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Looking for tester/sponsor for koch-suite and magnetic
Hi there, I have packaged Package name: koch-suite Version : 0.7.1 Upstream Author : Michael Lestinsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> URL : http://koch-suite.berlios.de/ Licence : BSD Description : A PHP based recipe management system The Koch-Suite is a PHP-based recipe management system for Unix-like OS. It uses MySQL or PostgreSQL as database-backend. and Package name: magnetic Version : 2.1 Upstream Author : Niclas Karlsson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> David Kinder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Stefan Meier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Paul D. Doherty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Torbjörn Andersson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> URL : http://www.if-legends.org/~msmemorial/magnetic.htm Licence : GPL Description: An interpreter for Magnetic Scrolls adventures Magnetic is an interpreter for the games written between 1985 and 1991 by Magnetic Scrolls, a text adventure producer based in London, England. Although they only produced seven games they have acquired legendary status for text adventures of as good quality as Infocom accompanied by exceptional graphics. The packages can be downloaded from http://www.fgan.de/~bus/Debian/src/magnetic/ and http://www.fgan.de/~bus/Debian/src/koch-suite/ (or via apt: http://www.fgan.de/~bus/Debian testing main) As these are my first packages I'd be thankful for any suggestions and critics. Best regards, MB -- Michael Bussmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> When the men on the chessboard get up and tell you where to go, And you've just had some kind of mushroom and your mind is moving low. Go ask Alice; I think she'll know. -- Jefferson Airplane, "White Rabbit" -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RFS: gkrellmitime - Internet time plugin for gkrellm
Hi all. I'm looking for a sponsor to upload to Debian's repository gkrellmitime package. This is a new package containing an Internet plugin for gkrellm (I posted an ITP bug few months ago). The files can be obtained at: http://www.superiodico.net/debian/upload/ Thank you very much for your help. Thanks and regards. -- Juan Manuel García Molina [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: signing a GPG key with multiple uids
Osamu Aoki wrote: > On Wed, Dec 04, 2002 at 03:05:57AM +0100, Rene Engelhard wrote: > > > which have that address in it. > > > > I sign a uid when these uid's address is not bouncing and the person who > > claims to belong to this key answers a message encrypted to him sent > > to the specific uid. If the person answers to all the mails sent to > > him, I can sign all uid's. > > This sounds like good practice but burden of proof for the "activeness" > of e-mail account is on signer side. A bit unfiar, IMHO. this is as it should be. a signer needs to take Due Diligence when saying ``Yes. I know that this key matches this Name and EMail address.'' failure to do that renders that signature, and potentially all other signatures made by that signer. the whole Web-of-Trust thing. some people do take more care than others when signing, and that is okay. but the onus is always on the signer to verify that the facts as she understands them are true. -john -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Best practices of GPG signing
I am wondering what is the best practice for me to gather and exchange GPG signature. (I now have 2 e-mail accounts associated to my GPG key. One e-mail address before I joined Debian and one with @debian.org.) 1) Should I gather signature for all active e-mail addresses? (Is signature only for [EMAIL PROTECTED] enough? Is the act of asking signer to sign alternative address considered useless request? Or is it worthy cause?) 2) Should I print these alternative e-mail addresses on my Debian business card for the convenience of signer. (I never see that in my experience but people tends to have multiple uids.) 3) Is it a good practice to ask people who signed only old uid to sign new uid? (I do this with GPG signed mail.) 4) If someone who used only his ex-work address in GPG key, is it OK to sign his new uid by exchanging mail through different mail address but with properly signed mails? 5) How important is the uid field? After all e-mail address can easily be spoofed. (For me, it looks totally secondary. Important thing is possession of the secret key.) -- ~\^o^/~~~ ~\^.^/~~~ ~\^*^/~~~ ~\^_^/~~~ ~\^+^/~~~ ~\^:^/~~~ ~\^v^/~~~ + Osamu Aoki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cupertino CA USA, GPG-key: A8061F32 .''`. Debian Reference: post-installation user's guide for non-developers : :' : http://qref.sf.net and http://people.debian.org/~osamu `. `' "Our Priorities are Our Users and Free Software" --- Social Contract -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: signing a GPG key with multiple uids
