Re: 6.1.3. Multiple binary packages question
On Sun, 18 Jun 2023 at 23:18:24 +, Holger Levsen wrote: > On Sun, Jun 18, 2023 at 11:19:06PM +0200, Bill Allombert wrote: > > The drawback of dh_install is that it requires more diskspace to build than > > dh_movefiles but is less error prone. > > So unless your package is very large, it is safer to use dh_install. > > interesting, I've never heard of dh_movefiles before. It's the tool that was used before dh_install existed. Its man page says: Note: dh_install is a much better program, and you are recommended to use it instead of dh_movefiles. > what does "more diskspace" mean, however? kilobytes? terabytes? 100% of > the diskspace used by the files installed? 200%? The cost is 100% of the disk space used by the files being installed, if your filesystem doesn't support reflinks; or 0% if it does. dh_install does something similar to cp --reflink=auto debian/tmp/usr/bin/foo debian/foo-bin/usr/bin/foo whereas dh_movefiles is more like mv debian/tmp/usr/bin/foo debian/foo-bin/usr/bin/foo On btrfs and other reflink-capable filesystems, dh_install should be basically zero-cost, as a result of --reflink=auto. I'd personally only consider using dh_movefiles for the largest of "data" packages. Things like openarena-data and nexuiz-data (hundreds of MiB) are fine with dh_install, but 0ad-data (about 3 GiB) would maybe benefit? (But if I maintained 0ad-data, I'd probably still use dh_install, and just make sure that I built it on btrfs or another reflink-capable filesystem if time and space were a concern.) > "my" largest package was less than 100mb in size, which can be a bit annoying > for > uploads, but for diskspace during build, several gigabytes (or more) are > not uncommon, so I'm having a somewhat hard time imaginening that the > above is a relavant argument in most situations. If your package's total Installed-Size is 100M and we assume the compressed size is (say) 60M, then I would expect the build to need: quite a lot ./configure && make + 100M make install DESTDIR=debian/tmp + 100M dh_install + 60Mdh_builddeb At best, dh_movefiles saves you the second "+ 100M". smcv
Re: 6.1.3. Multiple binary packages question
On Sun, Jun 18, 2023 at 11:19:06PM +0200, Bill Allombert wrote: > On Sat, Jun 17, 2023 at 09:21:00PM +, Holger Levsen wrote: > > On Mon, Apr 03, 2023 at 09:29:04AM -0600, Sam Hartman wrote: > > > > "Kristian" == Kristian Penno writes: > > > Kristian> source package is referenced. The lyx source package uses > > > Kristian> some shell commands to move files around in the rules > > > Kristian> file. Is this preferred to using debhelper > > > Kristian> .install files? > > > No. > > > If .install files work for you, that's better. > The drawback of dh_install is that it requires more diskspace to build than > dh_movefiles but is less error prone. > So unless your package is very large, it is safer to use dh_install. interesting, I've never heard of dh_movefiles before. what does "more diskspace" mean, however? kilobytes? terabytes? 100% of the diskspace used by the files installed? 200%? "my" largest package was less than 100mb in size, which can be a bit annoying for uploads, but for diskspace during build, several gigabytes (or more) are not uncommon, so I'm having a somewhat hard time imaginening that the above is a relavant argument in most situations. But I might be wrong. :) -- cheers, Holger ⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶⣦⠀ ⣾⠁⢠⠒⠀⣿⡁ holger@(debian|reproducible-builds|layer-acht).org ⢿⡄⠘⠷⠚⠋⠀ OpenPGP: B8BF54137B09D35CF026FE9D 091AB856069AAA1C ⠈⠳⣄ Homophobia is a sin against god. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: 6.1.3. Multiple binary packages question
On Sat, Jun 17, 2023 at 09:21:00PM +, Holger Levsen wrote: > On Mon, Apr 03, 2023 at 09:29:04AM -0600, Sam Hartman wrote: > > > "Kristian" == Kristian Penno writes: > > Kristian> source package is referenced. The lyx source package uses > > Kristian> some shell commands to move files around in the rules > > Kristian> file. Is this preferred to using debhelper > > Kristian> .install files? > > No. > > If .install files work for you, that's better. The drawback of dh_install is that it requires more diskspace to build than dh_movefiles but is less error prone. So unless your package is very large, it is safer to use dh_install. Cheers, -- Bill. Imagine a large red swirl here.
Re: 6.1.3. Multiple binary packages question
On Mon, Apr 03, 2023 at 09:29:04AM -0600, Sam Hartman wrote: > > "Kristian" == Kristian Penno writes: > Kristian> source package is referenced. The lyx source package uses > Kristian> some shell commands to move files around in the rules > Kristian> file. Is this preferred to using debhelper > Kristian> .install files? > No. > If .install files work for you, that's better. thank you, Kristian and Sam, I've updated src:dev-ref in git to refer to libxml2 instead of lyx. https://salsa.debian.org/debian/developers-reference/-/commit/4bc621bb5fae5ed43a6873e8bbd26c397ab78b61 -- cheers, Holger ⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶⣦⠀ ⣾⠁⢠⠒⠀⣿⡁ holger@(debian|reproducible-builds|layer-acht).org ⢿⡄⠘⠷⠚⠋⠀ OpenPGP: B8BF54137B09D35CF026FE9D 091AB856069AAA1C ⠈⠳⣄ Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but not their own facts. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: 6.1.3. Multiple binary packages question
> "Kristian" == Kristian Penno writes: Kristian> source package is referenced. The lyx source package uses Kristian> some shell commands to move files around in the rules Kristian> file. Is this preferred to using debhelper Kristian> .install files? No. If .install files work for you, that's better.
