computers that combines some properties I could
not find in previously existing tools that way).

I am not a Debian developer, however, I have created the necessary packaging
metadata according to the Debian Packaging Manual and the Policy Manual.
Lintian v1.10 does not report any problems.

How can I proceed further?

All information about the tool can be found at http://backup2l.sourceforge.net

Gundolf


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Re: sourceforge sucks

2001-11-12 Thread Yven Johannes Leist

On Monday 12 November 2001 09:59, Roland Mas wrote:
> Yven Johannes Leist (2001-11-10 18:22:26 +0100) :
> > On Saturday 10 November 2001 18:13, Yven Johannes Leist wrote:
> >> das mit dem release könnte noch dauern, suckforge ist gerade grauenhaft
> >> langsam bis überhaupt nicht mehr responding :-((
> >
> > sorry for the inconvenience, this message was not supposed to go
> > here, I must have hit the wrong button.
>
> I don't understand much German, but it sounded like you're not very
> happy with Sourceforge.net.  I can therefore only suggest you install
> your own Sourceforge, for which there is a package (maintained by
> yours truly).  It's not as current as sf.net, obviously, since the
> upstream code hasn't been released for a while, but it works rather
> fine.  Of course, if it doesn't, bug reports are welcome :-)

Thanks for the hint, I did so already, (and I think you've done a great job 
with this package), 
but my problem with sourceforge.net was simply that I could not upload a new 
release for our project xnap (for which there is a debian package by the way) 
for quite a long time due to their servers being totally unresponding; 

By the way I'm of course not really of the opinion that sourceforge "sucks"; 
one really has to admit that valinux does an incredible job for the open 
source commity, hosting I think more than 16000 projects on their servers, 
which sort of explains why they are a bit slow sometimes.

Cheers,
Yven

P.S. It would be fantastic if anyone on this list had a look at the debian 
package of xnap, to be found here: 
http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=9285
Warning:  you need java 1.3 so that probably severely limits the number of 
people willing to try it :-(
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Re: dpkg-source: unrepresentable changes to source

2001-11-12 Thread Florian Hinzmann

Hello!


On 04-Nov-2001 Steve M. Robbins wrote:

> In your original mail, the question was what to do about symbolic
> links like "missing --> /usr/share/automake/missing".  The answer is:
> replace them by the file to which they are linked.

Yes, thanks. I do understand another part of this autoconf
mess now.  
I thought the autotools might be able to copy files instead of 
making symlinks. But it looks like I have to replace the symlinks
with files by myself. Do you or does anyone here have a Makefile/sh 
snippet which I might use for this task?


> the old version is "nonexistent".  Normally one would expect the
> source distribution to include these files (INSTALL, install-sh, etc).

No, I am packaging from the official release tar file. These needed
files are not included in upstream source. 
Upstream provides an autogen.sh script. The user is supposed
to run that script and a normal "make;make install" works
after that.


> If you are deleting the files yourself, then the fix is simple: don't
> do that.  Notwithstanding autotools-dev README, I find the best policy
> for dealing with auto-based packages is to simply drop in the latest
> /usr/share/misc/config.{guess,sub}, if required, and build.

See above, this is not true in my case.


> However, after a number of bug reports, I have changed my mind.  It
> doesn't pay to mess around with automake/autoconf/libtool and stuff
> inside debian/rules.  All I do now is: make any tweaks to Makefile.am
> or configure.in, re-run the auto-stuff on my local copy, and live with
> the enlarged diff that results.  

I do not need to change anything until now. But I need to run these
tools. You say you "re-run the auto-stuff on your local copy". As I understand
you here you run it manually and then you build the diff after that. 
I want to reach the same goal, but don't want to do it manually.
Therefore I do "mess around with automake/.. inside debian/rules" and call the
apropriate scripts there. This should lead to the same results, right?


>  If you need to run-something like
> autogen.sh that has "automake --add-missing --force", just replace the
> resulting symlinks by the corresponding file.  Again, you need only do
> this once.

What do you mean by saying I only need to do this once? I do 
replace this files everytime the symlinks get created. That is,
everytime I build a new Debian package including the diff. 
I feel I am missing your point here absolutely.  ;)


Thanks for your input!

   Florian


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Re: dpkg-source: unrepresentable changes to source

2001-11-12 Thread Florian Hinzmann

Hi Eduard!


On 04-Nov-2001 Eduard Bloch wrote:
>#include 
> Florian Hinzmann wrote on Sun Nov 04, 2001 um 08:18:47PM:
> 
>> I can't do a configure run as there is no configure script!
>> I do have to run the autotools scripts.
>> 
>> The question is when to run it. Before or after the Debian
>> diff is built.
> 
> Well, if you _need_ the makefile to clean the cruft after the build, you
> may run autogen.sh once, then "make clean", then remove the fresh
> created symlinks, then dh_clean. IMHO.

I do not need to clean the cruft and I cannot remove the symlinks.
On the contrary I need to create this files before XFMail will
build.


>> >> Not an option as far as I understand this issue 
>> >> up to now. Autobuilders have or might have problems
>> >> with this.
>> > 
>> > They should not. If they become trouble, then either your package is
>> 
>> Might be, the should not. But as a matter of fact they do. 
>> What now?
> 
> Find out what actually breaks on auto-builders and file bug reports.

