RFS: windowlab -- Small and simple Amiga-like window manager

2006-01-27 Thread Stan Vasilyev
Package: windowlab
Short Description: Small and simple Amiga-like window manager
Version Packaged: 1.33-2
Version in Debian: 1.33-1

WindowLab is a Window Manager for the X Window System. Features include 
click-to-focus, a simple menu/taskbar combination and integration with Debian 
menu system. WindowLab is incredibly fast and small. 

This release introduces preliminary support for the Debian menu system. More 
Debian-integration features are coming soon. The package was given an 
overhaul with CDBS and a simple patch system.

Debian Sources: http://mentors.debian.net/debian/pool/main/w/windowlab/


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Re: ITP vexim

2006-01-27 Thread Marc Haber
On Thu, 26 Jan 2006 14:11:27 +0100, Daniel Knabl
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Einst schrieb Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
* postinst is sometimes called with other values (*not* only
  configure). Though these are perfectly OK, your postinst script will
  fail.

Could you describe what you exactly think about? (so that I can imagine
what would happen ... and learn from this)

How many times have you been pointed to Debian policy?

And you are still asking questions that neatly show that you didn't
read it? And that also neatly show that you have never looked at other
packages?

Greetings
Marc

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Re: ITP vexim

2006-01-27 Thread Daniel Knabl
Am Fri, 27 Jan 2006 10:44:47 +0100 schrieb Marc Haber
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 How many times have you been pointed to Debian policy?

Do you mean after I already read it? Then the answer is too many
times...

 And you are still asking questions that neatly show that you didn't
 read it? And that also neatly show that you have never looked at other
 packages?

Maybe my question was confusing, that's possible.
As I understand the policy, in details the chapters 6.6, 6.6 and 6.7,
there have to be some actions performed on various targets of the files.

The main target in postinst, when someone initially installs the
software, is configure, and in postrm, when someone purges it, it is
purge. For these two targets I found examples by looking at some
other packages (phpmyadmin, album, ...) that do very similar things. And
I implemented those actions to be performed also in my scripts.

Now it seems, that I should also perform actions on some targets that
do not get used in real installation process: who should upgrade the
package, when there has never been a version of it before?
Who should downgrade the package (to a non-existent version before)? I
did some tests (installing, removing,purging ...) and there was no
unexpected behavior.

So now I don't understand, really NOT understand, what you are
complaining about? Is it because I want to release a piece of software
that you don't like? Is it because of me as person?
If there's any other place where I could ask, not just if there has
something to be done, but what in special case has to be done, then
please pint me over there. No problem for me to getting told that this
is the wrong list too, but anyone should even tell me then ...

I followed your suggestions not to ask on debian-devel, and i have read
the policy more often now, especially the chapters 6.5 to 6.7 about
control files and their behavior, but there are still questions that
affect the actual state of the package.

 Greetings
 Marc

Peace
  Daniel

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Re: [Update] Re: What to do if the upstream keeps debian directory in original tarball?

2006-01-27 Thread Bas Wijnen
On Thu, Jan 26, 2006 at 07:30:22PM -0800, Stan Vasilyev wrote:
 From the last e-mail I got from Thierry it looks like he wants to make a 
 compromise. Since I annoyed him so much with my e-mails, he proposed to start 
 releasing Xdialog in two versions: Xdialog-version.tar.bz2 file with debian 
 directory and Xdialog-version.orig.tar.gz without the debian directory. Is 
 that such a good idea?

I don't see a reason to have a version with a debian directory, but if he
insists on having that, this sounds like a good compromise.

 At this point he thinks that Debian developers are a bunch of political 
 fanatics who only care about the holy Debian Policy Manual and don't care 
 about other distros. Oh, misunderstandings...

