Re: Wcal packaging question

2002-01-23 Thread Wouter Eerdekens

On Wed, Jan 23, 2002 at 10:42:59AM -0800, John H. Robinson, IV wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 23, 2002 at 07:04:25PM +0100, Wouter Eerdekens wrote:
> > 
> > Another thing is the apache config: it must be edited before one can
> > use wcal: I added the following:
> 
> there are other webservers besides apache.
> like boa.

I know, but the READE/INSTALL (I don't know which at the moment, I'm on
a different machine) only talks about apache, I only use apache, and
at the moment, the only people I know using the deb all use apache.

I'm creating this package to "master the art of packaging", and I have
no idea how to automate the updating of the apache configuration
"cleanly", let alone how to do this for every webserver...

(But the deb alreade depends on httpd, not on apache :) ...  )

> 
> is there a generic handler to add the cgi information to the webserver
> backends? i am not aware of any.
> 
> i doubt that wcal is so closely welded to the apache webserver that it
> cannot work with any of the other webservers available.
> 
> i have no solutions for you, but i do want to bring up the awareness
> issue: there is more than one httpd.
> 
> -john
> 
> i count a dozen in sid:
> % grep-available --count -F Provides httpd
> 12
> 
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Re: Wcal packaging question

2002-01-23 Thread Gunnar Wolf

Hi,

Debian policy states that the directory for CGI content should be
/usr/lib/cgi-bin - Create a directory (say, /usr/lib/cgi-bin/wcal) and
install in it.

You should not need to modify Apache configuration - This directory is
already scrpiptaliased in a default Debian installation.

Always, if possible, avoid messing with other programs. If you have to...
Well, then do it ;-) but I would recommend you not to.

Greetings,

> Hi,
>
> First of all: I am not an official debian developer.
>
> I'm packaging Wcal (a web-based calender/planner). It is by no means an
> official deb, but I want to do it as good as possible. I have some
> questions though:
>
> The Wcal installer asks me for the "HTML directory for wcal". This is
> the directory that holds the CGI scripts and images (according to
> INSTALL).
>
> I currently use /var/www/wcal for this, but I doubt it is the right
> place for it. (I wouldn't like packages installing stuff in
> /var/www anyhow...). Can anybody give some advice on this?
>
> Another thing is the apache config: it must be edited before one can
> use wcal: I added the following:
>
> 
>AddHandler cgi-script .cgi
>DirectoryIndex index.cgi
>Options +ExecCGI
> 
>
> How should I do this in the postinstall? Will it be overwritten when
> there's an apache update? I currently put this in README.Debian, and
> ask the user to it him/herself.
>
> Thanks in advance, hope this is the right place to ask this kind of
> questions...
>
> Wouter
>
>

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Portable system logging

2002-01-23 Thread Bob Hilliard

 I am in the process of implementing an option for dictd to permit
the user to select which logging facility will be used by syslog.  I
have used the openlog() and syslog() functions, and the facilities
listed in /usr/include/sys/syslog.h.

 I have just realized that sysklogd is Architecture: i386.  Is
there a similar logging package for other architectures with an
interface that is compatible with i-386 syslog?

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Re: Portable system logging

2002-01-23 Thread Russell Coker

On Thu, 24 Jan 2002 10:15, Bob Hilliard wrote:
>  I am in the process of implementing an option for dictd to permit
> the user to select which logging facility will be used by syslog.  I
> have used the openlog() and syslog() functions, and the facilities
> listed in /usr/include/sys/syslog.h.
>
>  I have just realized that sysklogd is Architecture: i386.  Is
> there a similar logging package for other architectures with an
> interface that is compatible with i-386 syslog?

The interface is the same on other CPUs and other versions of Unix.  
openlog() and syslog() were originally for BSD Unix (I think) but are now in 
all versions of Unix.

Anyway I just checked the debian/control file for sysklogd:
Package: sysklogd
Architecture: any

So it's not i386...

