Re: how long does it take to find an AM
Duncan Findlay wrote: The NM process is full of waiting. Consider it more of a test of devotion rather than a nuisance. It'll happen eventually, I believe most of this stuff has to be done manually, and usually by some of the busiest people Debian has. -- Duncan Findlay, who had to wait 7 months, 5 days for a phone call from the DAM, and DAM approval. I think I waited longer than that after AM approval although I didn't require a phone call in the end. The DAM's got a tough job. Debian could easily collapse in on itself if too many guys are just after a d.o address for their resumes or whatever and upload a few packages and are never seen again. The best indicator that a guy is going to stick around is to look at what he's done before approval. So pick an area you like and keep poking people until you're able to contribute. Anyhow, just saying keep your peckers up guys. It's worth the wait. Rick -- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: how long does it take to find an AM
Duncan Findlay wrote: The NM process is full of waiting. Consider it more of a test of devotion rather than a nuisance. It'll happen eventually, I believe most of this stuff has to be done manually, and usually by some of the busiest people Debian has. -- Duncan Findlay, who had to wait 7 months, 5 days for a phone call from the DAM, and DAM approval. I think I waited longer than that after AM approval although I didn't require a phone call in the end. The DAM's got a tough job. Debian could easily collapse in on itself if too many guys are just after a d.o address for their resumes or whatever and upload a few packages and are never seen again. The best indicator that a guy is going to stick around is to look at what he's done before approval. So pick an area you like and keep poking people until you're able to contribute. Anyhow, just saying keep your peckers up guys. It's worth the wait. Rick -- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
how long does it take to find an AM
Hello, I started my NM-process at the 5. July 2002, and it was checked by my advocate at the 10. July 2002. Now 25 days (more than 3 weeks) passed, and still no AM contacted me. I know that the NM-team has a hard job, but I just want to ask how long you have to wait normally at the moment. My advocate had to wait about 1 week, but this is a few years ago, I think. What about idle-time now? bye mejo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: how long does it take to find an AM
On Tue, Jun 25, 2002 at 11:01:21AM +0200, Jonas Meurer wrote: I started my NM-process at the 5. July 2002, and it was checked by my advocate at the 10. July 2002. Now 25 days (more than 3 weeks) passed, and still no AM contacted me. I know that the NM-team has a hard job, but I just want to ask how long you have to wait normally at the moment. My advocate had to wait about 1 week, but this is a few years ago, I think. What about idle-time now? From http://nm.debian.org/index.php this morning: Awaiting AM assignment: Count 11 Mode Days 30 Median Days 34 Average Days 38 Max Days 149 It takes time, but the end result is worth it! -- Kevin Rosenberg (just assigned my AM yesterday) [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: how long does it take to find an AM
On Tue, Jun 25, 2002 at 11:01:21AM +0200, Jonas Meurer wrote: ^^ Hello, I started my NM-process at the 5. July 2002, and it was checked by my ^^^ advocate at the 10. July 2002. Now 25 days (more than 3 weeks) passed, ^^ and still no AM contacted me. I know that the NM-team has a hard job, but I just want to ask how long you have to wait normally at the moment. My advocate had to wait about 1 week, but this is a few years ago, I think. What about idle-time now? How do these numbers fit? Apart from that, there's nothing wrong in getting prepared for the AM process now; You can actually complete the ID, TS and PP-procedures in less than 48 hours if you are well prepared. -- Rune B. Broberg -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: how long does it take to find an AM
Jonas Meurer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I started my NM-process at the 5. July 2002, and it was checked by my advocate at the 10. July 2002. Now 25 days (more than 3 weeks) passed, Wait another 2 - 3 weeks. Go and read all at nm.debian.org, including the templates for the AM. Prepare you for the questions (there may be additional Questions or some left out, depends on your AM) so you can give fast replies. Then you are through that in a few days. -- begin OjE-ist-scheisse.txt bye, Joerg Encrypted Mail preferred! Registered Linux User #97793 @ http://counter.li.org end -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: how long does it take to find an AM
