Re: Free ROM, Non-free Build Tools

2001-02-12 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Mon, 12 Feb 2001, Ben Collins wrote:

> > I'm not sure if this was covered in the last round of ROM-talks, but:
> >
> > If I have free source to a ROM image (GPL, say) for a free emulator,
> > but the tools to build the image are DFSG non-free, does the resulting
> > binary image need to go into non-free or contrib?
> >
> > I'm guessing contrib, and then the emulator goes into contrib, too,
> > right?  Unless there are some free build tools?
>
> If the build-tools are found in the Debian non-free archive, then
> contrib. If you have to compile this on your local machine, and the
> tools are not in Debian, then non-free.
>...

No, if the program itself is DFSG-free but requires non-free tools to
build it belongs to contrib.

Policy says:

<--  snip  -->

2.1.3. The contrib section
--

 Every package in "contrib" and "non-US/contrib" must comply with the
 DFSG.

 Examples of packages which would be included in "contrib" or
 "non-US/contrib" are
* free packages which require "contrib", "non-free" packages or
  packages which are not in our archive at all for compilation or
  execution,
...

<--  snip  -->

> Ben

cu,
Adrian

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Re: Free ROM, Non-free Build Tools

2001-02-12 Thread Ben Collins
On Mon, Feb 12, 2001 at 08:10:49AM -0500, Itai Zukerman wrote:
> I'm not sure if this was covered in the last round of ROM-talks, but:
> 
> If I have free source to a ROM image (GPL, say) for a free emulator,
> but the tools to build the image are DFSG non-free, does the resulting
> binary image need to go into non-free or contrib?
> 
> I'm guessing contrib, and then the emulator goes into contrib, too,
> right?  Unless there are some free build tools?

If the build-tools are found in the Debian non-free archive, then
contrib. If you have to compile this on your local machine, and the
tools are not in Debian, then non-free.

That's just MHO, but I think it fits. Remember in the latter case
(non-free), you have to supply the compiled ROM aswell as the source,
in the .tar.gz. We need to be able to rebuild the package without the
tools.

Ben

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Re: Free ROM, Non-free Build Tools

2001-02-12 Thread Adrian Bunk

On Mon, 12 Feb 2001, Ben Collins wrote:

> > I'm not sure if this was covered in the last round of ROM-talks, but:
> >
> > If I have free source to a ROM image (GPL, say) for a free emulator,
> > but the tools to build the image are DFSG non-free, does the resulting
> > binary image need to go into non-free or contrib?
> >
> > I'm guessing contrib, and then the emulator goes into contrib, too,
> > right?  Unless there are some free build tools?
>
> If the build-tools are found in the Debian non-free archive, then
> contrib. If you have to compile this on your local machine, and the
> tools are not in Debian, then non-free.
>...

No, if the program itself is DFSG-free but requires non-free tools to
build it belongs to contrib.

Policy says:

<--  snip  -->

2.1.3. The contrib section
--

 Every package in "contrib" and "non-US/contrib" must comply with the
 DFSG.

 Examples of packages which would be included in "contrib" or
 "non-US/contrib" are
* free packages which require "contrib", "non-free" packages or
  packages which are not in our archive at all for compilation or
  execution,
...

<--  snip  -->

> Ben

cu,
Adrian

-- 

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sondern weil wir sie nicht wagen sind sie schwierig.


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Re: Free ROM, Non-free Build Tools

2001-02-12 Thread Ben Collins

On Mon, Feb 12, 2001 at 08:10:49AM -0500, Itai Zukerman wrote:
> I'm not sure if this was covered in the last round of ROM-talks, but:
> 
> If I have free source to a ROM image (GPL, say) for a free emulator,
> but the tools to build the image are DFSG non-free, does the resulting
> binary image need to go into non-free or contrib?
> 
> I'm guessing contrib, and then the emulator goes into contrib, too,
> right?  Unless there are some free build tools?

If the build-tools are found in the Debian non-free archive, then
contrib. If you have to compile this on your local machine, and the
tools are not in Debian, then non-free.

That's just MHO, but I think it fits. Remember in the latter case
(non-free), you have to supply the compiled ROM aswell as the source,
in the .tar.gz. We need to be able to rebuild the package without the
tools.

Ben

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