Re: [Fwd: RFC/RFS: rosegarden4: music editor and MIDI/audio sequencer]
Hi,
> > You're added, could you do svn-inject ?
>
> OK, I ran svn-inject. its in:
>
> svn://svn.debian.org/svn/demudi/rosegarden
Okay, checked out.
> Here are the things people should be aware of:
>
> The previous build of rosegarden4 build-deps on gcc3.4 for 3 arches that
> were previously getting ICE with gcc4. I changed that back hoping that
> whatever was causing the ICE has since been fixed. (the arches in
> question are {arm, hppa, m68k}.
I'd probably ignore them for now; not quite sure if they're really
better off working around compiler bugs this way.
> The manpage in the package is docbook2man generated and authored by the
> previous maintainer, but I haven't been able to locate the source, or
> the previous maintainer. The manpages are licensed GFDL with no
> invariant sections no front or back cover texts. So the license is free
> according to GR 2006-01, but the missing manpage source is troublesome.
Argh. Removing the auto-generated parts, it looks like sane nroff
stuff, not too hard to edit.
> There are two new binaries that as of right now don't have manpages:
> rosegarden-lilypondview, rosegarden-project-package.
Can you craft nroff pages?
> I moved the meat of the package from rosegarden4 to rosegarden and made
> rosegarden4 a dummy package. Please double check that I have correctly
> setup the inter-package dependencies correctly.
debian/README will need updates.
I'm not sure Conflicting against 'rosegarden2' only is enough. Have
you tested upgrades in the case of 'sarge has rosegarden[2] installed
and user upgrades'?
> Thats all I can think of for now. Let me know how it looks.
I'll need to allocate some time to get this working.
regards,
junichi
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Re: [Fwd: RFC/RFS: rosegarden4: music editor and MIDI/audio sequencer]
On Fri, 2006-03-24 at 08:17 +0900, Junichi Uekawa wrote:
> Hi,
>
> > > Free, are you fine with the idea of using
> > > http://svn.debian.org/wsvn/demudi for rosegarden as well?
> > >
> >
> > My account on alioth is stew-guest. I'd need to be put into the demudi
> > group.
>
> You're added, could you do svn-inject ?
OK, I ran svn-inject. its in:
svn://svn.debian.org/svn/demudi/rosegarden
Here are the things people should be aware of:
The previous build of rosegarden4 build-deps on gcc3.4 for 3 arches that
were previously getting ICE with gcc4. I changed that back hoping that
whatever was causing the ICE has since been fixed. (the arches in
question are {arm, hppa, m68k}.
The manpage in the package is docbook2man generated and authored by the
previous maintainer, but I haven't been able to locate the source, or
the previous maintainer. The manpages are licensed GFDL with no
invariant sections no front or back cover texts. So the license is free
according to GR 2006-01, but the missing manpage source is troublesome.
There are two new binaries that as of right now don't have manpages:
rosegarden-lilypondview, rosegarden-project-package.
I get these linda warnings:
W: rosegarden; Shared object /usr/bin/rosegarden is linked with version 0.9.7
and 0.9.8 of libssl.
This is becuase liblrdf0 is old and needs to be rebuilt. I filed a bug
to request it to be rebuilt:
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=353361
Its aparantly waiting on some other package. I have talked on irc with
both the maintainer and with vorlon about it.
I moved the meat of the package from rosegarden4 to rosegarden and made
rosegarden4 a dummy package. Please double check that I have correctly
setup the inter-package dependencies correctly.
Thats all I can think of for now. Let me know how it looks.
