Re: gdb don't want my xserver core file ...

[Joel Klecker]

At 15:20 +0200 1999-06-14, Sven LUTHER wrote:
yes, sure, but it would be more convenient to have a true patch, any 
link on how to

dissect rpm files without rpm installed ? i guess the srpms format is upstream
source + a load of patches applied, isn't it ?


, rpm2cpio 
file.src.rpm | cpio --extract.


srpms are a modified cpio archive containing the upstream tarball, 
zero or more patches, and the .spec file.

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Debian in a PowerPC 43P 133

[Paulo Henrique Baptista de Oliveira]

Hi all,
anyone here knows if I can install Debian in a PowerPC 43P 133?
X runs well in this machine?
Thanks, Paulo Henrique

Re: XFree86 and ATI accel.

[Geert Uytterhoeven]

On Mon, 14 Jun 1999, Sven LUTHER wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 14, 1999 at 03:28:02PM +0200, Igor Falcomata' wrote:
> > Sven LUTHER wrote:
> > 
> > > There are still some problems with some ATI boards with the accelerated X
> > > server i made.
> > 
> > Yepp,
> > (please excuse my bad english)
> > 
> > on my powerbook g3/233 with ati rage-lt I'm unable to run your server
> > accellerated..
> > 
> > dmesg:
> > 
> > [...]
> > (**) FBDev: Using default frame buffer video mode
> > (--) FBDev: Frame buffer device: OFfb ATY,RageLT
 ^^^
> > (--) FBDev: Video memory: 1536K @ 0x82800800
> > (--) FBDev: MMIO regs: 0K @ (nil)
> > (--) FBDev: Type 0 type_aux 0 bits_per_pixel 16
> > (--) FBDev: Hardware accelerator: None
> > (--) FBDev: No driver support for hardware acceleration

Sure it's unaccelerated: Igor is using offb. To get acceleration, he must use
atyfb instead.

Greetings,

Geert

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Department of Computer Science -- Katholieke Universiteit Leuven -- Belgium

Re: XFree86 and ATI accel.

[Sven LUTHER]

On Mon, Jun 14, 1999 at 03:28:02PM +0200, Igor Falcomata' wrote:
> Sven LUTHER wrote:
> 
> > There are still some problems with some ATI boards with the accelerated X
> > server i made.
> 
> Yepp,
> (please excuse my bad english)
> 
> on my powerbook g3/233 with ati rage-lt I'm unable to run your server
> accellerated..
> 
> dmesg:
> 
> [...]
> MacOS display is /pci/ATY,RageLTPro
> Using unsupported 1024x768 ATY,RageLTPro at 82800800, depth=16,
> pitch=2048
> Console: switching to colour frame buffer device 128x48
> fb0: Open Firmware frame buffer device on /pci/ATY,RageLTPro
> [...]
> 
> startx:
> 
> [...]
> (**) FBDev: Using default frame buffer video mode
> (--) FBDev: Frame buffer device: OFfb ATY,RageLT
> (--) FBDev: Video memory: 1536K @ 0x82800800
> (--) FBDev: MMIO regs: 0K @ (nil)
> (--) FBDev: Type 0 type_aux 0 bits_per_pixel 16
> (--) FBDev: Hardware accelerator: None
> (--) FBDev: No driver support for hardware acceleration
> bpp = 16, depth = 15, BitsPerRGB = 5
> (--) FBDev: Using cfb16 driver
> [...]
> 
> fbset -i
> Frame buffer device information:
> Name: OFfb ATY,RageLT
> Address : 0x82800800
> Size: 1572864
> Type: PACKED PIXELS
> Visual  : TRUECOLOR
> XPanStep: 0
> YPanStep: 0
> YWrapStep   : 0
> LineLength  : 2048
> Accelerator : No

Ok, i will try to build a server that recognize your board ...

