Re: A few questions after my first upload (sponsored)
On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 6:36 PM, Karl Goetz wrote: > I was thinking of a case where the package is built in a sid pbuilder > (I should probably have clarified that). Ah, ok. > Sadly testing it only has one option - run sid :/ Strictly speaking you should test on whatever distribution you're uploading to. Most of the time within Debian that would be sid of course. -- bye, pabs http://wiki.debian.org/PaulWise -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-mentors-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: A few questions after my first upload (sponsored)
On Mon, 11 Jan 2010 09:25:30 +0800 Paul Wise wrote: > On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 7:42 AM, Karl Goetz wrote: > > > I assume when you say 'unstable environment' you don't exclude the > > possibility of using a backported lintian on (say) stable. > > I'd specifically exclude that. You need to build under sid to ensure > the package will build and work properly in Debian's development > release. Since you are building/testing under sid, you may as well run I was thinking of a case where the package is built in a sid pbuilder (I should probably have clarified that). > sid lintian. While useful for ensuring backportability, building under > stable isn't useful if you want to contribute to the next Debian > release, which is what new and updated packages should be > concentrating on. Sadly testing it only has one option - run sid :/ kk -- Karl Goetz, (Kamping_Kaiser / VK5FOSS) Debian contributor / gNewSense Maintainer http://www.kgoetz.id.au No, I won't join your social networking group signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: A few questions after my first upload (sponsored)
Hi, Christoph Egger wrote: > At Sun, 10 Jan 2010 16:57:14 +0100, [...] > > Regards > > Christoph > Thanks for all the answers. And everybody else (include Christoph) thanks for pointing out that I should use unstable/sid for developing. This isn't a problem because I'm using a virtual machine for developing and building debian packages. I will upgrade my VM to sid today. Thanks again, Reinier -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-mentors-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: A few questions after my first upload (sponsored)
Ben Finney writes: > For such a package, you must build and test using the latest packages > from Debian ‘unstable’ suite (== ‘sid’), and nothing else suffices. This of course is relative to whichever suite of Debian one is uploading the package to. If one is uploading the package to a different suite, then that suite is the one in which the package needs to be built and tested successfully. -- \ “Drop your trousers here for best results.” —dry cleaner, | `\ Bangkok | _o__) | Ben Finney pgpUV0JnO63iF.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: A few questions after my first upload (sponsored)
Karl Goetz writes: > On Sun, 10 Jan 2010 17:22:19 +0100 > Iustin Pop wrote: > > > When building/uploading packages for unstable, you *must* use an > > unstable environment (including lintian). If you're running testing > > on your machine, then the build/verification should be done in an > > unstable chroot. > > I assume when you say 'unstable environment' you don't exclude the > possibility of using a backported lintian on (say) stable. You should feel free to do that, but it's not sufficient for a package that is intended to be uploaded to Debian. For such a package, you must build and test using the latest packages from Debian ‘unstable’ suite (== ‘sid’), and nothing else suffices. Tools such as ‘pbuilder’ allow you to meet this requirement using a ‘chroot(8)’ environment, so long as you still meet the “latest available packages” criterion by keeping it up to date. -- \“The whole area of [treating source code as intellectual | `\property] is almost assuring a customer that you are not going | _o__) to do any innovation in the future.” —Gary Barnett | Ben Finney pgpdmteeXBvxq.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: A few questions after my first upload (sponsored)
On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 7:42 AM, Karl Goetz wrote: > I assume when you say 'unstable environment' you don't exclude the > possibility of using a backported lintian on (say) stable. I'd specifically exclude that. You need to build under sid to ensure the package will build and work properly in Debian's development release. Since you are building/testing under sid, you may as well run sid lintian. While useful for ensuring backportability, building under stable isn't useful if you want to contribute to the next Debian release, which is what new and updated packages should be concentrating on. -- bye, pabs http://wiki.debian.org/PaulWise -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-mentors-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: A few questions after my first upload (sponsored)
On Sun, 10 Jan 2010 17:22:19 +0100 Iustin Pop wrote: > On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 04:57:14PM +0100, Reinier Haasjes wrote: > > Hi, > > > > 2 days ago Martin uploaded Aiccu version 20070115-11 for me, that's > > all oke. But now on the PTS-page [1] there are a few messages: > > > > > todo > > > * Lintian reports 4 warnings about this package. You should > > > make the package lintian clean getting rid of them. > > When I uploaded the package was lintian clean (mentors.d.o also told > > me), is this because lintian.d.o runs on sid and a newer version > > (2.3.1) of lintian (I'm running testing/2.2.18) > > When building/uploading packages for unstable, you *must* use an > unstable environment (including lintian). If you're running testing on > your machine, then the build/verification should be done in an > unstable chroot. I assume when you say 'unstable environment' you don't exclude the possibility of using a backported lintian on (say) stable. kk > regards, > iustin > > -- Karl Goetz, (Kamping_Kaiser / VK5FOSS) Debian contributor / gNewSense Maintainer http://www.kgoetz.id.au No, I won't join your social networking group signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: A few questions after my first upload (sponsored)
