Bug#1030382: encourage Vcs-Git over other Vcs-* headers

2023-02-20 Thread Bill Allombert
On Mon, Feb 20, 2023 at 01:59:21PM +, Jelmer Vernooij wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 09, 2023 at 02:15:42PM -0700, Sean Whitton wrote:
> > Hello,
> > 
> > On Fri 03 Feb 2023 at 05:24PM GMT, Jelmer Vernooij wrote:
> > 
> > > Package: debian-policy
> > > Severity: wishlist
> > >
> > > Policy currently describes Vcs-* headers as something optional, but stops 
> > > to
> > > endorse a particular Vcs.
> > >
> > > At this point, it seems uncontroversial to encourage use of Vcs-Git
> > > specifically here. Apart from technical arguments, it's the vcs that the
> > > majority of packages in the archive uses - and thus will have the better
> > > tooling, less of a learning curve for other contributors, etc.
> > >
> > > There are very few holdouts of other vcses in the archive. I count 62
> > > (ignoring those with an alioth URL):
> > >
> > >  * 26 on Svn
> > >  * 3 on Cvs
> > >  * 4 on Hg (2 are hg/hg-buildpackage)
> > >  * 39 on bzr (half of these are actually bzr and related packages, which 
> > > I maintain)
> > 
> > This strikes me as a matter for devref not Policy?
> 
> I've created a PR for devref - 
> https://salsa.debian.org/debian/developers-reference/-/merge_requests/41
> 
> Are you saying that it doesn't belong in policy because it'd be a
> recommendation rather than a must/should (at this point?), or because it's 
> more about the
> workflow inside of Debian than package contents?

Yes this is about the workflow and not the package, and so far we have let 
developpers pick
whatever workflows suit them.

Cheers,
-- 
Bill. 

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Bug#1030382: encourage Vcs-Git over other Vcs-* headers

2023-02-20 Thread Sean Whitton
Hello,

On Mon 20 Feb 2023 at 01:59PM GMT, Jelmer Vernooij wrote:

> Are you saying that it doesn't belong in policy because it'd be a
> recommendation rather than a must/should (at this point?), or because it's 
> more about the
> workflow inside of Debian than package contents?

Thanks for filing the patch.  As to your question, it's the latter (I'm
not sure whether or not the former is true, but in any case, Policy
contains recommendations in addition to musts and shoulds).

-- 
Sean Whitton


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Bug#1030382: encourage Vcs-Git over other Vcs-* headers

2023-02-20 Thread Jelmer Vernooij
On Thu, Feb 09, 2023 at 02:15:42PM -0700, Sean Whitton wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> On Fri 03 Feb 2023 at 05:24PM GMT, Jelmer Vernooij wrote:
> 
> > Package: debian-policy
> > Severity: wishlist
> >
> > Policy currently describes Vcs-* headers as something optional, but stops to
> > endorse a particular Vcs.
> >
> > At this point, it seems uncontroversial to encourage use of Vcs-Git
> > specifically here. Apart from technical arguments, it's the vcs that the
> > majority of packages in the archive uses - and thus will have the better
> > tooling, less of a learning curve for other contributors, etc.
> >
> > There are very few holdouts of other vcses in the archive. I count 62
> > (ignoring those with an alioth URL):
> >
> >  * 26 on Svn
> >  * 3 on Cvs
> >  * 4 on Hg (2 are hg/hg-buildpackage)
> >  * 39 on bzr (half of these are actually bzr and related packages, which I 
> > maintain)
> 
> This strikes me as a matter for devref not Policy?

I've created a PR for devref - 
https://salsa.debian.org/debian/developers-reference/-/merge_requests/41

Are you saying that it doesn't belong in policy because it'd be a
recommendation rather than a must/should (at this point?), or because it's more 
about the
workflow inside of Debian than package contents?

Cheers,

Jelmer



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