fixing a woody-only bug?

2004-07-28 Thread (mag)
Hi!

Please tell me how to fix a woody-only bug. I know that the uploaded
version should only contain the fix. I thought that the distribution
in changelog should be woody-proposed upgrades.
But the upload has been rejected bu Katie:

Rejected: Unknown distribution `woody-proposed-updates'.

Thank you for you help.



Re: fixing a woody-only bug?

2004-07-28 Thread Steve Langasek
On Wed, Jul 28, 2004 at 07:36:43AM +0200, Magosányi Árpád (mag) wrote:
 Please tell me how to fix a woody-only bug. I know that the uploaded
 version should only contain the fix. I thought that the distribution
 in changelog should be woody-proposed upgrades.
 But the upload has been rejected bu Katie:

 Rejected: Unknown distribution `woody-proposed-updates'.

The two names for this suite are proposed-updates and stable.

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Re: fixing a woody-only bug?

2004-07-28 Thread Andreas Metzler
On 2004-07-28 Magosányi Árpád (mag) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Please tell me how to fix a woody-only bug. I know that the uploaded
 version should only contain the fix. I thought that the distribution
 in changelog should be woody-proposed upgrades.
[...]

No, stable. Afaict from developers reference.
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Debian vs RedHat init script

2004-07-28 Thread Chirag Kantharia
Hi!

I'm packaging netdump for Debian. The package comes with it's own
initscripts, which are RedHat specific. I had used the Debian template
for initscript, in my first attempt to package netdump. Using the
RedHat version of the initscript (maintained upstream), I edited
Debian template, to match the functionality provided by the RedHat
initscript.

Because of this, I have, now, two copies of initscripts (RedHat and
Debian), which my sponsor, thinks, is redundant. The initscripts
differ quite a bit, and I am not sure, if one format can be converted
to another, using simple commands (and thus, be able to maintain just
one copy).

How do the other packages, get around this? I would be glad, if you
would point me to specific packages, that have a (upstream maintained)
RedHat specific initscript within the package source.

Regards,

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Re: Debian vs RedHat init script

2004-07-28 Thread Adrian 'Dagurashibanipal' von Bidder
On Wednesday 28 July 2004 10.09, Chirag Kantharia wrote:
[init scripts]

Hi,

You may want to have a look at the LSB spec - I bet it does say 
something about init scripts.

I haven't looked myself, yet, but it is on my TODO list - I have written 
a Debian-specific init script for postgrey, but I think I'd like to 
make it lsb-compatible, so upstream could distribute it (makes the diff 
smaller, and perhaps the RPM maintainer could use the same...)

Current prerelease of the LSB 2.0 spec has something on 
http://www.linuxbase.org/spec/booksets/LSB-Core/LSB-Core/iniscrptfunc.html, 
but I'd have to read and understand it really well, and also look at 
how much of it Debian offers (with or without lsb package). Haven't 
looked at the 1.3 spec.

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Re: RFS: Folding@home

2004-07-28 Thread Frank Küster
Nick Lewycky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 If there any sane way to autodetect a network connection? I'm strongly
 adverse to hassling anybody with extra debconf questions.

 I'll agree to a debconf question for it only if there's no good way to
 handle online and offline cases automatically. (This includes systems
 that might be set up to dial on outgoing connection attempts. However
 it detects the network should not trigger such a mechanism.)

Don't ask me... Well, perhaps route can do the trick. I'm not sure,
but I think even in a non-connected dialup system there has to be some
connection between the default route and the to-be connection. On an
ISDN system, there's a network device up even if not connected, but I'm
not sure for normal ppp connections.

- there's no documentation. At least you should try to (get permission
  to) include the command line options in
  http://folding.stanford.edu/console-userguide.html.

[...]
 I don't get it. What would you want it to do if you ran it from the
 commandline?

Well, e.g. -queueinfo would be interesting, -verbosity might be useful,
-forceSSE or -forceasm might be better on certain systems, etc.

 If you do manage to get it running, it will proceed to download a new
 machinedependent.dat, create a queue directory, download its
 FahCore*.exe files, and leave all this crap in the directory you ran
 it from. Not pretty.

That's bad. But one could create a wrapper script in /usr/bin

#!/bin/sh

FAHDIR=/var/lib/folding
EXECUTABLE=ForgotTheFancyName

cd $FAHDIR
$EXECUTABLE $*

 You can't reconfigure it, since you aren't running it as the
 fahclient user in the /var/lib/fahclient directory. You can't ask it
 for its queue information for the same reason.

So the wrapper would have to change it's UID - probably a case for a
perl script. I don't have any experience with such stuff, but there was
a discussion on this a while ago here in the group.

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Re: CDBS warning

2004-07-28 Thread Nico Golde
Hallo Sebastien,

* Sebastien Bacher [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004-07-28 12:30]:
  i saw other packages build with cdbs, which had these warning too?
  does anyone know, what it is?
 
 No idea on the warning, but afaik they are here for all my packages and
 I don't have a problem to build them. To be honest I've not tried to
 look on what do that, I just don't care since it works ... does it break
 your build ?

no, but i think it would be better if i know it :)
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Re: CDBS warning

2004-07-28 Thread Nico Golde
Hallo Andreas,

* Andreas Metzler [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004-07-28 12:31]:
  i switched my packages to cdbs and i think it is very good.
  but i have one problem, in the build process i get this warning:
  /usr/share/cdbs/1/rules/buildcore.mk:59: DEB_BUILD_MAKE_TARGET is a 
  deprecated variable
 [...]
 
 http://bugs.debian.org/cdbs
 #256079: cdbs: please remove deprecated warning - it's scary

thanks, its good to know that i am not the onlyone with this problem.
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Re: problems with cdbs

2004-07-28 Thread Nico Golde
Hallo Pierre,

* Pierre HABOUZIT [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004-07-28 12:31]:
 please read [1], especialy section called : Advanced customisation
 
 https://wiki.duckcorp.org/DebianPackagingTutorial_2fCDBS

i read it. it think i read all documentation in the web about cdbs.
sebastian said, that the upstream sources are faulty.
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Re: problems with cdbs

2004-07-28 Thread Nico Golde
Hallo Sebastien,

* Sebastien Bacher [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004-07-28 12:31]:
  i change my package gtksee to cdbs and have the problem, that the
  makefile doesn't uses the $(DESTDIR) variable.
  Then it tries in make install to install .mo-files in /usr/ instead of
  $(DESTDIR)/usr
  
  without cdbs this is no problem and it installs it correctly.
  i put two logs of the build process with and without cdbs in the
  attachment, it would be nice, if someone can have a look on it.
  you find the package without cdbs on:
  
  http://nico.f-451.net/debian/gtksee/no_cdbs/
  
  and the package with cdbs:
  
  http://nico.f-451.net/debian/gtksee/cdbs/
 
 Your orig.tar.gz has wrong permissions. 

oh thanks for the hint.
 
