Re: OOo 2.0 rc, and current status

2005-03-06 Thread Jérôme Warnier
Le samedi 05 mars 2005 à 11:50 -0500, David A. Cobb a écrit :
 Rene Engelhard wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 David A. Cobb wrote:
   
 
 I only discovered the page and the working group by way of the 
 back-door.  That is, through the OpenOffice.org page on Installing for 
 Linux.  As it is, I would not have read that except for the 2.0 _beta_ 
 announcement -- I already had both a 1.1.2, and a 1.9.79 installation 
 working. 
 
 
 
 Err? If you already have a Debian installation with the openoffice.org
 package you already *have* our packages.
   
 
 Well, the 1.9.79 was created by downloading the RPM's from OO.org and 
 pushing them through alien.
You'll find debian-ooo's work here
http://people.debian.org/~halls/openoffice/test/ooo1.9-java/
as a quick search on this ml's archives would have told you.

 Are we speaking of the Debian OOo page, here?  Or the OO.org Linux 
 page?  Either way, with a 'last updated' date prominently displayed, a 
 
 
 
 I'd guess both.
   
 
 I've already filed an issue with OO.org about the link.  I'll look into 
 doing a bit more there.
 
 . . .  once sarge is there. 
 
 I do NOT want to re-kindle /that/ discussion!
 
 Get the site from Debian CVS and send patches? :)
 
 cvs -d :pserver:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/cvs/debian-openoffice co
 openoffice.debian.net
   
 
 Thanks.  I'll look at it.
 
 Grüße/Regards,
 
 René
   
 
 m f G,



Re: OOo 2.0 rc, and current status

2005-03-05 Thread Rene Engelhard
Hi,

David A. Cobb wrote:
I guess I need to start with, Is anyone here awake?  I see that 

No, the question here is where you were the last months. If you would have
been here (or using Debian sarge/sid) you would have seen that there were
regular openoffice.org updates for sarge and sid and experimental.

 the openoffice.debian.net page is woefully out of date.  Altho' if it's 
 any consolation, openoffice.org has an address in Germany that doesn't 
 even respond: they were last updated December 2003.

Yes, we know. That site isn't our priority. You could send us patches if
you want FWIW. There AFAIK was one who volunteered to maintain that page
but he disappeared again...

And well, what exactly do you want updated? NEWS? Except the upload of
new versions theer is nothing important there (well, we could mention
1.1.x, but the 1.1.0-2 stuff has the most important NEWS in Debian
OpenOffice.org history), the patches? The links should be quite self
explaining how to change them to get a site with the newest ones. The
package overview? Is automatically updated (since it's just a link to
the official DDPO).

Anyway, I will look whether I can find some time at this weekend to
update the page...

The news of a 2.0 Release Candidate availability hit my mailbox 
 today.  I hope we are planning on packaging it!  I have downloaded the 

That's plain wrong. It's 2.0 *beta*. Release Candidate is still a few
months away. Beta doesn't mean RC, betais some time before you even can
think about calling stuff a RC. There is still so many stuff to do...

 OOo setup program.
I would like to help here.  If I can do anything to make the news 
 more current, or to speedup the packaging effort, please let me know.

There are still so many bugs in that. Is the non-Java build currently
working (see the other post why we can't yet build with gcj-4.0,
expecially since major fixed for that wsere introduced _after_ beta, m82
to be precise). I ddidn't folow that too closely since I have to do official
testbuilds for suns qa (see below) with Suns Java anyhow..? Does it build
fine using the system libs (I guess the answer to the last one is yes).

Anyway we both which are doing OOo packaging don't have that much time and
still have to do 1.1.x stuff (and I am trying to get upstreams buildsystem
- wrt configure, libs, etc - a bit more in shape for 2.0 final)

Grüße/Regards,

René
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Re: OOo 2.0 rc, and current status

2005-03-05 Thread David A. Cobb
Rene Engelhard wrote:
Hi,
David A. Cobb wrote:
 

  I guess I need to start with, Is anyone here awake?  I see that 
   

No, the question here is where you were the last months. 

OK.  Any of the months from June 2004 through February 2005, mostly 
trying to get a stable and working Debian installation in place of 
Windoze.  Problems have to do mostly with nVidia hardware, and getting 
used to the
way apt does things so I don't shoot my foot completely off.

I only discovered the page and the working group by way of the 
back-door.  That is, through the OpenOffice.org page on Installing for 
Linux.  As it is, I would not have read that except for the 2.0 _beta_ 
announcement -- I already had both a 1.1.2, and a 1.9.79 installation 
working. 

I mistook the out-of-datedness of the web-page to mean the working group 
wasn't very active.  Perhaps I should have lurked awhile; but it seemed 
interesting things were about to happen.

If you would have
been here (or using Debian sarge/sid) you would have seen that there were
regular openoffice.org updates for sarge and sid and experimental.
 

the openoffice.debian.net page is woefully out of date.  Altho' if it's 
any consolation, openoffice.org has an address in Germany that doesn't 
even respond: they were last updated December 2003.
   

Yes, we know. That site isn't our priority. You could send us patches if
you want FWIW. There AFAIK was one who volunteered to maintain that page
but he disappeared again...
 

Are we speaking of the Debian OOo page, here?  Or the OO.org Linux 
page?  Either way, with a 'last updated' date prominently displayed, a 
fairly-simple current status bullet could cure the impression of not 
being current. 