On Tue, Jun 25, 2002 at 11:01:21AM +0200, Jonas Meurer wrote: Hello, I started my NM-process at the 5. July 2002, and it was checked by my advocate at the 10. July 2002. Now 25 days (more than 3 weeks) passed, and still no AM contacted me. I know that the NM-team has a hard job, but I just want to ask how long you have to wait normally at the moment. My advocate had to wait about 1 week, but this is a few years ago, I think. What about idle-time now? I waited 6 weeks before AM assigned. (I had advocate when applied.) My AM does not yet contact me few days while I see his posting on ML. But right after I moved to cue with AM, many people got AM. Somewhat random. You can see this nm.debin.org/nmlist.php. People are busy now due to maybe woody release, maybe World Cup, maybe vacation , ... Good luck. -- +++ + Osamu Aoki [EMAIL PROTECTED] @ Cupertino, CA USA + -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: how long does it take to find an AM
I waited 6 weeks before AM assigned. (I had advocate when applied.) My AM does not yet contact me few days while I see his posting on ML. But right after I moved to cue with AM, many people got AM. Somewhat random. You can see this nm.debin.org/nmlist.php. People are busy now due to maybe woody release, maybe World Cup, maybe vacation , ... bof, I am still no the No Advocate list :) and my package is still in debian-limbo I mainly want to package the sofware because 1. I am interested in the package 2. I am interested in debian, the scripts and the QA rules 3. It's fun to contact upstream, pointing out a bug, hunting the sources for bugs, ... 4. Being appreciated for the job done 5. I am applying deb devel to meet new ppl, and get their expert advice on a number of things AND because I think that the software I am packaging is so good that other ppl may want to use it without bothering to package or destroying their software db. I think 5 is nice, but the ultimate reasons should be 1-3. I haven't read For the fun of it yet, but I certainly understand the title. -- greetz, marc BOFH excuse #186: permission denied pgp Key ID: 0xD3562DE1 Key fingerprint = 890C E47F 1589 F240 9CC8 C60C 510A 63D3 D356 2DE1 Linux mykene 2.4.19-pre4 #1 Tue Apr 2 22:47:06 CEST 2002 i686 unknown msg06496/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: how long does it take to find an AM
On Tue, Jun 25, 2002 at 04:35:39PM +0200, Marc Leeman wrote: I waited 6 weeks before AM assigned. (I had advocate when applied.) My AM does not yet contact me few days while I see his posting on ML. But right after I moved to cue with AM, many people got AM. Somewhat random. You can see this nm.debin.org/nmlist.php. People are busy now due to maybe woody release, maybe World Cup, maybe vacation , ... bof, I am still no the No Advocate list :) and my package is still in debian-limbo I mainly want to package the software because 1. I am interested in the package 2. I am interested in debian, the scripts and the QA rules 3. It's fun to contact upstream, pointing out a bug, hunting the sources for bugs, ... 4. Being appreciated for the job done 5. I am applying deb devel to meet new ppl, and get their expert advice on a number of things AND because I think that the software I am packaging is so good that other ppl may want to use it without bothering to package or destroying their software db. I think 5 is nice, but the ultimate reasons should be 1-3. I haven't read For the fun of it yet, but I certainly understand the title. I think filing bugs with good patches and get to know with the active package managers are good meeting place for NM applicant. Waiting is very ineffective. Participating is the way to go. :) For me, one of the DD told me to join before applying to NM because he got sick receiving patch :) Just kidding. Osamu -- +++ + Osamu Aoki [EMAIL PROTECTED] @ Cupertino, CA USA + -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: how long does it take to find an AM
On Tue, Jun 25, 2002 at 11:01:21AM +0200, Jonas Meurer wrote: Hello, I started my NM-process at the 5. July 2002, and it was checked by my advocate at the 10. July 2002. Now 25 days (more than 3 weeks) passed, and still no AM contacted me. I know that the NM-team has a hard job, but I just want to ask how long you have to wait normally at the moment. My advocate had to wait about 1 week, but this is a few years ago, I think. What about idle-time now? The NM process is full of waiting. Consider it more of a test of devotion rather than a nuisance. It'll happen eventually, I believe most of this stuff has to be done manually, and usually by some of the busiest people Debian has. -- Duncan Findlay, who had to wait 7 months, 5 days for a phone call from the DAM, and DAM approval. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: how long does it take to find an AM