 BTW it's not a problem. CDBS do its job fine, that's the upstream system
 that is faulty:
 
 $ make install DESTDIR=/tmp
 ..
 /usr/bin/install: cannot remove
 `/usr/share/locale/fr/LC_MESSAGES/gtksee.mo': Permission denied
 installing fr.gmo as /usr/share/locale/fr/LC_MESSAGES/gtksee.mo
 /usr/bin/install: cannot remove
 `/usr/share/locale/es/LC_MESSAGES/gtksee.mo': Permission denied
 installing es.gmo as /usr/share/locale/es/LC_MESSAGES/gtksee.mo
 ...
 etc

thats the problem i mean. do you have an idea how to fix it? my skills
on autoconf are not so high i think.
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Re: Debian vs RedHat init script

2004-07-28 Thread Chirag Kantharia
On Wed, Jul 28, 2004 at 11:57:02AM +0200, Adrian 'Dagurashibanipal' von Bidder 
wrote:
| Current prerelease of the LSB 2.0 spec has something on 
| http://www.linuxbase.org/spec/booksets/LSB-Core/LSB-Core/iniscrptfunc.html, 
| but I'd have to read and understand it really well, and also look at 
| how much of it Debian offers (with or without lsb package). Haven't 
| looked at the 1.3 spec.

Hi Adrian

Thanks for the url. I'm not sure how that solves my problem. As I
understand you, I need to convince the upstream maintainer to switch
to LSB style initscript. I can try doing that. The initscript has some
weird function, which might be optionally used by the user, to
exchange ssh keys, so that the dump is copied to the server using ssh
(scp). The function has no place in the initscript, but RedHat prefers
to do it, that way. I've placed that key exchange, as part of
postinst.

If, for some reason, the upstream maintainer doesn't wish to modify
the initscript, to adhere to LSB recommendations, then, do I have an
alternative way to resort to?

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Re: problems with cdbs

2004-07-28 Thread Sebastien Bacher
Le mercredi 28 juillet 2004 à 12:43 +0200, Nico Golde a écrit :

 thats the problem i mean. do you have an idea how to fix it? my skills
 on autoconf are not so high i think.

Apparently it worked because the debian/rules used  make install prefix=
instead of DESTDIR=

I'll have a look on the build system today and let you know.


Cheers,

Sebastien Bacher



Re: problems with cdbs

2004-07-28 Thread Pierre HABOUZIT
On Wed, Jul 28, 2004 at 12:41:58PM +0200, Nico Golde wrote:
 Hallo Pierre,
 
 * Pierre HABOUZIT [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004-07-28 12:31]:
  please read [1], especialy section called : Advanced customisation
  
  https://wiki.duckcorp.org/DebianPackagingTutorial_2fCDBS
 
 i read it. it think i read all documentation in the web about cdbs.
 sebastian said, that the upstream sources are faulty.
 regards nico

  well, S.  Bacher said :

  Apparently it worked because the debian/rules used  make install
 prefix= instead of DESTDIR=

  so In your debian/rules using cdbs I guess you have to do that :
DEB_MAKE_INSTALL_TARGET := install DESTDIR=$(DEB_DESTDIR) prefix=$(DEB_DESTDIR)

  (default is : DEB_MAKE_INSTALL_TARGET := install DESTDIR=$(DEB_DESTDIR) )

  it was in the doc, in the section I mentionned to you
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Re: Debian vs RedHat init script

2004-07-28 Thread Frank Küster
Chirag Kantharia [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb:

 Because of this, I have, now, two copies of initscripts (RedHat and
 Debian), which my sponsor, thinks, is redundant. The initscripts
 differ quite a bit, and I am not sure, if one format can be converted
 to another, using simple commands (and thus, be able to maintain just
 one copy).

I would not see a problem in the duplication. If the differences are
really so big that a patch does not make sense, I would just ignore the
old one.

Whether you replace it by your init script (diff is in the diff.gz) or
keep your script in debian and use debian/rules to copy it over the
redhatish original in debian/tmp/... is just a matter of taste, I'd
say. 

Regards, Frank
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Re: Debian vs RedHat init script

2004-07-28 Thread Stephen Gran
This one time, at band camp, Chirag Kantharia said:
 Hi!
 
 I'm packaging netdump for Debian. The package comes with it's own
 initscripts, which are RedHat specific. I had used the Debian template
 for initscript, in my first attempt to package netdump. Using the
 RedHat version of the initscript (maintained upstream), I edited
 Debian template, to match the functionality provided by the RedHat
 initscript.
 
 Because of this, I have, now, two copies of initscripts (RedHat and
 Debian), which my sponsor, thinks, is redundant. The initscripts
 differ quite a bit, and I am not sure, if one format can be converted
 to another, using simple commands (and thus, be able to maintain just
 one copy).
 
 How do the other packages, get around this? I would be glad, if you
 would point me to specific packages, that have a (upstream maintained)
 RedHat specific initscript within the package source.

One of my packages (clamav) comes with init scripts for both RedHat and
Suse.  I leave them as is in the source tarball, and just don't put them
in the distributed .debs.  There are many ways to do this, but I've
found the easiest is to have the normal `make install` go to
debian/tmp, and then pick what you want out of there to go to the
respective package directories.

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Re: Debian vs RedHat init script

2004-07-28 Thread Adrian 'Dagurashibanipal' von Bidder
On Wednesday 28 July 2004 12.55, Chirag Kantharia wrote:
 On Wed, Jul 28, 2004 at 11:57:02AM +0200, Adrian 'Dagurashibanipal' 
von Bidder wrote:

 Thanks for the url. I'm not sure how that solves my problem. As I
 understand you, I need to convince the upstream maintainer to switch
 to LSB style initscript. I can try doing that. The initscript has

Yes, that was my idea - so everybody can use the same init script.

 some weird function, which might be optionally used by the user, to
 exchange ssh keys, so that the dump is copied to the server using ssh
 (scp). The function has no place in the initscript, but RedHat

As far as I see it, an lsb compliant init script can still do whatever 
it wants as long as it does the right things for the start/stop/... 
arguments, so that shouldn't be a problem. (And you don't have to use 
that part, after all)

 prefers to do it, that way. I've placed that key exchange, as part of
 postinst.

 If, for some reason, the upstream maintainer doesn't wish to modify
 the initscript, to adhere to LSB recommendations, then, do I have an
 alternative way to resort to?

I guess just keep your own init script. You may want to document in 
README.Debian that the ssh key functionality of the RH script is done 
differently, just in case the Debian package is used by a user used to 
the other script.

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Re: problems with cdbs

2004-07-28 Thread Eduard Bloch
#include hallo.h
* Pierre HABOUZIT [Tue, Jul 27 2004, 11:19:22PM]:
 
   please read [1], especialy section called : Advanced customisation
 
 https://wiki.duckcorp.org/DebianPackagingTutorial_2fCDBS

I think, CDBS restricts too much, simply dangerous hocus pocus. For
example, I still don't see how to run a special program directly after
dh_libdeps has been run (not before and not after the whole package
built). I also cannot see how to override the whole install rule of
debian/rules (or anything similar to that inside of the CDBS internals).