Friendly,

Sven LUTHER

other XF86_FBDev issues

[Igor Falcomata']

using either the default (http://powerpc.debian.org/~koptein/) either
the experimental Sven Luther port, after 15/20 mins of total incativity
of the server (no kb input, no video output, etc.) I got, either in XDM
either running startx standalone, a..

-- Fatal server error:
fbdevUpdateColormap: FBIOPUTCMAP failed (Function not implemented)

Igor

Igor Falcomata'
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Network Security & Data Defense

Re: XFree86 and ATI accel.

[Igor Falcomata']

Sven LUTHER wrote:

> There are still some problems with some ATI boards with the accelerated X
> server i made.

Yepp,
(please excuse my bad english)

on my powerbook g3/233 with ati rage-lt I'm unable to run your server
accellerated..

dmesg:

[...]
MacOS display is /pci/ATY,RageLTPro
Using unsupported 1024x768 ATY,RageLTPro at 82800800, depth=16,
pitch=2048
Console: switching to colour frame buffer device 128x48
fb0: Open Firmware frame buffer device on /pci/ATY,RageLTPro
[...]

startx:

[...]
(**) FBDev: Using default frame buffer video mode
(--) FBDev: Frame buffer device: OFfb ATY,RageLT
(--) FBDev: Video memory: 1536K @ 0x82800800
(--) FBDev: MMIO regs: 0K @ (nil)
(--) FBDev: Type 0 type_aux 0 bits_per_pixel 16
(--) FBDev: Hardware accelerator: None
(--) FBDev: No driver support for hardware acceleration
bpp = 16, depth = 15, BitsPerRGB = 5
(--) FBDev: Using cfb16 driver
[...]

fbset -i
Frame buffer device information:
Name: OFfb ATY,RageLT
Address : 0x82800800
Size: 1572864
Type: PACKED PIXELS
Visual  : TRUECOLOR
XPanStep: 0
YPanStep: 0
YWrapStep   : 0
LineLength  : 2048
Accelerator : No


I use a standard/dumb XF86Config copied from examples. So I don't force
any parameter in this file. I have also tried to force -mach64 in xinit
but this param don't work in this server.

Using the hacked Xpmac-990203-glibc1.99 with linuxppc work fine
(accellerated) on my mac under linuxppc r4

Any suggestion to get accellerated?

best regards,
igor


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Re: gdb don't want my xserver core file ...

[Sven LUTHER]

On Mon, Jun 14, 1999 at 03:15:50PM +0200, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote:
> On Mon, 14 Jun 1999, Sven LUTHER wrote:
> > On Mon, Jun 14, 1999 at 01:06:10PM +0200, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote:
> > > On Mon, 14 Jun 1999, Sven LUTHER wrote:
> > > > On Mon, Jun 14, 1999 at 12:48:27PM +0200, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote:
> > > > > On Mon, 14 Jun 1999, Sven LUTHER wrote:
> > > > > > I am trying to debug the 3.9 Xserver using gdb. The server crashes 
> > > > > > and produces
> > > > > > a core file, which i try to use with gdb. Gdb loads the core file 
> > > > > > but says
> > > > > > something about not recognizing it.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Does someone know what is going on ?
> > > > > 
> > > > > gdb 4.18? The Debian binary without the PPC patches?
> > > > 
> > > > Yes, this one 
> > > > 
> > > > so : Where can i find the patches, and i suppose i will have to build 
> > > > gdb with the
> > > > patch applied, or does someone have a patched debian package already ? 
> > > 
> > > Gary Thomas already has patches: 
> > > ftp://ftp.linuxppc.org/linuxppc/users/gdt/
> > 
> > Are you sure about the address, couldn't find any gdb patch there, but then
> > maybe i missed something ...
> 
> I used cut-'n-paste from Gary's mail, but recently I indeed found out the URL
> is wrong.
> 
> > there is a srpms in redhat/srpms though named gdb-4.18-1a.src.rpm.
> 
> That should be THE ONE.

yes, sure, but it would be more convenient to have a true patch, any link on 
how to
dissect rpm files without rpm installed ? i guess the srpms format is upstream
source + a load of patches applied, isn't it ?

