Re: Sponsor for popfile

2003-07-29 Thread Aníbal Monsalve Salazar
On Tue, Jul 29, 2003 at 15:57 -0300, Lucas Wall wrote:
> Hi!
> 
> I'm looking for a sponsor. I have the following package ready for
> examination:
> 
> POPFile is an email classification tool with a Naive Bayes classifier,
> a POP3 proxy and a web interface.  It runs on most platforms and with
> most email clients.
> 
> package: http://www.kadath.com.ar/popfile/
> upstream: http://popfile.sourceforge.net
> 
>   Thanks!
> 
>   K.

Hello Lucas,

After a quick check, I've found the following problems with your
package:

· The package is not lintian clean yet.

· In debian/changelog, there is no 'closes #203349' to close ITP bug
  #203349.

· In debian/control, the short description shouldn't start with 'An'
  and end with '.', see [1].

[1] 
http://www.debian.org/doc/developers-reference/ch-best-pkging-practices..en.html#s-bpp-pkg-synopsis

Regards,

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Re: ITA wmakerconf, wmakerconf-data (will need a sponsor)

2003-07-29 Thread John H. Robinson, IV
Kevin B. McCarty wrote:
> 
> I am adopting wmakerconf and wmakerconf-data packages -- I've already 
> debianized the newest upstream versions (2.9 and 0.80.0 respectively) and 
> fixed a few outstanding bugs.  Being a non-maintainer, I'll need a sponsor 
> -- would anyone like to volunteer?

i have agreed to sponsor these packages.

-john



Re: tagging bugs "woody"?

2003-07-29 Thread Bob Proulx
Andreas Metzler wrote:
> Frank Kuster wrote:
> >users working with Debian woody often do not look at archived bugs when
> >reporting bugs on a package. Therefore it is likely that bugs that have
> >long been fixed in unstable, but will never be in woody will be reported
> >multiple times again.

I have been a victim of this problem myself.

> Imvvvho this a matter of personal taste, and the manual (the part I 
> snipped) can be taken as guideline instead of as bible. Personaly I'd 
> keep only these bugs open which _really_ get reported at least twice, 
> otherwise the BTS is to messy for me to work with.

I believe there are many people that look for bugs, won't find them,
but won't report them either.  Even if people do not report a bug it
benefits from from being able to see the bug in the BTS.  In this way
the BTS acts as a knowledge database.  Therefore I would like to see
bugs in stable kept open until the next stable fixes them.  I realize
there are technical issues to be resolved in the BTS in this area.

Bob


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Re: Control fields for libraries and programs depending on them

2003-07-29 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Tue, Jul 29, 2003 at 08:06:38PM -0400, Neil Roeth wrote:

> Suppose there is a package foobar that depends on a library libfoo.  AIUI,
> whenever the SONAME changes, the library name should change, so I expect
> this to evolve as libfoo1, libfoo2, etc.  What are the proper control
> fields (Depends, Conflicts, Replaces, Provides) for these packages?  If I
> understand correctly, the idea of having different package names for
> libfoo when the SONAME changes is so that libfoo1 and libfoo2 can coexist.
> So, does that mean they should not conflict, and that there should be no
> Replaces or Provides fields in the libfoo2 refering to libfoo1?

Yes.  You can find many examples in the packages in the archive.

> I am particularly interested in the case where foobar and libfoo1 are
> installed, and a new version of foobar is released that depends upon
> libfoo2.  Should upgrading foobar cause libfoo2 to be installed, but also
> leave libfoo1 installed, since some other package might depend upon it?

Upgrading foobar will require that libfoo2 be installed; it should not have
any direct effect on libfoo1 (though aptitude, for example, will
automatically remove libfoo1 if it only existed to satisfy foobar's
dependency).

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Re: ITA wmakerconf, wmakerconf-data (will need a sponsor)

2003-07-29 Thread John H. Robinson, IV
Kevin B. McCarty wrote:
> 
> I am adopting wmakerconf and wmakerconf-data packages -- I've already 
> debianized the newest upstream versions (2.9 and 0.80.0 respectively) and 
> fixed a few outstanding bugs.  Being a non-maintainer, I'll need a sponsor 
> -- would anyone like to volunteer?

i have agreed to sponsor these packages.

-john


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Re: tagging bugs "woody"?

2003-07-29 Thread Bob Proulx
Andreas Metzler wrote:
> Frank Kuster wrote:
> >users working with Debian woody often do not look at archived bugs when
> >reporting bugs on a package. Therefore it is likely that bugs that have
> >long been fixed in unstable, but will never be in woody will be reported
> >multiple times again.