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The Minifon, developed in the early 1950s by Monske GMBH of Hanover(or by
Protona GMBH- I'm not certain), was an ultra-miniaturized, battery
operated magnetic recording device. It could not (initially at least)
record the full range of sounds and was thus limited to voice recording,
but it did offer easy portability in a very small package. The idea of
offering a pocket dictating machine was novel, since dictation had
previously been done in the office. However, it was thought that people
like salesmen could take the machine "on the road" with them. Once on the
market, the Minifon's promoters discovered that many people took advantage
of the recorder's small size to make secret recordings to be used as
evidence, as in court.

The "legitimate" use of the Minifon, as a dictating machine, was somewhat
problematical. Recordings made on regular dictating equipment were usually
letters, and thus were normally sent almost immediately to a typist. The
Minifon offered no obvious advantages over standard dictation equipment
for office use, but its developers hoped to cultivate new uses for
dictation equipment, such as stock taking in warehouses, or the use of the
machine as a substitute for note-taking by reporters, insurance adjusters,
salesmen, and others.

In its original form, the Minifon was a wire recorder, using a type of
wire medium developed by the Armour Research Foundation of Chicago and
employed in many similar devices since the late 1940s. The machine at its
introduction in 1952 had a recording time of one hour, which was
remarkably long, and weighed only about 3 pounds at a time when a typical
office dictating machine weighed upwards of 10 pounds. It accomplished
this small size and light weight in part through the use of miniature
tubes and clever mechanical design. The basic machine cost $289.50-- a
price that sounds high today but was very much in line with competing
office dictating machines.

The parent company attempted to set up distribution, sales and service
networks in the United States. It established a business office called the
Minifon Export Corp in New York, and an existing company, Harvey Radio in
New York City became the main distributor. Although smaller tape recorders
appeared at about the same time, the main competition in the voice
recording field was from an American company, Mohawk, which made a small,
battery-operated cartridge tape recorder called the Migetape. Both
products sold less than 10,000 units per year in the U.S.

After a few years, the Minifon was modified to use transistors and
magnetic tape, further lowering its weight and cost. By 1962 the basic
machine weighed in at only 1.5 pounds. Competition by this time had helped
bring the cost down to $249.50.

The Minifon after about 1962 was distributed by the international
conglomerate ITT through its subsidiary in the U.S., Federal Electric
Corp. A little later, distribution was taken over by the ITT Distributor
Products Division in Lodi, New Jersey. (I don't know whether these were
the same company with different names)

By the time ITT became associated with this product, it had taken on the
name of Minifon "Attache," and a new line of models and options appeared.
These included a hi-fi model, the 978H, which sold for $330.50.Usinga
two-track, 1/4 inch tape cartridge operating at 1 7/8 inches per second,
the machine claimed a frequency response of up to 12,000 Hz, plus or minus
3db.
The coming of magnetic tape did not completely displace wire. The Model
240 series of recorders introduced in the early 1960s were probably the
last wire recorders in regular production. The 240L, at a price of $269.50
used a special long-playing wire cartridge that held 4 hours of wire.
Otherwise it looked like both the tape model and the 240S, which

Broadcasting Solution...

2002-01-23 Thread Jenner Almanzar
Hello everyone!

I'm trying to find a cost-effective solution for a broadcast service i'm providing, so i need your help to figure this out.
This is what i got in mind: Since we know that we can put more than one sound card device in one computer, and each RS (radio station) that we broadcast through a server has a domain name (example: http://dr.radio.com:), i though to set up a server with at least 4-5 sound cards and broadcast 4-5 RS using one ip address and each RS with a different domain name. 
For example: 

- http://dr.radio.com:8001
- http://dr.radio.com:8002
- http://dr.radio.com:8003
- http://dr.radio.com:8004
- http://dr.radio.com:8005 


Here are my questions: 
- Is it possible to broadcast more than one radio stations from one server using one ip address? 

- Will it be a problem for you to receive each one of these RS signal there?
In case it's not possible, what can i do to make it happend? 

Best regards, 
Jenner 

 
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RE: Broadcasting Solution...

