Re: how to compare versions

2010-02-05 Thread Hideki Yamane
On Thu, 4 Feb 2010 21:01:12 -0700
Wesley J. Landaker w...@icecavern.net wrote:
  It adds additional strong restrictions on the order in which packages
  must be upgraded. Too many such restrictions and there might not be a
  way to upgrade at all. Somewhere before that you (via apt/aptitutde/...)
  get the effect that you have to temporarily remove packages to upgrade.
  
  The less restrictions there are on the order the easier it is to
  upgrade.
 
 This is true in general, although it's perhaps worth noting that a rare pre-
 depends on a priority required package like debconf by a priority optional or 
 extra package isn't likely to cause any trouble. 

 Yes, it is true in general but I want to know the example for that :)
 For example, if I have foobar package and it says Pre-Depends: debconf,
 what would happen?



 BTW, I would rename tomoyo-ccstools to tomoyo-ccstools1.7 and not provide
 upgrade path for that. If I just would upgrade this pacakge, it'll break 
 system that it works with security policies for 1.6.x, so I should leave 
 it and provide README.Debian for upgrade to 1.7.


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Re: RFS: tacacs+

2010-02-05 Thread Craig Small
On Thu, Feb 04, 2010 at 06:30:26PM +0100, Tourneur Henry-Nicolas wrote:
 I just did so and normally, I should have fixed all of the lintian Errors and 
 Warnings. Could somebody review my package again ?
 
 Thanks everybody for taking time to help me.
I was wondering why you have put the binaries into /usr/bin and not
/usr/sbin. Both are not programs standard users run.
  tac_plus is the TACACS+ daemon and has a man page in section 8
  tac_pwd is used by system administrators to make DES passwords to put 
into the configuration file. Again it has a section 8 man pages.

To me this sort of stuff belongs in /usr/sbin.

 - Craig

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Experimental release for IPv6 patched package?

2010-02-05 Thread Mats Erik Andersson
Dear mentors,

I have taken to addressing the lack of IPv6-support for tftpd
from netkit-tftp-0.17 (see #536509). As far as I can tell it
seems to work on my machine, including format 3.0-quilt.

Would I be correct in guessing that the experimental release
should be the first entry point for alterations like the
Debian IPv6 goal?

I am asking out of principle, since I will try to find the
official maintainer before I take any actions.

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Re: RFS: ampache (updated package)

2010-02-05 Thread Andreas Henriksson
 I am looking for a sponsor for the new version 3.5.4-1
 of my package ampache.

uploaded, thanks.

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Re: Experimental release for IPv6 patched package?

2010-02-05 Thread Asheesh Laroia

On Fri, 5 Feb 2010, Mats Erik Andersson wrote:


Dear mentors,

I have taken to addressing the lack of IPv6-support for tftpd from 
netkit-tftp-0.17 (see #536509). As far as I can tell it seems to work on 
my machine, including format 3.0-quilt.


Would I be correct in guessing that the experimental release should be 
the first entry point for alterations like the Debian IPv6 goal?


I am asking out of principle, since I will try to find the official 
maintainer before I take any actions.


I don't see why you'd use experimental rather than unstable. I'd suggest 
setting the release to unstable rather than experimental. Doubly true 
since IPv6 is a release goal.


Others, feel free to say why I'm wrong.

Naturally, if this isn't your package, talk to the maintainer. But you 
already said you would do that. (-:


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Re: how to compare versions

2010-02-05 Thread Rogério Brito
On Feb 05 2010, Hideki Yamane wrote:
 BTW, I would rename tomoyo-ccstools to tomoyo-ccstools1.7 and not
 provide upgrade path for that. If I just would upgrade this pacakge,
 it'll break system that it works with security policies for 1.6.x, so
 I should leave it and provide README.Debian for upgrade to 1.7.

That seems to be the most sensible solution, since it can allow the
co-installation of both solutions. Is it meaninful to have both of them
installed side-by-side, with the user being able to choose whether one
or the other should be used?


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Re: how to compare versions

2010-02-05 Thread Wesley J. Landaker
On Friday 05 February 2010 04:43:05 Hideki Yamane wrote:
  This is true in general, although it's perhaps worth noting that a rare
  pre- depends on a priority required package like debconf by a priority
  optional or extra package isn't likely to cause any trouble.
 
  Yes, it is true in general but I want to know the example for that :)
  For example, if I have foobar package and it says Pre-Depends:
  debconf, what would happen?

Short answer: nothing, it would work fine in practice.

