Re: C Tutorial ?
Hello Roger, Am 2006-05-07 00:23:32, schrieb Roger Leigh: Note that programming GTK+ in C is not C programming, it's GObject Right, but... programming. This requires that you know not only about how objects are implemented on a fundamental level by the C++ compiler (virtual method despatch with vtables, typeinfo, inheritance, polymorphism, RTTI etc.), but how to re-implement these concepts in C. And, in addition, several features from smalltalk such as properties. With the GTK+ 2.0 Tutorial found in Debian it is easy to create Dialogs, even without knowledge about C... It was realy crazy, as Laila had send me a hand full files which I have compiled on my machine... It just works. She had understood un around 2 days HOW GTK+ is working... She know allready how to use evenst and something like this. If your daughter wants to learn C, that's great, but GTK+ isn't really She want to code stuff for the console using slang-utf8 and ncursesw and then some Front-Ends in GTK. what you do first with C; it's what you do once you've mastered C *and* C++, and then decided to use C instead. I.e. it's not something Why C++ if she do not need it? you would want to intimidate a beginner with (or many experienced programmers!), and is not generally a good choice. If it was me, I'd stay with PyGTK! Oh, I use GTK with PHP/Tcl and now I am switching from this crappy wxwindows to GTK, wich works 100 times better. If she still wants to learn to use GTK+, she might find this useful: http://people.debian.org/~rleigh/gtk/ogcalc/ (PDF and source code examples) We will check it out in the next days... Thanks Michelle Konzack -- Linux-User #280138 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org/ # Debian GNU/Linux Consultant # Michelle Konzack Apt. 917 ICQ #328449886 50, rue de Soultz MSM LinuxMichi 0033/3/8845235667100 Strasbourg/France IRC #Debian (irc.icq.com) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: C Tutorial ?
On 5/10/06, Michelle Konzack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why C++ if she do not need it? That sounds like the wrong question. It's not like needing a computer, you could just use your calculator.
Re: C Tutorial ?
Il giorno gio, 11/05/2006 alle 19.16 +0200, Olaf van der Spek ha scritto: On 5/10/06, Michelle Konzack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why C++ if she do not need it? That sounds like the wrong question. It's not like needing a computer, you could just use your calculator. Nah she's right: Note that programming GTK+ in C is not C programming, it's GObject programming. This requires that you know not only about how objects are implemented on a fundamental level by the C++ compiler (virtual method despatch with vtables, typeinfo, inheritance, polymorphism, RTTI etc.), but how to re-implement these concepts in C. And, in addition, several features from smalltalk such as properties. I don't think that C++ is really _needed_ to learn basic GTK+ programming. Of course if you know all the low-level implementation of classes/objects things will be much clearer, but it's not crucial at first. ~marco signature.asc Description: Questa รจ una parte del messaggio firmata digitalmente
Re: C Tutorial ?
Hi, * Michelle Konzack [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006-05-11 19:57]: [...] programming. This requires that you know not only about how objects are implemented on a fundamental level by the C++ compiler (virtual method despatch with vtables, typeinfo, inheritance, polymorphism, RTTI etc.), but how to re-implement these concepts in C. And, in addition, several features from smalltalk such as properties. With the GTK+ 2.0 Tutorial found in Debian it is easy to create Dialogs, even without knowledge about C... [...] Now I know where all the segfaults are coming from... Regards Nico -- Nico Golde - JAB: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | GPG: 0x73647CFF http://www.ngolde.de | http://www.muttng.org | http://grml.org Forget about that mouse with 3/4/5 buttons - gimme a keyboard with 103/104/105 keys! pgpgBFkm3ITfN.pgp Description: PGP signature
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