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Re: problems with cdbs

2004-07-28 Thread Pierre HABOUZIT
On Wed, Jul 28, 2004 at 03:22:19PM +0200, Eduard Bloch wrote:
 #include hallo.h
 * Pierre HABOUZIT [Tue, Jul 27 2004, 11:19:22PM]:
  
please read [1], especialy section called : Advanced customisation
  
  https://wiki.duckcorp.org/DebianPackagingTutorial_2fCDBS
 
 I think, CDBS restricts too much, simply dangerous hocus pocus. For
 example, I still don't see how to run a special program directly after
 dh_libdeps has been run (not before and not after the whole package
 built). I also cannot see how to override the whole install rule of
 debian/rules (or anything similar to that inside of the CDBS internals).

  Well, I guess cdbs aim is not to remove the fully made by hand with
dh_* debian/rules but to simplify its writing for non-pathological
cases.  I use it since a few month, for kde apps, and web apps, and I
find that the resulting debian/rules are really really readable, and
don't have the lot of noise a non-cdbs rules has.

  btw nobody force you to use it ;p
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RFTS: irda-utils

2004-07-28 Thread Sebastian Henschel
hi folks...

as my current sponsor has to renew his gpg-key and the freeze for sarge
is about to happen in the foreseeable future, i hereby put a request for
a temporary sponsor for the package irda-utils. some important things have
changed from -4 to -5, so i believe to need a couple of uploads to the
archive until irda-utils will be fit for sarge.

Name: irda-utils
License: GPL
Short description: IrDA management and handling utilities
Long description:
 This package contains userspace utilities to manage and handle infrared
 devices. It includes irattach, findchip, irdadump, irdaping and
 irpsion5.
 OBEX tools are removed since 0.9.5. If you need to use IrOBEX,
 use openobex-apps package.
 .
  Authors: Dag Brattli [EMAIL PROTECTED] and
   Jean Tourrilhes [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Homepage: http://irda.sourceforge.net
Obtainable from:
 deb http://mentors.debian.net/debian unstable main contrib non-free 


thanks in advance,
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Re: RFTS: irda-utils

2004-07-28 Thread Sebastian Henschel
hello..

10 minutes after i sent this, i got my account @debian.org...
so forget about the sponsor thing, but you might have a look at it,
anyway. :)

bye,
 sebastian

* Sebastian Henschel [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004-07-28 16:21 +0200]:

 as my current sponsor has to renew his gpg-key and the freeze for sarge
 is about to happen in the foreseeable future, i hereby put a request for
 a temporary sponsor for the package irda-utils. some important things have
 changed from -4 to -5, so i believe to need a couple of uploads to the
 archive until irda-utils will be fit for sarge.
 
 Name: irda-utils
 License: GPL
 Short description: IrDA management and handling utilities
 Long description:
  This package contains userspace utilities to manage and handle infrared
  devices. It includes irattach, findchip, irdadump, irdaping and
  irpsion5.
  OBEX tools are removed since 0.9.5. If you need to use IrOBEX,
  use openobex-apps package.
  .
   Authors: Dag Brattli [EMAIL PROTECTED] and
Jean Tourrilhes [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Homepage: http://irda.sourceforge.net
 Obtainable from:
  deb http://mentors.debian.net/debian unstable main contrib non-free 

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Re: fixing a woody-only bug?

2004-07-28 Thread Nico Golde
Hallo Magosányi,

* Magosányi Árpád (mag) [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004-07-28 12:32]:
 Please tell me how to fix a woody-only bug. I know that the uploaded
 version should only contain the fix. I thought that the distribution
 in changelog should be woody-proposed upgrades.
 But the upload has been rejected bu Katie:
 
 Rejected: Unknown distribution `woody-proposed-updates'.

do you read this:
Packages uploaded to stable need to be compiled on systems running stable, so
that their dependencies are limited to the libraries (and other packages)
available in stable; for example, a package uploaded to stable that depends on
a library package that only exists in unstable will be rejected. Making changes
to dependencies of other packages (by messing with Provides or shlibs files),
possibly making those other packages uninstallable, is strongly discouraged.

The Release Team (which can be reached at debian-release@lists.debian.org) will
regularly evaluate the uploads in stable-proposed-updates and decide if your
package can be included in stable. Please be clear (and verbose, if necessary)
in your changelog entries for uploads to stable, because otherwise the package
won't be considered for inclusion.

Developers Reference 5.5.1
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Re: problems with cdbs

2004-07-28 Thread Nico Golde
Hallo Pierre,

* Pierre HABOUZIT [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004-07-28 18:25]:
   please read [1], especialy section called : Advanced customisation
   
   https://wiki.duckcorp.org/DebianPackagingTutorial_2fCDBS
  
  i read it. it think i read all documentation in the web about cdbs.
  sebastian said, that the upstream sources are faulty.
 
   well, S.  Bacher said :
 
   Apparently it worked because the debian/rules used  make install
  prefix= instead of DESTDIR=

sorry, maybe i am blind, he wrotes this:
Your orig.tar.gz has wrong permissions.

BTW it's not a problem. CDBS do its job fine, that's the upstream system
that is faulty:

$ make install DESTDIR=/tmp
..
/usr/bin/install: cannot remove
`/usr/share/locale/fr/LC_MESSAGES/gtksee.mo': Permission denied
installing fr.gmo as /usr/share/locale/fr/LC_MESSAGES/gtksee.mo
/usr/bin/install: cannot remove
`/usr/share/locale/es/LC_MESSAGES/gtksee.mo': Permission denied
installing es.gmo as /usr/share/locale/es/LC_MESSAGES/gtksee.mo
...
etc

 
  so In your debian/rules using cdbs I guess you have to do that :
 DEB_MAKE_INSTALL_TARGET := install DESTDIR=$(DEB_DESTDIR) 
 prefix=$(DEB_DESTDIR)

ah thanks.
 
   (default is : DEB_MAKE_INSTALL_TARGET := install DESTDIR=$(DEB_DESTDIR) )
 
   it was in the doc, in the section I mentionned to you

i had an offline copy, this was apparent outdated. next time i use the online 
version.
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Re: package with more than one license: logwatch

2004-07-28 Thread Willi Mann

Frank Küster wrote:

Willi Mann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

For the general problems associated with different licenses in one
package, you might find a look at http://bugs.debian.org/218105
informative. (Although I hope that your package isn't as mixed as
ours). 



Thanks.

Can anyone tell me please if attached copyright file is OK? What I'm unsure 
about is if it's enough to list all the mentioned names in the package or do 
I have to do the painful act of working out who owns a copyright on which of 
 the many scripts?


 That's the way to go. Of course you have to make sure that this is
 legally possible at all (is any linking done?).

Logwatch's language is perl. It mostly does cat logfile | filter1 | filter2 
  | filter3 ... But why do you think, linking would be a problem? Public 
Domain and X11 are both GPL-compatible.


Willi
This package was debianized by Willi Mann [EMAIL PROTECTED] on
Wed, 12 Nov 2003 20:14:15 +0100.

It was downloaded from ftp://ftp.kaybee.org/pub/linux/logwatch-5.1.tar.gz

Logwatch consists of many individual scripts. Most of them were written by
Kirk Bauer [EMAIL PROTECTED], who is also the maintainer of logwatch.

