Re: RFS: anagramarama - fast paced anagram puzzle game using SDL

2005-01-18 Thread Ryan Stutsman
On Tue, 2005-01-18 at 14:27 +0100, Bartosz Fenski aka fEnIo wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 18, 2005 at 07:53:06AM -0500, Ryan Stutsman wrote:
> > Any takers?  It's a very simple package.
> 
> Didn't you think about splitting it to two packages?
> Consider that Debian supports 11 archs right now.

I have considered it; however, the reason for the size is because of a
couple of BMP files I'm hoping to have them convert to PNG files
upstream which should cut down significantly.

After looking at it more I found not all of the images in the source
directory are used in the code so I removed them from the make install
which knocks the file down to under 200 KB.

Once I am sure of what the intentions are for the next release upstream
I will decide whether to split the package or not.  It's possible I
could get the package to be even smaller working with the authors a bit.

> Your package is 800k big.
> 
> 11 * 800k = 8,8M
> 
> Using one binary dependent package + one independent that would be:
> 
> 11 * 30k + 770k = ~ 1MB
> 
> I know it's not very much, but Debian's archives are very big and overloaded, 
> and we should search for savings everywhere ;)
> 
> Also remove your README.Debian file, cause it is not saying anything
> interested and related to Debian.

This is done.

> 
> regards
> fEnIo

Thanks for taking the time to look at it and for the suggestions.
Please take another look if time allows!

Ryan


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Re: RFS: (2nd try) bmon - Command-line bandwidth monitor and rate estimator

2005-01-18 Thread Reto Schuettel
Hi Sven

On Tue, Jan 18, 2005 at 06:01:03PM +0100, Sven Mueller wrote:
> >According to the developer static linking isn't possible. Anyway, the
> >feature isn't that important, I hope I can integrate it in a later
> >version.
> 
> I would file an RFP: libnl at least. Maybe someone else picks it up and 
> creates the libnl package for you. Then it would simply be a matter of 
> Build-Depends/Depends to add the libnl dependent features.

Good idea, I'll do that.

Thanks!
Reto Schüttel


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Re: RFS: (2nd try) bmon - Command-line bandwidth monitor and rate estimator

2005-01-18 Thread Reto Schuettel
On Sun, Jan 16, 2005 at 09:38:43PM +0100, Reto Schuettel wrote:
> I'm still looking for a sponsor for bmon. 

Finally I found somebody :). Christoph Haas has sponsored the package (thanks!).

Thanks for the help!

Reto Schüttel


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Re: RFS: (2nd try) bmon - Command-line bandwidth monitor and rate estimator

2005-01-18 Thread Sven Mueller
Reto Schuettel wrote on 17/01/2005 12:48:
Hi Simon
On Mon, Jan 17, 2005 at 12:22:04PM +0100, Simon Richter wrote:
You could package a static build of libnl and omit the shared library, 
which is usually the way to go with unstable ABIs.

According to the developer static linking isn't possible. Anyway, the
feature isn't that important, I hope I can integrate it in a later
version.
I would file an RFP: libnl at least. Maybe someone else picks it up and 
creates the libnl package for you. Then it would simply be a matter of 
Build-Depends/Depends to add the libnl dependent features.

cu,
sven
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Re: RFS: anagramarama - fast paced anagram puzzle game using SDL

2005-01-18 Thread Bartosz Fenski aka fEnIo
On Tue, Jan 18, 2005 at 07:53:06AM -0500, Ryan Stutsman wrote:
> Any takers?  It's a very simple package.

Didn't you think about splitting it to two packages?
Consider that Debian supports 11 archs right now.

Your package is 800k big.

11 * 800k = 8,8M

Using one binary dependent package + one independent that would be:

11 * 30k + 770k = ~ 1MB

I know it's not very much, but Debian's archives are very big and overloaded, 
and we should search for savings everywhere ;)

Also remove your README.Debian file, cause it is not saying anything
interested and related to Debian.

regards
fEnIo
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Re: RFS: anagramarama - fast paced anagram puzzle game using SDL

2005-01-18 Thread Ryan Stutsman
Any takers?  It's a very simple package.

