cryptoloop-source, anyone taking over?

2004-02-12 Thread Juergen Strobel
Hi,

The PTS shows cryptoloop-source to be orphaned, with a note that
someone is intending to take over. The note is quite old now and
references a bugreport which gives no further clues.

At the moment, I am maintaining enterprise kernel packages which
depend on this package, and I have made modifications to it to support
2.4.24. To me, enterprise means storage management with EVMS, block
device encryption, and memory 1GB. My private archives are here:

deb http://juergen.strobel.info/debian-strobel/ unstable kernel
deb-src http://juergen.strobel.info/debian-strobel/ unstable kernel

Note that the cryptoloop package there is probably not very debian
compliant. It puts all the required changes in the kernel patch
part, as opposed to having kernel patch and an extra module package.
And I left the old module parts in the package so it has to be
disabled when making kernels with make-kpkg. I found out about
module-assistant  co after I made this.

If someone wants to sponsor me, I'd be willing to rework it.

I have been working at an ISP for the last 3 years, using RedHat,
Slackware, and migrating to Debian in the end. I can program or at
least read code in most major languages and a few exoctic ones. I have
submitted bug reports and feedback to Debian and other projects in the
past, and would like to become part of the official team. My further
interests are networking, apache, php, java, postgresql.
cryptoloop-source seems to be a safe starting point.

regards,
Jürgen

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problem with files in /etc/dir.d (continued)

2004-02-12 Thread Filippo Rusconi
Hello,

Thanks to the persons who have kindly answered my questions about the
/etc/dir.d/ problem.

At the beginning, the software did use the /usr/etc/dir.d
configuration directory, but then the packaging system would complain
that this is not a standard location. I used this location because
that is simpler, using the ${prefix}-based variables from the
autotools (that is : ${sysconfdir} will resolve to /usr/etc if
${prefix} is /usr).

So, if it is not correct to put the stuff in /usr/etc (can someone
help me decide if this is actually forbidden ?), I'll put the conf
files in a /usr/share/thepackage/dir.d directory. 

In fact, I seem to understand that /usr/etc is forbidden by the
standards. However, then, why do the autotools provide a ${sysconfdir}
variable that resolves to /usr/etc if ${prefix} is /usr ?.

Thanks so much for your help,

Cheers,

Filippo

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Re: cryptoloop-source, anyone taking over?

2004-02-12 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Thu, Feb 12, 2004 at 09:19:16AM +0100, Juergen Strobel wrote:
 The PTS shows cryptoloop-source to be orphaned, with a note that
 someone is intending to take over. The note is quite old now and
 references a bugreport which gives no further clues.

Have you attempted to contact Vincent Bernat and ask if he is still
intending to upload?

Assuming that you've made some effort to contact Vincent, and he hasn't
responded or has indicated that he is still in the process of packaging, I
suggest you take over the ITA, read
http://people.debian.org/~mpalmer/sponsorship.html, and if you're happy with
that, contact me privately to discuss sponsorship.

- Matt


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Neue gdal version

2004-02-12 Thread Silke Reimer

Hallo list, hallo Jochen,
(Jochen beeing my gdal sponsor)

a few days ago someone posted an error of my gdal-package [1] on its
related developer list [2]. The problem has been fixed upstream and
I want now repackage gdal to eliminate this bug in debian.

The problem is, that there is no official gdal release of version
1.2 so I decided in december to package a cvs snapshot (s. here [3]
for a full discussion of the reasons).

My question is now: should I fix the above mentioned bug based on
the already used snapshot from november or can I just release a new
package version named 1.2+cvs.20040212? This package would of course
not only fix the  bug but also include new features of gdal and fix
some other bugs.

I would prefer to do the second option but I am not sure whether
the tarball will be accepted then.

Greetings,

Silke


[1] http://packages.qa.debian.org/g/gdal.html
[2] http://remotesensing.org/pipermail/gdal-dev/2004-February/001913.html
[3] http://lists.debian.org/debian-mentors/2003/debian-mentors-200310/msg00247.html

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Re: Neue gdal version

2004-02-12 Thread Jochen Friedrich
Hi Silke,

 I would prefer to do the second option but I am not sure whether
 the tarball will be accepted then.