Other authors and contributors:
---

Dariusz Nierada [EMAIL PROTECTED]
David Golden [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Eric Moret [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Fabrizio Zeno Cornelli [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Instead of the amd64 GR: rudimentary amd64 support for sarge, need sponsor.

2004-07-28 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Hi,

given the current sarge deadline and the opinions expressed by some of
the release team a full amd64 port in sarge is not going to happen. So
lets move on.


What else can we do for amd64 users?

We have a fully working i386 port which works on amd64 systems too.
What we need most now is support for:

1. Kernel support for amd64 to run 32/64 bit binaries

I want to upload a kernel-image-2.6.7-amd64 to i386. That would be
along the same lines as the sparc64 or s390x kernel image in sparc or
s390 respectively. So nothing new there.

2. Support to run dynamically linked 64 binaries (e.g. from SuSe/RH)

What is needed is a /lib64 and /usr/lib64 directory with the core
libraries. There already is a ia32-libs packages doing the reverse for
ia64 and pure64. This just reverses the roles. Again nothing new.

3. Support to compile 64 bit binaries

The kernel and libs need to be compiled somewhere. They could be build
on pure64 and uploaded to i386 without problems but it would be nicer
if they could be build under sarge i386 itself. This could be eigther
a cross compiler (like the rest of the cross tool packages) or a 64bit
native compiler. I tend to the later even if that restricts building
those packages to an actual amd64 system.

Thesource for the toolchain is already in sarge so no GPL problems
even if (3) is scratched.


So who is willing to sponsor the following packages:

kernel-image-2.6.7-amd64
amd64-libs
amd64-libs-dev
gcc-3.3-amd64
gcc-3.4-amd64
binutils-amd64

None of those are base or standard so there is no must be today
rush. But it still needs to be rushed a bit.

MfG
Goswin



Re: Instead of the amd64 GR: rudimentary amd64 support for sarge, need sponsor.

2004-07-28 Thread Thiemo Seufer
Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
 Hi,
 
 given the current sarge deadline and the opinions expressed by some of
 the release team a full amd64 port in sarge is not going to happen. So
 lets move on.
 
 
 What else can we do for amd64 users?

What about maintaining a stable repository for amd64 on alioth
alongside the official sarge one?


Thiemo



Re: Debian vs RedHat init script

2004-07-28 Thread Joey Hess
Adrian 'Dagurashibanipal' von Bidder wrote:
  Thanks for the url. I'm not sure how that solves my problem. As I
  understand you, I need to convince the upstream maintainer to switch
  to LSB style initscript. I can try doing that. The initscript has
 
 Yes, that was my idea - so everybody can use the same init script.

To use lsb init scripts in Debian, you need to have the lsb package
installed. I don't think that we want to have debian packages depending
on lsb, for one thing it pulls in lots of other stuff.

I've also discovered that supposedly lsb compliant distributions violate
its init script policy in various ways which can be quite hard to work
around in an lsb init script, but YMMV there.

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RFS: gbuffy (adopted)

2004-07-28 Thread Adeodato Simó
Hi all,

  I'm looking for a sponsor to upload a new gbuffy version for me. I've
  decided to adopt the gbuffy package since it is in bad shape, I use it
  every day and I wouldn't like it to be removed from Debian. The wnpp
  bug is #242096.

  This version cleans up the packaging a little and, most importantly,
  fixes a nasty segfault (#241371) which makes the package if not
  unusable, at least quite user unfriendly. After this version has
  entered testing, I plan to introduce some features myself, since
  upstream is dead.

  The package description follows, and the changes file is attached. If
  you finally decide to sponsor me, please pass -v0.2.6-5 to debuild
  or dpkg-buildpackage in order to get all un-uploaded versions listed.
  Any other input of course appreciated.

  gbuffy_0.2.6-8 is available in mentors.debian.net:

http://mentors.debian.net/debian/pool/main/g/gbuffy/gbuffy_0.2.6-8.dsc
http://mentors.debian.net/debian/pool/main/g/gbuffy/gbuffy_0.2.6-8.diff.gz

  the orig.tar.gz package may be fetched from any Debian mirror, e.g.:

http://ftp.es.debian.org/debian/pool/main/g/gbuffy/gbuffy_0.2.6.orig.tar.gz

  thanks.

Package: gbuffy
Priority: optional
Section: mail
Version: 0.2.6-8

Description: A GTK+-based, XBuffy-like multiple mailbox biff program
GBuffy will poll multiple mailboxes for new mail. It will list the
number of new messages in each mailbox you configure. It will also
highlight the mailboxes which have new mail. Pressing the left mouse
button on a mailbox with new mail will display the Sender and Subject
of each new message. Additionally, GBuffy will display the X-Face
header for messages which have them. Pressing the middle mouse button
on a mailbox will launch the configured command, generally a command
to read the mailbox with your favorite mailreader. Pressing the right
mouse button will bring up the configure menu.
.
GBuffy is currently capable of watching MBOX, MMDF, Maildir and MH
Folders. This version also supports IMAP4rev1 and NNTP with XOVER
mailboxes. Support for an external program for notification is
planned.

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Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 05:26:16 +0200
Source: gbuffy
Binary: gbuffy
Architecture: source i386
Version: 0.2.6-8
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Adeodato Simó [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Changed-By: Adeodato Simó [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Description: 
 gbuffy - A GTK+-based, XBuffy-like multiple mailbox biff program
Closes: 241371 241372 242096
Changes: 
 gbuffy (0.2.6-8) unstable; urgency=low
 .
   * debian/rules:
 - wipe out commented stuff for building gbuffy-gnome.
 - move DH_COMPAT to debian/compat.
 - general cleanup.
   * removed debian/gbuffy{_applet.desktop,-gnome.menu,.gnorba}.
   * debian/copyright: added copyright notice for files from mutt.
   * debian/control: list myself as the package maintainer. (Closes: #242096)
 .
 gbuffy (0.2.6-7) unstable; urgency=low
 .
   * debian/patches: removed 20_convert-charset, which is quite untested, in
 order to make a version suitable to enter sarge and stay there for quite a
 long time.
   * debian/control: removed Build-Depends on xlibs-dev.
 .
 gbuffy (0.2.6-6) unstable; urgency=low
 .
   * debian/control:
 + remove obsolete Build-Depends on libgnome-dev, since the gnome version
   is no longer built.
 + bumped Standards-Version to 3.6.1 (no changes required).
   * debian/patches/:
 + updated 10_libwings to avoid crashing after adding a new mailbox.
   (Closes: #241371, #241372)
 + added 20_convert-charset, to convert RFC 2047 decoded strings to the
   local charset (scratch-an-itch patch).
   * debian/copyright: updated download URL.
   * debian/menu: use the full path in the command.
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 9f91d572d82dbefa1af056747b2dbfa8 627 mail optional gbuffy_0.2.6-8.dsc
 e0b82b6601b1acb7d214c7221f1c0b48 5853 mail optional gbuffy_0.2.6-8.diff.gz
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fixing a woody-only bug?

2004-07-28 Thread (mag)
Hi!

