package with more than one license: logwatch

2004-07-27 Thread Willi Mann

Hi!

I'm facing a small problem with my package logwatch[0]. Logwatch's licensing 
file (License) [1] doesn't match the reality in two ways:


1) Logwatch consists of many perl scripts, many of them not written by the 
maintainer of logwatch (Kirk Bauer), but by various contributors (including 
me). There's no indication anyone transferred the copyright to Kirk, but the 
licensing file only says (c) Kirk Bauer.


2) Logwatch is distributed under the X11 License. Some scripts are 
distributed under two different licenses: One is Public Domain which is of 
course compatible to X11, and one is the GPL which is not X11 compatible (of 
course the other direction is compatible).



I think for 1) it should be enough to say
(c) Kirk Bauer and (others|contributors).
?


I can think of these solutions for 2:

- Distribute the debianized version under GPL.
- Change the copyright file to say that most of logwatch is distributed 
under X11, but some parts are GPL.


Can anyone tell me, what's the best way to handle this situation?

Willi



[0] http://packages.qa.debian.org/l/logwatch.html
[1] debian/copyright with the License file: 
http://packages.debian.org/changelogs/pool/main/l/logwatch/logwatch_5.1-5/copyright




package with more than one license: logwatch

2004-07-27 Thread Willi Mann
Hi!
I'm facing a small problem with my package logwatch[0]. Logwatch's licensing 
file (License) [1] doesn't match the reality in two ways:

1) Logwatch consists of many perl scripts, many of them not written by the 
maintainer of logwatch (Kirk Bauer), but by various contributors (including 
me). There's no indication anyone transferred the copyright to Kirk, but the 
licensing file only says (c) Kirk Bauer.

2) Logwatch is distributed under the X11 License. Some scripts are 
distributed under two different licenses: One is Public Domain which is of 
course compatible to X11, and one is the GPL which is not X11 compatible (of 
course the other direction is compatible).

I think for 1) it should be enough to say
(c) Kirk Bauer and (others|contributors).
?
I can think of these solutions for 2:
- Distribute the debianized version under GPL.
- Change the copyright file to say that most of logwatch is distributed 
under X11, but some parts are GPL.

Can anyone tell me, what's the best way to handle this situation?
Willi

[0] http://packages.qa.debian.org/l/logwatch.html
[1] debian/copyright with the License file: 
http://packages.debian.org/changelogs/pool/main/l/logwatch/logwatch_5.1-5/copyright

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Re: package with more than one license: logwatch

2004-07-27 Thread Justin Pryzby
Check out netpbm for a package with many, many licenses.  I don't think
your case can possibly be worse than that.  Anyways, the license file is
done in a very systematic way.

On Tue, Jul 27, 2004 at 03:16:53PM +0200, Willi Mann wrote:
> Hi!
> 
> I'm facing a small problem with my package logwatch[0]. Logwatch's 
> licensing file (License) [1] doesn't match the reality in two ways:

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Re: package with more than one license: logwatch

2004-07-27 Thread Frank Küster
Willi Mann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

For the general problems associated with different licenses in one
package, you might find a look at http://bugs.debian.org/218105
informative. (Although I hope that your package isn't as mixed as
ours). 

> I can think of these solutions for 2:
>
> - Distribute the debianized version under GPL.

I think you can't do that, if some parts are under X11 license.

> - Change the copyright file to say that most of logwatch is
> distributed under X11, but some parts are GPL.

That's the way to go. Of course you have to make sure that this is
legally possible at all (is any linking done?).

Regards, Frank
-- 
Frank Küster, Biozentrum der Univ. Basel
Abt. Biophysikalische Chemie



Re: package with more than one license: logwatch

2004-07-28 Thread Willi Mann

Frank Küster wrote:

Willi Mann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

For the general problems associated with different licenses in one
package, you might find a look at http://bugs.debian.org/218105
informative. (Although I hope that your package isn't as mixed as
ours). 



Thanks.

Can anyone tell me please if attached copyright file is OK? What I'm unsure 
about is if it's enough to list all the mentioned names in the package or do 
I have to do the painful act of working out who owns a copyright on which of 
 the many scripts?


> That's the way to go. Of course you have to make sure that this is
> legally possible at all (is any linking done?).

Logwatch's language is perl. It mostly does cat logfile | filter1 | filter2 
  | filter3 ... But why do you think, linking would be a problem? Public 
Domain and X11 are both GPL-compatible.


Willi
This package was debianized by Willi Mann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on
Wed, 12 Nov 2003 20:14:15 +0100.

It was downloaded from ftp://ftp.kaybee.org/pub/linux/logwatch-5.1.tar.gz

Logwatch consists of many individual scripts. Most of them were written by
Kirk Bauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, who is also the maintainer of logwatch.

