Continued Keyboard probs with new input layer

2001-08-13 Thread Jason E. Stewart
Hey All,

Ever since I switched over to the new input layer I've had a really
annoying problem with my keyboard modifier keys. If I hold a modifier
key down for more than 5 secs without hitting another key, I get a
spurious key-up event, so that even though I'm still holding the key
down, whatever application I'm using doesn't know it. It seems to
affect all modifier keys (alt, control, shift)

This is a real pain with Emacs.

I know that Michel said he too had experienced this, but does anyone
have an idea *why* it's happening, or how to fix it?

jas.



iBook2: mostly working

2001-08-13 Thread Mr. Stuart Lamble
(Sounds like a Douglas Adams novel of some sort, doesn't it?
*ducks* Anyway.)

I recently (two-three days ago) purchased a brand-spanking
new Apple iBook (the new model, that is, not the original.)
I have installed Linux upon it, and so far, things are going
reasonably well. There are a few little niggly things,
though, and I'm kinda hoping to get a bit of advice from
anybody out there who's a bit more clued than I am at the
moment. (my Linux experience is mostly x86, rather than
Mac.)

Background: installing from the potato CDs (oh, ok, just the
first potato CD), then upgrading over the Internet. (Having
access to a fast 'Net connection at work is *nice* :)

  * Keyboard: When X boots up (see below), it works nicely.
If it doesn't, though (or if I switch to a text
console), it doesn't map the keys correctly. I know that
this has something to do with CONFIG_MAC_ADBKEYCODES,
but I can't remember the details off the top of my head.
I'm pretty sure that the kernel I'm currently using has
this parameter unset.  IIRC, the first time around, when
I upgraded I was asked if I wanted to change the
console's expectation of this setting, said yes, and
promptly cursed myself, because I couldn't type anything
(call me stupid :) The second time around, I didn't --
but now that I'm ready to make the switch, I can't
figure out how.
  * X: I have a USB keyboard and USB mouse. Sometimes, X
recognises (and accepts input from) the USB keyboard;
other times, it insists upon the laptop's own keyboard.
I'd really like to be able to use both at once (so if
one's missing, I can use the other without fiddling with
the config file -- eg, when I'm on the run.) The
trackpad is working, but it is *extremely* sensitive.
I'd also like to get the USB mouse working, so I can use
a mouse with more than one button (as Ghod intended :)
  * Booting: yaboot doesn't seem to like the configuration;
it can't find the kernel. If I type in the full path
(hd:14,/boot/vmlinux-2.4.5), it's happy.

Kernel version: 2.4.5. Otherwise, it's pretty much bleeding
edge Debian packages (I have this tendency to ignore the
Debian kernel package; this dates back to when I first
started using Debian.)

The only remaining wishlist (apart from the above, which are
purely configuration issues) is sound. Ah, well, I can
wait.. but it's no fun playing Railroad Tycoon without the
sounds... *sobs* :)

Many, many thanks in advance.

Config files attached (most comments stripped out):

 yaboot.conf 
boot=/dev/hda12
default=linux
device=hd:
delay=10
timeout=20
install=/usr/lib/yaboot/yaboot
magicboot=/usr/lib/yaboot/ofboot
partition=14

nonvram

image=/vmlinux
label=Linux-old
partition=14
root=/dev/hda14
append=video=ofonly
read-only

image=/boot/vmlinux-2.4.5
label=Linux
partition=14
root=/dev/hda14
append=video=ofonly
read-only

 XF86Config-4 
Section Module

Loaddbe

SubSection  extmod
  Optionomit xfree86-dga
EndSubSection

Loadtype1
Loadfreetype
EndSection

Section Files

RgbPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb
FontPath   /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/
FontPath   /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled
FontPath   /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled
FontPath   /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/
FontPath   /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/
FontPath   /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/
FontPath   /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/

EndSection

Section ServerFlags

EndSection

Section InputDevice

Identifier  Keyboard1
Driver  Keyboard

Option AutoRepeat 500 30
Option XkbRules   xfree86
Option XkbModel   pc101
Option XkbLayout  us

