Re: Trouble with XFree

2001-12-05 Thread Chris Tillman
On Tue, Dec 04, 2001 at 09:31:33PM -0800, Grant Bowman wrote:
 I used dpkg-reconfigure xfree86-common several times choosing
 different options but I couldn't get X to load.  I think it should work
 with even the simple setting of ati xserver and a 17 monitor.  Any
 suggestions on how to get around a no screens found error?  There's
 already a Section Screen in /etc/X11/XF86Config-4.  I've attached part
 of my /var/log/XFree.0.log file that I think is relevant.  If I should
 forward the whole thing, just let me know.
 
 Thanks,
 
 --
 -- Grant Bowman   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 

The attached XF86Config-4 works on my iMac. YMMV.

-- 
*--v-- Installing Debian GNU/Linux 3.0 For PowerPC -v*
|  http://mirrors.kernel.org/debian/dists/woody/main/disks- |
|  (pause for breath)powerpc/current/doc/install.en.html|
| debian-imac: http://debian-imac.sourceforge.net  |
|Chris Tillman[EMAIL PROTECTED]  |
| May the Source be with you |
**
# XF86Config-4 (XFree86 server configuration file) generated by Dexconf, the
# Debian X Configuration tool, using values from the debconf database.
#
# Edit this file with caution, and see the XF86Config manual page.
# (Type man XF86Config at the shell prompt.)

Section Files
#FontPath   unix/:7100# local font server
# if the local font server has problems, we can fall back on these
FontPath/usr/lib/X11/fonts/misc
#FontPath   /usr/lib/X11/fonts/cyrillic
#FontPath   /usr/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled
FontPath/usr/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled
FontPath/usr/lib/X11/fonts/Type1
FontPath/usr/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo
FontPath/usr/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi
FontPath/usr/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi
EndSection

Section ServerFlags
EndSection

Section Module
Loadddc
LoadGLcore
Loaddbe
Loaddri
Loadextmod
Loadglx
Loadpex5
Loadrecord
Loadxie
Loadbitmap
Loadfreetype
Loadspeedo
Loadtype1
Loadvbe
Loadint10
EndSection

Section InputDevice
Identifier  Generic Keyboard
Driver  keyboard
Option  CoreKeyboard
Option  XkbDisable
Option  XkbRules  xfree86
Option  XkbModel  macintosh
Option  XkbLayout us
EndSection

Section InputDevice
Identifier  Configured Mouse
Driver  mouse
Option  CorePointer
Option  Device/dev/input/mice
Option  Protocol  ImPS/2
Option  Emulate3Buttons   true
Option  ZAxisMapping  4 5
EndSection

Section Device
Identifier  Rage 128
Driver  ati
Option  UseFBDev  true
BusID 0:16:0
EndSection

Section Monitor
Identifier  iMac monitor
HorizSync   30-60
VertRefresh 50-75
Option  DPMS
EndSection

Section Screen
Identifier  Default Screen
Device  Rage 128
Monitor iMac monitor
DefaultDepth24
SubSection Display
Depth   8
Modes   1024x768
EndSubSection
SubSection Display
Depth   15
Modes   1024x768
EndSubSection
SubSection Display
Depth   16
Modes   800x600 1024x768
EndSubSection
SubSection Display
Depth   24
Modes   1024x768 800x600
EndSubSection
EndSection

Section ServerLayout
Identifier  Default Layout
Screen  Default Screen
InputDevice Generic Keyboard
InputDevice Configured Mouse
EndSection

Section DRI
Mode0666
EndSection

# end of XF86Config


Patches for laptop owners

2001-12-05 Thread Laurent de Segur

Hi,

Has anyone on this list any idea if patches to enhance usability for 
*book laptop users already exist ?


In particular, I am looking for the following  :

- An emacs friendly keyboard remapping where caps lock acts as the ctrl 
key (and LED stays off) and the right 'enter' key becomes 'alt' (this 
enter key is really useless.)


- A patch that would disable the track pad drag area for a short delay 
just after hitting the keyboard keys (variable but half a sec. would be 
nice to start with.) I find too many often while typing that the cursor 
jump around when the palm of my hand comes too close from the track pad.


These features would definitely boost my productivity by a big factor.
Thanks for your help in advance.

Laurent



Re: Patches for laptop owners

2001-12-05 Thread Branden Robinson
On Tue, Dec 04, 2001 at 10:38:20PM -0800, Laurent de Segur wrote:
 - An emacs friendly keyboard remapping where caps lock acts as the ctrl 
 key (and LED stays off) and the right 'enter' key becomes 'alt' (this 
 enter key is really useless.)

