Re: RFS: lilo (updated package) (new Maintainer)

2010-12-13 Thread Niels Thykier
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On 2010-12-12 19:43, Joachim Wiedorn wrote:
 Hello Niels,
 
 Niels Thykier ni...@thykier.net wrote on 2010-12-12 17:18:
 
 [...]
 For the next non-Squeeze upload you may want to consider using the 3.0
 (quilt) format, since it supports binary files in the debian dir
 (insteand of the uudecode) as well as cleaning up in the d/rules file
 (e.g. using dh_clean instead of multiple rm -f etc)
 The next (already made) package with lilo 23.1 will use all new dh
 methods with format 3.0 (quilt). You can see the unofficial packages
 here:  http://lilo.alioth.debian.org/ftp/
 
 Also the old maintainer is still listed as the primary maintainer in
 d/copyright.
 With the new file format (see above) it is gone.
 

On 2010-12-12 17:46, Joachim Wiedorn wrote:
 I know that problem. The most problems come from the special script
 'liloconfig' which uses with debconf (but it should not do). It is a
 legacy.


Sounds good :) I was not sure how much you had done in your 23.1 package
(I did not check it)

On 2010-12-12 17:46, Joachim Wiedorn wrote:
 [...]
 Should I nevertheless do an update of the package to
 give the release team the chance to let it into Squeeze?
 [...]


In this case, I believe none of the changes mentioned here are worth
trouble for a second upload for Squeeze (given that the release team
were okay with the current package). Personally I would probably just do
them in the next Squeeze + 1 upload.

~Niels

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Re: RFS: lilo (updated package) (new Maintainer)

2010-12-12 Thread Niels Thykier
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On 2010-12-11 18:29, Joachim Wiedorn wrote:
 Dear mentors,
 

Hi,

I had a quick look at your package, though there are things I may have
missed.

 I am looking for a sponsor for the new version 1:22.8-9
 of my package lilo.
 
 It builds these binary packages:
 lilo   - LInux LOader - The Classic OS loader can load Linux and others
 lilo-doc   - Documentation for LILO (LInux LOader)
 
 The package appears to be lintian clean.
 

Too much copy paste from the RFS template :) The binary package has 11
warnings (it also triggers a number of less severe tags e.g. I). Anyhow,
considering you are targeting this for Squeeze, lintian-cleanless in
itself is not a priority.

 The upload would fix these bugs: 398957, 400642, 409285, 420587, 427507
 
 [...]
 I would be glad if someone uploaded this package for me.
 
 The CTTE disposed at 1st December that I am allowed to be the new 
 Maintainer for the LILO package:
 http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=587886#158
 
 This update of the LILO package (based on lilo 22.8-8.3) comes with a 
 small set of bugfixes to work better within Squeeze. The target is to 
 enter to testing before Squeeze will be released (I hope to the release
 team).
 

Your priority being what it is; you should aim for fixing critical or
highly annoying bugs with the minimal number of changes. If the diff
gets to large, the release team may choose to reject it because they
cannot keep track of the changes.

Have you talked with the release team about the bugs you are fixing? I
can understand the feeling of wanting to fix as much as possible, but
the release team may feel the bugs are not important enough for the
changes required.

 
 FYI here are the last changelog entry:
 
 lilo (1:22.8-9) unstable; urgency=low
 
   * New maintainter.
   * debian/patches:
 - Remove patch 16_geometry.patch for inaccessible disks and add
   information in README.Debian about using of 'inaccessible' option.
   (Closes: #409285, #400642)
 - Fix script checkit for newer gcc.
 - Fix for use LVM volume as root device. (Closes: #398957)
 - Fix for better computing vmlinux size, upgrade hints in
   README.Debian. (fixing sporadic failures).
   * Fix hook scripts: check for /sbin/lilo.
   * Add lacking file disk.com for creating test floppy.
   * Add universal menu image for debian, remove menu image for sarge.
   Update of template, postinst and postrm. (Closes: #420587, #427507)


   * Set source format 1.0. Add README.source file.

I recommend undoing at least the README.source file; first off, it does
not describe what it is supposed too and secondly even if you correct
it, it has no functional change. The format part is only 1 line, so it
is (probably) not going to disturb the reviewer too much.