Well, some of us[1] are. ;-)  Anyway, personally I think that Debian users
benefit a lot from the policy, because they know what to expect from packages.
I really don't see why the (unwritten) policy of don't bother others with
your distribution-specific stuff is offensive for those others.[2]

Well, it would be nice if you could make him think less negative about us. :-)
You seem to be doing a good job at least in getting results.  Keep it up!

Thanks,
Bas

[1] I'm not an official Debian Developer, but I do consider myself a Debian
developer (mind the lowercase 'd').
[2] Note that I do think having a debian directory in cvs (or svn, or whatever
they use) is useful, if it is maintained.  It just shouldn't be in the release
tarball.

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Re: ITP vexim

2006-01-27 Thread Stephen Gran
This one time, at band camp, Daniel Knabl said:
 Am Fri, 27 Jan 2006 10:44:47 +0100 schrieb Marc Haber
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 
  How many times have you been pointed to Debian policy?
 
 Do you mean after I already read it? Then the answer is too many
 times...
 
  And you are still asking questions that neatly show that you didn't
  read it? And that also neatly show that you have never looked at other
  packages?
 
 Maybe my question was confusing, that's possible.
 As I understand the policy, in details the chapters 6.6, 6.6 and 6.7,
 there have to be some actions performed on various targets of the files.
 
 The main target in postinst, when someone initially installs the
 software, is configure, and in postrm, when someone purges it, it is
 purge. For these two targets I found examples by looking at some
 other packages (phpmyadmin, album, ...) that do very similar things. And
 I implemented those actions to be performed also in my scripts.
 
 Now it seems, that I should also perform actions on some targets that
 do not get used in real installation process: who should upgrade the
 package, when there has never been a version of it before?
 Who should downgrade the package (to a non-existent version before)? I
 did some tests (installing, removing,purging ...) and there was no
 unexpected behavior.

Disclaimer: I have not looked at your packaging.

The standard way to do this sort of thing is look through the reference
for all the arguments your script can be called with, and handle them.

so something like:
case $1 in 
  configure)
do_something 
;;
  targets|you|could|be|called|with)
;;
  *)
echo Unknown arg $1 2
exit 1
;;
esac

What it seems like you are missing is that Debian does not work in
isolation.  Other distributions like Knoppix and Ubuntu and many others
reuse the work of Debian developers, and making your maintainer scripts
as robust as possible will help them as well as you.  At the moment,
there are no Debian packaged versions of vexim, so why have an upgrade
target, right?  Well, presumably you will add a new version at some
point, and then you'll have to handle the upgrade and downgrade targets.
Knoppix may in the meantime have added a new version before you get to
it, and forgot to check the maintainer scripts you wrote - bang, all the
upgrades on Knoppix fail.

Since it's not that hard to follow the recommendations of policy, and to
future proof your work, why not just do it?  I agree, Marc is being a
little combative (I assume you've struck a nerve with him), but it does
sound from the outside like you've still some way to go on this.
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Re: RFS: dsbltesters

2006-01-27 Thread Al Nikolov
отправлено в группы и по почте

Christoph Haas wrote:

  - Please close the WNPP bug 273204 which you opened yourself
one and a half year ago.

 Ok, i'll close it.

 I assumed though that ITP should be closed after that the package was
 become ready and was appeared in the pool. I'm i wrong?
 
 Please use the debian/changelog to close it.

http://www.de.debian.org/doc/manuals/developers-reference/ch-pkgs.en.html#s-upload-bugfix

Yes, that's better.

 
  - The copyright file should contain the years of copyright.

 Ok, i'll fix that.

 BTW i see many copyright files in Debian packages whitout (c)year lines.
 Is it actually a violation?
 

http://groups.google.de/group/linux.debian.announce.devel/browse_frm/thread/ee00935883c7bec2/5326ec35388edb3c

IMHO, the Debian Policy really should be more exacting.

  - There has been long time no change. Did you contact the upstream
to make sure the software is still maintained?