Not possible. There have been many bugreports and the 
way described in doc/autotools-dev/README.Debian.gz is one
solution to this problem.
The autobuilders are not the problem by themselves. They 
fail or may fail because of newer versions of automake/autoconf/etc.
are not compatible to older versions at all times. Therefore 
the autobuilders should not have to run the autotools. Therefore
I have to run them before creating the diff and this is what
I am trying to do.
All this, like my last mails, as far as I understand this. I am
not 100% sure about this. That is why I keep posting to this 
mailing list.  ;)


> That is why compatibility is a holy grail in Debian development.

And I am trying to ensure this compatibility. I am trying to build
XFMail a way it does not suffer from weaknesses the autotools seem
to have. 


  Regards
 Florian


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Re: dpkg-source: unrepresentable changes to source

2001-11-12 Thread Michael Weber

On Mon, Nov 12, 2001 at 13:47:04 +0100, Florian Hinzmann wrote:
> Hello!
> 
> 
> On 04-Nov-2001 Steve M. Robbins wrote:
> 
> > In your original mail, the question was what to do about symbolic
> > links like "missing --> /usr/share/automake/missing".  The answer is:
> > replace them by the file to which they are linked.
> 
> Yes, thanks. I do understand another part of this autoconf
> mess now.  
> I thought the autotools might be able to copy files instead of 
> making symlinks. But it looks like I have to replace the symlinks
> with files by myself. Do you or does anyone here have a Makefile/sh 
> snippet which I might use for this task?

At least automake used to have a switch for that...

[234]% automake --help|grep copy
  -c, --copywith -a, copy missing files (default is symlink)
  

Cheers,
M/


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[OT] sf.net and "free" software (was: Re: sourceforge sucks)

2001-11-12 Thread Andreas Fuchs

Today, Yven Johannes Leist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> By the way I'm of course not really of the opinion that sourceforge
> "sucks"; one really has to admit that valinux does an incredible job
> for the open source commity, hosting I think more than 16000 projects
> on their servers, which sort of explains why they are a bit slow
> sometimes.

Until I read
http://mailman.fsfeurope.org/pipermail/announce/2001-November/28.html>,
I too held that opinion, too. Now, I think one should be more careful
about where to place projects (savannah.gnu.org, maybe?).

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Source package merge

2001-11-12 Thread Andreas Rottmann

Hi folks!

I had a 'logical' software package consisting of two physical source
packages. Now I have merged them into one source pkg, named after one
of the original source pkgs.

So, concretly, 'gql' and 'gql-drivers' are becoming 'gql' (with gql
containing gql-drivers, of course).

Now there are some open bugs against gql-drivers, which I want to
close with the upload of the new gql package. Should I reassign them
to gql and close them from the changelog? (I guess so)

Also: since gql-drivers is no longer needed, I want to get it off the
archive. Is the correct way to file a bug against non-us.debian.org
(where gql-drivers resides)?

Thx for any help,
Andy
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Re: Source package merge

2001-11-12 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry

> 
> Now there are some open bugs against gql-drivers, which I want to
> close with the upload of the new gql package. Should I reassign them
> to gql and close them from the changelog? (I guess so)
> 

looks like you have never had someone accidently close a bug of yours (-: 
Just close the bug as is, because the bug is closed by your upload.

> Also: since gql-drivers is no longer needed, I want to get it off the
> archive. Is the correct way to file a bug against non-us.debian.org
> (where gql-drivers resides)?
> 

usually it is ftp.d.o, but in this case non-us.d.o sounds right.


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Re: your mail

2001-11-12 Thread John H. Robinson, IV

On Mon, Nov 12, 2001 at 12:38:46PM +0100, Gundolf Kiefer wrote:
> 
> I have written a piece of software that I would like to offer for inclusion
> into a future release of Debian
> 
> I am not a Debian developer,
> 
> How can I proceed further?

one of two ways: you can apply to become a debian developer
http://www.debian.org/devel/join/newmaint

or you can file a Request for Package be sending an email to the Bug
Tracking System.
http://www.debian.org/devel/wnpp/ describes the proper format.

whichever way you decide to go, i wish you luck!

-john


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Re: Source package merge

2001-11-12 Thread Josip Rodin

On Mon, Nov 12, 2001 at 12:46:16PM -0800, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote:
> > Also: since gql-drivers is no longer needed, I want to get it off the
> > archive. Is the correct way to file a bug against non-us.debian.org
> > (where gql-drivers resides)?
> 
> usually it is ftp.d.o, but in this case non-us.d.o sounds right.

BTW that's nonus.debian.org, the pseudo-package doesn't seem to include the
hyphen.

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Re: [OT] sf.net and "free" software (was: Re: sourceforge sucks)

2001-11-12 Thread Russell Coker

On Mon, 12 Nov 2001 21:24, Andreas Fuchs wrote:
> Today, Yven Johannes Leist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > By the way I'm of course not really of the opinion that sourceforge
> > "sucks"; one really has to admit that valinux does an incredible job
> > for the open source commity, hosting I think more than 16000 projects
> > on their servers, which sort of explains why they are a bit slow
> > sometimes.
>
> Until I read
> http://mailman.fsfeurope.org/pipermail/announce/2001-November/28.h
>tml>, I too held that opinion, too. Now, I think one should be more careful
> about where to place projects (savannah.gnu.org, maybe?).

OK.  I think that we should ideally have a Debian portal providing 
source-forge like functionality (maybe with this GNU package of software).

I am sure that we will soon have many such portals to choose from, but I 
would prefer to host Portslave, Bonnie++, Postal, and my other projects on a 
Debian based site.

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