Packaging a Patched Kernel

2013-01-16 Thread Zachary Palmer

Hi, there.  I'm not an official Debian maintainer, but I'm building a custom
Debian kernel based on the bcache fork by Kent Overstreet
(http://bcache.evilpiepirate.org/). I've read through the 
relevant-seeming part

of the Debian Kernel Handbook and I think I have a build process in place.

This isn't quite as simple as dropping a new patch file in because I 
want to be

able to produce a package for the latest Debian Linux kernel with the latest
bcache changes patched in. So I've written a script that (1) gets the latest
kernel source via apt-get source linux, (2) generates a bcache patch 
using the
bcache git repo, (3) drops the patch into the Debian kernel sources 
using quilt,

and (4) builds the kernel. bcache changes the kernel ABI and I don't want to
have to linearize a versioning scheme for that, so I'm using an ABI 
number based

on the bcache git repo timestamps (prefixed, of course, with bcache).

So my first question is: is there a better, more sane way to do this? I 
don't
view this as a single fork from the official Debian kernels as much as I 
do a
patch to each of them. It just seems that there should be a simpler way 
to have
Debian build a patched kernel for me. (I know that Section 4.2.2 of the 
Kernel
Handbook describes a way to test patches, but I was looking for 
something a bit

more distributable than that.)

My second question revolves around distribution. I might want to throw these
packages into a Debian repository of my very own to save other people the
effort. Should I be marking my kernel packages as experimental in the 
changelog?
I doubt I'm supposed to use UNDISTRIBUTED, but I can't seem to find 
anywhere
that talks about which distributions should be used by third-party 
repository

maintainers.  If I do mark them experimental, is there a good way to version
them?  Using the required versioning scheme for experimental package 
names, I'd
have to use a version like 3.7.1-1~experimental, but I'm not sure if 
it's okay
to use a version number like that with my packages.  (I *will* be using 
an ABI
number like bcache-2013.01.11, so it won't collide with existing 
packages; I

just want to know if that version number is okay.)

Thanks much for reading. I'm sort of diving into this head-first. I 
don't expect
that my packages will ever be mainline (or as polished or nice as the 
mainline
packages are), but I wanted to throw together a solution for using 
bcache until
it is merged into the mainline Linux kernel (if it ever is). And now 
that I've

gone to this much effort, I sort of feel like amortizing that cost. :)


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Re: Packaging a Patched Kernel

2013-01-16 Thread Paul Wise
I would suggest that you take a look at the existing Linux patch
packages in Debian:

pabs@chianamo ~ $ aptitude search '(kernel|linux)-patch'
p   kernel-patch-atopacct -
save additional statistical counters for atop in the record
p   kernel-patch-atopcnt  -
additional statistical counters for atop
p   kernel-patch-scripts  -
Scripts to help dealing with packaged kernel patches
p   kernel-patch-viewos   -
View-OS - Kernel patch for better UMView performances
p   linux-patch-debianlogo-
Display a Debian logo on a framebuffer device at boottime
p   linux-patch-grsecurity2   -
grsecurity kernel patch
p   linux-patch-lustre-
Linux kernel patch for the Lustre Filesystem
p   linux-patch-tuxonice  -
TuxOnIce (aka suspend2) kernel patch
p   linux-patch-xenomai   -
Linux kernel patches for Xenomai

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Re: Packaging a Patched Kernel

2013-01-16 Thread Zachary Palmer



I would suggest that you take a look at the existing Linux patch
packages in Debian:

pabs@chianamo ~ $ aptitude search '(kernel|linux)-patch'
p   kernel-patch-atopacct -
save additional statistical counters for atop in the record
p   kernel-patch-atopcnt  -
additional statistical counters for atop
p   kernel-patch-scripts  -
Scripts to help dealing with packaged kernel patches
p   kernel-patch-viewos   -
View-OS - Kernel patch for better UMView performances
p   linux-patch-debianlogo-
Display a Debian logo on a framebuffer device at boottime
p   linux-patch-grsecurity2   -
grsecurity kernel patch
p   linux-patch-lustre-
Linux kernel patch for the Lustre Filesystem
p   linux-patch-tuxonice  -
TuxOnIce (aka suspend2) kernel patch
p   linux-patch-xenomai   -
Linux kernel patches for Xenomai

Thanks for the reply.  My understanding of the kernel patch packages was 
that
they were a way of distributing kernel packages so that kernel 
developers could
later include them in a Debian packaging project.  Am I correct?  It 
seems that
this would be a good way of distributing the patch I have chosen to use, 
but it
doesn't seem to help with deriving a new kernel package from an existing 
one.


In essence, my concern is the following.  Suppose I have built a new kernel
package using make-kpkg, pulled in the patch set the Debian kernels are 
using,
and added the bcache patch as well.  If the Debian kernel developers add 
a new
patch, the kernel I'm building won't include it.  This is the reason I'm 
trying
to derive my kernel package from an existing Debian kernel package: I'm 
assuming
that anything out of the Debian repo is the latest and greatest and I 
just want

to drop bcache on top of it.

That said, the process of explaining this has helped me understand why 
I'm not
exactly in the Debian packaging mainstream.  I think I'll keep doing 
what I'm

doing until it breaks (or until I find out that I'm breaking policy in some
way).

Does anyone have any thoughts about the distribution issue?  Are there any
special rules a third-party package repository should follow w.r.t. their
packages' distributions?

Thanks,

Zach


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