 This piece of software is developed and distributed by dsbl.org project
 which acts as great free network service. I have no doubt, the software
 is pretty _useful_ as one of methods to open proxy/relay reliable
 testing and it's included in FreeBSD ports collection. Should i care if
 it wasn't updated for 2 years?
 
 The main concern is that security bugs may come up. And in that case the
 upstream should jump in quickly and help to fix it. If the upstream
 software became unmaintained then the situation may lead to the removal of
 the package.
 
 It's okay if the last update is a year ago. I just wanted to make sure you
 talked to the upstream at least once.

Waiting for the answer.

  - The package is not lintian clean. Three issues there.

 Do you mean issues above or something other? I saw only one:

 $ lintian dsbltesters_0.9.5-1.dsc
 W: dsbltesters source: out-of-date-standards-version 3.6.1
 
 I got these messages:
 
 W: dsbltesters source: out-of-date-standards-version 3.6.1
 E: dsbltesters: file-in-etc-not-marked-as-conffile /etc/dsbl.conf
 W: dsbltesters: old-fsf-address-in-copyright-file

 Could you be so kind to check dsbltesters_0.9.5-2?
 
 Just did. Still not lintian clean. Did you use a current Sid (unstable)
 installation to build the package? These are the remaning messages:
 
 E: dsbltesters: file-in-etc-not-marked-as-conffile /etc/dsbl.conf
 W: dsbltesters: old-fsf-address-in-copyright-file
 
 Please make sure your package are lintian-clean.

Hmm... The history follows.

I made built package checks under my usual system (testing), and now i see
that it should be produced in pbuilder environment. I just added linda- and
lintian-hooks to pbuilder (DISTRIBUTION=testing). They reports:

Setting up linda (0.3.17) ...

Linda: Running as root, dropping to nobody.
E: dsbltesters; dsbl.conf is in /etc, but not marked as a conffile.

Setting up lintian (1.23.14) ...

E: dsbltesters: file-in-etc-not-marked-as-conffile /etc/dsbl.conf
W: dsbltesters: old-fsf-address-in-copyright-file

To me, it's a kind of magic, because i use up-to-date etch system and
certanly same linda/lintian versions as for pbuilder environment. How come
the difference?

Anyway, now, pbuilder environment was upgraded for sid and next release
should be lintian-clean. Be so nice, look at dsbl-testers_0.9.5-3...

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Re: [Update] Re: What to do if the upstream keeps debian directory in original tarball?

2006-01-27 Thread Daniel Leidert
Am Donnerstag, den 26.01.2006, 19:30 -0800 schrieb Stan Vasilyev:
 On Tuesday 24 January 2006 13:14, Stan Vasilyev wrote:
  I have a situation with a Debian package xdialog:
  http://packages.qa.debian.org/x/xdialog.html
 
  The upstream author, Thierry Godefroy [EMAIL PROTECTED], insists on 
  keeping
  the debian changes inside the upstream tarball, orig.tar.gz. This
  complicates the development process. First of all, when he makes a new
  version of xdialog, he sends it to the Debian maintainer (me). I then have
  to make changes to the debian directory and send him the changes. Finally,
  he releases the new upstream with Debian changes already included.
 
 From the last e-mail I got from Thierry it looks like he wants to make a 
 compromise. Since I annoyed him so much with my e-mails, he proposed to start 
 releasing Xdialog in two versions: Xdialog-version.tar.bz2 file with debian 
 directory and Xdialog-version.orig.tar.gz without the debian directory. Is 
 that such a good idea?

It's a compromise with more work for him.

 At this point he thinks that Debian developers are a bunch of political 
 fanatics who only care about the holy Debian Policy Manual and don't care 
 about other distros.

Why we don't care about other distros? The Debian packaging files you
wrote are based on your decisions for Debian _only_, not for all Debian
based distributions. So forcing others to use your packaging files is
what I call don't care about other distributions. Or whyy should the
source package on RedHat or Mandriva contain the Debian packaging files?
They are completely useless there but they increase the archive size.