I have been a victim of this problem myself.

> Imvvvho this a matter of personal taste, and the manual (the part I 
> snipped) can be taken as guideline instead of as bible. Personaly I'd 
> keep only these bugs open which _really_ get reported at least twice, 
> otherwise the BTS is to messy for me to work with.

I believe there are many people that look for bugs, won't find them,
but won't report them either.  Even if people do not report a bug it
benefits from from being able to see the bug in the BTS.  In this way
the BTS acts as a knowledge database.  Therefore I would like to see
bugs in stable kept open until the next stable fixes them.  I realize
there are technical issues to be resolved in the BTS in this area.

Bob


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Control fields for libraries and programs depending on them

2003-07-29 Thread Neil Roeth
Suppose there is a package foobar that depends on a library libfoo.  AIUI,
whenever the SONAME changes, the library name should change, so I expect this
to evolve as libfoo1, libfoo2, etc.  What are the proper control fields
(Depends, Conflicts, Replaces, Provides) for these packages?  If I understand
correctly, the idea of having different package names for libfoo when the
SONAME changes is so that libfoo1 and libfoo2 can coexist.  So, does that mean
they should not conflict, and that there should be no Replaces or Provides
fields in the libfoo2 refering to libfoo1?  I am particularly interested in
the case where foobar and libfoo1 are installed, and a new version of foobar
is released that depends upon libfoo2.  Should upgrading foobar cause libfoo2
to be installed, but also leave libfoo1 installed, since some other package
might depend upon it?

-- 
Neil Roeth



Re: Control fields for libraries and programs depending on them

2003-07-29 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Tue, Jul 29, 2003 at 08:06:38PM -0400, Neil Roeth wrote:

> Suppose there is a package foobar that depends on a library libfoo.  AIUI,
> whenever the SONAME changes, the library name should change, so I expect
> this to evolve as libfoo1, libfoo2, etc.  What are the proper control
> fields (Depends, Conflicts, Replaces, Provides) for these packages?  If I
> understand correctly, the idea of having different package names for
> libfoo when the SONAME changes is so that libfoo1 and libfoo2 can coexist.
> So, does that mean they should not conflict, and that there should be no
> Replaces or Provides fields in the libfoo2 refering to libfoo1?

Yes.  You can find many examples in the packages in the archive.

> I am particularly interested in the case where foobar and libfoo1 are
> installed, and a new version of foobar is released that depends upon
> libfoo2.  Should upgrading foobar cause libfoo2 to be installed, but also
> leave libfoo1 installed, since some other package might depend upon it?

Upgrading foobar will require that libfoo2 be installed; it should not have
any direct effect on libfoo1 (though aptitude, for example, will
automatically remove libfoo1 if it only existed to satisfy foobar's
dependency).

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Control fields for libraries and programs depending on them

2003-07-29 Thread Neil Roeth
Suppose there is a package foobar that depends on a library libfoo.  AIUI,
whenever the SONAME changes, the library name should change, so I expect this
to evolve as libfoo1, libfoo2, etc.  What are the proper control fields
(Depends, Conflicts, Replaces, Provides) for these packages?  If I understand
correctly, the idea of having different package names for libfoo when the
SONAME changes is so that libfoo1 and libfoo2 can coexist.  So, does that mean
they should not conflict, and that there should be no Replaces or Provides
fields in the libfoo2 refering to libfoo1?  I am particularly interested in
the case where foobar and libfoo1 are installed, and a new version of foobar
is released that depends upon libfoo2.  Should upgrading foobar cause libfoo2
to be installed, but also leave libfoo1 installed, since some other package
might depend upon it?

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Sponsor for popfile

2003-07-29 Thread Lucas Wall
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Hi!

I'm looking for a sponsor. I have the following package ready for 
examination:

POPFile is an email classification tool with a Naive Bayes classifier, a POP3 
proxy and a web interface.  It runs on most platforms and with most email 
clients.

package: http://www.kadath.com.ar/popfile/
upstream: http://popfile.sourceforge.net

Thanks!

K.
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Re: tagging bugs "woody"?

2003-07-29 Thread Andreas Metzler

On 29.07.03 15:20 Frank Küster wrote:

users working with Debian woody often do not look at archived bugs when
reporting bugs on a package. Therefore it is likely that bugs that have
long been fixed in unstable, but will never be in woody will be reported
multiple times again.

Therefore on debian-tetex-maint@lists.debian.org it was suggested to
keep such bugs open. The "fixed" tag is appropriate for this, I
assume. However, for people using unstable it would be nice to point out
that the bug doesn't apply to them (and if they find similar behavior,
it's a new bug).