Friendly,

Sven LUTHER

Re: gdb don't want my xserver core file ...

[Geert Uytterhoeven]

On Mon, 14 Jun 1999, Sven LUTHER wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 14, 1999 at 01:06:10PM +0200, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote:
> > On Mon, 14 Jun 1999, Sven LUTHER wrote:
> > > On Mon, Jun 14, 1999 at 12:48:27PM +0200, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote:
> > > > On Mon, 14 Jun 1999, Sven LUTHER wrote:
> > > > > I am trying to debug the 3.9 Xserver using gdb. The server crashes 
> > > > > and produces
> > > > > a core file, which i try to use with gdb. Gdb loads the core file but 
> > > > > says
> > > > > something about not recognizing it.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Does someone know what is going on ?
> > > > 
> > > > gdb 4.18? The Debian binary without the PPC patches?
> > > 
> > > Yes, this one 
> > > 
> > > so : Where can i find the patches, and i suppose i will have to build gdb 
> > > with the
> > > patch applied, or does someone have a patched debian package already ? 
> > 
> > Gary Thomas already has patches: ftp://ftp.linuxppc.org/linuxppc/users/gdt/
> 
> Are you sure about the address, couldn't find any gdb patch there, but then
> maybe i missed something ...

I used cut-'n-paste from Gary's mail, but recently I indeed found out the URL
is wrong.

> there is a srpms in redhat/srpms though named gdb-4.18-1a.src.rpm.

That should be THE ONE.

Greetings,

Geert

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Department of Computer Science -- Katholieke Universiteit Leuven -- Belgium

Re: gdb don't want my xserver core file ...

[Sven LUTHER]

On Mon, Jun 14, 1999 at 01:06:10PM +0200, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote:
> On Mon, 14 Jun 1999, Sven LUTHER wrote:
> > On Mon, Jun 14, 1999 at 12:48:27PM +0200, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote:
> > > On Mon, 14 Jun 1999, Sven LUTHER wrote:
> > > > I am trying to debug the 3.9 Xserver using gdb. The server crashes and 
> > > > produces
> > > > a core file, which i try to use with gdb. Gdb loads the core file but 
> > > > says
> > > > something about not recognizing it.
> > > > 
> > > > Does someone know what is going on ?
> > > 
> > > gdb 4.18? The Debian binary without the PPC patches?
> > 
> > Yes, this one 
> > 
> > so : Where can i find the patches, and i suppose i will have to build gdb 
> > with the
> > patch applied, or does someone have a patched debian package already ? 
> 
> Gary Thomas already has patches: ftp://ftp.linuxppc.org/linuxppc/users/gdt/

Are you sure about the address, couldn't find any gdb patch there, but then
maybe i missed something ...

i only did find this :

-r--r--r--   1 root root35008 Jan 20 09:53 diffs-2.2.0p7-Jan20
-r--r--r--   1 root root 1830 Jan 25 02:43 
linux-2.2.0p9+glibc-1.99.patch
-r--r--r--   1 root root 13588559 Jan 24 13:54 linux-2.2.0p9.tgz
drwxr-xr-x   2 root root 4096 Jun  7 19:11 linux-2.2.1-patches
drwxr-xr-x   2 root root 4096 Jun  7 19:11 linux-2.2.6-patches
drwxr-xr-x   2 root root 4096 Jun  7 18:04 private
drwxr-xr-x   4 root root 4096 Jun  7 18:04 redhat
-r--r--r--   1 root root   376811 Feb 16 23:58 rpm.tgz
-r--r--r--   1 root root   761508 Jan 24 01:36 zImage-2.2.0p9
-r--r--r--   1 root root   740216 Feb 23 02:18 zImage-2.2.1

there is a srpms in redhat/srpms though named gdb-4.18-1a.src.rpm.

Friendly,

Sven LUTHER

Re: gdb don't want my xserver core file ...