XkbOptions ctrl:nocaps

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Re: [Fwd: failed install : bf 3.0.17 ppc (powermac)]

2001-12-05 Thread Fabrice Lorrain \(home\)
Chris Tillman wrote:
 
...
 
  First try: using an USB floppy drive...
  Doesn't seem to be supported. Might be nice if it were
  written in the woody install manual.
 
 
 Nobody's tried it before, AFAIK. I'm not too surprised, those floppies
 don't work very well even with MacOS, they have very special drivers.
 I've added a note to the manual.

Thanks.

  2nd try: network boot
  hmmm, boot enet doesn't work, some google search + reading,
  works with boot enet:0 -- patch in install manual ?
 
 got that one too.

Idem

 
  It seems I didn't find the right image to load through
  tftp (dhcp + tftp + logs + tcpdump everything was find)
  but I keep getting a freeze in openboot during the tftp.
  What image am I suppose to use?
 
 linux from the powermac folder should be it

I'm pretty sure that's the one I used. I will give it another
try to night.

  3rd try: yaboot
  Last just because I though a had only hfs+ partitions.
  Did some reading in d-powerpc, and I didn't get a clear
  picture about yaboot booting over hfs+. Is it supported
  or not ?
 
 No, you can put your kernel on hfs+ but why would you want to... the
 kernel can't read it.

H, I think my mac partitions are hfs+ and yaboot works. Hence my
question.
I will check that tonight too.
 
...
  ... the G4 is frozen (no response from the keyboard, the cdrom
  stop). After some tests I gave a try with mem=512M and it works.
  Seems to be a kernel bug here, but it might be nice if the solution
  were documented.
 
 If you try it with append=video=ofonly instead of mem=512M does it
 work also?

No, it freeze all the same.


  seems ok, but at the end base-config keep telling me that one
  package failed to install. Retry -- no. Leaving base-config give
 
 you don't mention which package.
Yep, because nothing give me the information and dpkg -l shows all
the package correctly installed.

... 
 If someone shows interest you'll have to attach the whole log for it
 to make any sense.
I know. I will try another install tonight.  Expect some more feedback.

  Last remark, I didn't find fsck on the rescue disk. Any reason ?
 
 e2fsck is there.
My mistake, I though we had fsck on the i386 root floppy. I just checked
and it is not. e2fsck is find with me.

Thanks for your answers.

Fab



Re: Patches for laptop owners

2001-12-05 Thread Matt Brubeck
On Dec 4, Laurent de Segur wrote:

 - An emacs friendly keyboard remapping where caps lock acts as the ctrl
 key (and LED stays off) and the right 'enter' key becomes 'alt' (this
 enter key is really useless.)

This is a big problem on most (all?) Apple laptops, because they have ADB
keyboards whose caps-lock keys do not send keyup events.  This is a
limitation of the hardware.  If you search through the list archives you
can find some fairly kludgey kernel patches that provide partial
workarounds.

In any case, if you want to change your keyboard map it it quite simple
with xmodmap or xkb.  Read the man pages.



Re: [PATCH] Minor changes to control/imstt/platinum/valkyrie/atyfb

2001-12-05 Thread Martin Costabel
Tom Rini wrote:
 
 On Mon, Dec 03, 2001 at 02:16:04PM +0100, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote:
  On Sun, 2 Dec 2001, Martin Costabel wrote:
   Paul Mackerras wrote:
Martin Costabel writes:
[]
  So please try `cmode 1' instead of `cmode 16'.
 
 These bits of code are always different still I think.  Valkyriefb for
 example parses 'cmode:{8,15,16}' and does CMODE_8 or CMODE_16.  I
 _think_ the userland tools did both 0/1/2 and 8/15/16/32 (24?).

I'll be happy to let my 6400 play the guinea pig, but I have to excuse
him until next week; I'm not at home right now.

-- 
Martin



Dual booting OSX and Debian on G3 beige

2001-12-05 Thread Wayne Pascoe
Hi all,

This is a repost of a saga that I am currently looking for help on
uk.comp.os.linux. Apologies to anyone who has already seen this.

The machine in question is a beige G3 oldworld machine. I have OSX
installed and I then did this :

I downloaded the first 2 disks for woody and did an FTP base install
of that. Woody's installation appears to be more advanced that
potato's when it comes to quik.

