Re: [Bulk] Re: Advice about first package building (from sources)

2008-09-17 Thread Laurent Guignard
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Eric Lavarde - Debian a écrit :
> Hi Laurent,
> 
> Al Nikolov said:
>> Laurent Guignard wrote:
>>
>>> I have read the main documentation about pbuilder but i haven't seen if
>>> it is possible to build a package from upstream sources.
>>> In all examples, the command is like "pbuilder build ???.dsc"
>>>
>>> What is the correct method to build a package from upstream sources ?
>>>
>>> I thought to build a virtual host (KVM), install all packages needed,
>>> import all sources (upstream with all files needed to build package) and
>>> run the "dpkg-buildpackage" command...
>>>
>>> All this to keep a clean and stable Debian on my laptop ;)
> I fear the answers you got might have been a bit confusing, but it's also
> because it's not clear what you mean with keeping a clean and stable
> Debian: only install packaged software (nothing by hand), or really not do
> anything "out of the normal" (e.g. compiling and packaging) on your
> laptop, or both.
> 
> I'm kind of a "both" guy, so:
> - I created an unstable CHROOT jail with debootstrap and do all my
> packaging in there (as suggested by Neil). For this purpose, KVM, Xen or
> any VM is as good, but more heavyweight.
> - I check that my packages build correctly with pbuilder (and pbuilder is
> really only meant for this).
> - Neither pbuilder nor debootstrap will help you to learn Debian
> packaging, hence the advice from Al to read
> http://www.debian.org/doc/maint-guide/
> 
> Hope this helps, Eric
> 
> PS: I directed my answer back to you because it was not clear if you are
> subscribed to Mentors.
> 

Thanks for all your answers.

I'll build a chroot environment with deboostrap with "unstable".
I'll have to build the new libnet1 package of David Paleino from all
files he upload on mentors.debian.net (with Debian unstable dependencies).
After, I'll can build my package from source.

It seems to be the better solution...

My words "clean" and "stable" means that I have a Debian stable and i
doesn't want to upgrade to testing or unstable, so i need a specific
environment to build package.

Thanks again.


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Re: [Bulk] Re: Advice about first package building (from sources)

2008-09-18 Thread Al Nikolov
Laurent Guignard wrote:

> I'll build a chroot environment with deboostrap with "unstable".
> I'll have to build the new libnet1 package of David Paleino from all
> files he upload on mentors.debian.net (with Debian unstable dependencies).
> After, I'll can build my package from source.
> 
> It seems to be the better solution...
> 
> My words "clean" and "stable" means that I have a Debian stable and i
> doesn't want to upgrade to testing or unstable, so i need a specific
> environment to build package.

No, you do not! You need what you already have - the Debian Etch
environment. You can, of course make `debootstrap etch` in trying to not
pollute your clean 'working' environment with build dependencies, or
whatever, but this is not necessary.

OTOH, if you build your binary package in Debian Sid enviroment, they could
be suitable for Sid (that's the point!), but you have a little chance to
install them in Etch due to broken dependecies.


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Re: [Bulk] Re: Advice about first package building (from sources)

2008-09-18 Thread David Paleino
Hello Laurent,

On Wed, 17 Sep 2008 21:01:06 +0200, Laurent Guignard wrote:

> I'll build a chroot environment with deboostrap with "unstable".
> I'll have to build the new libnet1 package of David Paleino from all
> files he upload on mentors.debian.net (with Debian unstable dependencies).
> After, I'll can build my package from source.

Didn't I tell you to wait a bit? :)
The new libnet1, with the applied patches is now in unstable. You don't need to
get anything from mentors, just do:

# apt-get update
# apt-get -t unstable install libnet1 libnet1-dev

Kindly,
David

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Re : [Bulk] Re: Advice about first package building (from sources)

2008-09-18 Thread Laurent Guignard
> De : David Paleino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> À : debian-mentors@lists.debian.org
> Cc : Laurent Guignard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Envoyé le : Jeudi, 18 Septembre 2008, 7h47mn 38s
> Objet : Re: [Bulk] Re: Advice about first package building (from sources)
> 
> Hello Laurent,
> 
> On Wed, 17 Sep 2008 21:01:06 +0200, Laurent Guignard wrote:
> 
> I'll build a chroot environment with deboostrap with "unstable".
> I'll have to build the new libnet1 package of David Paleino from all
> files he upload on mentors.debian.net (with Debian unstable dependencies).
> After, I'll can build my package from source.
> 
> Didn't I tell you to wait a bit? :)

Yes you did ! ;)
But i would like to learn about how Debian packaging tools are working. It is 
only curiosity to improve my technical skills and observing the procedure to 
submit a package for sponsoring help to understand what files to provide, where 
to upload them, and anything interesting for newbies...
It is the fearlessness of the youth ! ;)

Sorry, i doesn't want to disturb or irritate anyone.

> The new libnet1, with the applied patches is now in unstable. You don't need 
> to
> get anything from mentors, just do:
> 
> # apt-get update
> # apt-get -t unstable install libnet1 libnet1-dev
> 
> Kindly,
> David

I am fine to hear this. The only thing i have to do now is to build a package 
and that will be a great adventure for me ;)
Again, sorry for my impatience.

This message isn't signed because it come from yahoo mail...





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