Please tell me how to fix a woody-only bug. I know that the uploaded
version should only contain the fix. I thought that the distribution
in changelog should be woody-proposed upgrades.
But the upload has been rejected bu Katie:

Rejected: Unknown distribution `woody-proposed-updates'.

Thank you for you help.


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Re: fixing a woody-only bug?

2004-07-28 Thread Steve Langasek
On Wed, Jul 28, 2004 at 07:36:43AM +0200, Magosányi Árpád (mag) wrote:
 Please tell me how to fix a woody-only bug. I know that the uploaded
 version should only contain the fix. I thought that the distribution
 in changelog should be woody-proposed upgrades.
 But the upload has been rejected bu Katie:

 Rejected: Unknown distribution `woody-proposed-updates'.

The two names for this suite are proposed-updates and stable.

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Re: fixing a woody-only bug?

2004-07-28 Thread Andreas Metzler
On 2004-07-28 Magosányi Árpád (mag) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Please tell me how to fix a woody-only bug. I know that the uploaded
 version should only contain the fix. I thought that the distribution
 in changelog should be woody-proposed upgrades.
[...]

No, stable. Afaict from developers reference.
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Debian vs RedHat init script

2004-07-28 Thread Chirag Kantharia
Hi!

I'm packaging netdump for Debian. The package comes with it's own
initscripts, which are RedHat specific. I had used the Debian template
for initscript, in my first attempt to package netdump. Using the
RedHat version of the initscript (maintained upstream), I edited
Debian template, to match the functionality provided by the RedHat
initscript.

Because of this, I have, now, two copies of initscripts (RedHat and
Debian), which my sponsor, thinks, is redundant. The initscripts
differ quite a bit, and I am not sure, if one format can be converted
to another, using simple commands (and thus, be able to maintain just
one copy).

How do the other packages, get around this? I would be glad, if you
would point me to specific packages, that have a (upstream maintained)
RedHat specific initscript within the package source.

Regards,

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Re: Debian vs RedHat init script

2004-07-28 Thread Adrian 'Dagurashibanipal' von Bidder
On Wednesday 28 July 2004 10.09, Chirag Kantharia wrote:
[init scripts]

Hi,

You may want to have a look at the LSB spec - I bet it does say 
something about init scripts.

I haven't looked myself, yet, but it is on my TODO list - I have written 
a Debian-specific init script for postgrey, but I think I'd like to 
make it lsb-compatible, so upstream could distribute it (makes the diff 
smaller, and perhaps the RPM maintainer could use the same...)

Current prerelease of the LSB 2.0 spec has something on 
http://www.linuxbase.org/spec/booksets/LSB-Core/LSB-Core/iniscrptfunc.html, 
but I'd have to read and understand it really well, and also look at 
how much of it Debian offers (with or without lsb package). Haven't 
looked at the 1.3 spec.

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Re: RFS: Folding@home

2004-07-28 Thread Frank Küster
Nick Lewycky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 If there any sane way to autodetect a network connection? I'm strongly
 adverse to hassling anybody with extra debconf questions.

 I'll agree to a debconf question for it only if there's no good way to
 handle online and offline cases automatically. (This includes systems
 that might be set up to dial on outgoing connection attempts. However
 it detects the network should not trigger such a mechanism.)

Don't ask me... Well, perhaps route can do the trick. I'm not sure,
but I think even in a non-connected dialup system there has to be some
connection between the default route and the to-be connection. On an
ISDN system, there's a network device up even if not connected, but I'm
not sure for normal ppp connections.

- there's no documentation. At least you should try to (get permission
  to) include the command line options in
  http://folding.stanford.edu/console-userguide.html.

[...]
 I don't get it. What would you want it to do if you ran it from the
 commandline?

Well, e.g. -queueinfo would be interesting, -verbosity might be useful,
-forceSSE or -forceasm might be better on certain systems, etc.

 If you do manage to get it running, it will proceed to download a new
 machinedependent.dat, create a queue directory, download its
 FahCore*.exe files, and leave all this crap in the directory you ran
 it from. Not pretty.

That's bad. But one could create a wrapper script in /usr/bin

#!/bin/sh

FAHDIR=/var/lib/folding
EXECUTABLE=ForgotTheFancyName

cd $FAHDIR
$EXECUTABLE $*

 You can't reconfigure it, since you aren't running it as the
 fahclient user in the /var/lib/fahclient directory. You can't ask it
 for its queue information for the same reason.

So the wrapper would have to change it's UID - probably a case for a
perl script. I don't have any experience with such stuff, but there was
a discussion on this a while ago here in the group.

Regards, Frank
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Re: CDBS warning

2004-07-28 Thread Nico Golde
Hallo Andreas,

* Andreas Metzler [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004-07-28 12:31]:
  i switched my packages to cdbs and i think it is very good.
  but i have one problem, in the build process i get this warning:
  /usr/share/cdbs/1/rules/buildcore.mk:59: DEB_BUILD_MAKE_TARGET is a deprecated 
  variable
 [...]
 
 http://bugs.debian.org/cdbs
 #256079: cdbs: please remove deprecated warning - it's scary

thanks, its good to know that i am not the onlyone with this problem.
regards nico
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Re: problems with cdbs

2004-07-28 Thread Nico Golde
Hallo Pierre,

* Pierre HABOUZIT [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004-07-28 12:31]:
 please read [1], especialy section called : Advanced customisation
 
 https://wiki.duckcorp.org/DebianPackagingTutorial_2fCDBS

i read it. it think i read all documentation in the web about cdbs.
sebastian said, that the upstream sources are faulty.
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Re: problems with cdbs

2004-07-28 Thread Nico Golde
Hallo Sebastien,

* Sebastien Bacher [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004-07-28 12:31]:
  i change my package gtksee to cdbs and have the problem, that the
  makefile doesn't uses the $(DESTDIR) variable.
  Then it tries in make install to install .mo-files in /usr/ instead of
  $(DESTDIR)/usr
  
  without cdbs this is no problem and it installs it correctly.
  i put two logs of the build process with and without cdbs in the
  attachment, it would be nice, if someone can have a look on it.
  you find the package without cdbs on:
  
  http://nico.f-451.net/debian/gtksee/no_cdbs/
  
  and the package with cdbs:
  
  http://nico.f-451.net/debian/gtksee/cdbs/
 
 Your orig.tar.gz has wrong permissions. 

oh thanks for the hint.
 
 BTW it's not a problem. CDBS do its job fine, that's the upstream system
 that is faulty:
 
 $ make install DESTDIR=/tmp
 ..
 /usr/bin/install: cannot remove
 `/usr/share/locale/fr/LC_MESSAGES/gtksee.mo': Permission denied
 installing fr.gmo as /usr/share/locale/fr/LC_MESSAGES/gtksee.mo
 /usr/bin/install: cannot remove
 `/usr/share/locale/es/LC_MESSAGES/gtksee.mo': Permission denied
 installing es.gmo as /usr/share/locale/es/LC_MESSAGES/gtksee.mo
 ...
 etc

thats the problem i mean. do you have an idea how to fix it? my skills
on autoconf are not so high i think.
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Re: problems with cdbs

2004-07-28 Thread Sebastien Bacher
Le mercredi 28 juillet 2004 à 12:43 +0200, Nico Golde a écrit :

 thats the problem i mean. do you have an idea how to fix it? my skills
 on autoconf are not so high i think.