[Geert Uytterhoeven]

On Mon, 14 Jun 1999, Sven LUTHER wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 14, 1999 at 12:48:27PM +0200, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote:
> > On Mon, 14 Jun 1999, Sven LUTHER wrote:
> > > I am trying to debug the 3.9 Xserver using gdb. The server crashes and 
> > > produces
> > > a core file, which i try to use with gdb. Gdb loads the core file but says
> > > something about not recognizing it.
> > > 
> > > Does someone know what is going on ?
> > 
> > gdb 4.18? The Debian binary without the PPC patches?
> 
> Yes, this one 
> 
> so : Where can i find the patches, and i suppose i will have to build gdb 
> with the
> patch applied, or does someone have a patched debian package already ? 

Gary Thomas already has patches: ftp://ftp.linuxppc.org/linuxppc/users/gdt/

Greetings,

Geert

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Wavelets, Linux/{m68k~Amiga,PPC~CHRP}  http://www.cs.kuleuven.ac.be/~geert/
Department of Computer Science -- Katholieke Universiteit Leuven -- Belgium

Re: gdb don't want my xserver core file ...

[Sven LUTHER]

On Mon, Jun 14, 1999 at 12:48:27PM +0200, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote:
> On Mon, 14 Jun 1999, Sven LUTHER wrote:
> > I am trying to debug the 3.9 Xserver using gdb. The server crashes and 
> > produces
> > a core file, which i try to use with gdb. Gdb loads the core file but says
> > something about not recognizing it.
> > 
> > Does someone know what is going on ?
> 
> gdb 4.18? The Debian binary without the PPC patches?

Yes, this one 

so : Where can i find the patches, and i suppose i will have to build gdb with 
the
patch applied, or does someone have a patched debian package already ? 

Friendly,

Sven LUTHER

Re: gdb don't want my xserver core file ...

[Geert Uytterhoeven]

On Mon, 14 Jun 1999, Sven LUTHER wrote:
> I am trying to debug the 3.9 Xserver using gdb. The server crashes and 
> produces
> a core file, which i try to use with gdb. Gdb loads the core file but says
> something about not recognizing it.
> 
> Does someone know what is going on ?

gdb 4.18? The Debian binary without the PPC patches?

Greetings,

Geert

--
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Wavelets, Linux/{m68k~Amiga,PPC~CHRP}  http://www.cs.kuleuven.ac.be/~geert/
Department of Computer Science -- Katholieke Universiteit Leuven -- Belgium

gdb don't want my xserver core file ...

[Sven LUTHER]

Hello, ...

I am trying to debug the 3.9 Xserver using gdb. The server crashes and produces
a core file, which i try to use with gdb. Gdb loads the core file but says
something about not recognizing it.

Does someone know what is going on ?

Friendly,

Sven LUTHER

Re: Request proof-reading: installing Debian over LinuxPPC

[aaron .'. culich]

> > (make sure the file is not gzipped, as there is no decompression
> > utility onboard at the moment).

oops -- i was mistaken about the gzip.  after double-checking the
ramdisk i found gzip hiding in there

> Aha, well, I'm glad I didn't do the LinuxPPC installation for nothing,
> then. :>  I wouldn't have been able to do this on my system.  IIRC, HFS+
> is not supported, so I wouldn't have had anything mountable that I could
> have gotten the base tarball from!

another alternative assuming you've got an ethernet card and another
machine you can talk to is to do:

ifconfig 192.168.23.17 netmask 255.255.255.0 up

(or whatever your IP/NETMASK combo is)

and then:

mount -t nfs 192.168.23.23:/mirrors/debian /mnt/debian

just put the base2_1 tarball some place you can NFS mount and you're
set-- in my case i went a little modem-crazy and did an entire mirror
of the i386 and powerpc arms of potato on my i386 box. :)

-aaron

p.s. i'm cc'ing this to the list, cause it could be useful to whoever
might be following this thread if they also have that HFS+ issue...