It changed the boot-command and boot-device in my open firmware for
me. However, a reboot just got a message scrolling saying

can't OPEN:  can't OPEN: 

I now have the following in /etc/quik.conf
init-message=Debian GNU/Linux PowerPC (woody)
default=Linux
timeout=100
root=/dev/hda7

## Do not point image= to a symlink, quik can't follow symlinks
image=/boot/vmlinux-2.2.19-pmac
label=Linux
read-only

/boot/vmlinux-2.2.19-pmac does exist. 

Running quik produces the following warning :
Warning: prior partition (entry 6) is bootable

Rebooting the system with the boot-device and boot-command set to what
debian set them to at install time 
(boot-device /pci/mac-io/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/[EMAIL PROTECTED]:0, boot-command 
begin ['] boot catch 1000 ms cr again boot)

produces:
0 can't OPEN:
 ok
0

If anyone can help I would _much_ appreciate it. I can't help but feel
I'm close. I have both OS's on the machine, I just can't boot debian
:( If anyone knows of somewhere else I could ask this question, I
would appreciate that information as well!

TIA,

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Re: kernel: make config for ibook2

2001-12-05 Thread Michel Dänzer
On Wed, 2001-12-05 at 10:48, Chu Tan wrote:
 I have used make config and recompiled benh's kernel for my ibook 2.
 
 However, after booting up, the keyboard wasn't working. Does anyone knows
 the kernel options that are responsible for making the keyboard works?

Assuming you are running woody and/or sid, you most likely need to
disable CONFIG_MAC_ADBKEYCODES. As a workaround, you can pass
keyboard_sends_linux_keycodes=1 to the kernel.


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XFree86 and DRI project member   /  CS student, Free Software enthusiast



Re: Patches for laptop owners

2001-12-05 Thread Tuomas Kuosmanen
On Wed, 2001-12-05 at 11:44, Matt Brubeck wrote:

This is a big problem on most (all?) Apple laptops, because they have ADB
keyboards whose caps-lock keys do not send keyup events.  This is a
limitation of the hardware.  If you search through the list archives you
can find some fairly kludgey kernel patches that provide partial
workarounds.

In any case, if you want to change your keyboard map it it quite simple
with xmodmap or xkb.  Read the man pages.

Or you can stick in a regular PC USB keyboard, AFAIK. Though I like the
feel of the apple keyboards, they are nice to type at after I got used
to them.

Tuomas

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Re: Patches for laptop owners

2001-12-05 Thread Benjamin Herrenschmidt
Try to implement that in user space please - you should be able to react
to keyboard events via /dev/input/something, just have a small daemon
disable the trackpad for a short period following a key event. This might
require routing mouse events through another user space daemon like gpm
that can easily be 'blanked' by the key events.

Putting this in the kernel might annoy a lot of people (I prefer to have
the option to move the mouse while pressing modifier keys or mouse
emulation buttons, for instance).

Well, what Apple does in Darwin is to trigger a timer after a keypress
or release (that is a keyboard action) and to ignore a tapping state
change of the trackpad until this timer expires (typically a few
milliseconds). This avoids spurrious trackpad taps on those new
over-sized trackpads when typing on the keyboard. It could be easily
put in the kernel, but not before we have a way to simply configure
and turn it on/off, along with other trackpad features, via the
yet-not-written /proc/bus/adb interface ;)

Ben.




Re: Patches for laptop owners

2001-12-05 Thread Michael Schmitz
 Putting this in the kernel might annoy a lot of people (I prefer to have
 the option to move the mouse while pressing modifier keys or mouse
 emulation buttons, for instance).
 
 Well, what Apple does in Darwin is to trigger a timer after a keypress
 or release (that is a keyboard action) and to ignore a tapping state
 change of the trackpad until this timer expires (typically a few
 milliseconds). This avoids spurrious trackpad taps on those new

Maybe Apple does this. Having 'seen' some of their design decisions
(meaning having fun working around them in the driver code) I'm more
willing to assume this is a Bad Thing :-)

Plus the user was complaining about the pointer moving, not spurious
trackpad taps - which can be gotten rid of by simple 'trackpad notap'
anyway.

 over-sized trackpads when typing on the keyboard. It could be easily
 put in the kernel, but not before we have a way to simply configure
 and turn it on/off, along with other trackpad features, via the
 yet-not-written /proc/bus/adb interface ;)

I disagree. It's of course always possible and sometimes even easy to put
workarounds for broken hardware design or slightly nonstandard user
preferences in the kernel. But anything that can equally well be handled
in user space really belongs there. 