2002-01-23 Thread Charles




I have published multiple radio stations from a single box using 22khz stereo 

@ 24kbps per stream, this would be a encoder box, the audio card was an antex 
studio
2000 which is a multi channel card, it was not to hard to make linux 
drivers
but this hardware is windows pnp I was able to have 3 cards in one box 
and
output 3 stereo fm radios stations in stereo and send the streams on 
different ports
to the streaming server farm, it works well, to well the radio stations 
became so popular
over the internet that we where streaming 120 megs per second at a red cent 
per meg 
you are looking at a 120,000 bucks a month bandwidth charges. 
If you have a ton of cash you want to spend, drop me a line and I will set 
you up.
regards
Charles Sherwood
http://admart.ca

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  Broadcasting Solution...
  
  Hello everyone!
  
  I'm trying to find a cost-effective 
  solution for a broadcast service i'm providing, so i need your help to figure 
  this out.
  This is what i got in mind: Since we 
  know that we can put more than one sound card device in one computer, and each 
  RS (radio station) that we broadcast through a server has a domain name 
  (example: http://dr.radio.com:), i though to set up a server with at least 
  4-5 sound cards and broadcast 4-5 RS using one ip address and each RS with a 
  different domain name. 
  For example: 
  
  - http://dr.radio.com:8001
  - http://dr.radio.com:8002
  - http://dr.radio.com:8003
  - http://dr.radio.com:8004
  - http://dr.radio.com:8005 
  
  
  Here are my questions: 
  - Is it possible to broadcast more than one 
  radio stations from one server using one ip address? 
  
  - Will it be a problem for you to 
  receive each one of these RS signal there?
  In case it's not possible, what can i 
  do to make it happend? 
  
  Best regards, 
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Best practices for shared C++ libs?

2002-01-23 Thread Steve M. Robbins

Hello,


The Debian policy for shared libraries works well for C libraries.
In particular, one can generally tell if the library has retained
or broken binary compatibility so one knows whether to change the
SONAME (i.e. SONAME version) or not.

For C++ libraries, in contrast, the ABI can change just by changing
the compiler.  Some folks think that templates cause a problem, too
(see below).  How difficult is it to maintain binary compatibility
with C++ libraries?  Should we bother trying, or just give up
and embed the complete "major.minor.micro" version string into
its SONAME?

Is libtool safe to use to build C++ libraries with Debian's
compilers?  The libtool manual has this to say about C++
libraries:

 from libtool manual -


11.1 Writing libraries for C++ 

Creating libraries of C++ code should be a fairly straightforward
process, because its object files differ from C ones in only three
ways: 

  1.Because of name mangling, C++ libraries are only usable by
the C++ compiler that created them. This decision was made
by the designers of C++ in order to protect users from
conflicting implementations of features such as constructors,
exception handling, and RTTI. 

  2.On some systems, the C++ compiler must take special actions
for the dynamic linker to run dynamic (i.e., run-time)
initializers. This means that we should not call `ld' directly to
link such libraries, and we should use the C++ compiler
instead. 

  3.C++ compilers will link some Standard C++ library in by
default, but libtool does not know which are these libraries, so
it cannot even run the inter-library dependence analyzer to
check how to link it in. Therefore, running `ld' to link a C++
program or library is deemed to fail. However, running the
C++ compiler directly may lead to problems related with
inter-library dependencies. 

The conclusion is that libtool is not ready for general use for C++
libraries. You should avoid any global or static variable
initializations that would cause an "initializer element is not
constant" error if you compiled them with a standard C compiler. 

There are other ways of working around this problem, but they are
beyond the scope of this manual. 

Furthermore, you'd better find out, at configure time, what are the
C++ Standard libraries that the C++ compiler will link in by
default, and explicitly list them in the link command line.
Hopefully, in the future, libtool will be able to do this job by itself. 

-

Is #2 or #3 an issue with any of the compilers in Debian?


Here's a message about the Boost libraries.  Remember that
John Maddock is concerned about binary compatibility
on many different platforms, not just Debian.  However,
I'm curious whether this is an issue for Debian or not.