Re: Request proof-reading: installing Debian over LinuxPPC

[aaron .'. culich]

William Ono <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> (I didn't see that the mail I responded to was Cc:'ed to the list.)

whoops -- that was me being tired and not watching my headers... :)

> Yes, that's a good idea, but it's also something I haven't managed to do
> on my own system. :>  (The FBDev server aborts with Signal 11 immediately
> after rejecting two of three modelines.)

There are two things that i had problems with setting up X:

1) In XF86Config my ModeLine lines were UNcommented.  FBDev wants
those lines to be commented out.  If you copy the file from
/usr/doc/xserver-common/examples/XF86Config.eg, I think it has most
everything set up correctly.

2) libnfslock.  If lots of stuff seems to be segfaulting and otherwise 
crashing[1] make sure this library is not installed.  At very least,
edit out the nfslock line /etc/ld.so.preload.  I haven't checked to
see if it has been recently fixed; i also haven't had the time to
track down the problems and file a useful bug report[2].  In
any event, getting rid of it fixed quite a few problems on my systems
(nfs locking, who needs it ;)

3) (This has nothing to do with setting up X, but I just thought of it 
as another problem).  If you happen to be doing the install with a
2.1.XX series kernel, make sure you comment out the spoofprotect line
in /etc/init.d/netbase or it will likely cause a kernel panic when the 
script runs Or better yet, use the 2.2 series kernel.

> > 2) installing Debian without having to pre-install LinuxPPC
> 
> I looked into doing this, but I found that the LinuxPPC initrd comes with
> very, very little software.  I couldn't find tar, I found that rm was a
> symlink to /bin/install2, and I saw a whole bunch of other neat hacks to
> minimize the installer :>

Yeah-- it made me scratch my head for a while, but i really didn't
want to download a bunch files I would just be throwing away and was
averse to installing redhat; even if only briefly...

> > If you think #2 would be useful to some people, I'd be glad to write
> > up the full procedure for you to include.
> 
> I would love to include this on the page.

1) When staring at BootX, enter as a kernel argument (with ramdisk
checked): 
init=/bin/sh

2) Figure out what disk you are going to partition (if you haven't
already partitioned it).  In my case I used /dev/sdb; you'll have to
adjust the mknod arguments[3] according to your HD setup.

3) cd /dev

4) mknod sdb b 8 16

5) pdisk /dev/sdb.  [ Insert pdisk instructions here ]
For me  /dev/sdb3   /
/dev/sdb4   swap
/dev/sdb5   /usr
6) mknod sdb3 b 8 19; mknod sdb5 b 8 21
Make sure you get the major/minor correct, otherwise you'll
wipe out other disks or partitions.

8) mke2fs /dev/sdb3; mke2fs /dev/sdb5; mkswap /dev/sdb4

9) we'll also mount our mac partition where base2_1.tar is stored
(make sure the file is not gzipped, as there is no decompression
utility onboard at the moment).
mknod sda5 b 8 5

9) mkdir /mnt/root; mkdir /mnt/mac

10) mount -t hfs /dev/sda5 /mac

11) mount /dev/sdb3 /mnt/root

12) cd /mnt/root

13) this next step assumes that you have your base tarball at the base 
of your mac hardrive in a folder called debian (i.e. that your debian
folder is not on the desktop):

cat /mnt/mac/linux/base2_1.tar | cpio --extract --make-directories

14) cd into /mnt/root/etc and create all the necessary config files
(e.g. fstab) using: cat > fstab

15) This step is absolutely critical.  If you reboot without
unmounting first, sometimes not all the info has really been written
to disk; you will have done all the above work for nothing!

cd / ; umount /mnt/mac; umount /mnt/root 

16) reboot the machine (hard or keyboard reset; there is no reboot
command on the ramdisk).

17) this time at bootX, enter init=/bin/sh with ramdisk NOT checked.

18) /etc/init.d/checkroot.sh  (i can't remember if that file exists
yet or not.  if not, then: mount -o remount,rw /  after fsck'ing the
partition).

