Re: Need a sponsor/advocate
David Caldwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hello, First of all, I appreciate the criticism. I've been pondering my eol package throughout the week and I've decided it still has merit. It is not intended to recode between unicode, ebdic, and ascii, like recode. It's merely intended to change out end of lines in a file and make them uniform. Recode can't do this. Recode won't process files with mixed conventions, that's right. But tounix can actually be replaced by sed 's/^M$//;s/^M/\ /g' (^M standing for CR; ASCII 0x0d). Likewise for the tomac etc. tools. -- Robbe signature.ng Description: PGP signature
Re: Need a sponsor/advocate
On Sunday, September 30, 2001 4:48 PM +0200 Erich Schubert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Description: Translates text files between Mac, DOS, and Unix formats 'eol' contains 4 programs that help you deal with cross-platform text files: [snip] Do you know recode? recode knows over 200 different character sets and file formats and can easily be used for that. So insted of making separate programs, i'd suggest using aliases like [snip] Recoding isn't trivial, and your claim from any format won't hold for sure, as most codeset's cannot be distinguished at all. Furthermore it looks like converting to Mac isn't completely done by replacing the linefeeds with carriage returns. Windows does use a different codepage as dos, afaik! Even DOS doesn't always use the same Codepage. It usually uses 437 OR 850 though. So expect to get bugs over bugs for your package. Hello, First of all, I appreciate the criticism. I've been pondering my eol package throughout the week and I've decided it still has merit. It is not intended to recode between unicode, ebdic, and ascii, like recode. It's merely intended to change out end of lines in a file and make them uniform. Recode can't do this. On Wednesday I imported a file into CVS that accidentally had mac end of line characters (CR). I looked in my CVS repository and half the file had unix eols (LF), and the other had mac eols. I tried recode, but it just swapped eols--the unix ones became mac ones and the mac ones became unix ones. That didn't help me at all. I used eol's tounix and it made the file uniform. So perhaps the problem is I don't have a good description in the package header. How about making the EOL more explicit: Description: Translates text files between Mac, DOS, and Unix EOL formats 'eol' contains 4 programs that help you deal with cross-platform text file end-of-line (EOL) issues: - tounix converts a text file into Unix EOL format (eol=lf) from any EOL format. - tomac converts a text file into Macintosh EOL format (eol=cr) from any EOL format. - todos converts a text file into DOS EOL format (eol=crlf) from any EOL format. - towin converts a text file into DOS EOL format (eol=crlf) from any EOL format. . None of these programs will change any characters of the text file. --On Sunday, September 30, 2001 10:46 PM -0300 Carlos Laviola [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There's also the ``mtools'' package. I couldn't find anything in this package to help me. Did I miss something (it looks like its just floppy utilities). --On Monday, October 1, 2001 9:10 AM -0400 Peter S Galbraith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This will clash with an existing package: $ dpkg -L sysutils | grep todos /usr/bin/todos /usr/share/man/man1/todos.1.gz Thanks, I've added a conflict line to my package: ftp://ftp.indigita.com/other/david/eol/eol_1.0.2-2_i386.deb Thanks to all that responded, (and I still need an advocate/sponsor!) David -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Need a sponsor/advocate
On Sun, Oct 07, 2001 at 01:12:08PM -0700, David Caldwell wrote: --On Monday, October 1, 2001 9:10 AM -0400 Peter S Galbraith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This will clash with an existing package: $ dpkg -L sysutils | grep todos /usr/bin/todos /usr/share/man/man1/todos.1.gz Thanks, I've added a conflict line to my package: ftp://ftp.indigita.com/other/david/eol/eol_1.0.2-2_i386.deb Perhaps you could rename the binary instead? Adding a conflict because of a filename clash is really a last resort. -- Colin Watson [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Need a sponsor/advocate