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At the risk of throwing cold water all over the place, one reason that I've
always avoided version numbering shared libraries with the regex code is
that it's not at all clear to me that it's possible to maintain binary
compatibility in C++.  In C it's pretty obvious if you do anything to break
binary compatibility, it's not clear to me what in C++ breaks compatibility
and what doesn't, particularly when the library contains template instances
*and* the compiler does link-time template instantiation.  I would guess
that one would have to ensure that the library always contained the same
template instances - probably by doing explicit template instantiation - I
for one don't want to go into that level of detail.  It is also apparent to
me that at least one commercial vendor of C++ libraries (Rogue Wave) never
assume that updated versions of their standard lib are binary compatible
with previous versions, I would be interested to know if anyone has ever
maintained binary compatibility with in C++ libraries as complex as boost. 
So the question is, if binary compatibility is effectively impossible, what
do we do?  Increment the major version number with every boost release? 
Remember that even if I think that regex hasn't changed, something it
depends upon (shared pointer for eg) may have :-(

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Re: Wcal packaging question

2002-01-23 Thread Wouter Eerdekens

On Wed, Jan 23, 2002 at 01:58:41PM -0600, Gunnar Wolf wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Debian policy states that the directory for CGI content should be
> /usr/lib/cgi-bin - Create a directory (say, /usr/lib/cgi-bin/wcal) and
> install in it.

Thanks, I'll see how I can do that (the installer installs the cgi's and
the images in $html_dir, so I guess I'll have to split $html_dir in 
the installer in a cgi and an images section...

> 
> You should not need to modify Apache configuration - This directory is
> already scrpiptaliased in a default Debian installation.

I know, I only had to change it because the cgi's were installed in
/var/www/wcal... 

> 
> Always, if possible, avoid messing with other programs. If you have to...
> Well, then do it ;-) but I would recommend you not to.
> 
> Greetings,

Thanks for the advice!

Wouter

> 
> > Hi,
> >
> > First of all: I am not an official debian developer.
> >
> > I'm packaging Wcal (a web-based calender/planner). It is by no means an
> > official deb, but I want to do it as good as possible. I have some
> > questions though:
> >
> > The Wcal installer asks me for the "HTML directory for wcal". This is
> > the directory that holds the CGI scripts and images (according to
> > INSTALL).
> >
> > I currently use /var/www/wcal for this, but I doubt it is the right
> > place for it. (I wouldn't like packages installing stuff in
> > /var/www anyhow...). Can anybody give some advice on this?
> >
> > Another thing is the apache config: it must be edited before one can
> > use wcal: I added the following:
> >
> > 
> >AddHandler cgi-script .cgi
> >DirectoryIndex index.cgi
> >Options +ExecCGI
> > 
> >
> > How should I do this in the postinstall? Will it be overwritten when
> > there's an apache update? I currently put this in README.Debian, and
> > ask the user to it him/herself.
> >
> > Thanks in advance, hope this is the right place to ask this kind of
> > questions...
> >
> > Wouter
> >
> >
> 
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one source -> two sections (main and contrib) = possible?

2002-01-23 Thread Stefan Schwandter

Hello,


I'm preparing a new snd package. Because snd still works better with
motif I made three versions of my package: snd (with gtk), snd-dmotif
and snd-smotif. I have to use OpenMotif so snd-{s,d}motif have to go
into contrib.

Am I doing the right thing when I build the free package from one source
(snd) and the other packages from another (snd-motif), or can I build
all binary packages from one source? I don't think so, but I want to be
sure...


regards, Stefan

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Re: one source -> two sections (main and contrib) = possible?

2002-01-23 Thread Mark Brown
On Wed, Jan 23, 2002 at 01:54:05PM +0100, Stefan Schwandter wrote:

> Am I doing the right thing when I build the free package from one source
> (snd) and the other packages from another (snd-motif), or can I build
> all binary packages from one source? I don't think so, but I want to be
> sure...

You are doing the right thing - if you built the contrib packages from
the same source package as the packages in main then either the source
package in main wouldn't build without things from outside main or there
would be binaries in main without a corresponding source package.

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Re: Bug#89433: I want to adopt osh

2002-01-23 Thread Taketoshi Sano
Hi, junichi.   Excuse me, I was too harsh and rude on you
in my last mail.

