Re: Okay, where is it?

[Chris Ivanovich]

At 7:16 PM -0400 9/18/00, Daniel Jacobowitz wrote:

On Mon, Sep 18, 2000 at 02:49:44PM -0500, Chris Ivanovich wrote:

 I checked out the file paths in the docs, and made allowances for the
 fact that the LSL CD has different directories than the docs list.
 But no matter what I type in this step, when I hit "OK" the cursor
 pops back up the the line where I specify the file path.  And what's
 with the second field on the screen with the <> in it?  I don't
 find it mentioned in the documentation.


Different directories?  How different, and did they call the CDs
official?  That's not ok.  The files should be in
dists/potato/main/disks-powerpc/current/ somewhere...


Yes, I believe that these are "official" disks.  And there is _no_ 
"current" directory!  I've been checking out 
dists/potato/main/disks-powerpc/2.2.16-2000-07-26/powermac/with 9 files and a directory with 4 disk images>.


Could it be just that this is a bad set of disks and I need to look 
elsewhere?  I purchased them because I wanted something bootable 
(since I have DSL I don't mind downloading the stuff, but having it 
in one package was nice).  I've since found out that I can't boot 
from them, and if this isn't an official distribution, maybe I should 
look elsewhere.  Any suggestions?



The <...> is probably some kind of browse...  Afraid I don't recall.


Well, I couldn't get it to actually _do_ anything when it was 
selected and I hit  so I wondered what the function was...


Still working on it,

Chris
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Re: Okay, where is it?

[Daniel Jacobowitz]

On Mon, Sep 18, 2000 at 02:49:44PM -0500, Chris Ivanovich wrote:
> I checked out the file paths in the docs, and made allowances for the 
> fact that the LSL CD has different directories than the docs list. 
> But no matter what I type in this step, when I hit "OK" the cursor 
> pops back up the the line where I specify the file path.  And what's 
> with the second field on the screen with the <> in it?  I don't 
> find it mentioned in the documentation.

Different directories?  How different, and did they call the CDs
official?  That's not ok.  The files should be in
dists/potato/main/disks-powerpc/current/ somewhere...

The <...> is probably some kind of browse...  Afraid I don't recall.


Dan

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Okay, where is it?

[Chris Ivanovich]

Alright, I'm a knucklehead.  And I need some basic help...

I've installed and am running Debian Potato on a PC (it's doing the 
IP Masquerading and acting as the firewall for my home network), and 
I thought that I'd load Potato on my G3 PowerBook, as well.


But then, depression set in.  I can't boot off of the CDs (purchased 
from LSL) since I don't have the New World ROMs.


So I created the Boot and Root floppies, which work just fine.  Since 
this will be a dual boot system, I have a couple of Mac partitions, 
too - one is the main 6 GB HFS+, and then another CD-sized partition 
formatted HFS so both OS's can see it.  I've loaded the Potato 
Binaries Disk 1 onto it.  The remaining space (around 5.5 GB) is 
devoted to Linux (100 MB /, 128 MB swap, 200 MB /home, and the 
remainder /usr).


And off we go.  I have the partitions formatted and mounted, 
including the HFS partition with the Debian Binaries 1 disk. 
Everything goes fine until section 7.9 of the docs where I have to 
point to the install files.


I can't find them.

I checked out the file paths in the docs, and made allowances for the 
fact that the LSL CD has different directories than the docs list. 
But no matter what I type in this step, when I hit "OK" the cursor 
pops back up the the line where I specify the file path.  And what's 
with the second field on the screen with the <> in it?  I don't 
find it mentioned in the documentation.


So that's where I sit.  There's probably some simple way out of this, 
but I'm not seeing it from the documentation.  I happily accept any 
suggestions.


Thanks,

Chris

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Re: [Q] XFree86 4.0 config for Powerstack?

[Olaf Hering]

On Mon, Sep 18, Tom Rini wrote:

> On Mon, Sep 18, 2000 at 06:16:17PM +0200, Michel Dänzer wrote:
> 
> > The matrox driver OTOH is well accelerated, even on top of the framebuffer
> > device. There may be some endianness etc. bugs though.
> 
> This is just my current understanding, but w/o patches X4 & matrox aren't 
> happy
> on PPC, but the patches are on penguinppc.org someplace.  And, depending on 
> the
> cirrus card, XF4 from ani should work (he said my powerstack series E should
> work but I've been too busy to try it lately, i'll let everyone know tho).

