Re: [Pkg-ia32-libs-maintainers] Proper upgrade path for lib32v4l-{0, dev}?

2012-07-03 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
On Sun, Jul 01, 2012 at 10:01:28PM +0200, Sven Joachim wrote:
 [ CC'ing ia32-libs maintainers for their opinion. ]
 
 On 2012-07-01 16:04 +0200, Gregor Jasny wrote:
 
  Hello,
 
  currently my source package v4l-utils builds lib32v4l-0 and
  lib32v4l-dev packages on amd64. I'd like to get rid of them sooner
  than later and provide a proper upgrade path to multiarch
  packages. What's the best way to achieve this?
 
 Getting rid of reverse dependencies so these packages can be removed as
 unused, I think.
 
  As far as I can see this always involves manual action due to the
  required addition of the foreign i386 architecture.
 
 Correct, but the same is true for ia32-libs which is usually the reason
 why people install lib32v4l-0.

True. So I wouldn't worry about that. There is no way around it anyway.
 
  So should I simply drop the lib32 packages? The only dependent users
  of these packages are Skype and Google talk plugin users. They usually
  preload the libs via LD_PRELOAD. Due to the changed library paths when
  migrating from lib32 packages to multiarch they need to perform manual
  actions anyway.

If you provide a lib32v4l-0 you could put symlinks in there linking from
lib32 to lib/i486-linux-gnu/ so the old LD_PRELOAD still works.

  Or should I change the packages from:
 
  Package: lib32v4l-0
  Section: libs
  Architecture: amd64
  Depends: libv4l-0 (= ${binary:Version}),
   ${shlibs:Depends},
   ${misc:Depends}
 
  to virtual transition packages:
 
  Package: lib32v4l-0
  Section: libs
  Architecture: i386
  Pre-Depends: multiarch-support
  Depends: libv4l-0 (= ${binary:Version}),
   ${misc:Depends}
 
 The Pre-Depends: multiarch-support is not necessary, but you would need
 to mark lib32v4l-0 as Multi-Arch: foreign.

 However, since lib32v4l-0 is usually installed because ia32-libs depends
 on it, and the skype-debian_4.0.0.7-1_amd64.deb package I downloaded
 from Skype's website depends on ia32-libs but not lib32v4l-0: maybe a
 better upgrade path would be given by letting ia32-libs-i386 depend on
 libv4l-0?
 
 The ia32-libs-i386 package depends on all libraries formerly included in
 ia32-libs (well, as far as they are still available), but not on the
 i386 counterparts of the various lib32* packages ia32-libs depended
 upon.  This seems like a bug to me.

Yes it is. I didn't consider that ia32-libs depended on some lib32* that
isn't already a dependency of one of the included libs. I will have to go
over the depends again and check which need to be added to the control file.
 
 Cheers,
Sven

MfG
Goswin


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Re: [Pkg-ia32-libs-maintainers] Proper upgrade path for lib32v4l-{0, dev}?

2012-07-03 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
On Sun, Jul 01, 2012 at 10:27:34PM +0200, Gregor Jasny wrote:
 Hello,
 
 On 7/1/12 10:01 PM, Sven Joachim wrote:
  [ CC'ing ia32-libs maintainers for their opinion. ]
 
 Is the 20120616 or 20120701 version of ia32-libs supposed to go into Wheezy?

Yes, 20120616 is already unblocked and 20120701 was already OKed by the
release team.
 
MfG
Goswin


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