On Tue, 25 Jun 2002, Osamu Aoki wrote: On Tue, Jun 25, 2002 at 04:35:39PM +0200, Marc Leeman wrote: I waited 6 weeks before AM assigned. (I had advocate when applied.) My AM does not yet contact me few days while I see his posting on ML. I am trying to get a time window to process all my NMs in a batch. FWIW, I am the only AM that accepted the challenge of creating the TS tests for documentation developers, so please bear with my slowness. You guys assigned to me are being guinea pigs that will crash-test TS for documentation developers, and this has to be done right if I don't want you four to be held forever at DAM stage. I cannot process NM during work time, but I *can* read the lists and work in the Cyrus packages because it is directly related to my work. That's why I have time for some stuff like cyrus, and little time for fcron, fetchmail, or NM until after debconf. -- One disk to rule them all, One disk to find them. One disk to bring them all and in the darkness grind them. In the Land of Redmond where the shadows lie. -- The Silicon Valley Tarot Henrique Holschuh -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
how long does it take to find an AM
Hello, I started my NM-process at the 5. July 2002, and it was checked by my advocate at the 10. July 2002. Now 25 days (more than 3 weeks) passed, and still no AM contacted me. I know that the NM-team has a hard job, but I just want to ask how long you have to wait normally at the moment. My advocate had to wait about 1 week, but this is a few years ago, I think. What about idle-time now? bye mejo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: how long does it take to find an AM
On Tue, Jun 25, 2002 at 11:01:21AM +0200, Jonas Meurer wrote: I started my NM-process at the 5. July 2002, and it was checked by my advocate at the 10. July 2002. Now 25 days (more than 3 weeks) passed, and still no AM contacted me. I know that the NM-team has a hard job, but I just want to ask how long you have to wait normally at the moment. My advocate had to wait about 1 week, but this is a few years ago, I think. What about idle-time now? From http://nm.debian.org/index.php this morning: Awaiting AM assignment: Count 11 Mode Days 30 Median Days 34 Average Days 38 Max Days 149 It takes time, but the end result is worth it! -- Kevin Rosenberg (just assigned my AM yesterday) [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: how long does it take to find an AM
On Tue, Jun 25, 2002 at 11:01:21AM +0200, Jonas Meurer wrote: ^^ Hello, I started my NM-process at the 5. July 2002, and it was checked by my ^^^ advocate at the 10. July 2002. Now 25 days (more than 3 weeks) passed, ^^ and still no AM contacted me. I know that the NM-team has a hard job, but I just want to ask how long you have to wait normally at the moment. My advocate had to wait about 1 week, but this is a few years ago, I think. What about idle-time now? How do these numbers fit? Apart from that, there's nothing wrong in getting prepared for the AM process now; You can actually complete the ID, TS and PP-procedures in less than 48 hours if you are well prepared. -- Rune B. Broberg -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: how long does it take to find an AM
Jonas Meurer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I started my NM-process at the 5. July 2002, and it was checked by my advocate at the 10. July 2002. Now 25 days (more than 3 weeks) passed, Wait another 2 - 3 weeks. Go and read all at nm.debian.org, including the templates for the AM. Prepare you for the questions (there may be additional Questions or some left out, depends on your AM) so you can give fast replies. Then you are through that in a few days. -- begin OjE-ist-scheisse.txt bye, Joerg Encrypted Mail preferred! Registered Linux User #97793 @ http://counter.li.org end -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: how long does it take to find an AM
On Tue, Jun 25, 2002 at 11:01:21AM +0200, Jonas Meurer wrote: Hello, I started my NM-process at the 5. July 2002, and it was checked by my advocate at the 10. July 2002. Now 25 days (more than 3 weeks) passed, and still no AM contacted me. I know that the NM-team has a hard job, but I just want to ask how long you have to wait normally at the moment. My advocate had to wait about 1 week, but this is a few years ago, I think. What about idle-time now? I waited 6 weeks before AM assigned. (I had advocate when applied.) My AM does not yet contact me few days while I see his posting on ML. But right after I moved to cue with AM, many people got AM. Somewhat random. You can see this nm.debin.org/nmlist.php. People are busy now due to maybe woody release, maybe World Cup, maybe vacation , ... Good luck. -- +++ + Osamu Aoki [EMAIL PROTECTED] @ Cupertino, CA USA + -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: how long does it take to find an AM