Other authors and contributors:
---

Dariusz Nierada <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
David Golden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Eric Moret <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Fabrizio Zeno Cornelli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Gerald Teschl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
James Wysynski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Jim O'Halloran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Joe Digilio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Kenneth Porter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Lars Skjærlund <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Luuk de Boer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Luuk de Boer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Manuel Mitnyan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
M. B. Heath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Michael Romeo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Michael Stovenour <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Mike Tremaine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Osma Ahvenlampi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Pawe? Go?aszewski" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Pawel Jarosz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sean Boran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Simon Liddington <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Simon Liddington <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
S. Schimkat 
Sven Conrad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sven Conrad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Willi Mann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

(Note that this is a semi-autogenerated list. See README.Debian for more 
information.)

Licenses:
-

Except for a few scripts, logwatch is distributed under the permissive X11 
license.

The exceptions:

scripts/services/clamav-milter: GPL
scripts/services/rt314: Public Domain


Text of the licenses:
-

X11 license:

-BEGIN LICENSE --
Permission is hereby granted, free of charge, to any person obtaining a copy of
this software and associated documentation files (the "Software"), to deal in
the Software without restriction, including without limitation the rights to
use, copy, modify, merge, publish, distribute, sublicense, and/or sell copies
of the Software, and to permit persons to whom the Software is furnished to do
so, subject to the following conditions:

The above copyright notice and this permission notice shall be included in all
copies or substantial portions of the Software.

THE SOFTWARE IS PROVIDED "AS IS", WITHOUT WARRANTY OF ANY KIND, EXPRESS OR
IMPLIED, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO THE WARRANTIES OF MERCHANTABILITY,
FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE AND NONINFRINGEMENT. IN NO EVENT SHALL THE
AUTHORS OR COPYRIGHT HOLDERS BE LIABLE FOR ANY CLAIM, DAMAGES OR OTHER
LIABILITY, WHETHER IN AN ACTION OF CONTRACT, TORT OR OTHERWISE, ARISING FROM,
OUT OF OR IN CONNECTION WITH THE SOFTWARE OR THE USE OR OTHER DEALINGS IN THE
SOFTWARE.
--END LICENSE--

GPL:

-BEGIN LICENSE --
   This package is free software; you can redistribute it and/or modify
   it under the terms of the GNU General Public License as published by
   the Free Software Foundation; version 2 dated June, 1991.

   This package is distributed in the hope that it will be useful,
   but WITHOUT ANY WARRANTY; without even the implied warranty of
   MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE.  See the
   GNU General Public License for more details.

   You should have received a copy of the GNU General Public License
   along with this package; if not, write to the Free Software
   Foundation, Inc., 59 Temple Place - Suite 330, Boston, MA
   02111-1307, USA.

On Debian GNU/Linux systems, the complete text of the GNU General
Public License can be found in `/usr/share/common-licenses/GPL'.
--END LICENSE--




Re: package with more than one license: logwatch

2004-07-29 Thread Frank Küster
Willi Mann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Can anyone tell me please if attached copyright file is OK? What I'm
> unsure about is if it's enough to list all the mentioned names in the
> package or do I have to do the painful act of working out who owns a
> copyright on which of the many scripts?

According to the discussions I had with respect to teTeX's copyright
file(s), I think it's okay. Except perhaps that "Public Domain" is
probably defined nowhere and should be explained with the wording from
the respective script.

Regards, Frank
-- 
Frank Küster, Biozentrum der Univ. Basel
Abt. Biophysikalische Chemie



Re: package with more than one license: logwatch

2004-07-27 Thread Justin Pryzby
Check out netpbm for a package with many, many licenses.  I don't think
your case can possibly be worse than that.  Anyways, the license file is
done in a very systematic way.

On Tue, Jul 27, 2004 at 03:16:53PM +0200, Willi Mann wrote:
> Hi!
> 
> I'm facing a small problem with my package logwatch[0]. Logwatch's 
> licensing file (License) [1] doesn't match the reality in two ways:

-- 
Justin
apt-get install iraf saods9 eclipse xpa sextractor latex-astro wcstools pyraf
http://www.justinpryzby.com/debian/


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Re: package with more than one license: logwatch

2004-07-27 Thread Frank Küster
Willi Mann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

For the general problems associated with different licenses in one
package, you might find a look at http://bugs.debian.org/218105
informative. (Although I hope that your package isn't as mixed as
ours). 

> I can think of these solutions for 2:
>
> - Distribute the debianized version under GPL.

I think you can't do that, if some parts are under X11 license.

> - Change the copyright file to say that most of logwatch is
> distributed under X11, but some parts are GPL.

That's the way to go. Of course you have to make sure that this is
legally possible at all (is any linking done?).