EndSection

Section InputDevice
Identifier  trackpad
Driver  mouse
Option ProtocolPS/2
Option Device  /dev/input/mouse0
Option Emulate3Buttons
EndSection

# If this is uncommented, even if I leave SendCoreEvents commented
# out, the X server barfs.
#Section InputDevice
#Identifier USBMouse
#Driver mouse
#Option ProtocolPS/2
#Option Device  /dev/input/mouse1
#Option SendCoreEvents true
#EndSection

Section Monitor

Identifier  iBook LCD

HorizSync   31.5 - 48.5 # NB: Guessing, and keeping the figures
# conservative for now. Anybody got the correct specs?
VertRefresh 50-70

EndSection

Section Device
Identifier  Standard VGA
VendorName  Unknown
BoardName   Unknown

Driver vga
EndSection

Section Device
Identifier  iBook built in video
Driver  ati
Option UseFBDev true
EndSection

Section Screen
Identifier  Screen 1
Device  iBook built in video
Monitor iBook LCD
DefaultDepth 24

Subsection Display
Depth   8
Modes   1024x768 800x600 640x480
ViewPort0 0
EndSubsection
Subsection 

Re: Choosing which kernel tree to use

2001-08-13 Thread Derrik Pates
On Sat, 11 Aug 2001, Michel Dänzer wrote:

 Just comment out the bogus code in /etc/power/pwrctl if your kernel supports
 sleep.

That did work, the iBook sleeps and wakes up fine. Thee only problem is
the DACA audio controller now produces crap audio (like the audio is
byteswapped) anytime any audio is played - including the system beep after
waking up. Unloadiing and reloading the driver doesn't improve the
situation either - the only way to cure it then is to reboot.

I know the support for the DACA is far from complete, but I thought it
bore mentioning. Has anyone considered figuring out how to program the
KeyLargo's I2C bus, and then using the Darwin drivers as a model (is that
possible? License restrictions?) for the Linux drivers, instead of trying
to program the DACA directly like the current drivers do?

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Re: New: installation on g4

2001-08-13 Thread Olaf Hering
On Sun, Aug 12, Ehtan Benson wrote:

 netbooting depends on OpenFirmware being sane.  that is not true of
 any OldWorld machine.

What problems do you see?


Gruss Olaf

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*mostly solved* Re: X4.0.3 and (german) keyboard problems on PM 7600/132

2001-08-13 Thread Manuel Reiter
Hi again,

 - I have X 4.0.3 up and running on the onboard video hardware (2MB of
   video RAM) using the framebuffer device. However, everything has a
   magenta hue, regardless of resolution. I include XF86Config-4 and
   xdm.log and would be grateful for any help.

X seems to be fine in 24 and 15 bpp. I thought I'd tried that before, but
X seems to ignore the -bpp option on startup and only adjusts the color
depth if it's in the XF86Config file. 

I'd still be interested to know why 16 bpp doesn't work, but 15 bpp at
1152x864 is fine for me.

 - My german Apple Extended ADB keyboard is working on console and in X. 
   However, the keys '' and '^' seem to be swapped and, more importantly,
   I have no way to type an '@' or the pipe character ('|'). I can't even
   begin to tell you how handicapped I feel on the console without my
   trusty pipe ;) Any help would be greatly appreciated.

I have solved the keyswaps following Stefan's suggestions but have still
no luck with the 'pipe' and 'at' characters in X. 

 - While my one-button ADB mouse is working in X, three-button emulation is
   either not or I haven't figured it out. I tried the obvious approaches
   (all of Ctrl, Alt, Cmd, the F-keys) but to na avail. Again, thanks in
   advance for any light shed on this.

I have fixed these, again thanks to Stefan, by putting

  echo 1  /proc/sys/dev/mac_hid/mouse_button_emulation
  echo 100  /proc/sys/dev/mac_hid/mouse_button2_keycode
  echo 97  /proc/sys/dev/mac_hid/mouse_button3_keycode

into /etc/init.d/gpm , and now have the middle button on 'alt gr' and the
right button on the right 'ctrl' key.

Any help with the two missing characters would still be very much
appreciated.

