Bug#696600: RFS: sun/0.2-1 [ITP] schedule cron or at-jobs at sunrise/set
On 13070 March 1977, Steffen Vogel wrote: > There still the problem that the package name (sun) might be too generic > to be included in the archive. What do you think about this concern? > I've collected some alternatives: > solar > suncal > atsun > sunrun > suncycles - makes no sense to me As the one effectively blocking "sun" as a name, my 2¢ here would be on suncal. Fits it perfectly IMO. -- bye, Joerg 1. 0 2. 1 3. 2 4. 3 5. 4 6. 5 7. 6 8. 7 |-) What sort of FTP proxy firewall do you have? -- libnet-perl 1.16-1 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-mentors-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87d2xzlfh9@gkar.ganneff.de
Re: Bug#696600: RFS: sun/0.2-1 [ITP] schedule cron or at-jobs at sunrise/set
On Sun, Dec 23, 2012 at 11:52:56PM -0200, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote:
> On Mon, 24 Dec 2012, Paul Wise wrote:
> > On Mon, Dec 24, 2012 at 7:45 AM, Steffen Vogel wrote:
> >
> > > There still the problem that the package name (sun) might be too generic
> > > to be included in the archive. What do you think about this concern?
> >
> > I think sun is the perfect name for this tool and there is no need to
> > change it.
>
> It is indeed too generic. Better have a not-so-generic name NOW, than
> problems later.
There are two kinds of generic names:
* unrelated ("node" which has very vague ties with "manage a host (node)"
for HAM and no ties at all for javascript)
* related
For the latter, there's a valuable resource which needs to be shared between
potential users. If it's not used at all, it goes to waste. Of course,
end-user confusion is worse than having to type a bit more, so in doubt it's
better to not give the name to anything.
In this case, however, I see no other likely users: there's not much you
can do with Sun the day star on a computer shell, and there are no
legitimate uses related to Sun the part of Oracle (it'll be always something
more specific). So I'd say letting this package be named "sun" and use
/usr/bin/sun is warranted.
Like, a command-line utility of mine that can transcribe between language
scripts (cyrillic <-> latin <-> greek <-> furthark <-> hangul <-> ...) can
claim a legitimate stake to generic "transcribe", and a dubious but not
completely outlandish to its abbreviation "tran".
> I'd go with sun-cron
Incorrect and misleading. Using it for cron is only one of many possible
uses, and not even the primary one.
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Bug#696600: RFS: sun/0.2-1 [ITP] schedule cron or at-jobs at sunrise/set
On Mon, 24 Dec 2012, Paul Wise wrote: > On Mon, Dec 24, 2012 at 7:45 AM, Steffen Vogel wrote: > > > There still the problem that the package name (sun) might be too generic > > to be included in the archive. What do you think about this concern? > > I think sun is the perfect name for this tool and there is no need to change > it. It is indeed too generic. Better have a not-so-generic name NOW, than problems later. I'd go with sun-cron, or something like that. Even "daylight" (which is likely to also be too generic) would be better than "sun", IMHO... -- "One disk to rule them all, One disk to find them. One disk to bring them all and in the darkness grind them. In the Land of Redmond where the shadows lie." -- The Silicon Valley Tarot Henrique Holschuh -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-mentors-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20121224015256.ga19...@khazad-dum.debian.net
Bug#696600: RFS: sun/0.2-1 [ITP] schedule cron or at-jobs at sunrise/set
On Mon, Dec 24, 2012 at 7:45 AM, Steffen Vogel wrote: > There still the problem that the package name (sun) might be too generic > to be included in the archive. What do you think about this concern? I think sun is the perfect name for this tool and there is no need to change it. -- bye, pabs http://wiki.debian.org/PaulWise -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-mentors-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/caktje6fptb_yot_fh72jnhlsiengberyyevxvo5v49pss3r...@mail.gmail.com
Bug#696600: RFS: sun/0.2-1 [ITP] schedule cron or at-jobs at sunrise/set