Apparently it worked because the debian/rules used  make install prefix=
instead of DESTDIR=

I'll have a look on the build system today and let you know.


Cheers,

Sebastien Bacher



Re: problems with cdbs

2004-07-28 Thread Pierre HABOUZIT
On Wed, Jul 28, 2004 at 12:41:58PM +0200, Nico Golde wrote:
 Hallo Pierre,
 
 * Pierre HABOUZIT [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004-07-28 12:31]:
  please read [1], especialy section called : Advanced customisation
  
  https://wiki.duckcorp.org/DebianPackagingTutorial_2fCDBS
 
 i read it. it think i read all documentation in the web about cdbs.
 sebastian said, that the upstream sources are faulty.
 regards nico

  well, S.  Bacher said :

  Apparently it worked because the debian/rules used  make install
 prefix= instead of DESTDIR=

  so In your debian/rules using cdbs I guess you have to do that :
DEB_MAKE_INSTALL_TARGET := install DESTDIR=$(DEB_DESTDIR) prefix=$(DEB_DESTDIR)

  (default is : DEB_MAKE_INSTALL_TARGET := install DESTDIR=$(DEB_DESTDIR) )

  it was in the doc, in the section I mentionned to you
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Re: Debian vs RedHat init script

2004-07-28 Thread Frank Küster
Chirag Kantharia [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb:

 Because of this, I have, now, two copies of initscripts (RedHat and
 Debian), which my sponsor, thinks, is redundant. The initscripts
 differ quite a bit, and I am not sure, if one format can be converted
 to another, using simple commands (and thus, be able to maintain just
 one copy).

I would not see a problem in the duplication. If the differences are
really so big that a patch does not make sense, I would just ignore the
old one.

Whether you replace it by your init script (diff is in the diff.gz) or
keep your script in debian and use debian/rules to copy it over the
redhatish original in debian/tmp/... is just a matter of taste, I'd
say. 

Regards, Frank
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Re: Debian vs RedHat init script

2004-07-28 Thread Stephen Gran
This one time, at band camp, Chirag Kantharia said:
 Hi!
 
 I'm packaging netdump for Debian. The package comes with it's own
 initscripts, which are RedHat specific. I had used the Debian template
 for initscript, in my first attempt to package netdump. Using the
 RedHat version of the initscript (maintained upstream), I edited
 Debian template, to match the functionality provided by the RedHat
 initscript.
 
 Because of this, I have, now, two copies of initscripts (RedHat and
 Debian), which my sponsor, thinks, is redundant. The initscripts
 differ quite a bit, and I am not sure, if one format can be converted
 to another, using simple commands (and thus, be able to maintain just
 one copy).
 
 How do the other packages, get around this? I would be glad, if you
 would point me to specific packages, that have a (upstream maintained)
 RedHat specific initscript within the package source.

One of my packages (clamav) comes with init scripts for both RedHat and
Suse.  I leave them as is in the source tarball, and just don't put them
in the distributed .debs.  There are many ways to do this, but I've
found the easiest is to have the normal `make install` go to
debian/tmp, and then pick what you want out of there to go to the
respective package directories.

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Re: Debian vs RedHat init script

2004-07-28 Thread Adrian 'Dagurashibanipal' von Bidder
On Wednesday 28 July 2004 12.55, Chirag Kantharia wrote:
 On Wed, Jul 28, 2004 at 11:57:02AM +0200, Adrian 'Dagurashibanipal' 
von Bidder wrote:

 Thanks for the url. I'm not sure how that solves my problem. As I
 understand you, I need to convince the upstream maintainer to switch
 to LSB style initscript. I can try doing that. The initscript has

Yes, that was my idea - so everybody can use the same init script.

 some weird function, which might be optionally used by the user, to
 exchange ssh keys, so that the dump is copied to the server using ssh
 (scp). The function has no place in the initscript, but RedHat

As far as I see it, an lsb compliant init script can still do whatever 
it wants as long as it does the right things for the start/stop/... 
arguments, so that shouldn't be a problem. (And you don't have to use 
that part, after all)

 prefers to do it, that way. I've placed that key exchange, as part of
 postinst.

 If, for some reason, the upstream maintainer doesn't wish to modify
 the initscript, to adhere to LSB recommendations, then, do I have an
 alternative way to resort to?

I guess just keep your own init script. You may want to document in 
README.Debian that the ssh key functionality of the RH script is done 
differently, just in case the Debian package is used by a user used to 
the other script.

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Re: problems with cdbs

2004-07-28 Thread Eduard Bloch
#include hallo.h
* Pierre HABOUZIT [Tue, Jul 27 2004, 11:19:22PM]:
 
   please read [1], especialy section called : Advanced customisation
 
 https://wiki.duckcorp.org/DebianPackagingTutorial_2fCDBS

I think, CDBS restricts too much, simply dangerous hocus pocus. For
example, I still don't see how to run a special program directly after
dh_libdeps has been run (not before and not after the whole package
built). I also cannot see how to override the whole install rule of
debian/rules (or anything similar to that inside of the CDBS internals).

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Re: problems with cdbs

2004-07-28 Thread Pierre HABOUZIT
On Wed, Jul 28, 2004 at 03:22:19PM +0200, Eduard Bloch wrote:
 #include hallo.h
 * Pierre HABOUZIT [Tue, Jul 27 2004, 11:19:22PM]:
  
please read [1], especialy section called : Advanced customisation
  
  https://wiki.duckcorp.org/DebianPackagingTutorial_2fCDBS
 
 I think, CDBS restricts too much, simply dangerous hocus pocus. For
 example, I still don't see how to run a special program directly after
 dh_libdeps has been run (not before and not after the whole package
 built). I also cannot see how to override the whole install rule of
 debian/rules (or anything similar to that inside of the CDBS internals).

  Well, I guess cdbs aim is not to remove the fully made by hand with
dh_* debian/rules but to simplify its writing for non-pathological
cases.  I use it since a few month, for kde apps, and web apps, and I
find that the resulting debian/rules are really really readable, and
don't have the lot of noise a non-cdbs rules has.

  btw nobody force you to use it ;p
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RFTS: irda-utils

2004-07-28 Thread Sebastian Henschel
hi folks...

as my current sponsor has to renew his gpg-key and the freeze for sarge
is about to happen in the foreseeable future, i hereby put a request for
a temporary sponsor for the package irda-utils. some important things have
changed from -4 to -5, so i believe to need a couple of uploads to the
archive until irda-utils will be fit for sarge.

Name: irda-utils
License: GPL
Short description: IrDA management and handling utilities
Long description:
 This package contains userspace utilities to manage and handle infrared
 devices. It includes irattach, findchip, irdadump, irdaping and
 irpsion5.
 OBEX tools are removed since 0.9.5. If you need to use IrOBEX,
 use openobex-apps package.
 .
  Authors: Dag Brattli [EMAIL PROTECTED] and
   Jean Tourrilhes [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Homepage: http://irda.sourceforge.net
Obtainable from:
 deb http://mentors.debian.net/debian unstable main contrib non-free 


thanks in advance,
 sebastian
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Re: RFTS: irda-utils

2004-07-28 Thread Sebastian Henschel
hello..