Greetings,

  Manuel




Re: *mostly solved* Re: X4.0.3 and (german) keyboard problems on PM7600/132

2001-08-13 Thread Michel Dänzer
Manuel Reiter wrote:

  - I have X 4.0.3 up and running on the onboard video hardware (2MB of
video RAM) using the framebuffer device. However, everything has a
magenta hue, regardless of resolution. I include XF86Config-4 and
xdm.log and would be grateful for any help.
 
 X seems to be fine in 24 and 15 bpp. I thought I'd tried that before, but
 X seems to ignore the -bpp option on startup and only adjusts the color
 depth if it's in the XF86Config file.

Try -depth instead. Depth 15 is also 16 bpp in X terminology.

 I'd still be interested to know why 16 bpp doesn't work, but 15 bpp at
 1152x864 is fine for me.

Depth 16 is broken because the framebuffer device is broken.


  - My german Apple Extended ADB keyboard is working on console and in X.
However, the keys '' and '^' seem to be swapped and, more importantly,
I have no way to type an '@' or the pipe character ('|'). I can't even
begin to tell you how handicapped I feel on the console without my
trusty pipe ;) Any help would be greatly appreciated.
 
 I have solved the keyswaps following Stefan's suggestions but have still
 no luck with the 'pipe' and 'at' characters in X.

The best solution would probably be to switch to Linux keycodes and use
XkbModel macintosh (may only work with XFree86 4.1.0).


  - While my one-button ADB mouse is working in X, three-button emulation is
either not or I haven't figured it out. I tried the obvious approaches
(all of Ctrl, Alt, Cmd, the F-keys) but to na avail. Again, thanks in
advance for any light shed on this.
 
 I have fixed these, again thanks to Stefan, by putting
 
   echo 1  /proc/sys/dev/mac_hid/mouse_button_emulation
   echo 100  /proc/sys/dev/mac_hid/mouse_button2_keycode
   echo 97  /proc/sys/dev/mac_hid/mouse_button3_keycode
 
 into /etc/init.d/gpm , and now have the middle button on 'alt gr' and the
 right button on the right 'ctrl' key.

/etc/init.d/gpm isn't the best place for this, see sysctl.conf(5).


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Re: problems compiling evolution (again)...

2001-08-13 Thread Michel Dänzer
Phil Fraering wrote:
 
 Well, I'm having some minor problems trying to compile evolution.
 
 First, it said that bonobo-conf and some related packages, along
 with gtkhtml and related packages, were needed to compile evolution.
 
 I was able to compile bonobo-conf, but only after getting some
 packages that _weren't in the build dependencies_, like
 docbooks-to-man.

Please submit a bug with severity important or even serious about this. It
keeps the package from being autobuilt.


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Re: *mostly solved* Re: X4.0.3 and (german) keyboard problems on PM7600/132

2001-08-13 Thread Manuel Reiter
Hallo Michael,

danke fuer die prompte Antwort :)

  I'd still be interested to know why 16 bpp doesn't work, but 15 bpp at
  1152x864 is fine for me.
 
 Depth 16 is broken because the framebuffer device is broken.

I see.

 The best solution would probably be to switch to Linux keycodes and use
 XkbModel macintosh (may only work with XFree86 4.1.0).

How would I do this? At the moment, the keyboard section of my
XF86Config-4 looks like this:

-- snip

Section InputDevice
Identifier  Generic Keyboard
Driver  keyboard
Option  CoreKeyboard
Option  XkbRules  macintosh
Option  XkbModel  pc104
Option  XkbLayout macintosh/de
EndSection

-- snip

Just changing XkbModel to macintosh doesn't seem to do the trick. I'd
really rather not upgrade X at the moment.

 /etc/init.d/gpm isn't the best place for this, see sysctl.conf(5).

I'll look into this, thanks. I just wanted it somewhere quick and
/etc/init.d/gpm was the first place that came to mind.

Best regards,

  Manuel



Re: *mostly solved* Re: X4.0.3 and (german) keyboard problems on PM7600/132

2001-08-13 Thread Michel Dänzer
Manuel Reiter wrote:

  The best solution would probably be to switch to Linux keycodes and use
  XkbModel macintosh (may only work with XFree86 4.1.0).
 