thanks,
stew
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Re: [Fwd: RFC/RFS: rosegarden4: music editor and MIDI/audio sequencer]
Hi, > > > > Cool. I didn't realize that rosegarden4 was orphaned at all. > > > > I am interested in getting this thing updated in Debian. > > > > > > > > I prefer working out of a svn/cvs repos rather than shifting around > > > > whole packages. > > > > > > I ran svn-inject, and my package is here: > > > > > > svn://svn.vireo.org/rosegarden/rosegarden4 > > > > Humph, I was hoping that you'd inject it to somewhere like the demudi > > repos so that I can have read/write access. > > > > Free, are you fine with the idea of using > > http://svn.debian.org/wsvn/demudi for rosegarden as well? > > > > My account on alioth is stew-guest. I'd need to be put into the demudi > group. You're added, could you do svn-inject ? regards, junichi -- [EMAIL PROTECTED],netfort.gr.jp} Debian Project -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Fwd: RFC/RFS: rosegarden4: music editor and MIDI/audio sequencer]
|--==> Junichi Uekawa writes: JU> Anyway, there's going to be a 'rosegarden' and probably a JU> compatibility 'rosegarden4' symlink. JU> We can make rosegarden4 or rosegarden a dummy package, and JU> use either one. JU> rosegarden2 can be removed. It is a very different beast, and there JU> might be users, but really, I don't think it's too good an idea to JU> keep something that is only of an archaeological interest. Yes, I agree. A the upstream source name is "rosegarden", for sake of semplicity I'd set "rosegarden" as the new package name for the bleeding-edge upstream, and turn "rosegarden4" into a pointer to "rosegarden". Free -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Fwd: RFC/RFS: rosegarden4: music editor and MIDI/audio sequencer]
|--==> Mike O'Connor writes: >> >>Free, are you fine with the idea of using >>http://svn.debian.org/wsvn/demudi for rosegarden as well? >> MO> My account on alioth is stew-guest. I'd need to be put into the demudi MO> group. Good! Welcome in the group :) BTW that's the idea of the demudi alioth group, to host packaging of audio and multimedia applications, where needed. Currently I'm the only project admin, but if some of you wants to step me, I think it's good to have a least two. Cheers, Free -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Fwd: RFC/RFS: rosegarden4: music editor and MIDI/audio sequencer]
On Mon, 2006-03-20 at 09:10 +0900, Junichi Uekawa wrote: > Hi, > > > > Cool. I didn't realize that rosegarden4 was orphaned at all. > > > I am interested in getting this thing updated in Debian. > > > > > > I prefer working out of a svn/cvs repos rather than shifting around > > > whole packages. > > > > I ran svn-inject, and my package is here: > > > > svn://svn.vireo.org/rosegarden/rosegarden4 > > Humph, I was hoping that you'd inject it to somewhere like the demudi > repos so that I can have read/write access. > > Free, are you fine with the idea of using > http://svn.debian.org/wsvn/demudi for rosegarden as well? > My account on alioth is stew-guest. I'd need to be put into the demudi group. stew -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Fwd: RFC/RFS: rosegarden4: music editor and MIDI/audio sequencer]
Hi, > > Cool. I didn't realize that rosegarden4 was orphaned at all. > > I am interested in getting this thing updated in Debian. > > > > I prefer working out of a svn/cvs repos rather than shifting around > > whole packages. > > I ran svn-inject, and my package is here: > > svn://svn.vireo.org/rosegarden/rosegarden4 Humph, I was hoping that you'd inject it to somewhere like the demudi repos so that I can have read/write access. Free, are you fine with the idea of using http://svn.debian.org/wsvn/demudi for rosegarden as well? > > I've looked at rosegarden4 sources and it blew my mind away; it's > > using 'scons' for building, and decided to throw away > > autoconf/automake/Makefile set up ? > > yeah. Don't konw what the motivation was there. The rosegarden-devel > list is already talking about possibly moving from scons to something > else: > > http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?thread_id=9886891&forum_id=271 Yikes. > > How did you handle the 'rosegarden' -> 'rosegarden4' rename that was > > probably Debian-local, did you just throw it away? > > > > In my current packaging I have kept the debian specific renaming from > rosegarden -> rosegarden4, however I'm hoping this won Hmm... ? Anyway, there's going to be a 'rosegarden' and probably a compatibility 'rosegarden4' symlink. We can make rosegarden4 or rosegarden a dummy package, and use either one. rosegarden2 can be removed. It is a very different beast, and there might be users, but really, I don't think it's too good an idea to keep something that is only of an archaeological interest. I'm cc'ing the respective bugreports as a final call that rosegarden/rosegarden2 are going to be removed in favor of rosegarden4, and that 'rosegarden' will be a dummy pointing to rosegarden4. regards, junichi -- [EMAIL PROTECTED],netfort.gr.jp} Debian Project -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Fwd: RFC/RFS: rosegarden4: music editor and MIDI/audio sequencer]
