Re: Starting an application on login
Hi, On 4 June 2014 07:24:27 CEST, Cameron Norman camerontnor...@gmail.com wrote: I think users installing this piece of software will expect it to be started at boot, and we should do just that. Where I do not agree with your conclusion is that _users_ do not install software, _admins_ (aka root) do. If one user requests the software, the admin installs it and nine other users complain that this software is now starting when they login, which means the admin has to explain how to _not_ start it, I'm not sure this is the right thing to do. On the other hand, if one user requests the software, the admin installs it and explains to the requester how to activate it, that sounds more like a plan. And I'm conscious that many users are sole user and admin on their desktop, but that's not the unique use case (I'm personally user and admin on my PC but I have other users and I don't want them to be impacted just because I decide to install a package for my own usage). Eric Regards, -- Cameron -- I'm on debian-java, java maintainers, vdr maintainers and debian-mentors; no need to CC me on these lists. Thanks! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-mentors-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/128815c6-966b-4a73-b514-f8f319ace...@email.android.com
Re: New contributor to Debian
Hi Perrin, you might want to start with https://www.debian.org/intro/help to decide on what you exactly want to do to work on contributing to Debian, which is a rather broad concept. If indeed you want to help package software, which is the topic of this list, your next step is probably to read and understand https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/maint-guide/. To be honest with you, nobody will take you by the hand from A to Z, there is a fair amount of self-learning involved, but if you have specific questions about packaging, ask them here, and you shall get specific answers. Hope this helps, Eric PS: allowing myself to make your subject slightly more specific. On 31 May 2014 01:43:16 CEST, Perrin Shabot perrin_sha...@yahoo.com wrote: Hello. I am new to most all of Linux but have experience developing software. If someone is available to mentor and/or sponsor that would be awesome. Trying to get the ball rolling with contributing :-) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-mentors-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/1401493396.4103.8.camel@debian -- I'm on debian-java, java maintainers, vdr maintainers and debian-mentors; no need to CC me on these lists. Thanks!
Re: Ubuntu packages
On 25/05/14 09:59, Tshepang Lekhonkhobe wrote: What 'bodgification' means? Let me google it for you: http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/bodge Eric -- I'm subscribed on debian-java, debian-mentors, pkg-java-maintainers and pkg-vdr-dvb-devel. No need to CC me on these lists. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-mentors-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/5381af27.4070...@lavar.de
Re: Bug#749152: RFS: top/2.2.3-1 [ITP]
Hi Hugo, On 24/05/14 18:35, Hugo Lefeuvre wrote: But, if you think it's buggy, I'll change it. Naturally, I can also try to speak with the Upstream to change the name of the source program but I think it will be... very long. I think, everybody agrees that it's quite buggy, but you can do both in parallel: change the binary name in the package with a patch as well as the package name itself, and ask upstream to change their name. qtop did sound like a good suggestion. Eric -- I'm subscribed on debian-java, debian-mentors, pkg-java-maintainers and pkg-vdr-dvb-devel. No need to CC me on these lists. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-mentors-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/5380e476.7020...@lavar.de
Re: How I can start?
Hi Andrew, you might want to start with https://www.debian.org/intro/help to decide on what you exactly want to do to work on the development of Debian, which is a rather broad concept. If indeed you want to help package software, which is the topic of this list, your next step is probably to read and understand https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/maint-guide/. To be honest with you, nobody will take you by the hand from A to Z, there is a fair amount of self-learning involved, but if you have specific questions about packaging, ask them here, and you shall get specific answers. Hope this helps, Eric On 23 May 2014 18:34:36 CEST, Andrew Pollard andrew@gmail.com wrote: Hello everyone. The reason I am writing is because I need someone to explain to me how I can start working on the development of Debian. I read about this in the official Debian wiki, but I understand very little, I need someone to guide me. My knowledge covers the Fundamentals of Programming and Language C. -- I'm on debian-java, java maintainers, vdr maintainers and debian-mentors; no need to CC me on these lists. Thanks!