 How would I do this? At the moment, the keyboard section of my
 XF86Config-4 looks like this:
 
 -- snip
 
 Section InputDevice
 Identifier  Generic Keyboard
 Driver  keyboard
 Option  CoreKeyboard
 Option  XkbRules  macintosh
 Option  XkbModel  pc104
 Option  XkbLayout macintosh/de
 EndSection
 
 -- snip
 
 Just changing XkbModel to macintosh doesn't seem to do the trick. I'd
 really rather not upgrade X at the moment.

Is Xkb enabled at all? (Check the log) I wonder if macintosh/de is a valid
XkbLayout.


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Re: *mostly solved* Re: X4.0.3 and (german) keyboard problems on PM 7600/132

2001-08-13 Thread Stefan Heimann
On Mon, Aug 13, 2001 at 10:45:40AM +0200, Manuel Reiter wrote:
 
  - My german Apple Extended ADB keyboard is working on console and in X. 
However, the keys '' and '^' seem to be swapped and, more importantly,
I have no way to type an '@' or the pipe character ('|'). I can't even
begin to tell you how handicapped I feel on the console without my
trusty pipe ;) Any help would be greatly appreciated.
 
 I have solved the keyswaps following Stefan's suggestions but have still
 no luck with the 'pipe' and 'at' characters in X. 

Ok, seems you have some problems with you modifier keys. I'm not an
expert, but I have found something in my Xmodmap you can try:


keycode 131 = Shift_R
keycode 132 = Alt_R
keycode 133 = Control_R

clear Shift
clear Lock
clear Control
clear Mod1
clear Mod2

add Shift = Shift_L
add Lock = Caps_Lock
add Control = Control_L
add Mod1 = Mode_switch 
add Mod2 = Meta_L


Bye Stefan



Re: *mostly solved* Re: X4.0.3 and (german) keyboard problems on PM7600/132

2001-08-13 Thread Manuel Reiter
Hi again,

  Section InputDevice
  Identifier  Generic Keyboard
  Driver  keyboard
  Option  CoreKeyboard
  Option  XkbRules  macintosh
  Option  XkbModel  pc104
  Option  XkbLayout macintosh/de
  EndSection
  
  -- snip
  
  Just changing XkbModel to macintosh doesn't seem to do the trick. I'd
  really rather not upgrade X at the moment.
 
 Is Xkb enabled at all? (Check the log) I wonder if macintosh/de is a valid
 XkbLayout.

I don't know. 'grep -i xkb /var/log/xdm.log' gives me

(**) XKB: rules: macintosh
(**) XKB: model: macintosh
(**) XKB: layout: de
Couldn't load XKB keymap, falling back to pre-XKB keymap

As you can see, I changed layout to de, without any effect. 'xev'
gives me

KeyPress event, serial 22, synthetic NO, window 0x41,
root 0x27, subw 0x0, time 1270627705, (-792,98), root:(6,120),
state 0x0, keycode 66 (keysym 0xffea, Alt_R), same_screen YES,
XLookupString gives 0 characters:  
 
KeyPress event, serial 27, synthetic NO, window 0x41,
root 0x27, subw 0x0, time 1270628938, (-792,98), root:(6,120),
state 0x0, keycode 63 (keysym 0xffe9, Alt_L), same_screen YES,
XLookupString gives 0 characters:  
 
(KeyRelease events snipped)

when I press the left alt key and the left command key in
sequence. This, disappointingly, looks good to me.

Do you have any good source for reading up on XKB? At the moment, I'm
rather in the I'm-tired-and-want-it-to-just-work-without-bother phase, but
this certainly will pass ;) Anyway, I can't imagine I'm the only one with
this setup, so I think a solution *should* already exist somewhere out
there, if I could only find it.