Hi, On Wed, Dec 04, 2002 at 10:04:21AM -0800, John H. Robinson, IV wrote: > Osamu Aoki wrote: > > On Wed, Dec 04, 2002 at 03:05:57AM +0100, Rene Engelhard wrote: > > > > which have that address in it. > > > > > > I sign a uid when these uid's address is not bouncing and the person who > > > claims to belong to this key answers a message encrypted to him sent > > > to the specific uid. If the person answers to all the mails sent to > > > him, I can sign all uid's. > > > > This sounds like good practice but burden of proof for the "activeness" > > of e-mail account is on signer side. A bit unfiar, IMHO. > > this is as it should be. a signer needs to take Due Diligence when > saying ``Yes. I know that this key matches this Name and EMail address.'' > failure to do that renders that signature, and potentially all other > signatures made by that signer. the whole Web-of-Trust thing. > > some people do take more care than others when signing, and that is > okay. but the onus is always on the signer to verify that the facts as > she understands them are true. Sure I agree in your point of due dilligence. (I said "a bit".) I do not want to make life any harder for the people signing my GPG key either. I think question was not well formed and discussion is drifting away. I started different thread to address my real question. Thanks. Osamu -- ~\^o^/~~~ ~\^.^/~~~ ~\^*^/~~~ ~\^_^/~~~ ~\^+^/~~~ ~\^:^/~~~ ~\^v^/~~~ + Osamu Aoki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cupertino CA USA, GPG-key: A8061F32 .''`. Debian Reference: post-installation user's guide for non-developers : :' : http://qref.sf.net and http://people.debian.org/~osamu `. `' "Our Priorities are Our Users and Free Software" --- Social Contract -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: signing a GPG key with multiple uids
On Wed, Dec 04, 2002 at 11:09:09AM -0800, Osamu Aoki wrote: > I do not want to make life any harder for the people signing my GPG key > either. It's a reasonable thing to check whether an email-address is valid before signing it IMHO. Michael -- we should propose to rename the FSG to DFSG as our first action -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: signing a GPG key with multiple uids
On Wed, Dec 04, 2002 at 08:12:37PM +0100, Michael Banck wrote: > On Wed, Dec 04, 2002 at 11:09:09AM -0800, Osamu Aoki wrote: > > I do not want to make life any harder for the people signing my GPG key > > either. > > It's a reasonable thing to check whether an email-address is valid > before signing it IMHO. You guys are misunderstanding situation. I have no intention to circumvent GPG security. I have 2 valid e-mail addresses and I want both to be signed. I just did not wanted signer to skip checking alternative address. As far as "due diligence" is conceded, skipping "unsure" address was OK. But that is something I wanted to avoid. Thanks. Osamu -- ~\^o^/~~~ ~\^.^/~~~ ~\^*^/~~~ ~\^_^/~~~ ~\^+^/~~~ ~\^:^/~~~ ~\^v^/~~~ + Osamu Aoki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cupertino CA USA, GPG-key: A8061F32 .''`. Debian Reference: post-installation user's guide for non-developers : :' : http://qref.sf.net and http://people.debian.org/~osamu `. `' "Our Priorities are Our Users and Free Software" --- Social Contract -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Best practices of GPG signing
Hi, On Wed, Dec 04, 2002 at 10:59:06AM -0800, Osamu Aoki wrote: > 1) Should I gather signature for all active e-mail addresses? >(Is signature only for [EMAIL PROTECTED] enough? Is the act of asking >signer to sign alternative address considered useless request? Or is >it worthy cause?) Of course more signatures are better, as the web of trust is also useful outside of Debian. > 2) Should I print these alternative e-mail addresses on my Debian >business card for the convenience of signer. (I never see that in my >experience but people tends to have multiple uids.) Well, I have separate cards with all my uids and subkeys on them, which I use for signing purposes. Business cards are something different, I have different cards for different "personalities" of mine -- i.e. one with my private address, one for Debian, one for the uni, one for work, ... But I think this is sort of the German mentality to keep everything apart. > 3) Is it a good practice to ask people who signed only old uid to sign >new uid? (I do this with GPG signed mail.) I'd say it depends. It makes sense if you're going to make heavy use of the new uid, so people can easily validate it. > 4) If someone who used only his ex-work address in GPG key, is it OK to >sign his new uid by exchanging mail through different mail address >but with properly signed mails? I think yes, because that should still be the same person, and if the key was stolen and someone is trying to get mails diverted, there should be a revocation around soon. > 5) How important is the uid field? After all e-mail address can easily >be spoofed. (For me, it looks totally secondary. Important thing is >possession of the secret key.) Generally that's what the different levels of how you checked the uids mean. If you have seen the ID card, use level 2, if you've checked the mail address, use level 3. Where some years of correspondence replace pinging the account, at least for me. :-) Simon -- GPG Fingerprint: 040E B5F7 84F1 4FBC CEAD ADC6 18A0 CC8D 5706 A4B4 msg08050/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
