Re: Packaging CVS snapshots?

2001-12-04 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh

On Mon, 03 Dec 2001, Duncan Findlay wrote:
 On Mon, Dec 03, 2001 at 11:56:57PM -0200, Carlos Laviola wrote:
  Yes, I would like to know of an easy way to release frequent (weekly,
  quarterly, monthly) Debian packages of CVS snapshots of certain
  software like lopster and licq.

I use cvs-buildpackage, and a small script that exports from upstream CVS
into a upstream .orig.tar.gz tarball. The versioning is used to place the
upstream .orig tarball in time, and I send diffs upstream as if we both
were not using CVS.  The best examples of this I have right now are the
Cyrus 2.1.0pre packages in p.d.o/~hmh/cyrus2

This is about the same amount of work as using dbs, I think.

 My AM suggested that it is really quite easy to merely apply the debian
 directory to a cvs export rather that using the ever-so-complicated (and
 evil) dbs.

That might work, too... but it IS prone to failure, if upstream changes
anything under your feet.

 Supposedly (I'm maybe wrong here) dbs does not give a clean .orig.tar.gz
 (which is a bad thing)

Well, there isn't a clean .orig.tar.gz when dealing with versions from CVS
anyway.

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Re: Packaging CVS snapshots?

2001-12-04 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Mon, 03 Dec 2001, Duncan Findlay wrote:
 On Mon, Dec 03, 2001 at 11:56:57PM -0200, Carlos Laviola wrote:
  Yes, I would like to know of an easy way to release frequent (weekly,
  quarterly, monthly) Debian packages of CVS snapshots of certain
  software like lopster and licq.

I use cvs-buildpackage, and a small script that exports from upstream CVS
into a upstream .orig.tar.gz tarball. The versioning is used to place the
upstream .orig tarball in time, and I send diffs upstream as if we both
were not using CVS.  The best examples of this I have right now are the
Cyrus 2.1.0pre packages in p.d.o/~hmh/cyrus2

This is about the same amount of work as using dbs, I think.

 My AM suggested that it is really quite easy to merely apply the debian
 directory to a cvs export rather that using the ever-so-complicated (and
 evil) dbs.

That might work, too... but it IS prone to failure, if upstream changes
anything under your feet.

 Supposedly (I'm maybe wrong here) dbs does not give a clean .orig.tar.gz
 (which is a bad thing)

Well, there isn't a clean .orig.tar.gz when dealing with versions from CVS
anyway.

-- 
  One disk to rule them all, One disk to find them. One disk to bring
  them all and in the darkness grind them. In the Land of Redmond
  where the shadows lie. -- The Silicon Valley Tarot
  Henrique Holschuh



Re: Packaging CVS snapshots?

2001-12-03 Thread Amaya

Carlos Laviola dijo:
 Some folks at #debian-devel suggested me to use dbs, 

Sorry, what do you exactly mean by dbs? 

 Can anyone give me some clues, or could anyone that does/has done this
 give me a hand?

What is exactly what you are having trouble with?
Automating? Dealing with CVS stuff?

I am also very interested on this subject, but have limited experience.
Just `cvs export` or `cvs-buildpackage` so far :-)

[Probably should be getting more sleep and not being so inquisitive ;-)]

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Re: Packaging CVS snapshots?

2001-12-03 Thread Carlos Laviola

On Mon, Dec 03, 2001 at 11:15:49PM +0100, Amaya wrote:
 Carlos Laviola dijo:
  Some folks at #debian-devel suggested me to use dbs, 
 
 Sorry, what do you exactly mean by dbs? 

The 'dbs' package :-)

  Can anyone give me some clues, or could anyone that does/has done this
  give me a hand?
 
 What is exactly what you are having trouble with?
 Automating? Dealing with CVS stuff?

Yes, I would like to know of an easy way to release frequent (weekly,
quarterly, monthly) Debian packages of CVS snapshots of certain
software like lopster and licq.

 I am also very interested on this subject, but have limited experience.
 Just `cvs export` or `cvs-buildpackage` so far :-)

That would be cool if one wanted to maintain a CVS repository of his
own with his Debian packages, I guess. No? I'm afraid what I want to
do here is different...

 [Probably should be getting more sleep and not being so inquisitive ;-)]

We all need to, apparently :))

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Re: Packaging CVS snapshots?

2001-12-03 Thread Duncan Findlay

On Mon, Dec 03, 2001 at 11:56:57PM -0200, Carlos Laviola wrote:
 On Mon, Dec 03, 2001 at 11:15:49PM +0100, Amaya wrote:
  Carlos Laviola dijo:
   Some folks at #debian-devel suggested me to use dbs, 
  
  Sorry, what do you exactly mean by dbs? 
 