Then i would go for this option. As long as you believe the new snapshot
is more useful and has less bugs than the old one, there is no reason to
keep the old one.

--jochen


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Re: problem with files in /etc/dir.d

2004-02-12 Thread Francesco P. Lovergine
On Thu, Feb 12, 2004 at 12:13:21AM +0100, Filippo Rusconi wrote:
 Hello all,
 
 in the software that I'm trying (gosh, that's not trivial...) to
 package, some configuration files are due to go in /etc/polyxmass.d
 

Configuration files are configuration files, not else.
If you need to rewrite files at every installation and they are
not possibly hackable by the admin, that's the bad directory 
to place them. If the admin can change them for his needs,
then u cannot rewrite them by Policy. 

Other good candidate dirs for those files (in the first case):

/usr/share/polyxmass 
/usr/lib/polyxmass


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Re: problem with files in /etc/dir.d (continued)

2004-02-12 Thread Frank Kster
Filippo Rusconi [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb:

 Hello,

 Thanks to the persons who have kindly answered my questions about the
 /etc/dir.d/ problem.

 At the beginning, the software did use the /usr/etc/dir.d
 configuration directory, but then the packaging system would complain
 that this is not a standard location. I used this location because
 that is simpler, using the ${prefix}-based variables from the
 autotools (that is : ${sysconfdir} will resolve to /usr/etc if
 ${prefix} is /usr).

 So, if it is not correct to put the stuff in /usr/etc (can someone
 help me decide if this is actually forbidden ?), I'll put the conf
 files in a /usr/share/thepackage/dir.d directory. 

First check whether these files are configuration files:

,
| 10.7 Configuration files
| 10.7.1 Definitions
| 
| configuration file 
|A file that affects the operation of a program, or provides site-
|or host-specific information, or otherwise customizes the behavior of
|program. Typically, configuration files are intended to be modified
|by the system administrator (if needed or desired) to conform to local
|policy or to provide more useful site-specific behavior.
`

If it isn't, it should probably go to /usr/share. If it is a
configuration file, you have to put it somewhere under /etc and decide
whether it should be a conffile, too. If there is a reasonable default
that will make your program work und normal circumstances, and only has
to be modified occasionally, you should make it a conffile. If not, you
can use debconf or other means to create one, and then it may _not_ be a
conffile. This is usually achieved by not shipping it in /etc in the
package, but to generate it or modify a template and then copy the
resulting file to /etc in postinst.

One more remark: You used the term /etc/dir.d. There is no official
policy for this AFAIK, but usually directories like this are used in a
special way: A program called foo reads it's configuration file foo.conf
from either /etc/foo.conf or /etc/foo/foo.conf (if there are a lot of
configuration files for foo). But other packages that use foo need to
add configuration items to foo.conf. They cannot if foo.conf belongs to
the foo package (i.e. is a configuration file), and they cannot simply
add stuff if foo.conf was created by foo's postinst, because this will
be overriden upon upgrade of foo. So the solution is to

- create a directory /etc/foo.d (or /etc/foo.conf.d or
  /etc/foo/foo.conf.d) 

- foo itself, as well as other packages using foo place a confile in
  this directory

- There is some mechanism by which foo then can get the information
  stored in the conffiles in /etc/foo.d. Either it reads it directly,
  like pam does, or there's a script called update-foo.conf or the like
  that is called in the postinst scripts of foo and depending
  packages. It creates /etc/foo.conf from the information taken from the
  files in /etc/foo.d/.

  
I would suggest to _not_ use the name foo.d for a directory under /etc
that does _not_ use this principle.

Regards, Frank
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Abt. Biophysikalische Chemie


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Re: Help with my program

2004-02-12 Thread Colin Watson
On Wed, Feb 11, 2004 at 09:01:57PM +0100, Nico Golde wrote:
 Hallo Frank,
 * Frank Küster [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004-02-11 20:07]:
   every program must have a man page?
  