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Looking for tester/sponsor for koch-suite and magnetic
Hi there, I have packaged Package name: koch-suite Version : 0.7.1 Upstream Author : Michael Lestinsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> URL : http://koch-suite.berlios.de/ Licence : BSD Description : A PHP based recipe management system The Koch-Suite is a PHP-based recipe management system for Unix-like OS. It uses MySQL or PostgreSQL as database-backend. and Package name: magnetic Version : 2.1 Upstream Author : Niclas Karlsson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> David Kinder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Stefan Meier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Paul D. Doherty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Torbjörn Andersson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> URL : http://www.if-legends.org/~msmemorial/magnetic.htm Licence : GPL Description: An interpreter for Magnetic Scrolls adventures Magnetic is an interpreter for the games written between 1985 and 1991 by Magnetic Scrolls, a text adventure producer based in London, England. Although they only produced seven games they have acquired legendary status for text adventures of as good quality as Infocom accompanied by exceptional graphics. The packages can be downloaded from http://www.fgan.de/~bus/Debian/src/magnetic/ and http://www.fgan.de/~bus/Debian/src/koch-suite/ (or via apt: http://www.fgan.de/~bus/Debian testing main) As these are my first packages I'd be thankful for any suggestions and critics. Best regards, MB -- Michael Bussmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> When the men on the chessboard get up and tell you where to go, And you've just had some kind of mushroom and your mind is moving low. Go ask Alice; I think she'll know. -- Jefferson Airplane, "White Rabbit"
RFS: gkrellmitime - Internet time plugin for gkrellm
Hi all. I'm looking for a sponsor to upload to Debian's repository gkrellmitime package. This is a new package containing an Internet plugin for gkrellm (I posted an ITP bug few months ago). The files can be obtained at: http://www.superiodico.net/debian/upload/ Thank you very much for your help. Thanks and regards. -- Juan Manuel García Molina [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: signing a GPG key with multiple uids
Osamu Aoki wrote: > On Wed, Dec 04, 2002 at 03:05:57AM +0100, Rene Engelhard wrote: > > > which have that address in it. > > > > I sign a uid when these uid's address is not bouncing and the person who > > claims to belong to this key answers a message encrypted to him sent > > to the specific uid. If the person answers to all the mails sent to > > him, I can sign all uid's. > > This sounds like good practice but burden of proof for the "activeness" > of e-mail account is on signer side. A bit unfiar, IMHO. this is as it should be. a signer needs to take Due Diligence when saying ``Yes. I know that this key matches this Name and EMail address.'' failure to do that renders that signature, and potentially all other signatures made by that signer. the whole Web-of-Trust thing. some people do take more care than others when signing, and that is okay. but the onus is always on the signer to verify that the facts as she understands them are true. -john
Best practices of GPG signing
I am wondering what is the best practice for me to gather and exchange GPG signature. (I now have 2 e-mail accounts associated to my GPG key. One e-mail address before I joined Debian and one with @debian.org.) 1) Should I gather signature for all active e-mail addresses? (Is signature only for [EMAIL PROTECTED] enough? Is the act of asking signer to sign alternative address considered useless request? Or is it worthy cause?) 2) Should I print these alternative e-mail addresses on my Debian business card for the convenience of signer. (I never see that in my experience but people tends to have multiple uids.) 3) Is it a good practice to ask people who signed only old uid to sign new uid? (I do this with GPG signed mail.) 4) If someone who used only his ex-work address in GPG key, is it OK to sign his new uid by exchanging mail through different mail address but with properly signed mails? 5) How important is the uid field? After all e-mail address can easily be spoofed. (For me, it looks totally secondary. Important thing is possession of the secret key.) -- ~\^o^/~~~ ~\^.^/~~~ ~\^*^/~~~ ~\^_^/~~~ ~\^+^/~~~ ~\^:^/~~~ ~\^v^/~~~ + Osamu Aoki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cupertino CA USA, GPG-key: A8061F32 .''`. Debian Reference: post-installation user's guide for non-developers : :' : http://qref.sf.net and http://people.debian.org/~osamu `. `' "Our Priorities are Our Users and Free Software" --- Social Contract
Re: signing a GPG key with multiple uids
