Re: Debian multimedia blend

2013-05-22 Thread rosea.grammostola

On 05/22/2013 05:22 PM, Felipe Sateler wrote:

On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 5:17 PM, Andreas Tille  wrote:

On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 11:12:20PM +0200, Holger Levsen wrote:

Hi Felipe (and others, I guess),

On Montag, 20. Mai 2013, Felipe Sateler wrote:

They are currently in the NEW queue, should reach unstable soon.
The metapackage names are:

[sniped]

cool! I'm too curious how this will turn out! But a new Debian multimedia
blends seems like a great idea! Thanks for your work on this!


+1


Well, lets see how this evolve. Hopefully users will give us enough
feedback to make them really useful.


These packages and subdirs are a good starting point. Linuxaudio is 
transforming every day, so I think a lot has to change in the different 
meta-packages.


The biggest recent changes imo in linuxaudio is

a) release of Ardour3 (with midi support)
b) release of Non-Session-Manager (NSM)


Point a means that LV2 plugins are more and more important for mixing 
and using virtual softsynths/instruments.


Point b gives revival to the 'one-task-one-tool-approach' in the audio 
area. It should be in Debian as soon as possible (new release is coming 
within a few weeks)

http://non.tuxfamily.org/

It might be good to have a 'NON' metapackage with Non-Timeline, 
Non-Mixer, Non-Sequencer and Non-session-manager.


You want the NSM supported apps in Debian and likely in the 
metapackages. An NSM metapackage like you've for ladi, might be good 
too: http://non.tuxfamily.org/wiki/ApplicationsSupportingNsm


I think 'audio-plugins' should be 'softsynths or virtual instruments'.

Then you've to think about where to put the LV2 and DSSI plugins. 
Special metapackage or in one of the existing ones (mixing/softsynths) 
You've LV2 plugins for mixing and LV2 plugins as softsynths/virtual 
instruments.


I think I would remove the timestretching package, you'll find it in 
your DAW normally (Ardour/Qtractor).


Regards,
\r


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Re: Debian multimedia blend

2013-05-22 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi Felipe,

On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 11:22:48AM -0400, Felipe Sateler wrote:
> >> cool! I'm too curious how this will turn out! But a new Debian multimedia
> >> blends seems like a great idea! Thanks for your work on this!
> >
> > +1
> 
> Well, lets see how this evolve. Hopefully users will give us enough
> feedback to make them really useful.

I hope that the web sentinel pages which are actually intended to enable
easy user feedback will help here.

> > As promised I will care for the web sentinel featuring these tasks as
> > soon as possible (<= 48h).
> 
> Great!

I was actually seeking for the problem right after you created the
repository but totally failed to find this one line patch (see other
mail).  Seems the time was not ripe at this time...

> > BTW, any DD has commit permissions to Blends VCS so you can even commit
> > your patches directly.
> 
> OK, but my perl fu is rather disappointing, so I'd rather pass patches
> through review ;)

So you want me as a similarly disappointing Perl programmer to review
your patches?  I'm actually really hoping for the GSoC project which
will rewrite the Blends metapackage creation mechanism in Python (not
only because of the new language for sure).

Kind regards

   Andreas.

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Re: Debian multimedia blend

2013-05-22 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi,

On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 11:17:55PM +0200, Andreas Tille wrote:
> On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 11:12:20PM +0200, Holger Levsen wrote:
> > Hi Felipe (and others, I guess),
> > 
> > On Montag, 20. Mai 2013, Felipe Sateler wrote:
> > > They are currently in the NEW queue, should reach unstable soon.
> > > The metapackage names are:
> > [sniped]
> > 
> > cool! I'm too curious how this will turn out! But a new Debian multimedia 
> > blends seems like a great idea! Thanks for your work on this!
> 
> +1
> 
> As promised I will care for the web sentinel featuring these tasks as
> soon as possible (<= 48h).

I guess this was perfect timing:

diff --git a/webtools/webconf/debian-multimedia.conf 
b/webtools/webconf/debian-multimedia.co
index ee3ffb4..3a1650f 100644
--- a/webtools/webconf/debian-multimedia.conf
+++ b/webtools/webconf/debian-multimedia.conf
@@ -5,7 +5,7 @@ Homepage:http://blends.alioth.debian.org/multimedia
 AliothUrl:   http://blends.alioth.debian.org/multimedia
 ProjectList: pkg-multimedia-maintain...@lists.alioth.debian.org
 OutputDir:   /var/lib/gforge/chroot/home/groups/blends/htdocs/multimedia
-DataDir: /var/lib/gforge/chroot/home/groups/blends/data/debian-multimedia
+DataDir: /var/lib/gforge/chroot/home/groups/blends/data/multimedia-blends
 VcsDir:  git://git.debian.org/pkg-multimedia/multimedia-blends.git
 CSS: ../inc/style.css
 PkgList: pkg-multimedia-maintain...@lists.alioth.debian.org


I have tested this on the testing host for any Blends stuff[1] as well
as on alioth which should be regarded as official site[2].

Any remarks and further enhancements are perfectly welcome.

Kind regards

Andreas.

[1] http://blends.debian.net/multimedia/tasks/
[2] http://blends.alioth.debian.org/multimedia/tasks/

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Re: Debian multimedia blend

2013-05-22 Thread Felipe Sateler
On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 5:17 PM, Andreas Tille  wrote:
> On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 11:12:20PM +0200, Holger Levsen wrote:
>> Hi Felipe (and others, I guess),
>>
>> On Montag, 20. Mai 2013, Felipe Sateler wrote:
>> > They are currently in the NEW queue, should reach unstable soon.
>> > The metapackage names are:
>> [sniped]
>>
>> cool! I'm too curious how this will turn out! But a new Debian multimedia
>> blends seems like a great idea! Thanks for your work on this!
>
> +1

Well, lets see how this evolve. Hopefully users will give us enough
feedback to make them really useful.

> As promised I will care for the web sentinel featuring these tasks as
> soon as possible (<= 48h).

Great!

>
> Many thanks for working on this and your nice enhancements (bug reports)
> to blends-dev.
>
> BTW, any DD has commit permissions to Blends VCS so you can even commit
> your patches directly.

OK, but my perl fu is rather disappointing, so I'd rather pass patches
through review ;)

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