On Mon, 24 Dec 2012 00:45:40 +0100, Steffen Vogel wrote: > thanks for reviewing my package! I've fixed all points you mentioned. That was quick :) > There still the problem that the package name (sun) might be too generic > to be included in the archive. What do you think about this concern? To be honest, I also had this concern when I read your first mail on -mentors. Something less generic might be nice if we come up with a good idea. > I've collected some alternatives: > > solar > suncal > atsun > sunrun > suncycles - makes no sense to me suncal(c) would be my favourite at the moment. Before sunset (movie title) From dusk till dawn something with 'rise' and 'set' Rise and Shine! twiglight (since it's an option) > Am Sonntag, den 23.12.2012, 23:17 +0100 schrieb gregor herrmann: > > - The package doesn't build on a machine / in a chroot without > > internet access because the tests fail: > fixed. I moved the binary from the check_ prefix to the noinst_ prefix. > So it gets compiled for testing purposes but not installed by automake. Yup, works. > > - You can remove the override_dh_auto_configure in debian/rules if > > you use debhelper (>= 9) in debian/control and 9 in debian/compat. > fixed. Purely aesthetic remark: You used "debhelper (>= 9.0.0)" now. The additional minor version has no benefit over a plain "(>= 9)". (It also doesn't hurt to the best of my knowledge.) > > - Please run lintian with all bells and whistles turned on against > > the .changes file. It reports for me: > > debian-watch-contains-dh_make-template and > > 3x hyphen-used-as-minus-sign for the manpage > fixed. I've run lintian with --pedantic -E. No more warnings are showing > up. Perfect! > Just debian-mentor's lintian claims: > newer-standards-version 3.9.4 (current is 3.9.3) Well, yes, looks like someone should update lintian on mentors.d.n :) > > - Installing the empty NEWS file doesn't look so helpful :) > > (And I'd rename docs to sun.docs for consistency with > > sun.manpages.) > fixed. Automake requires the NEWS file. So, I removed it from > debian/sun.docs. Yup, that was my idea. One last nitpick: The example with Berlin in the manpage seems to have wrong coordinates; --lat=50.55 --lon=-6.2 is in the Atlantic between Britanny and Cornwall (or Finistère and Land's End). Ok, so let's think a bit about the name, and maybe somone else wants to take a look at the package, but basically this looks all very good already. Cheers, gregor -- .''`. Homepage: http://info.comodo.priv.at/ - OpenPGP key 0xBB3A68018649AA06 : :' : Debian GNU/Linux user, admin, and developer - http://www.debian.org/ `. `' Member of VIBE!AT & SPI, fellow of the Free Software Foundation Europe `- NP: Mark Knopfler: Sailing To Philadelphia signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Bug#696600: RFS: sun/0.2-1 [ITP] schedule cron or at-jobs at sunrise/set
Hi Gregor, thanks for reviewing my package! I've fixed all points you mentioned. There still the problem that the package name (sun) might be too generic to be included in the archive. What do you think about this concern? I've collected some alternatives: solar suncal atsun sunrun suncycles - makes no sense to me Am Sonntag, den 23.12.2012, 23:17 +0100 schrieb gregor herrmann: > - The package doesn't build on a machine / in a chroot without > internet access because the tests fail: fixed. I moved the binary from the check_ prefix to the noinst_ prefix. So it gets compiled for testing purposes but not installed by automake. > - You can remove the override_dh_auto_configure in debian/rules if > you use debhelper (>= 9) in debian/control and 9 in debian/compat. fixed. > - Current Standards-Version is 3.9.4. fixed. > - You don't need the version restrictions for pkg-config libjson0-dev > libcurl4-openssl-dev in debian/control, for all 3 packages there > are no older versions in the archive. fixed. > - Please run lintian with all bells and whistles turned on against > the .changes file. It reports for me: > debian-watch-contains-dh_make-template and > 3x hyphen-used-as-minus-sign for the manpage fixed. I've run lintian with --pedantic -E. No more warnings are showing up. Just debian-mentor's lintian claims: newer-standards-version 3.9.4 (current is 3.9.3) > - Installing the empty NEWS file doesn't look so helpful :) > (And I'd rename docs to sun.docs for consistency with > sun.manpages.) fixed. Automake requires the NEWS file. So, I removed it from debian/sun.docs. I uploaded a the updated package to debian-mentors [1]. Regards, Steffen [1] http://mentors.debian.net/package/sun -- Steffen Vogel Robensstraße 69 52070 Aachen Mail: p...@steffenvogel.de Mobil: +49 176 34911387 Web: http://www.steffenvogel.de Jabber: st...@jabber.ccc.de ICQ: 236033 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Bug#696600: RFS: sun/0.2-1 [ITP] schedule cron or at-jobs at sunrise/set