In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
 on "Wed, 23 Jan 2002 04:05:11 +0900",
 with "Re: Bug#89433: I want to adopt osh",
  Junichi Uekawa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Ah, I've probably missed this point.
> 
> I don't know what his intent was, but I can see a possibility now.
> 
> In fact, I thought he was trying to say that 
> "debuild" will unset all variables on invocation, unless
> specified otherwise in the command-line.

You won.  According to the last Oohara's mail,
he actually misunderstood as you thought.

> Maybe he was just talking about shell constructs.

I'd thought he was, so I couldn't understand why you 
opened the lesson on shell grammer here, instead of just 
writing "Don't put such tirivial things in debian/rules".

But I was wrong.  Your lesson worked for him, I see now.

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Wcal packaging question

2002-01-23 Thread Wouter Eerdekens
Hi,

First of all: I am not an official debian developer.

I'm packaging Wcal (a web-based calender/planner). It is by no means an
official deb, but I want to do it as good as possible. I have some
questions though:

The Wcal installer asks me for the "HTML directory for wcal". This is
the directory that holds the CGI scripts and images (according to
INSTALL).

I currently use /var/www/wcal for this, but I doubt it is the right
place for it. (I wouldn't like packages installing stuff in
/var/www anyhow...). Can anybody give some advice on this?

Another thing is the apache config: it must be edited before one can
use wcal: I added the following:


   AddHandler cgi-script .cgi
   DirectoryIndex index.cgi
   Options +ExecCGI


How should I do this in the postinstall? Will it be overwritten when
there's an apache update? I currently put this in README.Debian, and
ask the user to it him/herself.

Thanks in advance, hope this is the right place to ask this kind of
questions...

Wouter

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Re: Wcal packaging question

2002-01-23 Thread John H. Robinson, IV
On Wed, Jan 23, 2002 at 07:04:25PM +0100, Wouter Eerdekens wrote:
> 
> Another thing is the apache config: it must be edited before one can
> use wcal: I added the following:

there are other webservers besides apache.
like boa.

is there a generic handler to add the cgi information to the webserver
backends? i am not aware of any.

i doubt that wcal is so closely welded to the apache webserver that it
cannot work with any of the other webservers available.

i have no solutions for you, but i do want to bring up the awareness
issue: there is more than one httpd.

-john

i count a dozen in sid:
% grep-available --count -F Provides httpd
12



Re: Wcal packaging question

2002-01-23 Thread Wouter Eerdekens
On Wed, Jan 23, 2002 at 10:42:59AM -0800, John H. Robinson, IV wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 23, 2002 at 07:04:25PM +0100, Wouter Eerdekens wrote:
> > 
> > Another thing is the apache config: it must be edited before one can
> > use wcal: I added the following:
> 
> there are other webservers besides apache.
> like boa.

I know, but the READE/INSTALL (I don't know which at the moment, I'm on
a different machine) only talks about apache, I only use apache, and
at the moment, the only people I know using the deb all use apache.

I'm creating this package to "master the art of packaging", and I have
no idea how to automate the updating of the apache configuration
"cleanly", let alone how to do this for every webserver...

(But the deb alreade depends on httpd, not on apache :) ...  )

> 
> is there a generic handler to add the cgi information to the webserver
> backends? i am not aware of any.
> 
> i doubt that wcal is so closely welded to the apache webserver that it
> cannot work with any of the other webservers available.
> 
> i have no solutions for you, but i do want to bring up the awareness
> issue: there is more than one httpd.
> 
> -john
> 
> i count a dozen in sid:
> % grep-available --count -F Provides httpd
> 12
> 
> 
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Re: Wcal packaging question

2002-01-23 Thread Gunnar Wolf
Hi,

Debian policy states that the directory for CGI content should be
/usr/lib/cgi-bin - Create a directory (say, /usr/lib/cgi-bin/wcal) and
install in it.

You should not need to modify Apache configuration - This directory is
already scrpiptaliased in a default Debian installation.

Always, if possible, avoid messing with other programs. If you have to...
Well, then do it ;-) but I would recommend you not to.