  Policy, 12.1:
  
  ,
  | Each program, utility, and function should have an associated manual
  | page included in the same package. It is suggested that all
  | configuration files also have a manual page included as well. Manual
  | pages for protocols and other auxiliary things are optional.
  `
  
  Why are you surprised? If it's because you prefer info, you can just
  provide a minimal manpage and refer to the info documentation in it.
 
 I am surprised because i saw programs with an automatic created debian
 manpage or without a manpage.

It's a bug not to have a man page. Sadly, we have bugs ...

-- 
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Re: adopting xcruiser

2004-02-12 Thread Ville Palo
Sorry,

http://www.fast.sh/~vi64pa/

Ville Palo wrote:
Hi

I fixed one little bug (213654) and some lintian reported errors.

New debian package can be downloaded from http://www.fast.sh/~vi64pa/debian

I need sponsor for checking this packet and possibly
uploading it.
ville






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Re: adopting xcruiser

2004-02-12 Thread Thomas Viehmann
Hi.

Ville Palo ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
I fixed one little bug (213654) and some lintian reported errors.
Just a few thoughts
- The package presently in Debian is xcruise, not xcruiser.
- Declare your intend to adopt the package by appropriatly changing
  the orphaning bug. Debian has policy on this and potential sponsors
  most likely prefer sponsoring people following them.
- Maybe get the bug reporter of the other important bug to test your package.
  If it's the same problem as 213654, you can ask can I find a sponsor for
  adopting xcruise, my package fixes all bugs with severity =important.

Cheers

T.


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Re: adopting xcruiser

2004-02-12 Thread Ville Palo
Ok, now there is a .tar.gz.

It should contain all the necessary files.

Thomas Viehmann wrote:
Hi.

Ville Palo wrote:

http://www.fast.sh/~vi64pa/
The directory you pointed to does not contain the files necessary to
review your package.
Kind regards

Thomas



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Re: adopting xcruiser

2004-02-12 Thread Thomas Viehmann
Ville Palo wrote:
 Ok, now there is a .tar.gz.
 It should contain all the necessary files.
The canonical way to do this (and thus probably the best way to get your
package looked at is to have *.orig.tar.gz, *.diff.gz, *.dsc and
possibly *.changes and *.deb in a directory.
Note also that you also need to include a about yourself adopting the
package (closing the orphaning bug) after you have declared yourself
maintainer in the debian/control.

Cheers

T.

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Re: adopting xcruiser

2004-02-12 Thread Ville Palo
Ok, I just uploaded
*.orig.tar.gz
*.diff.gz
*.dsc
*.changes
*.deb
I haven't decclared my self maintainer yet,
Before I do that, i want to be sure the package is ok.
And thanks for helping me with this.

Thomas Viehmann wrote:
Ville Palo wrote:

Ok, now there is a .tar.gz.
It should contain all the necessary files.
The canonical way to do this (and thus probably the best way to get your
package looked at is to have *.orig.tar.gz, *.diff.gz, *.dsc and
possibly *.changes and *.deb in a directory.
Note also that you also need to include a about yourself adopting the
package (closing the orphaning bug) after you have declared yourself
maintainer in the debian/control.
Cheers

T.



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Re: problem with files in /etc/dir.d

2004-02-12 Thread Andreas Metzler
On 2004-02-12 Filippo Rusconi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[...]
 I effectively get the said file in 

 debian/polyxmassdata/etc/polyxmass.d/polyxmassdata.conf

 telling me that the make install target has worked ok.

 However, I also noticed that this file is referenced here:

 debian/polyxmassdata/DEBIAN/conffiles

Debhelper in =v3 mode will automaticaly flag all files in /etc as
conffiles.

 although I never had a conffiles for this package, because the
 polyxmassdata.conf SHOULD be overwritten upon a new install.

Then it is misplaced in /etc (which is a release-critical bug) and
should go to /usr/share/.