Control: tag -1 + moreinfo On Sun, 23 Dec 2012 20:01:11 +0100, Steffen Vogel wrote: > I am looking for a sponsor for my new package "sun" > > Package name: sun > Version : 0.2-1 > Upstream Author : Steffen Vogel > URL : https://github.com/stv0g/sun > License : GPL > Section : utils > > Alternatively, one can download the package with dget using this > command: > dget -x http://mentors.debian.net/debian/pool/main/s/sun/sun_0.2-1.dsc Really a nice tool. I took a quick and probably not complete look at the package, some notes: - The package doesn't build on a machine / in a chroot without internet access because the tests fail: make check-TESTS make[3]: Entering directory `/tmp/buildd/sun-0.2/src' request failed: Couldn't connect to server FAIL: geonames = 1 of 1 test failed Please report to p...@steffenvogel.de = - You can remove the override_dh_auto_configure in debian/rules if you use debhelper (>= 9) in debian/control and 9 in debian/compat. - Current Standards-Version is 3.9.4. - You don't need the version restrictions for pkg-config libjson0-dev libcurl4-openssl-dev in debian/control, for all 3 packages there are no older versions in the archive. - Please run lintian with all bells and whistles turned on against the .changes file. It reports for me: debian-watch-contains-dh_make-template and 3x hyphen-used-as-minus-sign for the manpage - Installing the empty NEWS file doesn't look so helpful :) (And I'd rename docs to sun.docs for consistency with sun.manpages.) Thanks for writing this nice tool! Cheers, gregor -- .''`. Homepage: http://info.comodo.priv.at/ - OpenPGP key 0xBB3A68018649AA06 : :' : Debian GNU/Linux user, admin, and developer - http://www.debian.org/ `. `' Member of VIBE!AT & SPI, fellow of the Free Software Foundation Europe `- NP: Peter Ratzenbeck: Foggey Dew signature.asc Description: Digital signature
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Bug#696600: RFS: sun/0.2-1 [ITP] schedule cron or at-jobs at sunrise/set
Package: sponsorship-requests Severity: wishlist Dear mentors, I am looking for a sponsor for my new package "sun" Package name: sun Version : 0.2-1 Upstream Author : Steffen Vogel URL : https://github.com/stv0g/sun License : GPL Section : utils It builds those binary packages: sun - solar ephemeris calculator I wrote this tool to easily schedule the switching of my lighting for home automation. Its a stand alone binary following the unix paradigm. Its designed to be used in conjunjtion with cron, at date etc. For me this tool is extremly useful as you might note with these examples: Schedule a BIOS wakeup 10 minutes before the sunrise in Berlin: nvram-wakeup -s $(date -d "-10min $(sun rise -q Berlin)" +%s) Shutdown the system 10 minutes after sunset: shutdown $(date -d +10min $(src/sun set --lat=50.55 --lon=-6.2) +%H:%M) Enable my lighting at cilil twiglight: echo ~/bin/enable-lightning | at $(sun set -q Frankfurt -t civil) To access further information about this package, please visit the following URL: http://mentors.debian.net/package/sun Alternatively, one can download the package with dget using this command: dget -x http://mentors.debian.net/debian/pool/main/s/sun/sun_0.2-1.dsc More information about sun can be obtained from my blog: http://www.steffenvogel.de/2012/12/23/cron-jobs-fur-sonnenauf-untergang/ or my ITP bugreport: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=696593 Regards, Steffen Vogel -- Steffen Vogel Robensstraße 69 52070 Aachen Mail: p...@steffenvogel.de Mobil: +49 176 34911387 Web: http://www.steffenvogel.de Jabber: st...@jabber.ccc.de ICQ: 236033 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