Greetings,

> Hi,
>
> First of all: I am not an official debian developer.
>
> I'm packaging Wcal (a web-based calender/planner). It is by no means an
> official deb, but I want to do it as good as possible. I have some
> questions though:
>
> The Wcal installer asks me for the "HTML directory for wcal". This is
> the directory that holds the CGI scripts and images (according to
> INSTALL).
>
> I currently use /var/www/wcal for this, but I doubt it is the right
> place for it. (I wouldn't like packages installing stuff in
> /var/www anyhow...). Can anybody give some advice on this?
>
> Another thing is the apache config: it must be edited before one can
> use wcal: I added the following:
>
> 
>AddHandler cgi-script .cgi
>DirectoryIndex index.cgi
>Options +ExecCGI
> 
>
> How should I do this in the postinstall? Will it be overwritten when
> there's an apache update? I currently put this in README.Debian, and
> ask the user to it him/herself.
>
> Thanks in advance, hope this is the right place to ask this kind of
> questions...
>
> Wouter
>
>

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Portable system logging

2002-01-23 Thread Bob Hilliard
 I am in the process of implementing an option for dictd to permit
the user to select which logging facility will be used by syslog.  I
have used the openlog() and syslog() functions, and the facilities
listed in /usr/include/sys/syslog.h.

 I have just realized that sysklogd is Architecture: i386.  Is
there a similar logging package for other architectures with an
interface that is compatible with i-386 syslog?

Bob
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Re: Portable system logging

2002-01-23 Thread Russell Coker
On Thu, 24 Jan 2002 10:15, Bob Hilliard wrote:
>  I am in the process of implementing an option for dictd to permit
> the user to select which logging facility will be used by syslog.  I
> have used the openlog() and syslog() functions, and the facilities
> listed in /usr/include/sys/syslog.h.
>
>  I have just realized that sysklogd is Architecture: i386.  Is
> there a similar logging package for other architectures with an
> interface that is compatible with i-386 syslog?

The interface is the same on other CPUs and other versions of Unix.  
openlog() and syslog() were originally for BSD Unix (I think) but are now in 
all versions of Unix.

Anyway I just checked the debian/control file for sysklogd:
Package: sysklogd
Architecture: any

So it's not i386...

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SOME ITEMS THAT YOU MAY BE INTERESTED IN OR BE ABLE TO ADVISE ME ON

2002-01-23 Thread kriss rolo
These are the items that iam interested in selling..
Could you help me with some details on the goods, history, origin etc.
are these worth anything and if so who would i contact with regards to
selling them? and the best way to sell them ie auction etc

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item 2

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item 3

miniture football on stand from euro96 signed by pele and bobby charlton

 

item 4
is a bit more interesting. its a protana minifon attache, as u will see
ive enclosed notes from a web site regarding this and you will see back in
the 50's it cost $340.00 so i could imagine this to be worth a bit. it
also has an original tape inside i do not know what is on this tape, but
judging by who made it and the cost of the machine, the tape could have
some important information on it. heres the note.

 

The Minifon, developed in the early 1950s by Monske GMBH of Hanover(or by
Protona GMBH- I'm not certain), was an ultra-miniaturized, battery
operated magnetic recording device. It could not (initially at least)
record the full range of sounds and was thus limited to voice recording,
but it did offer easy portability in a very small package. The idea of
offering a pocket dictating machine was novel, since dictation had
previously been done in the office. However, it was thought that people
like salesmen could take the machine "on the road" with them. Once on the
market, the Minifon's promoters discovered that many people took advantage
of the recorder's small size to make secret recordings to be used as
evidence, as in court.

The "legitimate" use of the Minifon, as a dictating machine, was somewhat
problematical. Recordings made on regular dictating equipment were usually
letters, and thus were normally sent almost immediately to a typist. The
Minifon offered no obvious advantages over standard dictation equipment
for office use, but its developers hoped to cultivate new uses for
dictation equipment, such as stock taking in warehouses, or the use of the
machine as a substitute for note-taking by reporters, insurance adjusters,
salesmen, and others.

In its original form, the Minifon was a wire recorder, using a type of
wire medium developed by the Armour Research Foundation of Chicago and
employed in many similar devices since the late 1940s. The machine at its
introduction in 1952 had a recording time of one hour, which was
remarkably long, and weighed only about 3 pounds at a time when a typical
office dictating machine weighed upwards of 10 pounds. It accomplished
this small size and light weight in part through the use of miniature
tubes and clever mechanical design. The basic machine cost $289.50-- a
price that sounds high today but was very much in line with competing
office dictating machines.