Perhaps you could point me toward some instruction in preparing proposed 
patches for the Debian page(s)?  I did some, over a year ago, for the 
OO.org; but found it hard to have a meeting of the minds with the 
CollabNet way of doing things.

And well, what exactly do you want updated? NEWS? Except the upload of
new versions theer is nothing important there (well, we could mention
1.1.x, but the 1.1.0-2 stuff has the most important NEWS in Debian
OpenOffice.org history), the patches? The links should be quite self
explaining how to change them to get a site with the newest ones. The
package overview? Is automatically updated (since it's just a link to
the official DDPO).
Anyway, I will look whether I can find some time at this weekend to
update the page...
 

  The news of a 2.0 Release Candidate availability hit my mailbox 
today.  I hope we are planning on packaging it!  I have downloaded the 
   

That's plain wrong. It's 2.0 *beta*. Release Candidate is still a few
months away. Beta doesn't mean RC, betais some time before you even can
think about calling stuff a RC. There is still so many stuff to do...
 

Ahh.  Pardon the hasty mis-understanding.  I didn't have the 
announcement right under my nose when I wrote that.

 

OOo setup program.
  I would like to help here.  If I can do anything to make the news 
more current, or to speedup the packaging effort, please let me know.
   

There are still so many bugs in that. Is the non-Java build currently
working (see the other post why we can't yet build with gcj-4.0,
expecially since major fixed for that wsere introduced _after_ beta, m82
to be precise). I ddidn't folow that too closely since I have to do official
testbuilds for suns qa (see below) with Suns Java anyhow..? Does it build
fine using the system libs (I guess the answer to the last one is yes).
Anyway we both which are doing OOo packaging don't have that much time and
still have to do 1.1.x stuff (and I am trying to get upstreams buildsystem
- wrt configure, libs, etc - a bit more in shape for 2.0 final)
Grüße/Regards,
René
 


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Re: OOo 2.0 rc, and current status

2005-03-05 Thread Rene Engelhard
Hi,

David A. Cobb wrote:
 I only discovered the page and the working group by way of the 
 back-door.  That is, through the OpenOffice.org page on Installing for 
 Linux.  As it is, I would not have read that except for the 2.0 _beta_ 
 announcement -- I already had both a 1.1.2, and a 1.9.79 installation 
 working. 

Err? If you already have a Debian installation with the openoffice.org
package you already *have* our packages.

 I mistook the out-of-datedness of the web-page to mean the working group 
 wasn't very active.  Perhaps I should have lurked awhile; but it seemed 
 interesting things were about to happen.

No. They already happened. The packages in Debian were regularily
updated.

 Are we speaking of the Debian OOo page, here?  Or the OO.org Linux 
 page?  Either way, with a 'last updated' date prominently displayed, a 

I'd guess both.

 fairly-simple current status bullet could cure the impression of not 
 being current. 

that would mean that it would need a update anyway :-)

Anyway, the site is now updated.

In my opinion, the site should vanish after sarge anyway, since the main
OOo development is done in ssarge/sid/experimental now and the mirrors
showed on that site are obsolte (except for the woody backport(s) which
must not be there anymore once sarge is there. Anyone wants to upgrade
anyhow from the old versions the backports have ;) )

 Perhaps you could point me toward some instruction in preparing proposed 
 patches for the Debian page(s)?  I did some, over a year ago, for the 

Get the site from Debian CVS and send patches? :)

cvs -d :pserver:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/cvs/debian-openoffice co
openoffice.debian.net

Grüße/Regards,

René
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Re: OOo 2.0 rc, and current status

2005-03-05 Thread David A. Cobb
Rene Engelhard wrote:
Hi,
David A. Cobb wrote:
 

I only discovered the page and the working group by way of the 
back-door.  That is, through the OpenOffice.org page on Installing for 
Linux.  As it is, I would not have read that except for the 2.0 _beta_ 
announcement -- I already had both a 1.1.2, and a 1.9.79 installation 
working. 
   

Err? If you already have a Debian installation with the openoffice.org
package you already *have* our packages.
 

Well, the 1.9.79 was created by downloading the RPM's from OO.org and 
pushing them through alien.

Are we speaking of the Debian OOo page, here?  Or the OO.org Linux 
page?  Either way, with a 'last updated' date prominently displayed, a 
   

I'd guess both.
 

I've already filed an issue with OO.org about the link.  I'll look into 
doing a bit more there.

. . .  once sarge is there. 

I do NOT want to re-kindle /that/ discussion!
Get the site from Debian CVS and send patches? :)
cvs -d :pserver:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/cvs/debian-openoffice co
openoffice.debian.net
 

Thanks.  I'll look at it.
Grüße/Regards,
René
 

m f G,
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Way of a Pilgrim: R.French, Tr.
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OOo 2.0 rc, and current status

2005-03-04 Thread David A. Cobb
Hi,
   I guess I need to start with, Is anyone here awake?  I see that 
the openoffice.debian.net page is woefully out of date.  Altho' if it's 
any consolation, openoffice.org has an address in Germany that doesn't 
even respond: they were last updated December 2003.
   The news of a 2.0 Release Candidate availability hit my mailbox 
today.  I hope we are planning on packaging it!  I have downloaded the 
OOo setup program.
   I would like to help here.  If I can do anything to make the news 
more current, or to speedup the packaging effort, please let me know.

--
David A. Cobb, Software Engineer, Public Access Advocate
By God's Grace, I am a Christian man; by my actions a great sinner. -- The 
Way of a Pilgrim: R.French, Tr.
Life is too short to tolerate crappy software!

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