Joachim Wiedorn writes: > Hello, > > Reinier Haasjes wrote: > > When I uploaded the package was lintian clean (mentors.d.o also told > > me), is this because lintian.d.o runs on sid and a newer version > > (2.3.1) of lintian (I'm running testing/2.2.18) > Download the sid version (-all) of lintian and install it with dpkg -i. More importantly, when preparing a package for upload to Debian, always build and test using the latest Debian ‘sid’. -- \ “We must respect the other fellow's religion, but only in the | `\ sense and to the extent that we respect his theory that his | _o__) wife is beautiful and his children smart.” —Henry L. Mencken | Ben Finney pgpFcGpKHB3yq.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: A few questions after my first upload (sponsored)
Hello, Reinier Haasjes wrote: > > * Lintian reports 4 warnings about this package. You should make > > the package lintian clean getting rid of them. > When I uploaded the package was lintian clean (mentors.d.o also told > me), is this because lintian.d.o runs on sid and a newer version (2.3.1) > of lintian (I'm running testing/2.2.18) Download the sid version (-all) of lintian and install it with dpkg -i. > > * mentors.debian.net has version 20070115-11 of this package, you > > should consider sponsoring its upload. > Am I suppose to delete this package from mentors or will this message > disappear when it migrates to testing? Only a temporary problem. Wait some days and it will gone. > > * out of date on mipsel: aiccu (from 20070115-10) > I can see the package will not build on mipsel because of "unmet > dependencies". Does somebody had to manualy confirm this to let the Look at the logfile: https://buildd.debian.org/fetch.cgi?&pkg=aiccu&ver=20070115-11&arch=mipsel&stamp=1263125794&file=log I would say it is not a problem of your package but a problem of some packages in sid (libgnutls-dev, docbook-to-man, quilt). Sometimes it can be a local problem of the debian server, who should compile. I would wait a week (or two). Fondest regards, Joachim Wiedorn signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: A few questions after my first upload (sponsored)
At Sun, 10 Jan 2010 16:57:14 +0100, Reinier Haasjes wrote: > > Hi, > > 2 days ago Martin uploaded Aiccu version 20070115-11 for me, that's all > oke. But now on the PTS-page [1] there are a few messages: > > > * mentors.debian.net has version 20070115-11 of this package, you > > should consider sponsoring its upload. > Am I suppose to delete this package from mentors or will this message > disappear when it migrates to testing? Normally mentors deletes the package automatically when it appears in unstable so you'll probably just have to wait a little longer. If it won't disappear then it's probably some bug in the mentors software and manually deleting should work fine as well. > > > > testing migration > > excuses: > > > > * Too young, only 2 of 10 days old > This one I understand. > > > * out of date on mipsel: aiccu (from 20070115-10) > I can see the package will not build on mipsel because of "unmet > dependencies". Does somebody had to manualy confirm this to let the > message go away (that's why it's "out of date") That looks like some temporary problem to me. If that is still there in a day or 2 you could get in touch with mip...@buildd.debian.org and ask for a retry. > > * Not considered > I assume this is because of the two reasons above. Jep that's correct. > Thanks in advance. > > Best regards, > Reinier > > [1] http://packages.qa.debian.org/a/aiccu.html Regards Christoph pgpUCvSQjZsQd.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: A few questions after my first upload (sponsored)
At Sun, 10 Jan 2010 17:22:19 +0100, Iustin Pop wrote: > > On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 04:57:14PM +0100, Reinier Haasjes wrote: > > Hi, > > > > 2 days ago Martin uploaded Aiccu version 20070115-11 for me, that's all > > oke. But now on the PTS-page [1] there are a few messages: > > > > > todo > > > * Lintian reports 4 warnings about this package. You should make the > > > package lintian clean getting rid of them. > > When I uploaded the package was lintian clean (mentors.d.o also told > > me), is this because lintian.d.o runs on sid and a newer version (2.3.1) > > of lintian (I'm running testing/2.2.18) > > When building/uploading packages for unstable, you *must* use an > unstable environment (including lintian). If you're running testing on > your machine, then the build/verification should be done in an unstable > chroot. > > regards, > iustin I found it quite usefull to pinn debian-policy and lintian from unstable in my testing environment. Both of them don't drag in lots of unstable and for packaging you want them available on your work system in a up-to-date version really Regards Christoph pgp6NiMsI52Mk.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: A few questions after my first upload (sponsored)
On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 04:57:14PM +0100, Reinier Haasjes wrote: > Hi, > > 2 days ago Martin uploaded Aiccu version 20070115-11 for me, that's all > oke. But now on the PTS-page [1] there are a few messages: > > > todo > > * Lintian reports 4 warnings about this package. You should make the > > package lintian clean getting rid of them. > When I uploaded the package was lintian clean (mentors.d.o also told > me), is this because lintian.d.o runs on sid and a newer version (2.3.1) > of lintian (I'm running testing/2.2.18) When building/uploading packages for unstable, you *must* use an unstable environment (including lintian). If you're running testing on your machine, then the build/verification should be done in an unstable chroot. regards, iustin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-mentors-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