Long answer:

Debconf would be required to be fully unpacked and configured before foobar 
could even be unpacked. But, since debconf is priority required, and is 
already depended on by so many other packages that it's infeasible that it 
won't already be completely installed, the pre-depends would be a no-op. In 
the rare case that debconf wasn't already installed, it would simply be 
unpacked and configured first, which might slow down the resolver (and hence 
installation) but otherwise would be no problem.

However, it is possible that you can dream up a bizarre corner case where 
you are pre-depending on a specific version, your doing a big dist-upgrade, 
the foobar package has a pre-depends and so do a bunch of other packages 
that are intertwined in foobar's dependency graph, and the whole thing 
explodes in a big unresolvable mess.

The last paragraph is incredibly unlikely for just foobar pre-depending on 
debconf that's you'd have to come up with some silly scenerio to show it 
breaking, but if pre-depends were used all over the place on lots of 
packages, that kind of scenerio could happen really quickly, which is why 
they are generally to be avoided.

I think the general idea is:

  1) Don't use pre-depends.
  2) No, really, don't use pre-depends.
  2) Don't use pre-depends unless it's the best technical solution.

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Re: RFS: gnurobbo (updated package)

2010-02-05 Thread Stephen Kitt
On Tue, 2 Feb 2010 21:36:55 +0100, Christoph Egger christ...@debian.org
wrote:
 On Tue, Feb 02, 2010 at 07:11:57AM +0100, Stephen Kitt wrote:
  I am looking for a sponsor for the new version 0.65.6+dfsg-1
  of my package gnurobbo.
 
 Uploaded, looks fine.

Thanks!

Stephen


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Re: how to compare versions

2010-02-05 Thread Hideki Yamane
On Fri, 5 Feb 2010 14:00:47 -0200
Rogério Brito rbr...@ime.usp.br wrote:
  BTW, I would rename tomoyo-ccstools to tomoyo-ccstools1.7 and not
  provide upgrade path for that. If I just would upgrade this pacakge,
  it'll break system that it works with security policies for 1.6.x, so
  I should leave it and provide README.Debian for upgrade to 1.7.
 
 That seems to be the most sensible solution, since it can allow the
 co-installation of both solutions. Is it meaninful to have both of them
 installed side-by-side, with the user being able to choose whether one
 or the other should be used?

 Surely tomoyo-ccstools1.7 conflicts with tomoyo-ccstool.


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RFS: ceph

2010-02-05 Thread Sage Weil
Hello,

I am looking for a sponsor for ceph.  Ceph is a distributed object store 
and file system designed for scalability, reliability, and performance.  
The kernel module for mounting the file system is planned for inclusion in 
2.6.34.

* Package name: ceph
  Version : 0.18-1 (*)
  Upstream Author : Sage Weil s...@newdream.net
* URL : http://ceph.newdream.net
* License : LGPL-2
  Section : admin and libdevel

The following binary packages are built:
ceph: distributed storage and file system
ceph-dbg: debugging symbols for ceph
ceph-fuse: FUSE-based client for the Ceph distributed file system
ceph-fuse-dbg: debugging symbols for ceph-fuse
libcrush1: CRUSH placement algorithm
libcrush1-dbg: debugging symbols for libcrush1
libcrush1-dev: CRUSH mapping algorithm (development files)
librados1: RADOS distributed object store client library
librados1-dbg: debugging symbols for librados1
librados1-dev: RADOS distributed object store client library 
(development files)
libceph1: Ceph distributed file system client library
libceph1-dbg: debugging symbols for libceph1
libceph1-dev: Ceph distributed file system client library (development 
files)
radosgw: REST gateway for RADOS distributed object store
radosgw-dbg: debugging symbols for radosgw

The packages are lintian clean.

The upload would fix the LTP bug 506040.

The package can be found at:
- URL: http://ceph.newdream.net/debian/dists/unstable/main/
- Binary repository: deb http://ceph.newdream.net/debian unstable main
- Source repository: deb-src http://ceph.newdream.net/debian unstable main

Thanks,
sage


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Re: RFS: ceph

2010-02-05 Thread Asheesh Laroia

On Fri, 5 Feb 2010, Sage Weil wrote:


Hello,

I am looking for a sponsor for ceph.  Ceph is a distributed object store 
and file system designed for scalability, reliability, and performance. 
The kernel module for mounting the file system is planned for inclusion 
in 2.6.34.


Hi! That's one awesome package. I'm very busy of late, but I hope you're 
looking into DebianMaintainer status -- have you read 
http://wiki.debian.org/DebianMaintainer ?


It'd be perfect for your situation as you're the upstream as well.

It's most helpful for this list if you post a link to a .dsc file you want 
us to review.


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