On Sat, 2005-01-15 at 22:10 -0500, Ryan Stutsman wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I've been through a few iterations with this package on this list
> implementing suggestions.
> 
> Please have a look at the latest incarnation if you could, and give me
> any feedback.
> 
> Hopefully I'm getting closer ;)
> 
> Binary and source pkgs available at
> 
> http://www.cs.purdue.edu/homes/rstutsma/debian/
> 
> Thanks much,
> 
> Ryan
> 
> 


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Re: best way to announce important changes

2005-01-18 Thread Frank Küster
Christoph Wegscheider <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi,
> I maintain the rsnapshot package, which is a perl script for backups.
>
> In the next upstream version there will be changes which WILL break
> almost all setups. One has to modify the conf file to avoid that. 

Is it a conffile or just a configuration file?

> According to the developer reference (6.3.4) such changes should be
> mentioned in the News.Debian file. I think that's not enough, because
> if one doesn't change the conf file rsnapshot will not fail, but will
> do things (most likely) not wanted by the user. Therefor I intend do
> show a warning with debconf. 

Depending on the severity of "not wanted", you could simply disable the
script until the configuration file has been fixed.

Regards, Frank
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Debian Developer



Re: best way to announce important changes

2005-01-18 Thread Steve Langasek
On Tue, Jan 18, 2005 at 10:00:08AM +0100, Christoph Wegscheider wrote:
> I maintain the rsnapshot package, which is a perl script for backups.

> In the next upstream version there will be changes which WILL break
> almost all setups. One has to modify the conf file to avoid that. 

> According to the developer reference (6.3.4) such changes should be
> mentioned in the News.Debian file. I think that's not enough, because
> if one doesn't change the conf file rsnapshot will not fail, but will
> do things (most likely) not wanted by the user. Therefor I intend do
> show a warning with debconf. 

> Are there better solutions?

Fix your package so that on upgrade, it properly updates the config file so
that it *doesn't* do things not wanted by the user!

Neither debconf notes nor NEWS.Debian are an excuse to break a user's
system.  If you're breaking a config interface and it is possible to migrate
old settings to the new (i.e., you don't have to worry about user config
files scattered through various home directories), there is no reason not to
do so.  Rather, these are the enhancements that explain *why* people choose
Debian.

If for some reason this isn't possible, then and only then should you use
NEWS.Debian to document the issue.  But not a debconf note -- debconf notes
are not and never were intended for this.

-- 
Steve Langasek
postmodern programmer


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Re: best way to announce important changes

2005-01-18 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Tue, Jan 18, 2005 at 10:00:08AM +0100, Christoph Wegscheider wrote:
> According to the developer reference (6.3.4) such changes should be
> mentioned in the News.Debian file. I think that's not enough, because
> if one doesn't change the conf file rsnapshot will not fail, but will
> do things (most likely) not wanted by the user. Therefor I intend do
> show a warning with debconf. 

Don't bother with the Debconf stuff.  Put it in NEWS.Debian and
README.Debian.  If the config file has really changed in that way, then move
it out of the way, and ensure that the program will bomb (possibly with an
appropriate error message) in the absence of the config file.

- Matt


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best way to announce important changes

2005-01-18 Thread Christoph Wegscheider
Hi,
I maintain the rsnapshot package, which is a perl script for backups.

In the next upstream version there will be changes which WILL break
almost all setups. One has to modify the conf file to avoid that. 

According to the developer reference (6.3.4) such changes should be
mentioned in the News.Debian file. I think that's not enough, because
if one doesn't change the conf file rsnapshot will not fail, but will
do things (most likely) not wanted by the user. Therefor I intend do
show a warning with debconf. 

Are there better solutions?

Thx
Christoph


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