 The result of all this is that the polyxmassdata.conf seems to be
 included in the deb file (as seen using dpkg -X file.deb /tmp), but
 does not get installed (presumably because, indeed, the debian
 packaging system does think it is a conffile).

dpkg-conffile handling preserves file-removal.

 So my question ? How can I have a configuration file installed
 somewhere in /etc without having the debian packaging system think it
 is a conffile ?
[...]

Please read policy 10.7 and check whether this indeed is a
configuration file as specified by policy (Typically, configuration
files are intended to be modified by the system administrator) which
requires you to fulfill 10.7.3, local changes must be preserved.
 cu andreas
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Re: Help with my program

2004-02-12 Thread Joe Nahmias
Nico Golde wrote:
 I am surprised because i saw programs with an automatic created debian
 manpage or without a manpage.

If you find a program in Debian without a manpage, please file a bug
(severity normal) against the package that provides it.

--Joe



cryptoloop-source, anyone taking over?

2004-02-12 Thread Juergen Strobel
Hi,

The PTS shows cryptoloop-source to be orphaned, with a note that
someone is intending to take over. The note is quite old now and
references a bugreport which gives no further clues.

At the moment, I am maintaining enterprise kernel packages which
depend on this package, and I have made modifications to it to support
2.4.24. To me, enterprise means storage management with EVMS, block
device encryption, and memory 1GB. My private archives are here:

deb http://juergen.strobel.info/debian-strobel/ unstable kernel
deb-src http://juergen.strobel.info/debian-strobel/ unstable kernel

Note that the cryptoloop package there is probably not very debian
compliant. It puts all the required changes in the kernel patch
part, as opposed to having kernel patch and an extra module package.
And I left the old module parts in the package so it has to be
disabled when making kernels with make-kpkg. I found out about
module-assistant  co after I made this.

If someone wants to sponsor me, I'd be willing to rework it.

I have been working at an ISP for the last 3 years, using RedHat,
Slackware, and migrating to Debian in the end. I can program or at
least read code in most major languages and a few exoctic ones. I have
submitted bug reports and feedback to Debian and other projects in the
past, and would like to become part of the official team. My further
interests are networking, apache, php, java, postgresql.
cryptoloop-source seems to be a safe starting point.

regards,
Jürgen

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problem with files in /etc/dir.d (continued)

2004-02-12 Thread Filippo Rusconi
Hello,

Thanks to the persons who have kindly answered my questions about the
/etc/dir.d/ problem.

At the beginning, the software did use the /usr/etc/dir.d
configuration directory, but then the packaging system would complain
that this is not a standard location. I used this location because
that is simpler, using the ${prefix}-based variables from the
autotools (that is : ${sysconfdir} will resolve to /usr/etc if
${prefix} is /usr).

So, if it is not correct to put the stuff in /usr/etc (can someone
help me decide if this is actually forbidden ?), I'll put the conf
files in a /usr/share/thepackage/dir.d directory. 

In fact, I seem to understand that /usr/etc is forbidden by the
standards. However, then, why do the autotools provide a ${sysconfdir}
variable that resolves to /usr/etc if ${prefix} is /usr ?.

Thanks so much for your help,

Cheers,

Filippo

-- 
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Re: cryptoloop-source, anyone taking over?

2004-02-12 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Thu, Feb 12, 2004 at 09:19:16AM +0100, Juergen Strobel wrote:
 The PTS shows cryptoloop-source to be orphaned, with a note that
 someone is intending to take over. The note is quite old now and
 references a bugreport which gives no further clues.

Have you attempted to contact Vincent Bernat and ask if he is still
intending to upload?

Assuming that you've made some effort to contact Vincent, and he hasn't
responded or has indicated that he is still in the process of packaging, I
suggest you take over the ITA, read
http://people.debian.org/~mpalmer/sponsorship.html, and if you're happy with
that, contact me privately to discuss sponsorship.