Don't get me started on /proc/bus/adb :-)

Michael



Re: what is libc6 2.2.4-6.0.1 in ppc?

2001-12-05 Thread Daniel Jacobowitz
On Wed, Dec 05, 2001 at 11:02:42AM +0900, Atsuhito Kohda wrote:
 Recently when I was upgrading sid system (ppc), dpkg complained
 that locales 2.2.4-6 depended on glibc 2.2.4-6 but there was
 no such file.  In fact there is only libc6 2.2.4-6.0.1 now.
 
 What is this libc6 2.2.4-6.0.1 and why there is no associating
 locales?
 
 If this is already known problem, I'm very sorry.

I uploaded it?

Ack!  I uploaded it!  I'm sorry!

I'll try to get this corrected soon.

-- 
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MontaVista Software Debian GNU/Linux Developer



Re: Trouble with XFree

2001-12-05 Thread Michel Dänzer
On Wed, 2001-12-05 at 06:31, Grant Bowman wrote:

 (==) ATI(0): Chipset:  ati.
 (**) ATI(0): Depth 8, (--) framebuffer bpp 8
 (--) ATI(0): ATI 88800GX-F graphics controller detected.
 (--) ATI(0): Chip type 4758 GX, class 0, revision 0x03.
 (--) ATI(0): 16-Bit ISA bus interface detected;  sparse I/O base is 0x.
 (--) ATI(0): ATI Mach64 adapter detected.
 (WW) ATI(0): Unknown RAMDAC type 0x9A detected.
 (==) ATI(0): RGB weight 666
 (==) ATI(0): Default visual is PseudoColor
 (==) ATI(0): Using gamma correction (1.0, 1.0, 1.0)
 (II) ATI(0): Using Mach64 accelerator CRTC.
 (EE) ATI(0): Linear aperture not available.
 (II) UnloadModule: ati
 (II) UnloadModule: atimisc
 (II) Unloading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/atimisc_drv.o
 (EE) Screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration.

The driver fails to recognize the RAMDAC and (maybe as a consequence)
set up a linear aperture, so it aborts initialization of the Screen.

What machine and graphics card is this? Not that I can likely be of much
help, you'd probably best contact Ani Joshi [EMAIL PROTECTED] about
this.


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XFree86 and DRI project member   /  CS student, Free Software enthusiast



Re: kernel: make config for ibook2

2001-12-05 Thread Benjamin Herrenschmidt

 I have used make config and recompiled benh's kernel for my ibook 2.

 However, after booting up, the keyboard wasn't working. Does anyone knows
 the kernel options that are responsible for making the keyboard works?

Did you build in support for the OHCI USB controller, and for HID devices?
I believe the iBook2's keyboard is actually USB, not ADB, so if you didn't
build in proper support, you'll get a perfectly functional system that you
can't interact with, just as you describe. :)

No, all apple laptops use ADB (or some kind of ADB emulation done by the
PMU for recent models, but it appears like ADB to the kernel). Make sure
CONFIG_ADB and CONFIG_ADB_PMU are both set, you may want also the power
management and backlight support.

In my recent kernels  merge with marcelo, I added a pmac_defconfig to
avoid those questions ;)

Ben.



No offb in kernel-image-2.4.16-powerpc

2001-12-05 Thread Adam C Powell IV

Greetings,

First, thanks (Dan?) for a brand new 2.4.16 binary kernel image.  I 
think everything in it works that didn't before, and will convert to 
ext3 soon.  Cool!  I've built openafs for it, will test soon, and upload 
if it works (can't test openafs-mp, sorry).


Unfortunately, like 2.4.12, although CONFIG_FB_OF=y, it behaves as if 
there is no offb!  Here's what I get from dmesg, line 10 for both is the 
same:


Kernel command line: root=/dev/hdb6 keyboard_sends_linux_keycodes=1 
video=ofonly


In 2.4.8, lines 42-47 read:

devfs: boot_options: 0x0
MacOS display is /bandit/MacPicasso540
Using unsupported 1600x1200 MacPicasso540 at 82400100, depth=16, pitch=3200
Console: switching to colour frame buffer device 200x75
fb0: Open Firmware frame buffer device on /bandit/MacPicasso540
input0: Macintosh mouse button emulation

In 2.4.16, 43-44 have:

devfs: boot_options: 0x0
input0: Macintosh mouse button emulation

No search for the MacOS display, attempt to start offb, etc. at all!