19) dpkg --configure -a

20) reboot again ( you should have /sbin/reboot now)

21) start up with NO ramdisk and NO init arg (yay-- a real start up!)

22) follow the rest of the docs from here ... 

enjoy!

-aaron

p.s. if someone follows these directions and they lead you astray,
email me for clarification... it's late and i've likely twiddled a few
things the wrong way in my writing.  if you trash your system with
these directions it's not my fault (it was just MacOS anyway, right?)


Footnotes: 
[1] well, this presumes that you followed the directions for the bash
fix! :)

[2] it may have something to do with all the fun bugginess in the new
glibc 2.1?

[3] here is a quickie guide to major/minor numbers for mknod:

hda 3   0
hda[1-63]   3   1-63
hdb 3   64
hdb[1-63]   3   65-127

hdc22   0
hdc[1-63]  22   1-63
hdd  

Re: Request proof-reading: installing Debian over LinuxPPC

[William Ono]

On Mon, 14 Jun 1999, William Ono wrote:

> I couldn't find tar
[on the LinuxPPC installer initrd]

Before I get deluged with email about this, I just took another look at
the initrd and discovered cpio there.  And g(un|)zip.  Duh!

(Yes, I followed up to my own post.  Yes, I'm a geek. :> )

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Re: Request proof-reading: installing Debian over LinuxPPC

[William Ono]

(I didn't see that the mail I responded to was Cc:'ed to the list.)

-- Forwarded message --
Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 00:01:24 -0700 (PDT)
From: William Ono <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "aaron .'. culich" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Request proof-reading: installing Debian over LinuxPPC

On 14 Jun 1999, aaron .'. culich wrote:

> (except the BootX-hd.jpg image is broken).

That's odd, I just checked my Apache error.log and didn't find an error. 
I think it must have been due to overload .. my web server normally takes
something on the order of three hits a day, so I keep the number of
processes loaded very low.  Now, though, in the space of ten minutes I saw
24 requests.  Whew! 

> 1) a note about setting up X (i.e. copying and tweaking
> /usr/doc/xserver-common/examples/XF86Config.eg to /etc/X11/XF86Config)

Yes, that's a good idea, but it's also something I haven't managed to do
on my own system. :>  (The FBDev server aborts with Signal 11 immediately
after rejecting two of three modelines.)

> 2) installing Debian without having to pre-install LinuxPPC

I looked into doing this, but I found that the LinuxPPC initrd comes with
very, very little software.  I couldn't find tar, I found that rm was a
symlink to /bin/install2, and I saw a whole bunch of other neat hacks to
minimize the installer :>

> If you think #2 would be useful to some people, I'd be glad to write
> up the full procedure for you to include.

I would love to include this on the page.

Thanks for your response!


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Re: Request proof-reading: installing Debian over LinuxPPC

[aaron .'. culich]

William Ono <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Hi, folks.  I received a handful of responses when I asked if anyone was
> interested in a document about installing Debian over LinuxPPC, so I
> decided to give it a try.  I used the notes I took while doing this on my
> iMac, so the instructions might be a little iMac-centric.

Hi.  That's great that there is now a comprehensive page on installing 
Debian on a mac; all the instructions are clear and look correct
(except the BootX-hd.jpg image is broken).  It looks basically like
the procedure I used on my power computing clone.

There are a couple of things you may want to add:

1) a note about setting up X (i.e. copying and tweaking
/usr/doc/xserver-common/examples/XF86Config.eg to /etc/X11/XF86Config)

2) installing Debian without having to pre-install LinuxPPC; if you
don't have a CD or a fast network connection handy, the impatient may
not want to download everything for the LinuxPPC install.  You can
actually install Debian with just BootX, kernel image, and a ramdisk
from LinuxPPC.  You give BootX a kernel argument of init=/bin/sh and
then do a couple of hackery-things by hand to avoid the whole redhat
install. Once complete there are only a couple of other things done
different from your document.

If you think #2 would be useful to some people, I'd be glad to write
up the full procedure for you to include.