The whole patch against vanilla 4.01 is at:
http://penguinppc.org/~olaf/401-401ppc.dif.gz
291kb.

contains keymaps and mga patchtes + Ani Joshis stuff for the rest.



Gruss Olaf

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Re: G4: Potato: fbdrv. Need more mouse buttons.

[Michael Schmitz]

> I'm in an "almost there" state with a new G4 which will be the
> first of a cluster in use at our new music technolgy lab here at
> the University of Glasgow.  I've read my way through the mail list
> archive, and tried pretty well everything, but can't get the 2 and
> 3 button mouse emulation to work.

Cut straight through the mess and use BenH's 2.2.17pre20 or later kernels
which have the new input device code. /dev/input/mice returns all mouse
events including button emulation keycodes, on both ADB and USB keyboards
(adb_buttons emulation used to work on ADB only so far). See instructions
on setting up the /dev/input files on BenH's site (ppclinux.apple.com??). 

Michael

Re: [Q] XFree86 4.0 config for Powerstack?

[Tom Rini]

On Mon, Sep 18, 2000 at 06:16:17PM +0200, Michel Dänzer wrote:

> The matrox driver OTOH is well accelerated, even on top of the framebuffer
> device. There may be some endianness etc. bugs though.

This is just my current understanding, but w/o patches X4 & matrox aren't happy
on PPC, but the patches are on penguinppc.org someplace.  And, depending on the
cirrus card, XF4 from ani should work (he said my powerstack series E should
work but I've been too busy to try it lately, i'll let everyone know tho).

-- 
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G4: Potato: fbdrv. Need more mouse buttons.

[Nick Bailey]

I'm in an "almost there" state with a new G4 which will be the
first of a cluster in use at our new music technolgy lab here at
the University of Glasgow.  I've read my way through the mail list
archive, and tried pretty well everything, but can't get the 2 and
3 button mouse emulation to work.

Here's what I've done so far.

GPM is running with a "-R" and xfree 3's frame-buffer server picks
up mouse movements and button-1 activity fine.  The mouse is a USB
mouse with an intellimouse (or whatever it's called) protocol
attached to the same USB port as the keyboard.  This setup worked
pretty well straight away and I went on to getting the
multi-button emulation sorted out.

I can't get /any/ of the methods described to work.  I am using
Xkbd translation (the no Xkbd translation line is commented out in
the XF86Config file).  I followed the instructions at
http://people.a2000.nl/omoerbe/  to try and get things to work as
far as I could, but this involves getting hold of a file from
ftp://idd-01.imbc.gr/pub/macintosh_xkb.tar.gz  which is no longer
there.  That said, I couldn't see anything which would stop all
the mods suggested on that web page from working.

The interesting thing is that I thought mapping a key using
xmodmap should work.  For example,

xmodmap -e 'keysym KP_0 = n' makes the n character appear when you
type keypad-0, but
xmodmap -e 'keysym KP_0 = Pointer_Button2", whilst producing no
errors, gives no dice as an mouse-button replacement. (sorry if
I've slightly misspelled some of that command: the mac is at the
other end of the office from this aged intel box)

I've tried lots of other things (append= in yaboot.conf, messing
around as per aforementioned web page, etc, etc) but nothing
works.  I'm also running gnome and enlightenment, both of which
whirr, bump and fizzle along beautifully.  Apart from the
mouse-button problem.

Is there a fix for this, or is it time to buy loads of
three-button USB mice (which are bound to cause problems with the
Apple side of things: these machines are going to have to be dual
boot).

I need to get them working by Wednesday, when Linux will be on
demonstration to the Great British Public as an open-day event.

No pressure 8-)

Nick/

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Re: [Q] XFree86 4.0 config for Powerstack?

[Michel Dänzer]

Jonathan Belson wrote:
> 
> >Jonathan Belson wrote:
> 
> >> BTW, does the Matrox driver work under PowerPC?  I have a spare
> >> Matrox Millenium sitting in my server, which doesn't even have
> >> a monitor attached...
> >
> >If matroxfb works, I think chances are high that the matrox driver works
> >too, with Option "UseFBDev".
> 
> Next dumb question - if I use the frame buffer device, will it use
> hardare acceleration?  I've used unaccelerated X servers before and
> the experience was pretty painful.

First off, X 4 should be faster even without acceleration thanks to the
ShadowFB layer.