   * Update watch file to new alioth project area.
   * debian/control:
 - Remove VCS urls and add new Homepage url.
 - Remove IA64 architecture (this is already status quo).
 - Remove double lines of Priority and Section.
 - Add package conflicts to grub-pc and grub-legacy.
 - Remove conflicts to manpages.
 - Bump to Standards-Version 3.9.1 (without changes).
 
 
 Kind regards
  Joachim Wiedorn


I had a look and:

- --- lilo-22.8/debian/lilo.postinst
+++ lilo-22.8-9/debian/lilo.postinst
[...]
+   # to be compatible to older debian package
+   if [ ! -e /boot/sarge.bmp ]; then
+   ln -sf debian.bmp /boot/sarge.bmp
fi
[...]

That debian.bmp, should that have been a /boot/debian.bmp?

In this snippet:
- --- lilo-22.8/debian/rules
+++ lilo-22.8-9/debian/rules
@@ -23,6 +23,7 @@
dh_testdir
make spotless
-rm -f build debian/files debian/lilo.substvars [...]
+   -rm -f  debian/*.debhelper.log debian/lilo-doc.substvars
-rm -f doc/*.dvi doc/*.ps doc/*.aux doc/*.toc doc/*.log
-rm -rf debian/lilo debian/lilo-doc debian/*.debhelper [...]
[...]

Most of these lines (incl. the one added) appear to be re-implementing
dh_clean. Replacing those lines with dh_clean /might/ be better (because
the release team knows what dh_clean does and do not need to verify the
handmade version)

There are also a lot of po file updates, which are not translation
changes. I presume they have been made by some tool (e.g.
debconf-updatepo from the clean target). As far as I can tell it has
just added a Language header and in some cases modified the translation
so that % is with its arguments (e.g. %\ns becomes \n%s).
  If these changes can sanely be avoided, then that might be a good idea
as well.

~Niels

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Re: RFS: lilo (updated package) (new Maintainer)

2010-12-12 Thread Jakub Wilk

* Niels Thykier ni...@thykier.net, 2010-12-12, 16:05:

--- lilo-22.8/debian/lilo.postinst
+++ lilo-22.8-9/debian/lilo.postinst
[...]
+   # to be compatible to older debian package
+   if [ ! -e /boot/sarge.bmp ]; then
+   ln -sf debian.bmp /boot/sarge.bmp
   fi
[...]

That debian.bmp, should that have been a /boot/debian.bmp?


Nope, this symlink should be relative, as per Policy 10.5.

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Re: RFS: lilo (updated package) (new Maintainer)

2010-12-12 Thread Niels Thykier
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On 2010-12-12 16:34, Jakub Wilk wrote:
 * Niels Thykier ni...@thykier.net, 2010-12-12, 16:05:
 --- lilo-22.8/debian/lilo.postinst
 +++ lilo-22.8-9/debian/lilo.postinst
 [...]
 +   # to be compatible to older debian package
 +   if [ ! -e /boot/sarge.bmp ]; then
 +   ln -sf debian.bmp /boot/sarge.bmp
fi
 [...]

 That debian.bmp, should that have been a /boot/debian.bmp?
 
 Nope, this symlink should be relative, as per Policy 10.5.
 

Thanks for the correction, I always manage to confuse myself with how ln
works.

~Niels

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Re: RFS: lilo (updated package) (new Maintainer)

2010-12-12 Thread Niels Thykier
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On 2010-12-12 16:05, Niels Thykier wrote:
 On 2010-12-11 18:29, Joachim Wiedorn wrote:
 [...]
 This update of the LILO package (based on lilo 22.8-8.3) comes with a 
 small set of bugfixes to work better within Squeeze. The target is to 
 enter to testing before Squeeze will be released (I hope to the release
 team).
 
 
 Your priority being what it is; you should aim for fixing critical or
 highly annoying bugs with the minimal number of changes. If the diff
 gets to large, the release team may choose to reject it because they
 cannot keep track of the changes.
 
 Have you talked with the release team about the bugs you are fixing? I
 can understand the feeling of wanting to fix as much as possible, but
 the release team may feel the bugs are not important enough for the
 changes required.
 