Thanks and greetings,

  Manuel



Re: iBook2: mostly working

2001-08-13 Thread Ethan Benson
On Mon, Aug 13, 2001 at 04:17:59PM +1000, Mr. Stuart Lamble wrote:
   * Booting: yaboot doesn't seem to like the configuration;
 it can't find the kernel. If I type in the full path
 (hd:14,/boot/vmlinux-2.4.5), it's happy.

sounds like you didn't set --partition when you ran mkofboot.  man
yaboot.conf and yet another reason not to use potato's boot-floppies,
woody boot-floppies have a `Make System Bootable' step that works with
100% sucess on newworld macs.  

  yaboot.conf 
 boot=/dev/hda12
 default=linux
 device=hd:
 delay=10
 timeout=20
 install=/usr/lib/yaboot/yaboot
 magicboot=/usr/lib/yaboot/ofboot
 partition=14
 
 nonvram
 
 image=/vmlinux

does this exist? if its a symlink is it valid? 

 label=Linux-old
 partition=14

this partition= line is redundant, you already set it globally.
remove it.  

 root=/dev/hda14
 append=video=ofonly
 read-only
 
 image=/boot/vmlinux-2.4.5
 label=Linux
 partition=14

this partition= line is redundant, you already set it globally.
remove it. 

 root=/dev/hda14
 append=video=ofonly
 read-only

this should work so long as your /boot is not a separate partition,
thats the only thing that would break this.  you have rerun ybin after
editing /etc/yaboot.conf right?

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Re: *mostly solved* Re: X4.0.3 and (german) keyboard problems on PM7600/132

2001-08-13 Thread Branden Robinson
On Mon, Aug 13, 2001 at 01:47:54PM +0200, Manuel Reiter wrote:
 Couldn't load XKB keymap, falling back to pre-XKB keymap

This message means:

I'm throwing all out your XKB configuration and falling back to
whatever the kernel tells me the keymap is.

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Debian on new ibook dual USB: Net Install

2001-08-13 Thread Matthias Geiser
[I posted this to debian-laptop a week ago, but got no reply. I hope you can
help me.]

Hi,

Saturday I tried to install Debian on my friend's brand new ibook.
I am experienced with debian on i368, but don't know about macs. Also,
I don't have any Debian CDs of the PPC build, so I tried a net install.
This all worked smoothly on a iMac. But I had some problems on the
new iBook dual USB:

I booted the installation system that I downloaded from sourgeforge [1]
using yaboot, everyting went fine, till I tried to install the rest of
the system over the net. It claimed

Unknown PHY ID (forgot the number).

It seems, debian does not recognise the ethernet adapter of the ibook. Is
there a updated installation system? Do you have any other ideas,
how to install debian on a new iBook?


Thanks in advance, 

Matthias

[1] http://sourceforge.net/projects/debian-imac/
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iBook (firewire) backlight

2001-08-13 Thread Kin Chung

Machine: iBook 366 FW
Kernel:  linux 2.4.4-pre4 (benh)
glibc:   2.1.3-17 with 2.4.4-pre4 headers*

I am having trouble getting Debian to control the backlight.
The backlight program (both the potato distribution and the
pmud 7.2 version) does nothing, and neither does fblevel.
It does not seem to matter if I have pmud installed or not.
Am I missing something or do I need to use a more recent
kernel?

I would prefer not using a more recent kernel as that would
likely require rebuilding glibc with new headers.

Cheers,

Kin Hoong

*Actually necessary since I wanted pppd to work---new kernel ppp
modules had headers which did not correspond to the old headers :-(.

PS.  With luck, rotmail will not htmlise this.

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Re: New: installation on g4

2001-08-13 Thread Olaf Hering
On Mon, Aug 13, Ehtan Benson wrote:

 On Mon, Aug 13, 2001 at 09:36:16AM +0200, Olaf Hering wrote:
  On Sun, Aug 12, Ehtan Benson wrote:
  
   netbooting depends on OpenFirmware being sane.  that is not true of
   any OldWorld machine.
  
  What problems do you see?
 
 with OldWorld OpenFirmware? 
 
 where have you been...

Well, I was able to netboot all my machines so far. 7200, 7500, beige G3
and Wallstreet. It needs a proper bootp server, dhcpd is broken because
it doesnt set the ARP cache. It seems that my 7200 requires the System
Disk control panel, run it at least once...