Please see these wnpp-entries: O: rosegarden2 -- An integrated MIDI sequencer and musical notation editor http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=352537 O: rosegarden -- An integrated MIDI sequencer and musical notation editor http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=352543 ITA: rosegarden4 -- music editor and MIDI/audio sequencer http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=352541 Cheers, Andreas --- Mike O'Connor wrote: Cool. I didn't realize that rosegarden4 was orphaned at all. I am interested in getting this thing updated in Debian. I prefer working out of a svn/cvs repos rather than shifting around whole packages. I ran svn-inject, and my package is here: svn://svn.vireo.org/rosegarden/rosegarden4 I've looked at rosegarden4 sources and it blew my mind away; it's using 'scons' for building, and decided to throw away autoconf/automake/Makefile set up ? yeah. Don't konw what the motivation was there. The rosegarden-devel list is already talking about possibly moving from scons to something else: http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?thread_id=9886891&forum_id=271 How did you handle the 'rosegarden' -> 'rosegarden4' rename that was probably Debian-local, did you just throw it away? In my current packaging I have kept the debian specific renaming from rosegarden -> rosegarden4, however I'm hoping this won On Sun, 2006-03-19 at 12:52 +0100, Free Ekanayaka wrote: The rosegarden and rosegarden2 packages in Debian are both dummy ones: http://packages.debian.org/unstable/sound/rosegarden http://packages.debian.org/unstable/sound/rosegarden2 and very old: http://packages.debian.org/changelogs/pool/main/r/rosegarden/rosegarden_2.1pl4-2/changelog http://packages.debian.org/changelogs/pool/main/r/rosegarden2/rosegarden2_2.1pl4-2.1/changelog As we are at it, would it make sense to ask for their removal? The rosegarden package is a dummy package, but rosegarden2 is not. It is, however old and dead upstream. I hadn't requested removal yet, becuase at the time that the packages were all orphaned, someone expressed interest in rosegarden2 becuase of a strong dislike of kde. Doing some searching now, I can no longer find this reference, and since nobody has expressed any interest in the packages via the wnpp bugs, it probably would be apropriate to request the removal of rosegarden2. What's not clear to me is what to do with the orphaned rosegarden package. Should that now point to rosegarden4 or should it be removed? or should it become the real package and have rosegarden4 be a dummy package pointing to rosegarden. What do you guys think? Thanks, stew -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Fwd: RFC/RFS: rosegarden4: music editor and MIDI/audio sequencer]
> > Cool. I didn't realize that rosegarden4 was orphaned at all. > I am interested in getting this thing updated in Debian. > > I prefer working out of a svn/cvs repos rather than shifting around > whole packages. I ran svn-inject, and my package is here: svn://svn.vireo.org/rosegarden/rosegarden4 > > > I've looked at rosegarden4 sources and it blew my mind away; it's > using 'scons' for building, and decided to throw away > autoconf/automake/Makefile set up ? yeah. Don't konw what the motivation was there. The rosegarden-devel list is already talking about possibly moving from scons to something else: http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?thread_id=9886891&forum_id=271 > > How did you handle the 'rosegarden' -> 'rosegarden4' rename that was > probably Debian-local, did you just throw it away? > In my current packaging I have kept the debian specific renaming from rosegarden -> rosegarden4, however I'm hoping this won On Sun, 2006-03-19 at 12:52 +0100, Free Ekanayaka wrote: > The rosegarden and rosegarden2 packages in Debian are both dummy ones: > > http://packages.debian.org/unstable/sound/rosegarden > http://packages.debian.org/unstable/sound/rosegarden2 > > and very old: > > http://packages.debian.org/changelogs/pool/main/r/rosegarden/rosegarden_2.1pl4-2/changelog > http://packages.debian.org/changelogs/pool/main/r/rosegarden2/rosegarden2_2.1pl4-2.1/changelog > > As we are at it, would it make sense to ask for their removal? > The rosegarden package is a dummy package, but rosegarden2 is not. It