- Matt



Neue gdal version

2004-02-12 Thread Silke Reimer

Hallo list, hallo Jochen,
(Jochen beeing my gdal sponsor)

a few days ago someone posted an error of my gdal-package [1] on its
related developer list [2]. The problem has been fixed upstream and
I want now repackage gdal to eliminate this bug in debian.

The problem is, that there is no official gdal release of version
1.2 so I decided in december to package a cvs snapshot (s. here [3]
for a full discussion of the reasons).

My question is now: should I fix the above mentioned bug based on
the already used snapshot from november or can I just release a new
package version named 1.2+cvs.20040212? This package would of course
not only fix the  bug but also include new features of gdal and fix
some other bugs.

I would prefer to do the second option but I am not sure whether
the tarball will be accepted then.

Greetings,

Silke


[1] http://packages.qa.debian.org/g/gdal.html
[2] http://remotesensing.org/pipermail/gdal-dev/2004-February/001913.html
[3] 
http://lists.debian.org/debian-mentors/2003/debian-mentors-200310/msg00247.html

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Re: Neue gdal version

2004-02-12 Thread Jochen Friedrich
Hi Silke,

 I would prefer to do the second option but I am not sure whether
 the tarball will be accepted then.

Then i would go for this option. As long as you believe the new snapshot
is more useful and has less bugs than the old one, there is no reason to
keep the old one.

--jochen



Re: problem with files in /etc/dir.d

2004-02-12 Thread Francesco P. Lovergine
On Thu, Feb 12, 2004 at 12:13:21AM +0100, Filippo Rusconi wrote:
 Hello all,
 
 in the software that I'm trying (gosh, that's not trivial...) to
 package, some configuration files are due to go in /etc/polyxmass.d
 

Configuration files are configuration files, not else.
If you need to rewrite files at every installation and they are
not possibly hackable by the admin, that's the bad directory 
to place them. If the admin can change them for his needs,
then u cannot rewrite them by Policy. 

Other good candidate dirs for those files (in the first case):

/usr/share/polyxmass 
/usr/lib/polyxmass


-- 
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Re: problem with files in /etc/dir.d (continued)

2004-02-12 Thread Frank Küster
Filippo Rusconi [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb:

 Hello,

 Thanks to the persons who have kindly answered my questions about the
 /etc/dir.d/ problem.

 At the beginning, the software did use the /usr/etc/dir.d
 configuration directory, but then the packaging system would complain
 that this is not a standard location. I used this location because
 that is simpler, using the ${prefix}-based variables from the
 autotools (that is : ${sysconfdir} will resolve to /usr/etc if
 ${prefix} is /usr).

 So, if it is not correct to put the stuff in /usr/etc (can someone
 help me decide if this is actually forbidden ?), I'll put the conf
 files in a /usr/share/thepackage/dir.d directory. 

First check whether these files are configuration files:

,
| 10.7 Configuration files
| 10.7.1 Definitions
| 
| configuration file 
|A file that affects the operation of a program, or provides site-
|or host-specific information, or otherwise customizes the behavior of
|program. Typically, configuration files are intended to be modified
|by the system administrator (if needed or desired) to conform to local
|policy or to provide more useful site-specific behavior.
`

If it isn't, it should probably go to /usr/share. If it is a
configuration file, you have to put it somewhere under /etc and decide
whether it should be a conffile, too. If there is a reasonable default
that will make your program work und normal circumstances, and only has
to be modified occasionally, you should make it a conffile. If not, you
can use debconf or other means to create one, and then it may _not_ be a
conffile. This is usually achieved by not shipping it in /etc in the
package, but to generate it or modify a template and then copy the
resulting file to /etc in postinst.

