Re: Sponsoring of packages
Hello, Bartosz Fenski aka fEnIo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote : > Most things has been answered already, so I have only two questions. > What packages are we talking about? I mean what program would you > like to see in Debian? Right now I am "developing" a hitlist to get a clear strategy. Most of the stuff is already in Debian, but to this time I cannot give a clear statement. bis dahin/kind regards Martin Mewes -- FAQ fuer suse-linux@suse.com -> http://www.suse-faq.de.vu/ FAQ fuer debian-user-german@lists.debian.org -> http://www.de.debian.org/debian-user-german-FAQ/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Sponsoring of packages
On Tue, Jun 07, 2005 at 09:33:33PM -0400, Jaldhar H. Vyas wrote: > On Tue, 7 Jun 2005, Martin Mewes wrote: > > >I thought it would be a good > >idea to "sponsor" DDs in this way to keep up the valued work on special > >things which are of interest for me. > > Me too. However, we don't want to start a dangerous precedent of maintainers > holding their packages for ransom. I suggest you first follow the normal RFP > (Request For Package) procedure and only if that fails go the payment route. > (If however, you do go down that route, please note that I am available :-) > I don't think that it will set a precedent. That is like saying DDs being employed by a company that does any Debian-related or Linux-related work is setting a bad precedent. Most DDs work on Debian in their spare time. It is just that for the right price they are willing to spare *more* time. There is nothing wrong with that. If you need something now, you should be prepared to pay for it. If not, you sould be prepared to wait. -Roberto -- Roberto C. Sanchez http://familiasanchez.net/~sanchezr pgp79Sw6KLv2T.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Sponsoring of packages
On Tue, 7 Jun 2005, Martin Mewes wrote: I once saw an article that a DD orphaned a package and would only be able continue the work if someone pays for it as his free time is limited and he need to get a life somehow. For the benefit of those unfamiliar with the situation, MEPIS (a Debian deriative distribution) needed new webmin packages straight away. I replied that being under a cash crunch, I had to look for gainful employment so new webmin packages were a low priority. I gave them three choices. 1. Wait till I or someone else got around to it. 2. Remove my need to go money grubbing 3. Make the packages themselves and I would upload them to the archive. Happily they did choose 2 and I built the packages they wanted on their schedule. I thought it would be a good idea to "sponsor" DDs in this way to keep up the valued work on special things which are of interest for me. Me too. However, we don't want to start a dangerous precedent of maintainers holding their packages for ransom. I suggest you first follow the normal RFP (Request For Package) procedure and only if that fails go the payment route. (If however, you do go down that route, please note that I am available :-) -- Jaldhar H. Vyas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> La Salle Debain - http://www.braincells.com/debian/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Sponsoring of packages
On Tue, Jun 07, 2005 at 04:51:18PM +0200, Martin Mewes wrote: > maybe this is a most wanted question, but maybe someone can dump the > information to me. > > I am not a developer but I have started trying to pack things for debian > but somehow it is to complex for me. So I thought about to sponsor some > packages and my question is: > > If I am willing to send out some Paypal-Cash and some package-guru out > there is willing to do the job, is this the proper place to seek out > for this companion? Most things has been answered already, so I have only two questions. What packages are we talking about? I mean what program would you like to see in Debian? Are they free software or do you want to see non-official packages outside Debian cause they don't comply DFSG? regards fEnIo -- ,''`. Bartosz Fenski | mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | pgp:0x13fefc40 | irc:fEnIo : :' : 32-050 Skawina - Glowackiego 3/15 - w. malopolskie - Poland `. `' phone:+48602383548 | proud Debian maintainer and user `- http://skawina.eu.org | jid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | rlu:172001 signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Sponsoring of packages
On Tue, Jun 07, 2005 at 05:19:25PM +0200, Martin Mewes wrote: > Hello, > > Jeroen van Wolffelaar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote : > > > Be aware that in Debian, 'sponsoring a package' is the wording > > typically used for a Debian Developer checking, signing and uploading > > a package prepared by a non-developer, and has nothing to do with > > money. Be aware of this possible confusion, and otherwise, you can > > check > > http://www.debian.org/consultants/, although that's not precisely > > what you want, maybe, but it comes close. > > Thanks for pointing this out :-) > > Some folks answered me to be disturbed about my posting. Saying if > someone starts to pay for packaging some DDs will only "sponsor" for > money in the future. This was/would not be intented. > > I once saw an article that a DD orphaned a package and would only be > able continue the work if someone pays for it as his free time is > limited and he need to get a life somehow. I thought it would be a good > idea to "sponsor" DDs in this way to keep up the valued work on special > things which are of interest for me. I think there really is nothing wrong with people paying money to individuals to do work on Debian. This is in various forms already being done, and there are certainly a number of DD's, and also other maintainers, that are willing to accept money to spend their time on area's in Debian that the money-provider wants. That only results in more work getting done on Debian, after all. --Jeroen -- Jeroen van Wolffelaar [EMAIL PROTECTED] (also for Jabber & MSN; ICQ: 33944357) http://Jeroen.A-Eskwadraat.nl -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Sponsoring of packages
Hello, Jeroen van Wolffelaar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote : > Be aware that in Debian, 'sponsoring a package' is the wording > typically used for a Debian Developer checking, signing and uploading > a package prepared by a non-developer, and has nothing to do with > money. Be aware of this possible confusion, and otherwise, you can > check > http://www.debian.org/consultants/, although that's not precisely > what you want, maybe, but it comes close. Thanks for pointing this out :-) Some folks answered me to be disturbed about my posting. Saying if someone starts to pay for packaging some DDs will only "sponsor" for money in the future. This was/would not be intented. I once saw an article that a DD orphaned a package and would only be able continue the work if someone pays for it as his free time is limited and he need to get a life somehow. I thought it would be a good idea to "sponsor" DDs in this way to keep up the valued work on special things which are of interest for me. bis dahin/kind regards Martin Mewes -- Sicherheitsmeldungen fuer SuSE Linux bekommt man hier: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Sponsoring of packages
On Tue, Jun 07, 2005 at 04:51:18PM +0200, Martin Mewes wrote: > Hi all, > > maybe this is a most wanted question, but maybe someone can dump the > information to me. > > I am not a developer but I have started trying to pack things for debian > but somehow it is to complex for me. So I thought about to sponsor some > packages and my question is: > > If I am willing to send out some Paypal-Cash and some package-guru out > there is willing to do the job, is this the proper place to seek out > for this companion? Be aware that in Debian, 'sponsoring a package' is the wording typically used for a Debian Developer checking, signing and uploading a package prepared by a non-developer, and has nothing to do with money. Be aware of this possible confusion, and otherwise, you can check http://www.debian.org/consultants/, although that's not precisely what you want, maybe, but it comes close. Just asking here might in the end give you the best results, maybe someone is willing to help you regardless of payement too. --Jeroen -- Jeroen van Wolffelaar [EMAIL PROTECTED] (also for Jabber & MSN; ICQ: 33944357) http://Jeroen.A-Eskwadraat.nl -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sponsoring of packages
Hi all, maybe this is a most wanted question, but maybe someone can dump the information to me. I am not a developer but I have started trying to pack things for debian but somehow it is to complex for me. So I thought about to sponsor some packages and my question is: If I am willing to send out some Paypal-Cash and some package-guru out there is willing to do the job, is this the proper place to seek out for this companion? bis dahin/kind regards Martin Mewes -- Sicherheitsmeldungen fuer SuSE Linux bekommt man hier: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