10 minutes after i sent this, i got my account @debian.org...
so forget about the sponsor thing, but you might have a look at it,
anyway. :)

bye,
 sebastian

* Sebastian Henschel [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004-07-28 16:21 +0200]:

 as my current sponsor has to renew his gpg-key and the freeze for sarge
 is about to happen in the foreseeable future, i hereby put a request for
 a temporary sponsor for the package irda-utils. some important things have
 changed from -4 to -5, so i believe to need a couple of uploads to the
 archive until irda-utils will be fit for sarge.
 
 Name: irda-utils
 License: GPL
 Short description: IrDA management and handling utilities
 Long description:
  This package contains userspace utilities to manage and handle infrared
  devices. It includes irattach, findchip, irdadump, irdaping and
  irpsion5.
  OBEX tools are removed since 0.9.5. If you need to use IrOBEX,
  use openobex-apps package.
  .
   Authors: Dag Brattli [EMAIL PROTECTED] and
Jean Tourrilhes [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Homepage: http://irda.sourceforge.net
 Obtainable from:
  deb http://mentors.debian.net/debian unstable main contrib non-free 

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Re: fixing a woody-only bug?

2004-07-28 Thread Nico Golde
Hallo Magosányi,

* Magosányi Árpád (mag) [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004-07-28 12:32]:
 Please tell me how to fix a woody-only bug. I know that the uploaded
 version should only contain the fix. I thought that the distribution
 in changelog should be woody-proposed upgrades.
 But the upload has been rejected bu Katie:
 
 Rejected: Unknown distribution `woody-proposed-updates'.

do you read this:
Packages uploaded to stable need to be compiled on systems running stable, so
that their dependencies are limited to the libraries (and other packages)
available in stable; for example, a package uploaded to stable that depends on
a library package that only exists in unstable will be rejected. Making changes
to dependencies of other packages (by messing with Provides or shlibs files),
possibly making those other packages uninstallable, is strongly discouraged.

The Release Team (which can be reached at [EMAIL PROTECTED]) will
regularly evaluate the uploads in stable-proposed-updates and decide if your
package can be included in stable. Please be clear (and verbose, if necessary)
in your changelog entries for uploads to stable, because otherwise the package
won't be considered for inclusion.

Developers Reference 5.5.1
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Re: problems with cdbs

2004-07-28 Thread Nico Golde
Hallo Pierre,

* Pierre HABOUZIT [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004-07-28 18:25]:
   please read [1], especialy section called : Advanced customisation
   
   https://wiki.duckcorp.org/DebianPackagingTutorial_2fCDBS
  
  i read it. it think i read all documentation in the web about cdbs.
  sebastian said, that the upstream sources are faulty.
 
   well, S.  Bacher said :
 
   Apparently it worked because the debian/rules used  make install
  prefix= instead of DESTDIR=

sorry, maybe i am blind, he wrotes this:
Your orig.tar.gz has wrong permissions.

BTW it's not a problem. CDBS do its job fine, that's the upstream system
that is faulty:

$ make install DESTDIR=/tmp
..
/usr/bin/install: cannot remove
`/usr/share/locale/fr/LC_MESSAGES/gtksee.mo': Permission denied
installing fr.gmo as /usr/share/locale/fr/LC_MESSAGES/gtksee.mo
/usr/bin/install: cannot remove
`/usr/share/locale/es/LC_MESSAGES/gtksee.mo': Permission denied
installing es.gmo as /usr/share/locale/es/LC_MESSAGES/gtksee.mo
...
etc

 
  so In your debian/rules using cdbs I guess you have to do that :
 DEB_MAKE_INSTALL_TARGET := install DESTDIR=$(DEB_DESTDIR) prefix=$(DEB_DESTDIR)

ah thanks.
 
   (default is : DEB_MAKE_INSTALL_TARGET := install DESTDIR=$(DEB_DESTDIR) )
 
   it was in the doc, in the section I mentionned to you

i had an offline copy, this was apparent outdated. next time i use the online version.
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Re: package with more than one license: logwatch

2004-07-28 Thread Willi Mann
Frank Küster wrote:
Willi Mann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
For the general problems associated with different licenses in one
package, you might find a look at http://bugs.debian.org/218105
informative. (Although I hope that your package isn't as mixed as
ours). 

Thanks.
Can anyone tell me please if attached copyright file is OK? What I'm unsure 
about is if it's enough to list all the mentioned names in the package or do 
I have to do the painful act of working out who owns a copyright on which of 
 the many scripts?

 That's the way to go. Of course you have to make sure that this is
 legally possible at all (is any linking done?).
Logwatch's language is perl. It mostly does cat logfile | filter1 | filter2 
  | filter3 ... But why do you think, linking would be a problem? Public 
Domain and X11 are both GPL-compatible.

Willi
This package was debianized by Willi Mann [EMAIL PROTECTED] on
Wed, 12 Nov 2003 20:14:15 +0100.

It was downloaded from ftp://ftp.kaybee.org/pub/linux/logwatch-5.1.tar.gz

Logwatch consists of many individual scripts. Most of them were written by
Kirk Bauer [EMAIL PROTECTED], who is also the maintainer of logwatch.

Other authors and contributors:
---

Dariusz Nierada [EMAIL PROTECTED]
David Golden [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Eric Moret [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Fabrizio Zeno Cornelli [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Gerald Teschl [EMAIL PROTECTED]
James Wysynski [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Jim O'Halloran [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Joe Digilio [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Kenneth Porter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Lars Skjærlund [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Luuk de Boer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Luuk de Boer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Manuel Mitnyan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
M. B. Heath [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Michael Romeo [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Michael Stovenour [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Mike Tremaine [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Osma Ahvenlampi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Pawe? Go?aszewski [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Pawel Jarosz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sean Boran [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Simon Liddington [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Simon Liddington [EMAIL PROTECTED]
S. Schimkat www.schimkat.dk
Sven Conrad [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sven Conrad [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Willi Mann [EMAIL PROTECTED]

(Note that this is a semi-autogenerated list. See README.Debian for more information.)

Licenses:
-

Except for a few scripts, logwatch is distributed under the permissive X11 license.

The exceptions:

scripts/services/clamav-milter: GPL
scripts/services/rt314: Public Domain


Text of the licenses:
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X11 license:

-BEGIN LICENSE --
Permission is hereby granted, free of charge, to any person obtaining a copy of
this software and associated documentation files (the Software), to deal in
the Software without restriction, including without limitation the rights to
use, copy, modify, merge, publish, distribute, sublicense, and/or sell copies
of the Software, and to permit persons to whom the Software is furnished to do
so, subject to the following conditions:

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FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE AND NONINFRINGEMENT. IN NO EVENT SHALL THE
AUTHORS OR COPYRIGHT HOLDERS BE LIABLE FOR ANY CLAIM, DAMAGES OR OTHER
LIABILITY, WHETHER IN AN ACTION OF CONTRACT, TORT OR OTHERWISE, ARISING FROM,
OUT OF OR IN CONNECTION WITH THE SOFTWARE OR THE USE OR OTHER DEALINGS IN THE
SOFTWARE.
--END LICENSE--

GPL:

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   it under the terms of the GNU General Public License as published by
   the Free Software Foundation; version 2 dated June, 1991.