At 13:12 -0700 07 Oct 2001, David Caldwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This will clash with an existing package: $ dpkg -L sysutils | grep todos /usr/bin/todos /usr/share/man/man1/todos.1.gz Thanks, I've added a conflict line to my package: There's a clash for tomac as well: 8)grok$ dpkg -S tomac macutils: /usr/share/man/man1/tomac.1.gz macutils: /usr/bin/tomac -- Aaron Schrab [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.execpc.com/~aarons/ I don't think anything makes my show look good. -- Jerry Springer -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Need a sponsor/advocate
On Sunday, September 30, 2001 4:48 PM +0200 Erich Schubert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Description: Translates text files between Mac, DOS, and Unix formats 'eol' contains 4 programs that help you deal with cross-platform text files: [snip] Do you know recode? recode knows over 200 different character sets and file formats and can easily be used for that. So insted of making separate programs, i'd suggest using aliases like [snip] Recoding isn't trivial, and your claim from any format won't hold for sure, as most codeset's cannot be distinguished at all. Furthermore it looks like converting to Mac isn't completely done by replacing the linefeeds with carriage returns. Windows does use a different codepage as dos, afaik! Even DOS doesn't always use the same Codepage. It usually uses 437 OR 850 though. So expect to get bugs over bugs for your package. Hello, First of all, I appreciate the criticism. I've been pondering my eol package throughout the week and I've decided it still has merit. It is not intended to recode between unicode, ebdic, and ascii, like recode. It's merely intended to change out end of lines in a file and make them uniform. Recode can't do this. On Wednesday I imported a file into CVS that accidentally had mac end of line characters (CR). I looked in my CVS repository and half the file had unix eols (LF), and the other had mac eols. I tried recode, but it just swapped eols--the unix ones became mac ones and the mac ones became unix ones. That didn't help me at all. I used eol's tounix and it made the file uniform. So perhaps the problem is I don't have a good description in the package header. How about making the EOL more explicit: Description: Translates text files between Mac, DOS, and Unix EOL formats 'eol' contains 4 programs that help you deal with cross-platform text file end-of-line (EOL) issues: - tounix converts a text file into Unix EOL format (eol=lf) from any EOL format. - tomac converts a text file into Macintosh EOL format (eol=cr) from any EOL format. - todos converts a text file into DOS EOL format (eol=crlf) from any EOL format. - towin converts a text file into DOS EOL format (eol=crlf) from any EOL format. . None of these programs will change any characters of the text file. --On Sunday, September 30, 2001 10:46 PM -0300 Carlos Laviola [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There's also the ``mtools'' package. I couldn't find anything in this package to help me. Did I miss something (it looks like its just floppy utilities). --On Monday, October 1, 2001 9:10 AM -0400 Peter S Galbraith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This will clash with an existing package: $ dpkg -L sysutils | grep todos /usr/bin/todos /usr/share/man/man1/todos.1.gz Thanks, I've added a conflict line to my package: ftp://ftp.indigita.com/other/david/eol/eol_1.0.2-2_i386.deb Thanks to all that responded, (and I still need an advocate/sponsor!) David
Re: Need a sponsor/advocate
On Sun, Oct 07, 2001 at 01:12:08PM -0700, David Caldwell wrote: --On Monday, October 1, 2001 9:10 AM -0400 Peter S Galbraith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This will clash with an existing package: $ dpkg -L sysutils | grep todos /usr/bin/todos /usr/share/man/man1/todos.1.gz Thanks, I've added a conflict line to my package: ftp://ftp.indigita.com/other/david/eol/eol_1.0.2-2_i386.deb Perhaps you could rename the binary instead? Adding a conflict because of a filename clash is really a last resort. -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Need a sponsor/advocate
At 13:12 -0700 07 Oct 2001, David Caldwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This will clash with an existing package: $ dpkg -L sysutils | grep todos /usr/bin/todos /usr/share/man/man1/todos.1.gz Thanks, I've added a conflict line to my package: There's a clash for tomac as well: 8)grok$ dpkg -S tomac macutils: /usr/share/man/man1/tomac.1.gz macutils: /usr/bin/tomac -- Aaron Schrab [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.execpc.com/~aarons/ I don't think anything makes my show look good. -- Jerry Springer