Gruss Olaf

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BUGS
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curious about java servlets

2001-08-13 Thread Bill Lovett
Hi! I'd like to introduce the Apache server on my mild mannered PowerMac 8500 
to the wild and crazy ways of jsp. I'm learning as I go, but I'm missing a 
couple pieces of the big picture. From a thread on this list last month, I know 
to get the JDK/JRE tarball from Blackdown since a deb is not available. That's 
great, but now what? For example, when try to apt-get gnujsp, I get:

gnujsp: Depends: jserv (= 1.102) but it is not installable

Can anyone shed some light on why jserv isn't available, or recommend any next 
steps?

Thanks in advance,
Bill Lovett



Re: curious about java servlets

2001-08-13 Thread David N. Welton
Bill Lovett [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Can anyone shed some light on why jserv isn't available, or
 recommend any next steps?

Write once, run anywhere is hampered by crappy proprietary licensing
from Sun.  You might have better luck with a %100 open source
solution.

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 Personal: http://www.efn.org/~davidw/



Woody, security and architectures

2001-08-13 Thread Wichert Akkerman

As people have probably noticed we've done a number of security
advisories over the last few days, and doing those has made it
clear that the way we currently do those will not scale with
future release.

The problem is the number of architectures we have to support.
For potato we have to recompile on 4 architectures, which is
a hassle but doable. Besides having to wait for recompiles to
finish we also frequently run into missing build-depends and
have to wait for someone from DSA to install those for us,
which means it might (worst case) take days before we have all
the needed packages.

With the extra architectures that woody will add that is simply
not going to work anymore. Now it so happens there is an excellent
solution for this: rbuilder. With rbuilder one can simply send
an email to a build machine and it will install the build-depends
and build the package automatically. This means we can spent
our time a lot more effectively.

This brings me to my point: with the release of woody the security
team can no longer handle doing all the recompiles manually, and
as a result of that we will only support architectures which have a
working rbuilder setup that we can use.

I realize that setting up rbuilder is not trivial, but given that
woody won't be released soon there should be plenty of time for
people to set those up.

Wichert.

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Re: curious about java servlets

2001-08-13 Thread Matt Brubeck
On Mon, 13 Aug 2001, Bill Lovett wrote:

 when try to apt-get gnujsp, I get:

 gnujsp: Depends: jserv (= 1.102) but it is not installable

It looks like jserv hasn't been build for powerpc. Voltaire is down right
now, but when it's back you can find out why jserv is missing at:

 http://voltaire.debian.org/buildd/buildlogs/jserv

By the way, that dependency should be on jserv (= 1.1-2), not (= 1.102).
Hopefully that was just a typo; otherwise something is really wrong.



Re: curious about java servlets

2001-08-13 Thread Wilhelm *Rafial* Fitzpatrick

Bill Lovett [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


 Can anyone shed some light on why jserv isn't available, or

  recommend any next steps?


I'm happily developing JSPs and servlets on my TiBook under Debian. 
As you have already figured out, you have to install the Blackdown 
JDK by hand.  In order to run and test servlets  JSPs, you need a 
servlet container as well.  Tomcat is the open source servlet 
contain from the Apache Jakarta project that was derived from Sun's 
original reference code, and while it is not perfect, for development 
purposes it works very well.  Again, it'll be something you have to 
install by hand, but it is not difficult:


http://jakarta.apache.org/tomcat/
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ibook: Problem with booting

2001-08-13 Thread Thorsten Nicklaus
Hi,
I try to install Linux Debian on the new ibook. After some help and
problems my debian was on the ibook. I wanted the new kernel and
installed it. It's Ben's new 2.4. 
After the reboot yaboot say it was the wrong kernel.I try to boot from
cd (potato). After the booting the install startet. I cancel it and 
try to reinstall the old kernel from the harddisk. I called the new 
ybin from woody. He said can't found printf! But I reboot. There is the
error I think.

The reboot fail. He can't find the kernel. After this I can't boot from
cd. The error message was:

ok
copying OF device tree...done
Calling quiesce ...

DO-QUISCE finishedbooting...
-


That's all. MacOS 9 and MacOS X are okay. Linux not. :-( Has anybody a Idea??

bye
Thorsten



Re: Compiling EIDE patch on PPC

2001-08-13 Thread Mike Fedyk
On Sat, Aug 11, 2001 at 08:47:04AM +0200, Michel Lanners wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 On  10 Aug, this message from Mike Fedyk echoed through cyberspace:
  OK, I've been able to compile it successfully.  Changes included.
 