is, however old and dead upstream. I hadn't requested removal yet, becuase at the time that the packages were all orphaned, someone expressed interest in rosegarden2 becuase of a strong dislike of kde. Doing some searching now, I can no longer find this reference, and since nobody has expressed any interest in the packages via the wnpp bugs, it probably would be apropriate to request the removal of rosegarden2. What's not clear to me is what to do with the orphaned rosegarden package. Should that now point to rosegarden4 or should it be removed? or should it become the real package and have rosegarden4 be a dummy package pointing to rosegarden. What do you guys think? Thanks, stew -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Fwd: RFC/RFS: rosegarden4: music editor and MIDI/audio sequencer]
|--==> Junichi Uekawa writes: JU> How did you handle the 'rosegarden' -> 'rosegarden4' rename that was JU> probably Debian-local, did you just throw it away? The rosegarden and rosegarden2 packages in Debian are both dummy ones: http://packages.debian.org/unstable/sound/rosegarden http://packages.debian.org/unstable/sound/rosegarden2 and very old: http://packages.debian.org/changelogs/pool/main/r/rosegarden/rosegarden_2.1pl4-2/changelog http://packages.debian.org/changelogs/pool/main/r/rosegarden2/rosegarden2_2.1pl4-2.1/changelog As we are at it, would it make sense to ask for their removal? Free -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Fwd: RFC/RFS: rosegarden4: music editor and MIDI/audio sequencer]
Hi, > > This package strikes me as an ideal candidate for Debian-multimedia to > > sponsor / co-maintain, this requires at least one DD on this list to be > > enthusiastic about the idea. Rosegarden4 is one of Linux Audio's > > flagship apps IMO and it has always looked bad that Debian constantly > > ships with the version before last. This wasn't necessarily Enrique's > > fault, although he could have made a formal RFH sooner. > > > > I hope you will be able to work with Willem van Engen > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> who intends to package the dssi stuff, I also > > think that this list will be the right place to co-ordinate efforts. I'm > > glad you found us. > > I agree that this package is a good one for co-maintainance or team > maiintainence. It is, as you say, a flagship product, and its features > are broad, and getting broader as it has a very active upstream. Cool. I didn't realize that rosegarden4 was orphaned at all. I am interested in getting this thing updated in Debian. I prefer working out of a svn/cvs repos rather than shifting around whole packages. I've looked at rosegarden4 sources and it blew my mind away; it's using 'scons' for building, and decided to throw away autoconf/automake/Makefile set up ? How did you handle the 'rosegarden' -> 'rosegarden4' rename that was probably Debian-local, did you just throw it away? regards, junichi -- [EMAIL PROTECTED],netfort.gr.jp} Debian Project -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Fwd: RFC/RFS: rosegarden4: music editor and MIDI/audio sequencer]
On Fri, 2006-03-17 at 15:20 +, tim hall wrote: > I hope you will be able to work with Willem van Engen > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> who intends to package the dssi stuff, I also > think that this list will be the right place to co-ordinate efforts. I'm > glad you found us. Isn't DSSI already in Debian? http://pdo.debian.net/testing/source/dssi http://pdo.debian.net/unstable/source/dssi Or do you mean something else? Dana signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [Fwd: RFC/RFS: rosegarden4: music editor and MIDI/audio sequencer]
On Fri, 2006-03-17 at 15:20 +, tim hall wrote: > I assume this is a glibc6 / gcc4 build, so I won't be testing this > immediately. My binary package is built in an up to date pbuilder, so it is the lastest libc6 and gcc packages in sid. I kept the debhelper compatibility at 4 so that the source could be easily backported however. > Do you mind if I announce these packages on > [EMAIL PROTECTED] so we can get some testing done? Not at all. I certainly want them tested. > > This package strikes me as an ideal candidate for Debian-multimedia to > sponsor / co-maintain, this requires at least one DD on this list to be > enthusiastic about the idea. Rosegarden4 is one of Linux Audio's > flagship apps IMO and it has always looked bad that Debian constantly > ships with the version before last. This wasn't necessarily Enrique's > fault, although he could have made a formal RFH sooner. > > I hope you will be able to work with Willem van Engen > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> who intends to package the dssi stuff, I also > think that this list will be the right place to co-ordinate efforts. I'm > glad you found us. I agree that this package is a good one for co-maintainance or team maiintainence. It is, as you say, a flagship product, and its features are broad, and getting broader as it has a very active upstream. stew -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Fwd: RFC/RFS: rosegarden4: music editor and MIDI/audio sequencer]