The fbdev driver can't provide acceleration as it's just a generic driver for
framebuffer devices.

The matrox driver OTOH is well accelerated, even on top of the framebuffer
device. There may be some endianness etc. bugs though.


Michel


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Re: [Q] XFree86 4.0 config for Powerstack?

[Jonathan Belson]

>Jonathan Belson wrote:

>> BTW, does the Matrox driver work under PowerPC?  I have a spare
>> Matrox Millenium sitting in my server, which doesn't even have
>> a monitor attached...
>
>If matroxfb works, I think chances are high that the matrox driver works too,
>with Option "UseFBDev".

Next dumb question - if I use the frame buffer device, will it use
hardare acceleration?  I've used unaccelerated X servers before and
the experience was pretty painful.


--
C-YA
Jon

Re: [Q] XFree86 4.0 config for Powerstack?

[Michel Dänzer]

Jonathan Belson wrote:
> 
> >Jonathan Belson wrote:
> 
> >I don't think the cirrus driver works on PPC, so you'll have to use the
> >fbdev driver (if you have a framebuffer device at all?). Look at
> >
> >http://n.ethz.ch/student/daenzerm/download/XFree86/XF86Config
> 
> Thanks - I'll give it another go.
> 
> BTW, does the Matrox driver work under PowerPC?  I have a spare
> Matrox Millenium sitting in my server, which doesn't even have
> a monitor attached...

If matroxfb works, I think chances are high that the matrox driver works too,
with Option "UseFBDev".


Michel


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Debian GNU/Linux (powerpc,i386) user \   member of XFree86 and the DRI project

Re: [Q] XFree86 4.0 config for Powerstack?

[Jonathan Belson]

>Jonathan Belson wrote:

>I don't think the cirrus driver works on PPC, so you'll have to use the fbdev
>driver (if you have a framebuffer device at all?). Look at
>
>http://n.ethz.ch/student/daenzerm/download/XFree86/XF86Config

Thanks - I'll give it another go.

BTW, does the Matrox driver work under PowerPC?  I have a spare
Matrox Millenium sitting in my server, which doesn't even have
a monitor attached...


--
C-YA
Jon

Re: [Q] XFree86 4.0 config for Powerstack?

[Michel Dänzer]

Jonathan Belson wrote:

> Has any kind soul got a working XFree86 4.0 config for
> PReP Powerstacks (Blackhawk, Cirrus Logic graphics)
> they could send me?
> 
> I'm running the unofficial .debs from the 'X Strike
> Force' page, and it doesn't seem to impressed by my
> attempts to configure it so far 8^/

I don't think the cirrus driver works on PPC, so you'll have to use the fbdev
driver (if you have a framebuffer device at all?). Look at

http://n.ethz.ch/student/daenzerm/download/XFree86/XF86Config


Michel


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Re: 3dfx Voodoo 3 and XFree on debian/powerpc

[Frederic Seraphine]

> Please try XFree86 4.0.1 - look at http://samosa.debian.org/~branden/woody/ .

As a matter of fact I tried a 4.0 released with the modification brought 
bye the guys at linuxppc.org. It did run the control driver (but with bugs) 
and failed to run the tdfx driver.

But I'll give a try to the phase 2 XFree 4.0.1 debs this week.

> 
> I'm not sure if the tdfx driver will work (use Option "UseFBDev" at least),
> but the fbdev driver should be faster on the control hardware.

Thanks for the insight.
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Re: 3dfx Voodoo 3 and XFree on debian/powerpc

[Michel Dänzer]

Frederic Seraphine wrote:

> I've been running Debian/powerpc on my powermac 7600/132 since nearly 6
> months and it works great. I run xfree framebuffer server over the
> motherboard control video chip and it runs a bit slowly.
> 
> Since I've bought a pci voodoo 3 2000 card, and 3dfx provides driver and
> eprom for the macintosh macos.
> 
> Is there a way to make it work under debian/ppc and xfree ? It seems to
> work properly under console already.
> 
> I'm a bit puzzled here, since it should use xsrver-svga (which is not
> packaged for powerpc architectures). So any one could give me clue here ?

Please try XFree86 4.0.1 - look at http://samosa.debian.org/~branden/woody/ .

I'm not sure if the tdfx driver will work (use Option "UseFBDev" at least),
but the fbdev driver should be faster on the control hardware.


Michel


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