Hi, On Wed, Dec 04, 2002 at 10:04:21AM -0800, John H. Robinson, IV wrote: > Osamu Aoki wrote: > > On Wed, Dec 04, 2002 at 03:05:57AM +0100, Rene Engelhard wrote: > > > > which have that address in it. > > > > > > I sign a uid when these uid's address is not bouncing and the person who > > > claims to belong to this key answers a message encrypted to him sent > > > to the specific uid. If the person answers to all the mails sent to > > > him, I can sign all uid's. > > > > This sounds like good practice but burden of proof for the "activeness" > > of e-mail account is on signer side. A bit unfiar, IMHO. > > this is as it should be. a signer needs to take Due Diligence when > saying ``Yes. I know that this key matches this Name and EMail address.'' > failure to do that renders that signature, and potentially all other > signatures made by that signer. the whole Web-of-Trust thing. > > some people do take more care than others when signing, and that is > okay. but the onus is always on the signer to verify that the facts as > she understands them are true. Sure I agree in your point of due dilligence. (I said "a bit".) I do not want to make life any harder for the people signing my GPG key either. I think question was not well formed and discussion is drifting away. I started different thread to address my real question. Thanks. Osamu -- ~\^o^/~~~ ~\^.^/~~~ ~\^*^/~~~ ~\^_^/~~~ ~\^+^/~~~ ~\^:^/~~~ ~\^v^/~~~ + Osamu Aoki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cupertino CA USA, GPG-key: A8061F32 .''`. Debian Reference: post-installation user's guide for non-developers : :' : http://qref.sf.net and http://people.debian.org/~osamu `. `' "Our Priorities are Our Users and Free Software" --- Social Contract
Re: signing a GPG key with multiple uids
On Wed, Dec 04, 2002 at 11:09:09AM -0800, Osamu Aoki wrote: > I do not want to make life any harder for the people signing my GPG key > either. It's a reasonable thing to check whether an email-address is valid before signing it IMHO. Michael -- we should propose to rename the FSG to DFSG as our first action
Re: signing a GPG key with multiple uids
On Wed, Dec 04, 2002 at 08:12:37PM +0100, Michael Banck wrote: > On Wed, Dec 04, 2002 at 11:09:09AM -0800, Osamu Aoki wrote: > > I do not want to make life any harder for the people signing my GPG key > > either. > > It's a reasonable thing to check whether an email-address is valid > before signing it IMHO. You guys are misunderstanding situation. I have no intention to circumvent GPG security. I have 2 valid e-mail addresses and I want both to be signed. I just did not wanted signer to skip checking alternative address. As far as "due diligence" is conceded, skipping "unsure" address was OK. But that is something I wanted to avoid. Thanks. Osamu -- ~\^o^/~~~ ~\^.^/~~~ ~\^*^/~~~ ~\^_^/~~~ ~\^+^/~~~ ~\^:^/~~~ ~\^v^/~~~ + Osamu Aoki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cupertino CA USA, GPG-key: A8061F32 .''`. Debian Reference: post-installation user's guide for non-developers : :' : http://qref.sf.net and http://people.debian.org/~osamu `. `' "Our Priorities are Our Users and Free Software" --- Social Contract
Re: Best practices of GPG signing
Hi, On Wed, Dec 04, 2002 at 10:59:06AM -0800, Osamu Aoki wrote: > 1) Should I gather signature for all active e-mail addresses? >(Is signature only for [EMAIL PROTECTED] enough? Is the act of asking >signer to sign alternative address considered useless request? Or is >it worthy cause?) Of course more signatures are better, as the web of trust is also useful outside of Debian. > 2) Should I print these alternative e-mail addresses on my Debian >business card for the convenience of signer. (I never see that in my >experience but people tends to have multiple uids.) Well, I have separate cards with all my uids and subkeys on them, which I use for signing purposes. Business cards are something different, I have different cards for different "personalities" of mine -- i.e. one with my private address, one for Debian, one for the uni, one for work, ... But I think this is sort of the German mentality to keep everything apart. > 3) Is it a good practice to ask people who signed only old uid to sign >new uid? (I do this with GPG signed mail.) I'd say it depends. It makes sense if you're going to make heavy use of the new uid, so people can easily validate it. > 4) If someone who used only his ex-work address in GPG key, is it OK to >sign his new uid by exchanging mail through different mail address >but with properly signed mails? I think yes, because that should still be the same person, and if the key was stolen and someone is trying to get mails diverted, there should be a revocation around soon. > 5) How important is the uid field? After all e-mail address can easily >be spoofed. (For me, it looks totally secondary. Important thing is >possession of the secret key.) Generally that's what the different levels of how you checked the uids mean. If you have seen the ID card, use level 2, if you've checked the mail address, use level 3. Where some years of correspondence replace pinging the account, at least for me. :-) Simon -- GPG Fingerprint: 040E B5F7 84F1 4FBC CEAD ADC6 18A0 CC8D 5706 A4B4 pgp3uy0R9nO3a.pgp Description: PGP signature