But is tagging it "woody" conformant with Debian practice? In 


http://www.de.debian.org/Bugs/Developer

[...]

Imvvvho this a matter of personal taste, and the manual (the part I 
snipped) can be taken as guideline instead of as bible. Personaly I'd 
keep only these bugs open which _really_ get reported at least twice, 
otherwise the BTS is to messy for me to work with.


Tagging them as "fixed,woody" sounds wrong to me, they'll be listed as 
"closed in NMU" and will probably be rereported again.

  cu andreas




Sponsor for popfile

2003-07-29 Thread Lucas Wall
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Hi!

I'm looking for a sponsor. I have the following package ready for examination:

POPFile is an email classification tool with a Naive Bayes classifier, a POP3 proxy 
and a web interface.  It runs on most platforms and with most email clients.

package: http://www.kadath.com.ar/popfile/
upstream: http://popfile.sourceforge.net

Thanks!

K.
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Re: RFS: vimoutliner

2003-07-29 Thread Matej Cepl
On 2003-07-29, 01:35 GMT, Colin Watson wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 28, 2003 at 11:20:29PM +0200, Matej Cepl wrote:
>> I have created a package for vimoutliner. Is there anybody who would
>> like to sponsor me?
> [...]
>> All relevant files are on
>> ftp://ftp.ceplovi.cz/data/www/ceplovi/matej/progs/debian/
> 
> I'd be happy to, but:
> 
>   $ lftp ftp://ftp.ceplovi.cz/data/www/ceplovi/matej/progs/debian/
>   cd: Access failed: 550 /data/www/ceplovi/matej/progs/debian: No such file 
> or directory

Somebody else stepped up to the plate and uploaded for me. Thanks
anyway.

Matej

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Re: tagging bugs "woody"?

2003-07-29 Thread Andreas Metzler
On 29.07.03 15:20 Frank Küster wrote:
users working with Debian woody often do not look at archived bugs when
reporting bugs on a package. Therefore it is likely that bugs that have
long been fixed in unstable, but will never be in woody will be reported
multiple times again.
Therefore on [EMAIL PROTECTED] it was suggested to
keep such bugs open. The "fixed" tag is appropriate for this, I
assume. However, for people using unstable it would be nice to point out
that the bug doesn't apply to them (and if they find similar behavior,
it's a new bug).
But is tagging it "woody" conformant with Debian practice? In 

http://www.de.debian.org/Bugs/Developer
[...]

Imvvvho this a matter of personal taste, and the manual (the part I 
snipped) can be taken as guideline instead of as bible. Personaly I'd 
keep only these bugs open which _really_ get reported at least twice, 
otherwise the BTS is to messy for me to work with.

Tagging them as "fixed,woody" sounds wrong to me, they'll be listed as 
"closed in NMU" and will probably be rereported again.
  cu andreas



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Re: RFS: vimoutliner

2003-07-29 Thread Matej Cepl
On 2003-07-29, 01:35 GMT, Colin Watson wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 28, 2003 at 11:20:29PM +0200, Matej Cepl wrote:
>> I have created a package for vimoutliner. Is there anybody who would
>> like to sponsor me?
> [...]
>> All relevant files are on
>> ftp://ftp.ceplovi.cz/data/www/ceplovi/matej/progs/debian/
> 
> I'd be happy to, but:
> 
>   $ lftp ftp://ftp.ceplovi.cz/data/www/ceplovi/matej/progs/debian/
>   cd: Access failed: 550 /data/www/ceplovi/matej/progs/debian: No such file or 
> directory

Somebody else stepped up to the plate and uploaded for me. Thanks
anyway.

Matej

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tagging bugs "woody"?

2003-07-29 Thread Frank Küster
Hi,

users working with Debian woody often do not look at archived bugs when
reporting bugs on a package. Therefore it is likely that bugs that have
long been fixed in unstable, but will never be in woody will be reported
multiple times again.

Therefore on debian-tetex-maint@lists.debian.org it was suggested to
keep such bugs open. The "fixed" tag is appropriate for this, I
assume. However, for people using unstable it would be nice to point out
that the bug doesn't apply to them (and if they find similar behavior,
it's a new bug).

But is tagging it "woody" conformant with Debian practice? In 

http://www.de.debian.org/Bugs/Developer

it says regarding the tags with distribution names:

,
| The latter five tags are intended to be used mainly for release
| critical bugs, for which it's important to know which distributions
| are affected to make sure fixes (or removals) happen in the right
| place.
`

Would it still be in order to use the tag woody, now that woody has long
been released?