I really don't understand this position. 

Regards, Daniel


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Re: ITP vexim

2006-01-27 Thread Frank Küster
Daniel Knabl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 The main target in postinst, when someone initially installs the
 software, is configure, 

No, not only upon initially installing it.  On every upgrade.

 and in postrm, when someone purges it, it is
 purge. 

No, if the package is purged, postrm is called twice, with different
arguments.  And it's also called when the package is upgraded or
removed.

 Now it seems, that I should also perform actions on some targets that

As I understood Marc, you did some actions unconditionally, no matter
what the first argument is (that seems to be fixed now), and some in
configure unconditionally on the second argument that should not be
performed upon upgrade.  This you still do.

Err, and you keep configuration files in /usr/share.

 do not get used in real installation process: who should upgrade the
 package, when there has never been a version of it before?

The package could be in state rc.  

 Who should downgrade the package (to a non-existent version before)? I
 did some tests (installing, removing,purging ...) and there was no
 unexpected behavior.

 So now I don't understand, really NOT understand, what you are
 complaining about? Is it because I want to release a piece of software
 that you don't like? 

It's a software whose quality I cannot judge, but the quality of the
packaging is not fit for Debian.

 Is it because of me as person?
 If there's any other place where I could ask, not just if there has
 something to be done, but what in special case has to be done, then
 please pint me over there. No problem for me to getting told that this
 is the wrong list too, but anyone should even tell me then ...

It's the right list for asking questions after you've tried to
understand the Debian policy, and consulted the Developer's reference
where Policy is unclear to you.  But it seems you haven't read the
policy, or 

 I followed your suggestions not to ask on debian-devel, and i have read
 the policy more often now, especially the chapters 6.5 to 6.7 about
 control files and their behavior, but there are still questions that
 affect the actual state of the package.

you didn't understand it.  Sections 6.5 to 6.7 deal with the
installation procedure and maintainer scripts.  Control files only exist
in the source package.  And what you wrote above about postinst and
postrm can also easily be shown to be false (or at least incomplete) by
looking at these sections.

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Re: ITP vexim

2006-01-27 Thread Daniel Knabl
Am Fri, 27 Jan 2006 11:37:42 + schrieb Stephen Gran
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Disclaimer: I have not looked at your packaging.
 
 The standard way to do this sort of thing is look through the
 reference for all the arguments your script can be called with, and
 handle them.
 
 so something like:
 case $1 in 
   configure)
 do_something 
 ;;
   targets|you|could|be|called|with)
 ;;
   *)
 echo Unknown arg $1 2
 exit 1
 ;;
 esac

That's what I actually did. Decide on the target and go on... 

 What it seems like you are missing is that Debian does not work in
 isolation.  Other distributions like Knoppix and Ubuntu and many
 others reuse the work of Debian developers, and making your
 maintainer scripts as robust as possible will help them as well as
 you.  At the moment, there are no Debian packaged versions of vexim,
 so why have an upgrade target, right?

So if there is nothing to be done before an upgrade, there has to be no
action performed in prerm's target upgrade, is it ok that way? I
really would like to get it working.

 Well, presumably you will add
 a new version at some point, and then you'll have to handle the
 upgrade and downgrade targets. Knoppix may in the meantime have added
 a new version before you get to it, and forgot to check the
 maintainer scripts you wrote - bang, all the upgrades on Knoppix fail.

Would it be a good new version if they did not care about the
manitainer scripts? Of course my scripts also need some work, still.
But I always thought, that they (knoppix, ubuntu...) took our
packages and modified them to fit their needs, not the other way.

While I'm in a quite good cooperation with the upstream author, I think
that new versions will be released not quite too often, and until
something changes in a larger amount, there will just be some
enhancements and minor bugfixes. For example in the php-section of the
package, but not in the sql layout or the basic behavior (system user,
mysql user, ...).
Would it be a good idea to outsource the database creation to a script
the user has to invoke manually? So maybe the maintainer script could
become a little bit smaller, and would not be possible to be
overwritten by accident. 

