RE: question about the packaging helpers

2014-01-30 Thread Roelof Wobben


> Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2014 17:33:18 +0100
> Subject: Re: question about the packaging helpers
> From: matth...@tenstral.net
> To: andr...@an3as.eu
> CC: debian-mentors@lists.debian.org
> 
> 2014-01-30 Andreas Tille :
> > Hi,
> >
> > On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 08:35:09AM +, Roelof Wobben wrote:
> >>
> >> > Why not join the Debian GNOME team?
> >> >
> >> > https://wiki.debian.org/Teams/DebianGnome
> >> >
> >> Can I also learn there to package and get a sort of mentor who can learn 
> >> me the right way ? Roelof
> >
> > Why not asking on the team mailing list?  All teams *I* know (gnome
> > packaging does not belong to the lists I'm reading) are happy if
> > there are newcomers sending an introduction and asking for help.
> With my Tanglu hat on: Joining the GNOME team is one of the best
> things you can do to help! This will benefit Debian (and indirectly
> Tanglu), help you in learning the practices of the Debian-GNOME team
> and create better packages, and it will help Tanglu because you can
> provide new packages earlier to Tanglu, and the GNOME-Team because
> they can see how something performs on Tanglu (and get some more
> testing before a new Debian release).
> Simple win-win-win ;-)
> Cheers,
> Matthias
> 
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Thanks, 
Then I have to find out how I can join the team as a apprentice as it called in 
Englisch I think.

Roelof

  

RE: question about the packaging helpers

2014-01-30 Thread Roelof Wobben


> Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2014 17:33:18 +0100
> Subject: Re: question about the packaging helpers
> From: matth...@tenstral.net
> To: andr...@an3as.eu
> CC: debian-mentors@lists.debian.org
> 
> 2014-01-30 Andreas Tille :
> > Hi,
> >
> > On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 08:35:09AM +, Roelof Wobben wrote:
> >>
> >> > Why not join the Debian GNOME team?
> >> >
> >> > https://wiki.debian.org/Teams/DebianGnome
> >> >
> >> Can I also learn there to package and get a sort of mentor who can learn 
> >> me the right way ? Roelof
> >
> > Why not asking on the team mailing list?  All teams *I* know (gnome
> > packaging does not belong to the lists I'm reading) are happy if
> > there are newcomers sending an introduction and asking for help.
> With my Tanglu hat on: Joining the GNOME team is one of the best
> things you can do to help! This will benefit Debian (and indirectly
> Tanglu), help you in learning the practices of the Debian-GNOME team
> and create better packages, and it will help Tanglu because you can
> provide new packages earlier to Tanglu, and the GNOME-Team because
> they can see how something performs on Tanglu (and get some more
> testing before a new Debian release).
> Simple win-win-win ;-)
> Cheers,
> Matthias
> 
> -- 
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> I welcome VSRE emails. See http://vsre.info/
> 
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Re: question about the packaging helpers

2014-01-30 Thread Matthias Klumpp
2014-01-30 Andreas Tille :
> Hi,
>
> On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 08:35:09AM +, Roelof Wobben wrote:
>>
>> > Why not join the Debian GNOME team?
>> >
>> > https://wiki.debian.org/Teams/DebianGnome
>> >
>> Can I also learn there to package and get a sort of mentor who can learn me 
>> the right way ? Roelof
>
> Why not asking on the team mailing list?  All teams *I* know (gnome
> packaging does not belong to the lists I'm reading) are happy if
> there are newcomers sending an introduction and asking for help.
With my Tanglu hat on: Joining the GNOME team is one of the best
things you can do to help! This will benefit Debian (and indirectly
Tanglu), help you in learning the practices of the Debian-GNOME team
and create better packages, and it will help Tanglu because you can
provide new packages earlier to Tanglu, and the GNOME-Team because
they can see how something performs on Tanglu (and get some more
testing before a new Debian release).
Simple win-win-win ;-)
Cheers,
Matthias

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Re: question about the packaging helpers

2014-01-30 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi,

On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 08:35:09AM +, Roelof Wobben wrote:
> 
> > Why not join the Debian GNOME team?
> > 
> > https://wiki.debian.org/Teams/DebianGnome
> > 
> Can I also learn there to package and get a sort of mentor who can learn me 
> the right way ? Roelof  

Why not asking on the team mailing list?  All teams *I* know (gnome
packaging does not belong to the lists I'm reading) are happy if
there are newcomers sending an introduction and asking for help.

