Bug#950994: Discourage package in contrib to install the real program via another package manager

2020-04-09 Thread Bill Allombert
On Sun, Feb 09, 2020 at 11:47:18PM -0500, Olek Wojnar wrote:
> In summary, as snap/flatpak/etc increase in popularity I think it may be
> a good idea to have a formalized method for Debian package maintainers
> to designate authoritative equivalent sources for their packages, if
> they wish to do so.

The problem is that designating a source imply that Debian provide a
minimal set of garanties for the source.

- if the .deb includes a flatpack, we need to provide a way to
build it from source for license reason, at which point we are back to
square one.

- if the .deb download the flatpack at installation time, then how do
we make sure the file stays available during the lifetime of the release
at the time the user actually installs it ?

- what about security updates ?

If you need examples of the problems that happen, look at the
flashplugin-nonfree package.

Cheers,
-- 
Bill. 

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Bug#908155: Bug #908155 in developers-reference marked as pending

2020-04-09 Thread Moritz Mühlenhoff
On Fri, Feb 08, 2019 at 07:26:14PM +, Holger Levsen wrote:
> Control: tag -1 pending
> 
> Hello,
> 
> Bug #908155 in developers-reference reported by you has been fixed in the
> Git repository and is awaiting an upload. You can see the commit
> message below and you can check the diff of the fix at:
> 
> https://salsa.debian.org/debian/developers-reference/commit/65fd955090f0a69e28bd2a9eb98992ebbc553861
> 
> 
> developer-duties.dbk: improve paragraph about coordinating with upstreams. 
> Closes: #908155.
> 
> Signed-off-by: Holger Levsen 
> 

There seems to have been a regression, maybe this got lost in the Sphinx 
conversion?

The current version in unstable (11.0.10) again reads:

| If it's an upstream problem, you have to forward it to the upstream author.
| Forwarding a bug is not enough, you have to check at each release if the
| bug has been fixed or not.

Cheers,
Moritz