   This package is distributed in the hope that it will be useful,
   but WITHOUT ANY WARRANTY; without even the implied warranty of
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Instead of the amd64 GR: rudimentary amd64 support for sarge, need sponsor.

2004-07-28 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Hi,

given the current sarge deadline and the opinions expressed by some of
the release team a full amd64 port in sarge is not going to happen. So
lets move on.


What else can we do for amd64 users?

We have a fully working i386 port which works on amd64 systems too.
What we need most now is support for:

1. Kernel support for amd64 to run 32/64 bit binaries

I want to upload a kernel-image-2.6.7-amd64 to i386. That would be
along the same lines as the sparc64 or s390x kernel image in sparc or
s390 respectively. So nothing new there.

2. Support to run dynamically linked 64 binaries (e.g. from SuSe/RH)

What is needed is a /lib64 and /usr/lib64 directory with the core
libraries. There already is a ia32-libs packages doing the reverse for
ia64 and pure64. This just reverses the roles. Again nothing new.

3. Support to compile 64 bit binaries

The kernel and libs need to be compiled somewhere. They could be build
on pure64 and uploaded to i386 without problems but it would be nicer
if they could be build under sarge i386 itself. This could be eigther
a cross compiler (like the rest of the cross tool packages) or a 64bit
native compiler. I tend to the later even if that restricts building
those packages to an actual amd64 system.

Thesource for the toolchain is already in sarge so no GPL problems
even if (3) is scratched.


So who is willing to sponsor the following packages:

kernel-image-2.6.7-amd64
amd64-libs
amd64-libs-dev
gcc-3.3-amd64
gcc-3.4-amd64
binutils-amd64

None of those are base or standard so there is no must be today
rush. But it still needs to be rushed a bit.

MfG
Goswin


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Re: Instead of the amd64 GR: rudimentary amd64 support for sarge, need sponsor.

2004-07-28 Thread Thiemo Seufer
Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
 Hi,
 
 given the current sarge deadline and the opinions expressed by some of
 the release team a full amd64 port in sarge is not going to happen. So
 lets move on.
 
 
 What else can we do for amd64 users?

What about maintaining a stable repository for amd64 on alioth
alongside the official sarge one?


Thiemo


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Re: Debian vs RedHat init script

2004-07-28 Thread Joey Hess
Adrian 'Dagurashibanipal' von Bidder wrote:
  Thanks for the url. I'm not sure how that solves my problem. As I
  understand you, I need to convince the upstream maintainer to switch
  to LSB style initscript. I can try doing that. The initscript has
 
 Yes, that was my idea - so everybody can use the same init script.

To use lsb init scripts in Debian, you need to have the lsb package
installed. I don't think that we want to have debian packages depending
on lsb, for one thing it pulls in lots of other stuff.

I've also discovered that supposedly lsb compliant distributions violate
its init script policy in various ways which can be quite hard to work
around in an lsb init script, but YMMV there.

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RFS: gbuffy (adopted)

2004-07-28 Thread Adeodato Simó
Hi all,

  I'm looking for a sponsor to upload a new gbuffy version for me. I've
  decided to adopt the gbuffy package since it is in bad shape, I use it
  every day and I wouldn't like it to be removed from Debian. The wnpp
  bug is #242096.

  This version cleans up the packaging a little and, most importantly,
  fixes a nasty segfault (#241371) which makes the package if not
  unusable, at least quite user unfriendly. After this version has
  entered testing, I plan to introduce some features myself, since
  upstream is dead.

  The package description follows, and the changes file is attached. If
  you finally decide to sponsor me, please pass -v0.2.6-5 to debuild
  or dpkg-buildpackage in order to get all un-uploaded versions listed.
  Any other input of course appreciated.

  gbuffy_0.2.6-8 is available in mentors.debian.net:

http://mentors.debian.net/debian/pool/main/g/gbuffy/gbuffy_0.2.6-8.dsc
http://mentors.debian.net/debian/pool/main/g/gbuffy/gbuffy_0.2.6-8.diff.gz

  the orig.tar.gz package may be fetched from any Debian mirror, e.g.:

http://ftp.es.debian.org/debian/pool/main/g/gbuffy/gbuffy_0.2.6.orig.tar.gz

  thanks.

Package: gbuffy
Priority: optional
Section: mail
Version: 0.2.6-8

Description: A GTK+-based, XBuffy-like multiple mailbox biff program
GBuffy will poll multiple mailboxes for new mail. It will list the
number of new messages in each mailbox you configure. It will also
highlight the mailboxes which have new mail. Pressing the left mouse
button on a mailbox with new mail will display the Sender and Subject
of each new message. Additionally, GBuffy will display the X-Face
header for messages which have them. Pressing the middle mouse button
on a mailbox will launch the configured command, generally a command
to read the mailbox with your favorite mailreader. Pressing the right
mouse button will bring up the configure menu.
.
GBuffy is currently capable of watching MBOX, MMDF, Maildir and MH
Folders. This version also supports IMAP4rev1 and NNTP with XOVER
mailboxes. Support for an external program for notification is
planned.

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Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 05:26:16 +0200
Source: gbuffy
Binary: gbuffy
Architecture: source i386
Version: 0.2.6-8
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Adeodato Simó [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Changed-By: Adeodato Simó [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Description: 
 gbuffy - A GTK+-based, XBuffy-like multiple mailbox biff program
Closes: 241371 241372 242096
Changes: 
 gbuffy (0.2.6-8) unstable; urgency=low
 .
   * debian/rules:
 - wipe out commented stuff for building gbuffy-gnome.
 - move DH_COMPAT to debian/compat.
 - general cleanup.
   * removed debian/gbuffy{_applet.desktop,-gnome.menu,.gnorba}.
   * debian/copyright: added copyright notice for files from mutt.
   * debian/control: list myself as the package maintainer. (Closes: #242096)
 .
 gbuffy (0.2.6-7) unstable; urgency=low
 .
   * debian/patches: removed 20_convert-charset, which is quite untested, in
 order to make a version suitable to enter sarge and stay there for quite a
 long time.
   * debian/control: removed Build-Depends on xlibs-dev.
 .
 gbuffy (0.2.6-6) unstable; urgency=low
 .
   * debian/control:
 + remove obsolete Build-Depends on libgnome-dev, since the gnome version
   is no longer built.
 + bumped Standards-Version to 3.6.1 (no changes required).
   * debian/patches/:
 + updated 10_libwings to avoid crashing after adding a new mailbox.
   (Closes: #241371, #241372)
 + added 20_convert-charset, to convert RFC 2047 decoded strings to the
   local charset (scratch-an-itch patch).
   * debian/copyright: updated download URL.
   * debian/menu: use the full path in the command.
Files: 
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