I waited 6 weeks before AM assigned. (I had advocate when applied.) My AM does not yet contact me few days while I see his posting on ML. But right after I moved to cue with AM, many people got AM. Somewhat random. You can see this nm.debin.org/nmlist.php. People are busy now due to maybe woody release, maybe World Cup, maybe vacation , ... bof, I am still no the No Advocate list :) and my package is still in debian-limbo I mainly want to package the sofware because 1. I am interested in the package 2. I am interested in debian, the scripts and the QA rules 3. It's fun to contact upstream, pointing out a bug, hunting the sources for bugs, ... 4. Being appreciated for the job done 5. I am applying deb devel to meet new ppl, and get their expert advice on a number of things AND because I think that the software I am packaging is so good that other ppl may want to use it without bothering to package or destroying their software db. I think 5 is nice, but the ultimate reasons should be 1-3. I haven't read For the fun of it yet, but I certainly understand the title. -- greetz, marc BOFH excuse #186: permission denied pgp Key ID: 0xD3562DE1 Key fingerprint = 890C E47F 1589 F240 9CC8 C60C 510A 63D3 D356 2DE1 Linux mykene 2.4.19-pre4 #1 Tue Apr 2 22:47:06 CEST 2002 i686 unknown pgpCSWnhV0Z62.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: how long does it take to find an AM
On Tue, Jun 25, 2002 at 04:35:39PM +0200, Marc Leeman wrote: I waited 6 weeks before AM assigned. (I had advocate when applied.) My AM does not yet contact me few days while I see his posting on ML. But right after I moved to cue with AM, many people got AM. Somewhat random. You can see this nm.debin.org/nmlist.php. People are busy now due to maybe woody release, maybe World Cup, maybe vacation , ... bof, I am still no the No Advocate list :) and my package is still in debian-limbo I mainly want to package the software because 1. I am interested in the package 2. I am interested in debian, the scripts and the QA rules 3. It's fun to contact upstream, pointing out a bug, hunting the sources for bugs, ... 4. Being appreciated for the job done 5. I am applying deb devel to meet new ppl, and get their expert advice on a number of things AND because I think that the software I am packaging is so good that other ppl may want to use it without bothering to package or destroying their software db. I think 5 is nice, but the ultimate reasons should be 1-3. I haven't read For the fun of it yet, but I certainly understand the title. I think filing bugs with good patches and get to know with the active package managers are good meeting place for NM applicant. Waiting is very ineffective. Participating is the way to go. :) For me, one of the DD told me to join before applying to NM because he got sick receiving patch :) Just kidding. Osamu -- +++ + Osamu Aoki [EMAIL PROTECTED] @ Cupertino, CA USA + -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: how long does it take to find an AM
On Tue, Jun 25, 2002 at 11:01:21AM +0200, Jonas Meurer wrote: Hello, I started my NM-process at the 5. July 2002, and it was checked by my advocate at the 10. July 2002. Now 25 days (more than 3 weeks) passed, and still no AM contacted me. I know that the NM-team has a hard job, but I just want to ask how long you have to wait normally at the moment. My advocate had to wait about 1 week, but this is a few years ago, I think. What about idle-time now? The NM process is full of waiting. Consider it more of a test of devotion rather than a nuisance. It'll happen eventually, I believe most of this stuff has to be done manually, and usually by some of the busiest people Debian has. -- Duncan Findlay, who had to wait 7 months, 5 days for a phone call from the DAM, and DAM approval. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: how long does it take to find an AM
On Tue, 25 Jun 2002, Osamu Aoki wrote: On Tue, Jun 25, 2002 at 04:35:39PM +0200, Marc Leeman wrote: I waited 6 weeks before AM assigned. (I had advocate when applied.) My AM does not yet contact me few days while I see his posting on ML. I am trying to get a time window to process all my NMs in a batch. FWIW, I am the only AM that accepted the challenge of creating the TS tests for documentation developers, so please bear with my slowness. You guys assigned to me are being guinea pigs that will crash-test TS for documentation developers, and this has to be done right if I don't want you four to be held forever at DAM stage. I cannot process NM during work time, but I *can* read the lists and work in the Cyrus packages because it is directly related to my work. That's why I have time for some stuff like cyrus, and little time for fcron, fetchmail, or NM until after debconf. -- One disk to rule them all, One disk to find them. One disk to bring them all and in the darkness grind them. In the Land of Redmond where the shadows lie. -- The Silicon Valley Tarot Henrique Holschuh -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