 Since it's not that hard to follow the recommendations of policy, and
 to future proof your work, why not just do it?  I agree, Marc is
 being a little combative (I assume you've struck a nerve with him),
 but it does sound from the outside like you've still some way to go
 on this. 

I am confident to get this piece of software packaged the right way
within some time, maybe within the next month. This will include,
maybe completely, redesign of my scripts. And your answer is a kind of
medicine for me at this point. Maybe i would have started to think,
that it is a personal conflict, or worse, that this software is not
welcome in the Debian distribution.

If my questions and requests for help are really that much pain for
Marc, then I would kindly his pardon. It was NOT my intent to get
others doing my work, but sometimes there are so many things at the
same time, that cause confusion. In short: If my questions are a pain,
and you think still, that I dind't read the domcumentation and policy,
then try even not to answer, at least no every time read the policy,
why didn't you. And I'll promise not to ask more often than really
needed.

many thanks
  Daniel

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Custom Debian CD.

2006-01-27 Thread Derek \The Monkey\ Wueppelmann
I have created my own custom Debian installer CD based on the debian
net-inst cd image. I modified the local repository to include some
additional packages I would like to have installed by default. I then
reburned the iso and installed the system. Everything works perfectly
until I try to install sendmail. I get the following error:

# apt-get install sendmail
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... Done
Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
or been moved out of Incoming.

Since you only requested a single operation it is extremely likely that
the package is simply not installable and a bug report against
that package should be filed.
The following information may help to resolve the situation:

The following packages have unmet dependencies:
  exim4-base: Depends: exim4-config (= 4.30) but it is not going to be
installed or
   exim4-config-2
E: Broken packages

If I change my sources to a full debian repository this works perfectly
without any errors. Also if I do a:

apt-get remove --purge exim4-base

then the apt-get install sendmail command works perfectly well. Did I
mess something up in creating the Packages file? Does anybody know what
I'm missing? If you need more information just let me know. This problem
has me really stumped.

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Re: [RFS] OptiPNG - advanced PNG (Portable Network Graphics) optimizer

2006-01-27 Thread Bernhard R. Link
* Nelson A. de Oliveira [EMAIL PROTECTED] [060126 17:16]:
 I am searching for a sponsor for OptiPNG.
 
 Files can be obtained from:
 http://biolinux.df.ibilce.unesp.br/naoliv/optipng/ and it will close
 ITP #347993.

I won't sponser it myself, as I do not understand cdbs, but some hints:

It does not compile with -g and is linked with -s.
The later because you miss to give it proper LDFLAGS (i.e. without -s)
the first because the Makefile is called with those in the environment
CFLAGS=-g -Wall -O2 CXXFLAGS=-g -Wall -O2 make  -f scripts/gcc-syslib.mak
but it overwrites them with
CFLAGS  = -O2 -Wall
LDFLAGS = -s

The easiest way is to simply put them after the call to make. (and place
a LDFLAGS= there fixed the other problem, too).
that is instead of CFLAGS=bla make do a make CFLAGS=bla LDFLAGS=

Things like lintian or linda cannot catch this, as the binaries are
stripped by dh_strip so the resulting binaries do not differ, but if
anyone has a problem with your program and wants to build and debug it,
he first has to patch the Makefile to get the correct flags.
For further reference see section 10.1 of the policy.

Hochachtungsvoll,
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Re: ITP vexim

2006-01-27 Thread Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt
Daniel Knabl [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 The main target in postinst, when someone initially installs the
 software, is configure, and in postrm, when someone purges it, it is
 purge. For these two targets I found examples by looking at some
 other packages (phpmyadmin, album, ...) that do very similar things. And
 I implemented those actions to be performed also in my scripts.