One more remark: You used the term /etc/dir.d. There is no official
policy for this AFAIK, but usually directories like this are used in a
special way: A program called foo reads it's configuration file foo.conf
from either /etc/foo.conf or /etc/foo/foo.conf (if there are a lot of
configuration files for foo). But other packages that use foo need to
add configuration items to foo.conf. They cannot if foo.conf belongs to
the foo package (i.e. is a configuration file), and they cannot simply
add stuff if foo.conf was created by foo's postinst, because this will
be overriden upon upgrade of foo. So the solution is to

- create a directory /etc/foo.d (or /etc/foo.conf.d or
  /etc/foo/foo.conf.d) 

- foo itself, as well as other packages using foo place a confile in
  this directory

- There is some mechanism by which foo then can get the information
  stored in the conffiles in /etc/foo.d. Either it reads it directly,
  like pam does, or there's a script called update-foo.conf or the like
  that is called in the postinst scripts of foo and depending
  packages. It creates /etc/foo.conf from the information taken from the
  files in /etc/foo.d/.

  
I would suggest to _not_ use the name foo.d for a directory under /etc
that does _not_ use this principle.

Regards, Frank
-- 
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Abt. Biophysikalische Chemie



Re: Help with my program

2004-02-12 Thread Colin Watson
On Wed, Feb 11, 2004 at 09:01:57PM +0100, Nico Golde wrote:
 Hallo Frank,
 * Frank Küster [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004-02-11 20:07]:
   every program must have a man page?
  
  Policy, 12.1:
  
  ,
  | Each program, utility, and function should have an associated manual
  | page included in the same package. It is suggested that all
  | configuration files also have a manual page included as well. Manual
  | pages for protocols and other auxiliary things are optional.
  `
  
  Why are you surprised? If it's because you prefer info, you can just
  provide a minimal manpage and refer to the info documentation in it.
 
 I am surprised because i saw programs with an automatic created debian
 manpage or without a manpage.

It's a bug not to have a man page. Sadly, we have bugs ...

-- 
Colin Watson  [EMAIL PROTECTED]



adopting xcruiser

2004-02-12 Thread Ville Palo


Hi

I fixed one little bug (213654) and some lintian reported errors.

New debian package can be downloaded from http://www.fast.sh/~vi64pa/debian

I need sponsor for checking this packet and possibly
uploading it.


ville





Re: adopting xcruiser

2004-02-12 Thread Ville Palo


Sorry,

http://www.fast.sh/~vi64pa/

Ville Palo wrote:


Hi

I fixed one little bug (213654) and some lintian reported errors.

New debian package can be downloaded from http://www.fast.sh/~vi64pa/debian

I need sponsor for checking this packet and possibly
uploading it.


ville









Re: adopting xcruiser

2004-02-12 Thread Thomas Viehmann
Hi.

Ville Palo ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
I fixed one little bug (213654) and some lintian reported errors.
Just a few thoughts
- The package presently in Debian is xcruise, not xcruiser.
- Declare your intend to adopt the package by appropriatly changing
  the orphaning bug. Debian has policy on this and potential sponsors
  most likely prefer sponsoring people following them.
- Maybe get the bug reporter of the other important bug to test your package.
  If it's the same problem as 213654, you can ask can I find a sponsor for
  adopting xcruise, my package fixes all bugs with severity =important.

Cheers

T.



Re: adopting xcruiser

2004-02-12 Thread Thomas Viehmann
Hi.

Ville Palo wrote:
 http://www.fast.sh/~vi64pa/
The directory you pointed to does not contain the files necessary to
review your package.

Kind regards

Thomas

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Re: adopting xcruiser

2004-02-12 Thread Ville Palo


Ok, now there is a .tar.gz.

It should contain all the necessary files.

Thomas Viehmann wrote:

Hi.

Ville Palo wrote:


http://www.fast.sh/~vi64pa/


The directory you pointed to does not contain the files necessary to
review your package.

Kind regards

Thomas






Re: adopting xcruiser

2004-02-12 Thread Ville Palo


Hi Thomas

Thomas Viehmann wrote:

Hi.

Ville Palo ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:


I fixed one little bug (213654) and some lintian reported errors.


Just a few thoughts
- The package presently in Debian is xcruise, not xcruiser.
- Declare your intend to adopt the package by appropriatly changing
  the orphaning bug. Debian has policy on this and potential sponsors
  most likely prefer sponsoring people following them.


Ok, done that.