The parent company attempted to set up distribution, sales and service
networks in the United States. It established a business office called the
Minifon Export Corp in New York, and an existing company, Harvey Radio in
New York City became the main distributor. Although smaller tape recorders
appeared at about the same time, the main competition in the voice
recording field was from an American company, Mohawk, which made a small,
battery-operated cartridge tape recorder called the Migetape. Both
products sold less than 10,000 units per year in the U.S.

After a few years, the Minifon was modified to use transistors and
magnetic tape, further lowering its weight and cost. By 1962 the basic
machine weighed in at only 1.5 pounds. Competition by this time had helped
bring the cost down to $249.50.

The Minifon after about 1962 was distributed by the international
conglomerate ITT through its subsidiary in the U.S., Federal Electric
Corp. A little later, distribution was taken over by the ITT Distributor
Products Division in Lodi, New Jersey. (I don't know whether these were
the same company with different names)

By the time ITT became associated with this product, it had taken on the
name of Minifon "Attache," and a new line of models and options appeared.
These included a hi-fi model, the 978H, which sold for $330.50.Usinga
two-track, 1/4 inch tape cartridge operating at 1 7/8 inches per second,
the machine claimed a frequency response of up to 12,000 Hz, plus or minus
3db.
The coming of magnetic tape did not completely displace wire. The Model
240 series of recorders introduced in the early 1960s were probably the
last wire recorders in regular production. The 240L, at a price of $269.50
used a special long-playing wire cartridge that held 4 hours of wire.
Otherwise it looked like both the tape model and the 240S, which 

Broadcasting Solution...

2002-01-23 Thread Jenner Almanzar
Hello everyone!

I'm trying to find a cost-effective solution for a broadcast service i'm providing, so i need your help to figure this out.
This is what i got in mind: Since we know that we can put more than one sound card device in one computer, and each RS (radio station) that we broadcast through a server has a domain name (example: http://dr.radio.com:), i though to set up a server with at least 4-5 sound cards and broadcast 4-5 RS using one ip address and each RS with a different domain name. 
For example: 

- http://dr.radio.com:8001
- http://dr.radio.com:8002
- http://dr.radio.com:8003
- http://dr.radio.com:8004
- http://dr.radio.com:8005 


Here are my questions: 
- Is it possible to broadcast more than one radio stations from one server using one ip address? 

- Will it be a problem for you to receive each one of these RS signal there?
In case it's not possible, what can i do to make it happend? 

Best regards, 
Jenner 

 
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RE: Broadcasting Solution...

2002-01-23 Thread Charles




I have published multiple radio stations from a single box using 22khz stereo 

@ 24kbps per stream, this would be a encoder box, the audio card was an antex 
studio
2000 which is a multi channel card, it was not to hard to make linux 
drivers
but this hardware is windows pnp I was able to have 3 cards in one box 
and
output 3 stereo fm radios stations in stereo and send the streams on 
different ports
to the streaming server farm, it works well, to well the radio stations 
became so popular
over the internet that we where streaming 120 megs per second at a red cent 
per meg 
you are looking at a 120,000 bucks a month bandwidth charges. 
If you have a ton of cash you want to spend, drop me a line and I will set 
you up.
regards
Charles Sherwood
http://admart.ca

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  PMTo: debian-user@lists.debian.org; 
  debian-consultants@lists.debian.org; debian-devel@lists.debian.org; 
  debian-mentors@lists.debian.org; debian-ssh@lists.debian.org; 
  debian-www@lists.debian.org; debian-x@lists.debian.orgSubject: 
  Broadcasting Solution...
  
  Hello everyone!
  