Yes. The problem is that the Debian policy specifies other targets in
the maintainer script. Normally, most people don't implement them and do
a 'abort-upgrade|bla|baz) #do nothing'. You don't do so, your maintainer
scripts simply FAIL when they're called with another argument than
postinst. That shouldn't happen if the actions did not fail.

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RFS: pyme

2006-01-27 Thread Arnaud Fontaine
Hello,

I need a sponsor for pyme package. My previous sponsor doesn't have the
time currently to review the package i have made.

* Package name: pyme
  Version : 0.7.0
  Upstream Author : Igor Belyi belyi.users.sourceforge.net
* URL : http://sourceforge.net/projects/pyme/
* License : LGPL
  Description : Python interface to the GPGME GnuPG encryption
  library

 Pyme is, for the most part, a direct interface to the C GPGME
 library.  However, it is re-packaged in a more Pythonic way --
 object-oriented with classes and modules.  Take a look at the classes
 defined here -- they correspond directly to certain object types in
 GPGME
 for C.
 .
 Features:
   * Feature-rich, full implementation of the GPGME library.  Supports
 all GPGME features except interactive editing (coming soon).
 Callback functions may be written in pure Python.
   * Ability to sign, encrypt, decrypt, and verify data.
   * Ability to list keys, export and import keys, and manage the
 keyring.
   * Fully object-oriented with convenient classes and modules.


I have put the source package here :
https://velma.mini-dweeb.org/~arnau/deb/official/

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Re: ITP vexim

2006-01-27 Thread Daniel Knabl
Am Fri, 27 Jan 2006 17:27:09 +0100 schrieb Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Yes. The problem is that the Debian policy specifies other targets in
 the maintainer script. Normally, most people don't implement them and
 do a 'abort-upgrade|bla|baz) #do nothing'. You don't do so, your
 maintainer scripts simply FAIL when they're called with another
 argument than postinst. That shouldn't happen if the actions did not
 fail.
 
 Marc

I have made the changes according to the policy already.
Besides this errors did you find any others?

Thanks
  Daniel

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Re: create password in postinst

2006-01-27 Thread Nicolas François
Hello,

You can look at debian/passwd.config in the passwd package for a solution
written in perl.

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Re: ITP vexim

2006-01-27 Thread Justin Pryzby
Could you please build your package as nonnative, and preferrably
pristine?  Otherwise I don't know where to start looking at your work.

nonnative means that an .orig.tar.gz of the expected name exists in
the parent directory, and pristine means that the tarball is identical
to upstreams (not just the contents).

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RFS: proxycheck

2006-01-27 Thread Al Nikolov
Hi, there

I'm seekig for new sponsor of existing package.

Package: proxycheck
Description: checks existence of open proxy
License: GPL
URL: http://www.corpit.ru/mjt/proxycheck.html
Upstream Author: Michael Tokarev

proxycheck is a simple tool that will work on a reasonable *nix system
and may be used to quickly check whenever a given host or set of hosts
has open proxy server running

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Re: RFS: proxycheck -- link

2006-01-27 Thread Al Nikolov
Al Nikolov wrote:

Excuse me, forgot link to

http://mentors.debian.net/debian/pool/main/p/proxycheck/

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Re: ITP vexim

2006-01-27 Thread Daniel Knabl
Am Fri, 27 Jan 2006 13:24:49 -0500 schrieb Justin Pryzby
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 Could you please build your package as nonnative, and preferrably
 pristine?  Otherwise I don't know where to start looking at your work.
 
 nonnative means that an .orig.tar.gz of the expected name exists in
 the parent directory, and pristine means that the tarball is identical
 to upstreams (not just the contents).

Sorry, my mistake. I had to remove CVS dirs from the tarball. Now this
should be correct. At the moment I'm changing the scripts to use
dbconfig-common. It seems to be a very good framework.

After all the changes are made, I will rebuild the package with a new
version number. If you could have a look at it then, this would be a
great help. In short: Do not waste your time right now. 