Re: Bug#740043: Powerline dans Debian
Hi, On 10/05/14 09:36, Vincent Bernat wrote: The suggestion for powerline package should not pull vim, zsh, tmux and ipython. I don't really see a use case where a user will install vim because they installed powerline. powerline enhances vim but I don't think that vim enhances powerline. You could use the Enhances field for this purpose. Cheers, Eric -- I'm subscribed on debian-java, debian-mentors, pkg-java-maintainers and pkg-vdr-dvb-devel. No need to CC me on these lists. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-mentors-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/536e0b7e.7040...@lavar.de
Re: Dependency
In the section TIMTOWTDI I suggest apt-cache showpkg. Eric On 10 May 2014 03:35:02 CEST, Fernando Toledo ftol...@docksud.com.ar wrote: El 06/05/14 03:35, Jörg Frings-Fürst escribió: Hi, is there a way to determine in how many and in which packages a package is added as a dependency? Jörg maybe using python-debian ? https://upsilon.cc/~zack/blog/posts/2008/07/python-debian_w_dependency_parsing/ https://github.com/raumkraut/python-debian/blob/master/README.deb822 Saludos! -- Fernando Toledo Dock Sud BBS http://bbs.docksud.com.ar telnet://bbs.docksud.com.ar -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-mentors-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/536d8246.9000...@docksud.com.ar I'm on debian-java, java maintainers, vdr maintainers and debian-mentors; no need to CC me on these lists. Thanks!
Re: Can't push new mcron package to FTP
Hi, On 01/05/14 18:41, Dale Mellor wrote: Hello, a couple of days ago I uploaded a new version of mcron to the upload FTP server, and heard not a titter about it (it does not seem to have gone through). It is a while since I last did this... can someone help me please? To which FTP server? Using which method, which steps? You're not a DD, aren't you (if you don't know what a DD is, you're not one)? Cheers, Eric -- I'm subscribed on debian-java, debian-mentors, pkg-java-maintainers and pkg-vdr-dvb-devel. No need to CC me on these lists. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-mentors-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/53628654.80...@lavar.de
Re: Can't push new mcron package to FTP
Hi, On 2 May 2014 03:59:15 CEST, Paul Wise p...@debian.org wrote: On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 6:32 AM, Dale Mellor wrote: Is this person always this condescending or am I being bullied? As far as I can tell there was neither condescension nor bullying in the mail by Eric, he was simply asking for some more information that he wasn't able to determine from your question. Thanks, Paul, it's exactly like that. As to your question, I can't see any record of mcron being uploaded to mentors.d.n. I'm guessing you uploaded it to the main archive by mistake and it got deleted automatically. And I was too lazy or too stupid to guess so much ;-) Regards, Eric I'm on debian-java, java maintainers, vdr maintainers and debian-mentors; no need to CC me on these lists. Thanks! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-mentors-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/6ab5aa6e-d7cf-41b7-97d7-3daf9e3ee...@email.android.com
Re: netcdf packages
Hi, On 28 March 2014 09:20:01 CET, Dominique Dumont d...@debian.org wrote: On Thursday 27 March 2014 22:21:55 Nico Schlömer wrote: The question is: how to avoid breaking the above package when upgrading netcdf to netcdf-c, netcdf-fortran, netcdf-cxx ? What about declaring netcdf-bin as dummy package depending on the 3 new ones, and ask (or file bugs against) the dependent package(r)s to change their dependencies. Eric I'm on debian-java, java maintainers, vdr maintainers and debian-mentors; no need to CC me on these lists. Thanks! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-mentors-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/27a60a5d-44f9-41c2-b45e-52be470bf...@email.android.com
Bug#742309: RFS: libvarnam/3.1.3-1