- Maybe get the bug reporter of the other important bug to test your package.
  If it's the same problem as 213654, you can ask can I find a sponsor for
  adopting xcruise, my package fixes all bugs with severity =important.


Those other bugs are not fixed, I'm sure about that.

ville



Re: adopting xcruiser

2004-02-12 Thread Thomas Viehmann
Ville Palo wrote:
 Ok, now there is a .tar.gz.
 It should contain all the necessary files.
The canonical way to do this (and thus probably the best way to get your
package looked at is to have *.orig.tar.gz, *.diff.gz, *.dsc and
possibly *.changes and *.deb in a directory.
Note also that you also need to include a about yourself adopting the
package (closing the orphaning bug) after you have declared yourself
maintainer in the debian/control.

Cheers

T.

-- 
Thomas Viehmann, http://beamnet.de/tv/


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Re: adopting xcruiser

2004-02-12 Thread Ville Palo


Ok, I just uploaded
*.orig.tar.gz
*.diff.gz
*.dsc
*.changes
*.deb

I haven't decclared my self maintainer yet,
Before I do that, i want to be sure the package is ok.

And thanks for helping me with this.

Thomas Viehmann wrote:

Ville Palo wrote:


Ok, now there is a .tar.gz.
It should contain all the necessary files.


The canonical way to do this (and thus probably the best way to get your
package looked at is to have *.orig.tar.gz, *.diff.gz, *.dsc and
possibly *.changes and *.deb in a directory.
Note also that you also need to include a about yourself adopting the
package (closing the orphaning bug) after you have declared yourself
maintainer in the debian/control.

Cheers

T.






data files in /etc?

2004-02-12 Thread Magosányi Árpád
Hi!

There are some files in /etc which are actually data files representing
the state of the system. Like /etc/mtab, /etc/network/ifstate, or
/etc/lvmconf/* (it is not even a text file).
These files are written by programs in occasions one cannot with good
heart call configuration. Isn't it against the policy?

There are practical reasons behind my question:
-if one uses a configuration management tool (like tla) to track changes
 in the configuration, one will stumble upon them sooner or later.
-if one wants to make the boot process unable to modify configuration,
 they will also be stumbled upon. (And given the fact that mount
 actually deletes and recreates /etc/mtab, the challenge is...
 challenging.)

-- 
GNU GPL: csak tiszta forrásból



Re: data files in /etc?

2004-02-12 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Thu, Feb 12, 2004 at 10:47:15PM +0100, Magos?nyi ?rp?d wrote:

 There are some files in /etc which are actually data files representing
 the state of the system. Like /etc/mtab, /etc/network/ifstate, or
 /etc/lvmconf/* (it is not even a text file).
 These files are written by programs in occasions one cannot with good
 heart call configuration. Isn't it against the policy?

mtab is explicitly blessed by the FHS.  The other files are there for the
same reason that mtab is, which is that they must be on the root filesystem.

-- 
 - mdz



Re: data files in /etc?

2004-02-12 Thread Steve Langasek
On Thu, Feb 12, 2004 at 10:47:15PM +0100, Magosányi Árpád wrote:
 There are some files in /etc which are actually data files representing
 the state of the system. Like /etc/mtab, /etc/network/ifstate, or
 /etc/lvmconf/* (it is not even a text file).
 These files are written by programs in occasions one cannot with good
 heart call configuration. Isn't it against the policy?

 There are practical reasons behind my question:
 -if one uses a configuration management tool (like tla) to track changes
  in the configuration, one will stumble upon them sooner or later.
 -if one wants to make the boot process unable to modify configuration,
  they will also be stumbled upon. (And given the fact that mount
  actually deletes and recreates /etc/mtab, the challenge is...
  challenging.)

There is a gray area currently, because the FHS contains no provision
for state files (persistent or not) that are available prior to /var
being mounted.  Discussion of this issue on debian-devel was extensive
last year, but it seems the farthest it got was get the FHS to sanction
it, then we'll consider it.

-- 
Steve Langasek
postmodern programmer


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