 Clear skies,
 Justin

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Re: ITP vexim

2006-01-27 Thread justin
On Fri, Jan 27, 2006 at 10:09:56PM +0100, Daniel Knabl wrote:
 Am Fri, 27 Jan 2006 13:24:49 -0500 schrieb Justin Pryzby
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  Could you please build your package as nonnative, and preferrably
  pristine?  Otherwise I don't know where to start looking at your work.
  
  nonnative means that an .orig.tar.gz of the expected name exists in
  the parent directory, and pristine means that the tarball is identical
  to upstreams (not just the contents).
 
 Sorry, my mistake. I had to remove CVS dirs from the tarball. Now this
 should be correct.
Thats not a sufficient reason to repack the tarball; it is more
important that it is pristine (if applicable).  Perhaps the clean
target can remove them, and then you don't have to look at them nearly
as much (instead, the dpkg: foo was removed warnings, though).

Justin


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Re: ITP vexim

2006-01-27 Thread Daniel Knabl
Am Fri, 27 Jan 2006 16:21:47 -0500 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Thats not a sufficient reason to repack the tarball; it is more
 important that it is pristine (if applicable).  Perhaps the clean
 target can remove them, and then you don't have to look at them nearly
 as much (instead, the dpkg: foo was removed warnings, though).

Would you suggest to simply do (in the clean target)

  find . -depth -name CVS -exec rm -r {} \;

and not to care about the blah was removed messages?

 Justin

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Re: ITP vexim

2006-01-27 Thread Daniel Knabl
Am Fri, 27 Jan 2006 18:08:38 -0500 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Nearly all Debian packages should be pristine; if you can do that, you
 should.  If upstream *only* exists in CVS, then you can't really, and
 you can run that command before creating your orig tarball.  If
 upstream has a real tarball, though, then please use it :)

The upstream tarball is beeing built daily from CVS, but always
includes CVS dirs. 

 OTOH, lintian will still warn CVS dir in sourceball, so you might
 not even both running such a command, and minimize your warnings..

Would it then be OK to remove the CVS dirs, or should I just not care
about the lintin warnings? I thought, that it would be ok to remove :/

 Justin

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What should I do about unresponsive maintainer?

2006-01-27 Thread Matej Cepl
Hi,

I know it is not question for this group, but maybe I would love to know
what will happen to me, if I will behave as a maintainer of wvdial, which
let bug# 316575 without response for 210 days :-).

Thanks a lot for the answer,

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Re: What should I do about unresponsive maintainer?

2006-01-27 Thread justin
On Fri, Jan 27, 2006 at 10:18:42PM -0500, Matej Cepl wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I know it is not question for this group, but maybe I would love to know
 what will happen to me, if I will behave as a maintainer of wvdial, which
 let bug# 316575 without response for 210 days :-).
This is the realm of the QA group, which deals with MIA maintainers,
package removals, and orphaned packages.  In the case of a single
forgotten bug, it makes sense to just email the maintainer again,
unless you specifically check that they appear to be inactive, by
checking other bugs on their packages, recent uploads, NMUs, etc.  A
helpful resource is:

  http://haydn.debian.org/~thuriaux-guest/qa/mia.html
  (a 2.3 MB html, be forewarned).

In this case, the maintainer seems active (Last upload: 2006-01-22),
although I'm a bit surprised by rutebook 2002-06-20.  I'll also note
than it is essentially always useful to post a patch to the bug report
:)

Justin


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Re: What should I do about unresponsive maintainer?

2006-01-27 Thread Thomas Viehmann
Matej Cepl wrote:
 I know it is not question for this group, but maybe I would love to know
 what will happen to me, if I will behave as a maintainer of wvdial, which
 let bug# 316575 without response for 210 days :-).
You could send a (friendly) reminder and inquiry to the bug report
([EMAIL PROTECTED]). Sometimes bugs get overlooked.
It's important to send such mails via the BTS for better documentation.

Kind regards

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