 Good.
 
  I haven't booted the kernel yet.  Can someone take a look at the patch to
  see if I may have made any bad changes?
 
 Well, if it compiles and works like that, than it should be OK. You only
 changed #include's, after all...
 
  Maybe the actual files in asm-ppc should be changed instead?
 
 Which ones are you refering to? You only changed .c files; no header
 files. Under asm-ppc, there are only header files.


Someone mentioned that the ppc headers were missing some definitions that
are in i386.  I'm referring to copying those changes instead of changing the
includes... I just wanted to mention it, in case it affects something I
don't know about.

  If it is good, I'll send it to Hedrick for the
  next patch release.
 
 Looks good to me. THough I am a bit surprised by you being able to
 remove asm/ide.h from generic IDE driver files...
 

asm/ide.h is included from linux/ide.h, and IIRC gcc doesn't care how far
away the code is included... as long as it gets what it needs.  Probably
just including everything before parsing...

  Also, there is an include for asm/ide.h in apus_setup.c.  I didn't change it
  because I don't have any prep machines for testing, and for some reason it 
  is
  also including from the m86k arch.
 
 APUS is not PREP, its some Amiga stuff. Basically, originally 68k-Amigas
 upgraded with PPC processors; so no wonder they're a hybrid of m68k and
 ppc ;-). I would _guess_ they need the asm/ide.h replaced by
 linux/ide.h too.


Oops, brain fart.  Did any of those APUS have PCI?  If not, then the change
may not be needed.

  Michel, I'm going to do another compile with your pci-fixup patch.  Do you
  have any idea if it is needed on 7200, 6500, or oldworld g3 powermacs also?
 
 I never tested it there; but since the problem (for your IDE card) is
 with access to PCI IO ports, _any_ ppc 2.2 kernel would suffer from that
 problem, independant of the precise hardware.
 

Michel, your pci-fixup patch is incompatible with Donald Becker's rtl8139.c
(from his site) driver with the new pci-scan.c module from his web site.  I
thought I'd let you know. 

When I insert the module, I get an oops.  On these machines (PPC mac 7200,
6500,  oldworld g3) I have had to use his new drivers to get reliable
ethernet access.  The ones in Linus' kernel haven't been reliable for me.

Is there any chance that your pci patch would fix any problems I've been
having with the eth drivers in the kernel.org kernel?

What behavior could I expect from the system if I used the ide patch without
the PCI-fixup patch on a promise udma66 card?

Mike



Re: Choosing which 2.4 kernel tree to use for OldWorld

2001-08-13 Thread Mike Fedyk
On Sat, Aug 11, 2001 at 09:25:29AM -0700, Jeffrey W. Baker wrote:
 I've never been quite clear on what kernel I should use.  There seem to be
 kernels on mvista.com, which I gues are considered the official powerpc
 kernel.  Then there are the benh kernels which I used to use but don't
 anymore because I no longer know where the definitive source can be found.
 
 What kernel is recommended for use on the tibook?  I've currently got
 2.4.7 from mvista, and the kerboard is hosed and the hardware clock
 doesn't work.
 

Let me ask this question also, but for oldworld machines, specifically,
7200, 6500, and oldworld g3.

Will kernel.org ppc 2.4 kernels be ok for these systems?  The systems I
would be running would mostly be headless routers, file  print servers, and 
such.

Mike



Re: evolution builds for powerpc?

2001-08-13 Thread Adam C Powell IV

Michel Dänzer wrote:


p.s.: I had one minor problem building the package, because building
evolution needs access to an XServer at some point (failed first with
Cannot open display...). But I don't think this is powerpc specific.



It would still be nice if you reported a bug against the offending package.

Indeed, AFAIK this prevents the package from being autobuilt at all, so 
it must be hand-built on all of the ten Woody platforms!  (Assuming the 
Potato six, HPPA, IA-64, mips and mipsel.  I don't remember, does Policy 
have something to say about this?)


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