 The 'dbs' package :-)
 
   Can anyone give me some clues, or could anyone that does/has done this
   give me a hand?
  
  What is exactly what you are having trouble with?
  Automating? Dealing with CVS stuff?
 
 Yes, I would like to know of an easy way to release frequent (weekly,
 quarterly, monthly) Debian packages of CVS snapshots of certain
 software like lopster and licq.
 

My AM suggested that it is really quite easy to merely apply the debian
directory to a cvs export rather that using the ever-so-complicated (and
evil) dbs.

Supposedly (I'm maybe wrong here) dbs does not give a clean .orig.tar.gz
(which is a bad thing)


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Re: Packaging CVS snapshots?

2001-12-03 Thread Amaya
Carlos Laviola dijo:
 Some folks at #debian-devel suggested me to use dbs, 

Sorry, what do you exactly mean by dbs? 

 Can anyone give me some clues, or could anyone that does/has done this
 give me a hand?

What is exactly what you are having trouble with?
Automating? Dealing with CVS stuff?

I am also very interested on this subject, but have limited experience.
Just `cvs export` or `cvs-buildpackage` so far :-)

[Probably should be getting more sleep and not being so inquisitive ;-)]

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: :' :-- ConcepciĆ³n Arenal.
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Re: Packaging CVS snapshots?

2001-12-03 Thread Carlos Laviola
On Mon, Dec 03, 2001 at 11:15:49PM +0100, Amaya wrote:
 Carlos Laviola dijo:
  Some folks at #debian-devel suggested me to use dbs, 
 
 Sorry, what do you exactly mean by dbs? 

The 'dbs' package :-)

  Can anyone give me some clues, or could anyone that does/has done this
  give me a hand?
 
 What is exactly what you are having trouble with?
 Automating? Dealing with CVS stuff?

Yes, I would like to know of an easy way to release frequent (weekly,
quarterly, monthly) Debian packages of CVS snapshots of certain
software like lopster and licq.

 I am also very interested on this subject, but have limited experience.
 Just `cvs export` or `cvs-buildpackage` so far :-)

That would be cool if one wanted to maintain a CVS repository of his
own with his Debian packages, I guess. No? I'm afraid what I want to
do here is different...

 [Probably should be getting more sleep and not being so inquisitive ;-)]

We all need to, apparently :))

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Re: Packaging CVS snapshots?

2001-12-03 Thread Duncan Findlay
On Mon, Dec 03, 2001 at 11:56:57PM -0200, Carlos Laviola wrote:
 On Mon, Dec 03, 2001 at 11:15:49PM +0100, Amaya wrote:
  Carlos Laviola dijo:
   Some folks at #debian-devel suggested me to use dbs, 
  
  Sorry, what do you exactly mean by dbs? 
 
 The 'dbs' package :-)
 
   Can anyone give me some clues, or could anyone that does/has done this
   give me a hand?
  
  What is exactly what you are having trouble with?
  Automating? Dealing with CVS stuff?
 
 Yes, I would like to know of an easy way to release frequent (weekly,
 quarterly, monthly) Debian packages of CVS snapshots of certain
 software like lopster and licq.
 

My AM suggested that it is really quite easy to merely apply the debian
directory to a cvs export rather that using the ever-so-complicated (and
evil) dbs.

Supposedly (I'm maybe wrong here) dbs does not give a clean .orig.tar.gz
(which is a bad thing)


-- 
Duncan Findlay



Packaging CVS snapshots?

2001-12-01 Thread Carlos Laviola

Hello, people,

I'm interested in packaging periodic CVS snapshots of licq and lopster
for my personal use. Some folks at #debian-devel suggested me to use
dbs, but I just couldn't figure out how yet. Can anyone give me some
clues, or could anyone that does/has done this give me a hand?

Thanks,
Carlos.

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Packaging CVS snapshots?

2001-12-01 Thread Carlos Laviola
Hello, people,

I'm interested in packaging periodic CVS snapshots of licq and lopster
for my personal use. Some folks at #debian-devel suggested me to use
dbs, but I just couldn't figure out how yet. Can anyone give me some
clues, or could anyone that does/has done this give me a hand?

Thanks,
Carlos.

-- 
 _ _  _| _  _  | _   . _ | _   Who controls the past, controls the future.
(_(_|| |(_)_)  |(_|\/|(_)|(_|  Who controls the present, controls the past.
http://laviola.org icq #981913 -- George Orwell, 1984
Where do you want to quit HavenCo today?