TIA, Frank
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Abt. Biophysikalische Chemie



Re: ITA: yadex -- WAD file editor for doom-style WADs

2003-07-29 Thread Frederic Wagner
On Mon, Jul 28, 2003 at 08:28:32AM +, Thomas Viehmann wrote:

hi,

> Try "lintian -i". You've probably left "Author(s):" in there. As it is 
> decidable
> whether there's one or many copyright holders, you should either erase the 
> "(s)" or
> just remove parantheses, depending on what follows.

fixed,

so what's the next step ? can someone take a look at my package ?

Thanks

Fred
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tagging bugs "woody"?

2003-07-29 Thread Frank Küster
Hi,

users working with Debian woody often do not look at archived bugs when
reporting bugs on a package. Therefore it is likely that bugs that have
long been fixed in unstable, but will never be in woody will be reported
multiple times again.

Therefore on [EMAIL PROTECTED] it was suggested to
keep such bugs open. The "fixed" tag is appropriate for this, I
assume. However, for people using unstable it would be nice to point out
that the bug doesn't apply to them (and if they find similar behavior,
it's a new bug).

But is tagging it "woody" conformant with Debian practice? In 

http://www.de.debian.org/Bugs/Developer

it says regarding the tags with distribution names:

,
| The latter five tags are intended to be used mainly for release
| critical bugs, for which it's important to know which distributions
| are affected to make sure fixes (or removals) happen in the right
| place.
`

Would it still be in order to use the tag woody, now that woody has long
been released?

TIA, Frank
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Re: ITA: yadex -- WAD file editor for doom-style WADs

2003-07-29 Thread Frederic Wagner
On Mon, Jul 28, 2003 at 08:28:32AM +, Thomas Viehmann wrote:

hi,

> Try "lintian -i". You've probably left "Author(s):" in there. As it is decidable
> whether there's one or many copyright holders, you should either erase the "(s)" or
> just remove parantheses, depending on what follows.

fixed,

so what's the next step ? can someone take a look at my package ?

Thanks

Fred
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Re: Sponsor vs. Developer Process?

2003-07-29 Thread Martin Michlmayr
* Rene Engelhard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003-07-29 01:31]:
> > > You won't be approved with no package in the archive.
> > 
> > bullshit
> 
> It _is_ so.
> Definitely.

If you want to join Debian as a package maintainer, there is clearly
no good reason for not having a package in the archive.  Only that way
we can see how applicants respond to bug reports, etc.

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Re: RFS: pose - Palm OS Emulator (5th -and last- try)

2003-07-29 Thread Thomas Viehmann
Hi Matt.

Matthew Palmer ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
>In the case of software for Palmpilots and whatnot, unless a DD has
>compatible hardware, they can't test it.  (Incidentally, if someone really
>wants to get pose in, they can donate a Palm to me and I'll happily test and
>sponsor).

POSE is an emulator. You can happily test and sponsor without a palm. (You need
ROMs, though, but that shouldn't be too much of a problem.)

Cheers

T.



Re: Sponsor vs. Developer Process?

2003-07-29 Thread Martin Michlmayr
* Rene Engelhard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003-07-29 01:31]:
> > > You won't be approved with no package in the archive.
> > 
> > bullshit
> 
> It _is_ so.
> Definitely.

If you want to join Debian as a package maintainer, there is clearly
no good reason for not having a package in the archive.  Only that way
we can see how applicants respond to bug reports, etc.

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Re: lintian W: sharedobject-in-library-directory-not-actually-a-shlib

2003-07-29 Thread Marc Haber
On Sat, 26 Jul 2003 14:42:48 +0900, Junichi Uekawa
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Lintian, however, can't know that this particular library usually is
>> preloaded, not linked to. Hence the override.
>
>If its use is going to be something like that, please don't put it in 
>/usr/lib. That's what the lintian warning is about.

Where should it be put instead? Please notice that this can
potentially be preloaded early, hence it is currently in /lib.

Greetings
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Re: RFS: pose - Palm OS Emulator (5th -and last- try)

2003-07-29 Thread Thomas Viehmann
Hi Matt.

Matthew Palmer ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
>In the case of software for Palmpilots and whatnot, unless a DD has
>compatible hardware, they can't test it.  (Incidentally, if someone really
>wants to get pose in, they can donate a Palm to me and I'll happily test and
>sponsor).

POSE is an emulator. You can happily test and sponsor without a palm. (You need
ROMs, though, but that shouldn't be too much of a problem.)

Cheers

T.


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