Mike O'Connor wrote: I've packaged a newer version of rosegarden4. I have been trying to normal means of finding a sponsor for this package (mailing [EMAIL PROTECTED], and asking a bunch of times on #debian-mentors), but I haven't yet been successful. I didn't know about this mailing list previously, so I thought I'd try here. Attached is my original RFC/RFS that I had sent to debian-mentors. Thanks, stew Subject: RFC/RFS: rosegarden4: music editor and MIDI/audio sequencer From: Mike O'Connor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2006 15:36:54 -0500 To: debian-mentors@lists.debian.org To: debian-mentors@lists.debian.org I intend to adopt rosegarden4. The ITA is here: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=352541 --- Description: music editor and MIDI/audio sequencer Rosegarden4 is a KDE application which provides a mixed Audio/MIDI sequencer (for playback and recording), a multi-track editor, music editing using both piano-roll and score notation, MIDI file IO, lilypond and Csound files export, etc. . Rosegarden4 is a complete rewrite of the old rosegarden application, available in the "rosegarden" debian package. I have prepared packages and they are available here: deb http://vireo.org/debian/rosegarden4/binary/ deb-src http://vireo.org/debian/rosegarden4/source/ Here is my changelist: Changes: rosegarden4 (1.2.3-1) unstable; urgency=low . * New Maintainer (Closes: #352541) * New upstream version * No longer building a verbose debug version (Closes: #311087) * Fixed typo in manpage (Closes: #341660) * Split arch-indep files into a rosegarden4-data pacakge (Closes: #233437) * The upstream menu icon is now included (Closes: #299390) * Moved jackd from Depends: to Recommends: (Closes: #219286) --- I would appreciate any comments anyone may have on my packaging. I assume this is a glibc6 / gcc4 build, so I won't be testing this immediately. Do you mind if I announce these packages on [EMAIL PROTECTED] so we can get some testing done? This package strikes me as an ideal candidate for Debian-multimedia to sponsor / co-maintain, this requires at least one DD on this list to be enthusiastic about the idea. Rosegarden4 is one of Linux Audio's flagship apps IMO and it has always looked bad that Debian constantly ships with the version before last. This wasn't necessarily Enrique's fault, although he could have made a formal RFH sooner. I hope you will be able to work with Willem van Engen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> who intends to package the dssi stuff, I also think that this list will be the right place to co-ordinate efforts. I'm glad you found us. Comments? cheers, tim hall -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I've packaged a newer version of rosegarden4. I have been trying to normal means of finding a sponsor for this package (mailing [EMAIL PROTECTED], and asking a bunch of times on #debian-mentors), but I haven't yet been successful. I didn't know about this mailing list previously, so I thought I'd try here. Attached is my original RFC/RFS that I had sent to debian-mentors. Thanks, stew --- Begin Message --- I intend to adopt rosegarden4. The ITA is here: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=352541 --- Description: music editor and MIDI/audio sequencer Rosegarden4 is a KDE application which provides a mixed Audio/MIDI sequencer (for playback and recording), a multi-track editor, music editing using both piano-roll and score notation, MIDI file IO, lilypond and Csound files export, etc. . Rosegarden4 is a complete rewrite of the old rosegarden application, available in the "rosegarden" debian package. I have prepared packages and they are available here: deb http://vireo.org/debian/rosegarden4/binary/ deb-src http://vireo.org/debian/rosegarden4/source/ Here is my changelist: Changes: rosegarden4 (1.2.3-1) unstable; urgency=low . * New Maintainer (Closes: #352541) * New upstream version * No longer building a verbose debug version (Closes: #311087) * Fixed typo in manpage (Closes: #341660) * Split arch-indep files into a rosegarden4-data pacakge (Closes: #233437) * The upstream menu icon is now included (Closes: #299390) * Moved jackd from Depends: to Recommends: (Closes: #219286) --- I would appreciate any comments anyone may have on my packaging. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- End Message ---