  I'm trying to find a cost-effective 
  solution for a broadcast service i'm providing, so i need your help to figure 
  this out.
  This is what i got in mind: Since we 
  know that we can put more than one sound card device in one computer, and each 
  RS (radio station) that we broadcast through a server has a domain name 
  (example: http://dr.radio.com:), i though to set up a server with at least 
  4-5 sound cards and broadcast 4-5 RS using one ip address and each RS with a 
  different domain name. 
  For example: 
  
  - http://dr.radio.com:8001
  - http://dr.radio.com:8002
  - http://dr.radio.com:8003
  - http://dr.radio.com:8004
  - http://dr.radio.com:8005 
  
  
  Here are my questions: 
  - Is it possible to broadcast more than one 
  radio stations from one server using one ip address? 
  
  - Will it be a problem for you to 
  receive each one of these RS signal there?
  In case it's not possible, what can i 
  do to make it happend? 
  
  Best regards, 
  Jenner 
  
   
  
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Best practices for shared C++ libs?

2002-01-23 Thread Steve M. Robbins
Hello,


The Debian policy for shared libraries works well for C libraries.
In particular, one can generally tell if the library has retained
or broken binary compatibility so one knows whether to change the
SONAME (i.e. SONAME version) or not.

For C++ libraries, in contrast, the ABI can change just by changing
the compiler.  Some folks think that templates cause a problem, too
(see below).  How difficult is it to maintain binary compatibility
with C++ libraries?  Should we bother trying, or just give up
and embed the complete "major.minor.micro" version string into
its SONAME?

Is libtool safe to use to build C++ libraries with Debian's
compilers?  The libtool manual has this to say about C++
libraries:

 from libtool manual -


11.1 Writing libraries for C++ 

Creating libraries of C++ code should be a fairly straightforward
process, because its object files differ from C ones in only three
ways: 

  1.Because of name mangling, C++ libraries are only usable by
the C++ compiler that created them. This decision was made
by the designers of C++ in order to protect users from
conflicting implementations of features such as constructors,
exception handling, and RTTI. 

  2.On some systems, the C++ compiler must take special actions
for the dynamic linker to run dynamic (i.e., run-time)
initializers. This means that we should not call `ld' directly to
link such libraries, and we should use the C++ compiler
instead. 

  3.C++ compilers will link some Standard C++ library in by
default, but libtool does not know which are these libraries, so
it cannot even run the inter-library dependence analyzer to
check how to link it in. Therefore, running `ld' to link a C++
program or library is deemed to fail. However, running the
C++ compiler directly may lead to problems related with
inter-library dependencies. 

The conclusion is that libtool is not ready for general use for C++
libraries. You should avoid any global or static variable
initializations that would cause an "initializer element is not
constant" error if you compiled them with a standard C compiler. 

There are other ways of working around this problem, but they are
beyond the scope of this manual. 

Furthermore, you'd better find out, at configure time, what are the
C++ Standard libraries that the C++ compiler will link in by
default, and explicitly list them in the link command line.
Hopefully, in the future, libtool will be able to do this job by itself. 

-

Is #2 or #3 an issue with any of the compilers in Debian?


Here's a message about the Boost libraries.  Remember that
John Maddock is concerned about binary compatibility
on many different platforms, not just Debian.  However,
I'm curious whether this is an issue for Debian or not.


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Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2002 06:45:52 -0500
Subject: Re: [boost] building shared boost libraries
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At the risk of throwing cold water all over the place, one reason that I've
always avoided version numbering shared libraries with the regex code is
that it's not at all clear to me that it's possible to maintain binary
compatibility in C++.  In C it's pretty obvious if you do anything to break
binary compatibility, it's not clear to me what in C++ breaks compatibility
and what doesn't, particularly when the library contains template instances
*and* the compiler does link-time template instantiation.  I would guess
that one would have to ensure that the library always contained the same
template instances - probably by doing explicit template instantiation - I
for one don't want to go into that level of detail.  It is also apparent to
me that at least one commercial vendor of C++ libraries (Rogue Wave) never
assume that updated versions of their standard lib are binary compatible
with previous versions, I would be interested to know if anyone has ever
maintained binary compatibility with in C++ libraries as complex as boost. 
So the question is, if binary compatibility is effectively impossible, what
do we do?  Increment the major version number with every boost release? 
Remember that even if I think that regex hasn't changed, something it
depends upon (shared pointer for eg) may have :-(

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