Hi, the issue is that the first line of the description (the short description) doesn't give any information, it just paraphrases the package name and version (I know that libvarnam/3.1.3-1 is a library and that it's about Varnam with a 3). Something else: the mentor page is full of lintian warnings, you will have to fix those before any DD (I'm not one BTW) will sponsor your package. You may ask specific questions on the list on how to fix a specific one but in general the linked descriptions are quite helpful. Cheers, Eric On 23 March 2014 06:00:35 CET, Navaneeth.K.N navaneet...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Eric, Thanks for checking out the project. Where should I improve the project description? The debain control files has proper description about the project. Where else should I change? Thanks On Sun, Mar 23, 2014 at 12:40 AM, Eric L. ewl+debian+nospam2...@lavar.de wrote: Hi, I would recommend to improve the short description. The homepage states cross platform transliterator for Indian languages which sounds more informative to me. Eric On 22 March 2014 07:18:18 CET, Navaneeth K N navaneet...@gmail.com wrote: Package: sponsorship-requests Severity: normal Package: sponsorship-requests Severity: normal Dear mentors, I am looking for a sponsor for my package libvarnam * Package name: libvarnam Version : 3.1.3-1 Upstream Author : Navaneeth K N navaneet...@gmail.com * URL : http://varnamproject.com * License : MIT Section : libs It builds those binary packages: libvarnam - Varnam 3 shared library libvarnam-dev - Varnam 3 development files varnamc- Commandline interface to libvarnam To access further information about this package, please visit the following URL: http://mentors.debian.net/package/libvarnam Alternatively, one can do wnload the package with dget using this command: dget -x http://mentors.debian.net/debian/pool/main/libv/libvarnam/libvarnam_3.1.3-1.dsc More information about libvarnam can be obtained from http://www.varnamproject.com. Changes since the last upload: libvarnam (3.1.3-1) stable; urgency=low * varnam_init_from_lang will make the suggestions directory * Fixed varnam_init_from_lang() to set errors correctly * Adding MultiArch directories to varnamc search path * Added uninstall target * MultiArch support to the build system * Added manpages for varnamc Regards, Navaneeth K N -- System Information: Debian Release: wheezy/sid APT prefers saucy-updates APT policy: (500, 'saucy-updates'), (500, 'saucy-security'), (500, 'saucy'), (100, 'saucy-backports') Architecture: amd64 (x86_64) Foreign Architectures: i386 Kernel: Linux 3.11.0-18-generic (SMP w/2 CPU cores) Locale: LANG=en_IN, LC_CTYPE=en_IN (charmap=UTF-8) Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/dash I'm on debian-java, java maintainers, vdr maintainers and debian-mentors; no need to CC me on these lists. Thanks! -- Thanks Navaneeth -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-mentors-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/cajsayaxrp3sbusm6mcynykofnbzdfmyqkqpnmpqohvfk5vv...@mail.gmail.com I'm on debian-java, java maintainers, vdr maintainers and debian-mentors; no need to CC me on these lists. Thanks!
Bug#742309: RFS: libvarnam/3.1.3-1
Hi, I would recommend to improve the short description. The homepage states cross platform transliterator for Indian languages which sounds more informative to me. Eric On 22 March 2014 07:18:18 CET, Navaneeth K N navaneet...@gmail.com wrote: Package: sponsorship-requests Severity: normal Package: sponsorship-requests Severity: normal Dear mentors, I am looking for a sponsor for my package libvarnam * Package name: libvarnam Version : 3.1.3-1 Upstream Author : Navaneeth K N navaneet...@gmail.com * URL : http://varnamproject.com * License : MIT Section : libs It builds those binary packages: libvarnam - Varnam 3 shared library libvarnam-dev - Varnam 3 development files varnamc- Commandline interface to libvarnam To access further information about this package, please visit the following URL: http://mentors.debian.net/package/libvarnam Alternatively, one can download the package with dget using this command: dget -x http://mentors.debian.net/debian/pool/main/libv/libvarnam/libvarnam_3.1.3-1.dsc More information about libvarnam can be obtained from http://www.varnamproject.com. Changes since the last upload: libvarnam (3.1.3-1) stable; urgency=low * varnam_init_from_lang will make the suggestions directory * Fixed varnam_init_from_lang() to set errors correctly * Adding MultiArch directories to varnamc search path * Added uninstall target * MultiArch support to the build system * Added manpages for varnamc Regards, Navaneeth K N -- System Information: Debian Release: wheezy/sid APT prefers saucy-updates APT policy: (500, 'saucy-updates'), (500, 'saucy-security'), (500, 'saucy'), (100, 'saucy-backports') Architecture: amd64 (x86_64) Foreign Architectures: i386 Kernel: Linux 3.11.0-18-generic (SMP w/2 CPU cores) Locale: LANG=en_IN, LC_CTYPE=en_IN (charmap=UTF-8) Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/dash -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-mentors-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140322061818.7899.94084.reportbug@nkn I'm on debian-java, java maintainers, vdr maintainers and debian-mentors; no need to CC me on these lists. Thanks!
Re: Is this really the debian way ?