Regards, Frank
-- 
Frank Küster, Biozentrum der Univ. Basel
Abt. Biophysikalische Chemie



Re: package with more than one license: logwatch

2004-07-28 Thread Willi Mann
Frank Küster wrote:
Willi Mann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
For the general problems associated with different licenses in one
package, you might find a look at http://bugs.debian.org/218105
informative. (Although I hope that your package isn't as mixed as
ours). 

Thanks.
Can anyone tell me please if attached copyright file is OK? What I'm unsure 
about is if it's enough to list all the mentioned names in the package or do 
I have to do the painful act of working out who owns a copyright on which of 
 the many scripts?

> That's the way to go. Of course you have to make sure that this is
> legally possible at all (is any linking done?).
Logwatch's language is perl. It mostly does cat logfile | filter1 | filter2 
  | filter3 ... But why do you think, linking would be a problem? Public 
Domain and X11 are both GPL-compatible.

Willi
This package was debianized by Willi Mann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on
Wed, 12 Nov 2003 20:14:15 +0100.

It was downloaded from ftp://ftp.kaybee.org/pub/linux/logwatch-5.1.tar.gz

Logwatch consists of many individual scripts. Most of them were written by
Kirk Bauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, who is also the maintainer of logwatch.

Other authors and contributors:
---

Dariusz Nierada <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
David Golden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Eric Moret <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Fabrizio Zeno Cornelli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Gerald Teschl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
James Wysynski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Jim O'Halloran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Joe Digilio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Kenneth Porter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Lars Skjærlund <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Luuk de Boer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Luuk de Boer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Manuel Mitnyan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
M. B. Heath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Michael Romeo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Michael Stovenour <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Mike Tremaine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Osma Ahvenlampi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Pawe? Go?aszewski" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Pawel Jarosz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sean Boran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Simon Liddington <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Simon Liddington <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
S. Schimkat 
Sven Conrad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sven Conrad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Willi Mann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

(Note that this is a semi-autogenerated list. See README.Debian for more information.)

Licenses:
-

Except for a few scripts, logwatch is distributed under the permissive X11 license.

The exceptions:

scripts/services/clamav-milter: GPL
scripts/services/rt314: Public Domain


Text of the licenses:
-

X11 license:

-BEGIN LICENSE --
Permission is hereby granted, free of charge, to any person obtaining a copy of
this software and associated documentation files (the "Software"), to deal in
the Software without restriction, including without limitation the rights to
use, copy, modify, merge, publish, distribute, sublicense, and/or sell copies
of the Software, and to permit persons to whom the Software is furnished to do
so, subject to the following conditions:

The above copyright notice and this permission notice shall be included in all
copies or substantial portions of the Software.

THE SOFTWARE IS PROVIDED "AS IS", WITHOUT WARRANTY OF ANY KIND, EXPRESS OR
IMPLIED, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO THE WARRANTIES OF MERCHANTABILITY,
FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE AND NONINFRINGEMENT. IN NO EVENT SHALL THE
AUTHORS OR COPYRIGHT HOLDERS BE LIABLE FOR ANY CLAIM, DAMAGES OR OTHER
LIABILITY, WHETHER IN AN ACTION OF CONTRACT, TORT OR OTHERWISE, ARISING FROM,
OUT OF OR IN CONNECTION WITH THE SOFTWARE OR THE USE OR OTHER DEALINGS IN THE
SOFTWARE.
--END LICENSE--

GPL:

-BEGIN LICENSE --
   This package is free software; you can redistribute it and/or modify
   it under the terms of the GNU General Public License as published by
   the Free Software Foundation; version 2 dated June, 1991.

   This package is distributed in the hope that it will be useful,
   but WITHOUT ANY WARRANTY; without even the implied warranty of
   MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE.  See the
   GNU General Public License for more details.

   You should have received a copy of the GNU General Public License
   along with this package; if not, write to the Free Software
   Foundation, Inc., 59 Temple Place - Suite 330, Boston, MA
   02111-1307, USA.

On Debian GNU/Linux systems, the complete text of the GNU General
Public License can be found in `/usr/share/common-licenses/GPL'.
--END LICENSE--




Re: package with more than one license: logwatch

2004-07-29 Thread Frank Küster
Willi Mann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Can anyone tell me please if attached copyright file is OK? What I'm
> unsure about is if it's enough to list all the mentioned names in the
> package or do I have to do the painful act of working out who owns a
> copyright on which of the many scripts?

According to the discussions I had with respect to teTeX's copyright
file(s), I think it's okay. Except perhaps that "Public Domain" is
probably defined nowhere and should be explained with the wording from
the respective script.

Regards, Frank
-- 
Frank Küster, Biozentrum der Univ. Basel
Abt. Biophysikalische Chemie