 [...]

Hi again,

I had a chat with Mehdi on IRC and they seemed positive about the
changes (even those I would have minimalised). I will have a second look
at it and upload to unstable unless I notice a real issue. :)

~Niels

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Re: RFS: lilo (updated package) (new Maintainer)

2010-12-12 Thread Niels Thykier
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On 2010-12-11 18:29, Joachim Wiedorn wrote:
 Dear mentors,
 
 I am looking for a sponsor for the new version 1:22.8-9
 of my package lilo.
 
 It builds these binary packages:
 lilo   - LInux LOader - The Classic OS loader can load Linux and others
 lilo-doc   - Documentation for LILO (LInux LOader)
 
 The package appears to be lintian clean.
 
 The upload would fix these bugs: 398957, 400642, 409285, 420587, 427507
 
 [...]
 
 Kind regards
  Joachim Wiedorn

Uploaded, thanks for your contribution to Debian. :)

For the next non-Squeeze upload you may want to consider using the 3.0
(quilt) format, since it supports binary files in the debian dir
(insteand of the uudecode) as well as cleaning up in the d/rules file
(e.g. using dh_clean instead of multiple rm -f etc)

Also the old maintainer is still listed as the primary maintainer in
d/copyright.

~Niels

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Re: RFS: lilo (updated package) (new Maintainer)

2010-12-12 Thread Joachim Wiedorn
Hello Niels,

Niels Thykier ni...@thykier.net wrote on 2010-12-12 16:05:

 I had a quick look at your package, though there are things I may have
 missed.
Thanks for your review.

 Too much copy paste from the RFS template :) The binary package has 11
 warnings (it also triggers a number of less severe tags e.g. I). Anyhow,
 considering you are targeting this for Squeeze, lintian-cleanless in
 itself is not a priority.
I know that problem. The most problems come from the special script
'liloconfig' which uses with debconf (but it should not do). It is a
legacy.

 Your priority being what it is; you should aim for fixing critical or
 highly annoying bugs with the minimal number of changes. If the diff
 gets to large, the release team may choose to reject it because they
 cannot keep track of the changes.
Thanks for this hint.

 Have you talked with the release team about the bugs you are fixing? I
 can understand the feeling of wanting to fix as much as possible, but
 the release team may feel the bugs are not important enough for the
 changes required.
I wrote to RT, there are some bugs which should be fixed for the 
next release (Squeeze). I hope they see the special situation of LILO
maintaining. With the next major upgrade to 23.1 much more bugs can be
fixed (for Squeeze +1).

* Set source format 1.0. Add README.source file.
 
 I recommend undoing at least the README.source file; first off, it does
 not describe what it is supposed too and secondly even if you correct
 it, it has no functional change. The format part is only 1 line, so it
 is (probably) not going to disturb the reviewer too much.
I have done it because of a lintian warning (because of format 1.0). But
yes you are right. And I could use lintian-overrides. Should I do it for
this one warning? I think this is cosmetic, isn't it?

 I had a look and:
 
 - --- lilo-22.8/debian/lilo.postinst
 +++ lilo-22.8-9/debian/lilo.postinst
 [...]
 +   # to be compatible to older debian package
 +   if [ ! -e /boot/sarge.bmp ]; then
 +   ln -sf debian.bmp /boot/sarge.bmp
 fi
 [...]
 
 That debian.bmp, should that have been a /boot/debian.bmp?
As Jakub already have said this is o.k. It seems stupid to take account
of a file (or link) with the old sarge name, but until now this is the
main menu bitmap of lilo and I think enough user have activated the use 
of this bitmap.

 In this snippet:
 - --- lilo-22.8/debian/rules
 +++ lilo-22.8-9/debian/rules
 @@ -23,6 +23,7 @@
 dh_testdir
 make spotless
 -rm -f build debian/files debian/lilo.substvars [...]
 +   -rm -f  debian/*.debhelper.log debian/lilo-doc.substvars
 -rm -f doc/*.dvi doc/*.ps doc/*.aux doc/*.toc doc/*.log
 -rm -rf debian/lilo debian/lilo-doc debian/*.debhelper [...]
 [...]
 