Hi, On 08/02/14 20:13, Roelof Wobben wrote: So they have to use some sort of hack to find the files of the second package. If this is the way Debian wants the packages, how can I do the same with dh7. Not too sure about this part and what the actual question is... All the parts are of a debian directory made by the Linux mint developers. and on the faq is stated that it is better to make a debian diretory instead of using upstream. I'm not too sure which FAQ you are referring to, perhaps [0], but you should understand it the right way: it doesn't mean that you should throw away everything what upstream has done, because it would be a complete duplication of work, which would be a shame (especially if upstream has a good enough and well maintained debian/ directory), but to: 1. try to get upstream to remove debian/ from their upstream source .tar.gz 2. if that doesn't work, repackage upstream to remove debian/ from the package, but use the debian/ directory as basis for your work (again, if it's of good quality and actively maintained i.e. less effort than re-creating the whole debian/ from scratch). As Cinnamon is on Github, you could probably do some smart clone/branching magic to limit your effort keeping your debian/ in sync with upstream's, but I'm no specialist here (I just read here and there that git can do this kind of magic :-)), and/or provide Cinnamon directly your improvements of their debian/ directory which are not Debian specific (it's generally possible to package software in a way that it works under Ubuntu, Debian and all their derivatives, possibly after a rebuild). Hope this clarifies and helps, Eric Roelof [0] https://wiki.debian.org/DebianMentorsFaq#What.27s_wrong_with_upstream_shipping_a_debian.2F_directory.3F -- I'm subscribed on debian-java, debian-mentors, pkg-java-maintainers and pkg-vdr-dvb-devel. No need to CC me on these lists. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-mentors-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/52f770d5.2060...@lavar.de
Re: Bug#736355: RFS: checkbox-ng/0.1-1 [ITP] -- Simple replacement for CheckBox
Hi, The point is probably more that the package description is relatively useless, and should rather explain that it's a test runner; what about e.g. PlainBox based test runner? Eric Sylvain Pineau sylvain.pin...@canonical.com wrote: On 22/01/2014 18:15, Sune Vuorela wrote: On 2014-01-22, Sylvain Pineau sylvain.pin...@canonical.com wrote: It builds those binary packages: checkbox-ng - Simple replacement for CheckBox What's CheckBox? /Sune CheckBox is a test runner for Ubuntu (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/Automation/Checkbox) CheckBox NG is a full rewrite of CheckBox using PlainBox (https://plainbox.readthedocs.org/en/latest/) I know, that's a lot of boxes. Sylvain -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-mentors-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/52dffef5.1040...@canonical.com I'm on debian-java, java maintainers, vdr maintainers and debian-mentors; no need to CC me on these lists. Thanks!
Re: Restrictive Artwork License
Hi, I would tend to agree with what Paul wrote but IANAL and you should ask on debian-legal for a more authoritative answer. A few more comments below: Paul Tagliamonte paul...@debian.org wrote: On Sat, Dec 28, 2013 at 07:36:42PM +0100, Felix Natter wrote: (upstream) Freeplane 1.3.x will have new icons (application icon, document icon), but the artist wants to keep all rights and only grant the Freeplane project all rights of use. -- Is that ok for Debian? Not for Debian main, no. You will have to strip the icons from the software, or move it to non-free. The author should provide a clear license, e.g. using Creative Commons, as even redistributing artwork might be understood as a right of use, which Debian wouldn't have and hence even non-free would be impossible. -- Is it even compatible with the GPL-2+ license of Freeplane? Yes[*] I guess, it means that having the icons in a jar file isn't OK, having them in the file system is OK, but java was always a border case because it doesn't link as it was understood when the GPL2 was written (GPL3 might even be another story). The easiest would be if upstream would change their plans and not take this artwork, no icon justifies the trouble, but I know upstream, coolness vs. legal were always difficult discussions ;-) Thanks and Happy New Year, All the same, Eric -- Felix Natter [*]: So long as the icons are totally and sepretely loaded. For instance, no one would claim the GPL'd GIMP program can only edit GPL compatable images, just as in the general case, I don't think it's a problem for a GPL'd program to render or load in non-GPL'd assets. Cheers, Paul I'm on debian-java, java maintainers, vdr maintainers and debian-mentors; no need to CC me on these lists. Thanks!