Kind regards

Andreas.

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RE: question about the packaging helpers

2014-01-30 Thread Roelof Wobben

 
> Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2014 14:16:34 +0800
> Subject: Re: question about the packaging helpers
> From: p...@debian.org
> To: debian-mentors@lists.debian.org
> 
> On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 2:48 AM, Roelof Wobben wrote:
> 
> > My ultimate goal is to become the gnome maintainer of Tanglu.
> 
> Why not join the Debian GNOME team?
> 
> https://wiki.debian.org/Teams/DebianGnome
> 
Can I also learn there to package and get a sort of mentor who can learn me the 
right way ? Roelof

Re: question about the packaging helpers

2014-01-29 Thread Paul Wise
On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 2:48 AM, Roelof Wobben wrote:

> My ultimate goal is to become the gnome maintainer of Tanglu.

Why not join the Debian GNOME team?

https://wiki.debian.org/Teams/DebianGnome

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RE: question about the packaging helpers

2014-01-29 Thread Roelof Wobben

 
> Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2014 13:36:29 -0600
> Subject: Re: question about the packaging helpers
> From: mzagr...@d.umn.edu
> To: rwob...@hotmail.com
> CC: debian-mentors@lists.debian.org
> 
> Hi Roelof,
> 
> On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 12:48 PM, Roelof Wobben  wrote:
> 
> > Now I wonder where detailed information can be found about the packaging
> > helpers
> > dh and dh7  ?
> 
> http://joeyh.name/blog/entry/cdbs_killer___40__design_phase__41__/
> 
> http://joeyh.name/talks/debhelper/debhelper-slides.pdf
> 
> and some interesting graphs:
> 
> http://www.lucas-nussbaum.net/blog/?p=751
> 
> HTH,
> 
> -mz Thanks, I will study both links well.  Roelof
  

Re: question about the packaging helpers

2014-01-29 Thread Matt Zagrabelny
Hi Roelof,

On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 12:48 PM, Roelof Wobben  wrote:

> Now I wonder where detailed information can be found about the packaging
> helpers
> dh and dh7  ?

http://joeyh.name/blog/entry/cdbs_killer___40__design_phase__41__/

http://joeyh.name/talks/debhelper/debhelper-slides.pdf

and some interesting graphs:

http://www.lucas-nussbaum.net/blog/?p=751

HTH,

-mz


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Re: question about the packaging helpers

2014-01-29 Thread Daniel Lintott
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Hi Roelof,

On 29/01/14 18:48, Roelof Wobben wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> Im trying to learn myself the debian way of packaging. My ultimate
> goal is to become the gnome maintainer of Tanglu.
> 
> Now I wonder where detailed information can be found about the
> packaging helpers dh and dh7  ?
> 
> Roelof
> 

As someone who had recently learnt packaging myself, it would be well
worth you taking a look at the following page [1].

In particular the New Maintainers Guide is very useful, as is Lucas'
Packaging Tutorial.

Moving on from them you'll want to get a basic understanding of the
Debian Policy [2].

Also if you want information on what the particular Debhelper commands
do... Best bet is to look at there repsective manpages.

Hope that is of some help to you.

Regards

Daniel


[1] https://mentors.debian.net/intro-maintainers
[2] http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/
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question about the packaging helpers

2014-01-29 Thread Roelof Wobben
Hello, 

Im trying to learn myself the debian way of packaging.
My ultimate goal is to become the gnome maintainer of Tanglu.
 
Now I wonder where detailed information can be found about the packaging 
helpers 
dh and dh7  ?
 
Roelof