 Most of these lines (incl. the one added) appear to be re-implementing
 dh_clean. Replacing those lines with dh_clean /might/ be better (because
 the release team knows what dh_clean does and do not need to verify the
 handmade version)
That is also a legacy. But you are right: the best is to use dh_clean.
I will change this in the next update.

 There are also a lot of po file updates, which are not translation
 changes. I presume they have been made by some tool (e.g.
 debconf-updatepo from the clean target). As far as I can tell it has
 just added a Language header and in some cases modified the translation
Yes it it made because of debconf-updatepo, which runs in every debuild.
(see debian/rules). It is needless? Then I remove it in the next update.


Just in this minute I see my lilo package were sponsored by Julien BLACHE
jbla...@debian.org. Should I nevertheless do an update of the package to
give the release team the chance to let it into Squeeze?


Have a nice day,

Joachim (Germany)


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Re: RFS: lilo (updated package) (new Maintainer)

2010-12-12 Thread Joachim Wiedorn
Hello Niels,

Niels Thykier ni...@thykier.net wrote on 2010-12-12 17:18:

 Uploaded, thanks for your contribution to Debian. :)
Thank you very much! Now I hope to the release team.

 For the next non-Squeeze upload you may want to consider using the 3.0
 (quilt) format, since it supports binary files in the debian dir
 (insteand of the uudecode) as well as cleaning up in the d/rules file
 (e.g. using dh_clean instead of multiple rm -f etc)
The next (already made) package with lilo 23.1 will use all new dh
methods with format 3.0 (quilt). You can see the unofficial packages
here:  http://lilo.alioth.debian.org/ftp/

 Also the old maintainer is still listed as the primary maintainer in
 d/copyright.
With the new file format (see above) it is gone.


Have a nice day,

Joachim (Germany)


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RFS: lilo (updated package) (new Maintainer)

2010-12-11 Thread Joachim Wiedorn
Dear mentors,

I am looking for a sponsor for the new version 1:22.8-9
of my package lilo.

It builds these binary packages:
lilo   - LInux LOader - The Classic OS loader can load Linux and others
lilo-doc   - Documentation for LILO (LInux LOader)

The package appears to be lintian clean.

The upload would fix these bugs: 398957, 400642, 409285, 420587, 427507

The package can be found on mentors.debian.net:
- URL: http://mentors.debian.net/debian/pool/main/l/lilo
- Source repository: deb-src http://mentors.debian.net/debian unstable main
- dget http://mentors.debian.net/debian/pool/main/l/lilo/lilo_22.8-9.dsc

I would be glad if someone uploaded this package for me.

The CTTE disposed at 1st December that I am allowed to be the new 
Maintainer for the LILO package:
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=587886#158

This update of the LILO package (based on lilo 22.8-8.3) comes with a 
small set of bugfixes to work better within Squeeze. The target is to 
enter to testing before Squeeze will be released (I hope to the release
team).


FYI here are the last changelog entry:

lilo (1:22.8-9) unstable; urgency=low

  * New maintainter.
  * debian/patches:
- Remove patch 16_geometry.patch for inaccessible disks and add
  information in README.Debian about using of 'inaccessible' option.
  (Closes: #409285, #400642)
- Fix script checkit for newer gcc.
- Fix for use LVM volume as root device. (Closes: #398957)
- Fix for better computing vmlinux size, upgrade hints in
  README.Debian. (fixing sporadic failures).
  * Fix hook scripts: check for /sbin/lilo.
  * Add lacking file disk.com for creating test floppy.
  * Add universal menu image for debian, remove menu image for sarge.
  Update of template, postinst and postrm. (Closes: #420587, #427507)
  * Set source format 1.0. Add README.source file.
  * Update watch file to new alioth project area.
  * debian/control:
- Remove VCS urls and add new Homepage url.
- Remove IA64 architecture (this is already status quo).
- Remove double lines of Priority and Section.
- Add package conflicts to grub-pc and grub-legacy.
- Remove conflicts to manpages.
- Bump to Standards-Version 3.9.1 (without changes).


Kind regards
 Joachim Wiedorn


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