-aaron

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Re: Ready to install on a G3 laptop. What's the current procedure?

[William Ono]

On Thu, 10 Jun 1999, bigj wrote:

> I have put together a detailed page on how to put debian on a G3.  
> It's located at http://scw.ucsd.edu/~bigj/pbg3linux.html
> I'd like reviews etc.  

bigj, please accept my appologies for duplicating your work.  A minute or
so after announcing my page, it occurred to me that a page on a similar
theme had crossed the list.  I checked my list archive, found your page,
read it, and discovered that we were discussing much the same thing.

I hope the credit line that appears near the top of my page is acceptable
to you.

Thanks.

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Request proof-reading: installing Debian over LinuxPPC

[William Ono]

Hi, folks.  I received a handful of responses when I asked if anyone was
interested in a document about installing Debian over LinuxPPC, so I
decided to give it a try.  I used the notes I took while doing this on my
iMac, so the instructions might be a little iMac-centric.

Please look over http://www.soundwave.net/~wmono/linuxppc-debian/>
and let me know what you think.  If you feel the page is worth linking to,
please feel free to do so.

Thanks!

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Re: Installing Debian base2_2.tgz (fwd)

[David Fong]

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Thank you William for your very prompt and detailed reply!

The information you provided is very handy, especially for Linux
novices such as myself.

However, I think you must have missed out some little detail in
your notes, because my Debian still doesn't boot successfully.

The boot-up process stops after reporting that there are no local file
systems to mount (Debian has already reported that it had mounted by
root partition). I did copy my /etc/fstab (and modified it) as advised.
Debian does not complain, it just stops!

Any ideas?

Cheerio, David.

>I'll type up the notes I took while installing potato on my iMac.  I'm
>assuming that the potato base tarball is the only thing on your system.

>- Make the files in debian-powerpc-9902/msg00100.html, ignoring the

[http://www.debian.org/Lists-Archives/debian-powerpc-9902/msg00100.html]

>fact that it says base2_1.tgz there.  I had to use cat>file here,
>because the distribution I hijacked -- LinuxPPC R4 -- didn't have vi.
>(Hopefully you have a half-working system you can mount your to-be root
>partition under to do this.  Remember that unconfigured.sh needs to 
>be zapped.
>- Reboot, using your partially-working root partition.
>- Enter runlevel S (type 'S').
>- remount root read-write. (mount -o rw,remount /)

[I used `mount -t ext2 -o remount /dev/sda6 /', of course /dev/sda6
applies to my system only]

>- if you have other partitions, remount them rw now too.
>- mount /proc
>- configure your network.  (I had created a /etc/init.d/network on
>the previous reboot, which I ran at this point.  I don't think you
>have done this yet. Just run the appropriate ifconfig and route
>commands, or however you configure your network.)
>- cat > /etc/apt/sources.list
>Add appropriate entries here.  You want unstable, because there's
>no powerpc in stable (slink).
>- dselect
>- Configure pre-installed packages
>(Now you have a /etc/inittab and all that other stuff.)
>- Update packages list.
>- fix libc6:  apt-get install libc6
>- fix bash.  This is a little complicated.  You can choose not to upgrade
>bash or any packages that bash depends on, or you can do something
>similar to this.
>   - unpack the new bash .deb but do not install it. (dpkg -x)

[I used dpkg -x (path to bash.deb including filename) /home]

>   - apt-get install bash   (hey, it broke!)

[well, I used dpkg again, and a segmentation fault occurred]

>   - mv /bin/bash /bin/bash-old
>   - mv /where/you/did/dpkg-x/bin/bash /bin/bash
>   - apt-get install bash   (this time it should work.)

[dpkg worked this time! What is more, during shutdown, Debian didn't
complain that `/' was still busy. In fact, shutdown was successful
despite the earlier segmentation fault. I can see a light at the end of
the tunnel now... :) ]

>- Now upgrade other packages, if you wish.

>I hope this is useful to you.

[Thanks again]

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