Note 2.4.12 had the same behavior.  Is this a known problem?  If not, 
consider this a bug report.  Since my video card (MacPicasso 540, 
Cirrus Logic GD5480, no, clgenfb doesn't work) is unsupported, this is a 
showstopper for me, and may render new kernels unusable for many other 
as well...


If I have some time, I'll try checking Makefiles etc., then stick a 
couple of printks in the offb init code, build, and see what happens, 
but may not be able to until January. :-(


Thanks,
--

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Re: no DHCP with 2.4

2001-12-05 Thread Adam C Powell IV

Stefan Werner wrote:

Did I forget an option when building the kernel? Do I need some extra 
kernel modules for DHCP?


Get kernel-image-2.4.16-powerpc, it works as both DHCP client and server 
for me.


Zeen,
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-Adam P.

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PCMCIA lockups on 2.4.17-pre2-ben0

2001-12-05 Thread Jeffrey W. Baker
Me again.  Powerbook G4 1st gen.  Cisco Aironet card in the PCMCIA
slot.  The powerbook is still locking up during wakeup under
2.4.17-pre2-ben0.  The lockup happens before the PCMCIA card is powered
up.  That is, when the machine hangs the card's LEDs are off.  Also, the
hang occurs before the X display is fixed.  Those of you with this
hardware know what I mean.

I'm also getting lockups at shutdown time.  The lockup happens right
after PCMCIA modules get unloaded.  It feels like the problem is
definitely in the PCMCIA code.

-jwb





mol and woody and 2.4.10-ben0

2001-12-05 Thread Rory Campbell-Lange
I'm sick of rebooting my machine so that I can do some filemaker work or
see emails on our office's appletalk-only mail client. I thought I might
be better off running these apps in mol.

I'm running 2.4.10-ben0 on a Lombard powerbook. Does this have support
for the mol modules, or do I have to do my own compile?

Also, I have two Macintosh HFS+ partitions on my hard disk. Will mol be
able to use these? I had a brief look at the mol website, but this
wasn't clear in the documents.

Thanks for any advice
Rory

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iBook2 touch pad mouse

2001-12-05 Thread John Hughes
Hi all, 

Does anyone here use an iBook2 with a wm other than Gnome or KDE? If so, what 
do you do about mouse settings.hrmm, I mean, filtering. I am not sure I 
am communicating my problem. Ok, my problem:

the track pad on my iBook2 has always been extremely sensitive and erratic. 
It jumps arround, and is nealy unuseable. What can I do about this? 

Thanks.

John



Re: iBook2 touch pad mouse

2001-12-05 Thread Matt Brubeck
On Dec 5, John Hughes wrote:

 the track pad on my iBook2 has always been extremely sensitive and erratic.
 It jumps arround, and is nealy unuseable. What can I do about this?

There were several comments in the MacInTouch iBook2 reader reports about
trackpad issues, notably in the fifth page of reports:

http://macintouch.com/ibook2001pt5.html



debian (sid)

2001-12-05 Thread Chu J Tan
Can someone explain to me why is there the need to upgrade to sid which is
still in development?
I find that deb packages for potato are not really up to date. Eg. qt is in
v2.0, kde is not available.
Can I download the source for KDE and compile it for my ibook? Is there a
different source for ppc arch?

Thanks,
Chu



Re: iBook2 touch pad mouse

2001-12-05 Thread Stefan Werner

Hi

On Wednesday, December 5, 2001, at 10:22  AM, John Hughes wrote:
Does anyone here use an iBook2 with a wm other than Gnome or KDE? If 
so, what
do you do about mouse settings.hrmm, I mean, filtering. I am not 
sure I

am communicating my problem. Ok, my problem:

the track pad on my iBook2 has always been extremely sensitive and 
erratic.

It jumps arround, and is nealy unuseable. What can I do about this?


I am using Enlightenment 16. It is usable for me, although it is more 
sensible than I'd like it to be. IIRC Gnome sets the mouse speed with a 
small, independant program (I should look it up in the gnome startup 
scripts) that can be run with other WMs as well, so you might want to 
use that one as a workaround.


Stefan



Re: kernel: make config for ibook2

2001-12-05 Thread Stefan Werner

Hi,

On Wednesday, December 5, 2001, at 03:47  AM, Michel Dänzer wrote:
I have used make config and recompiled benh's kernel for my ibook 2.

However, after booting up, the keyboard wasn't working. Does anyone knows
the kernel options that are responsible for making the keyboard works?

Assuming you are running woody and/or sid, you most likely need to
disable CONFIG_MAC_ADBKEYCODES. As a workaround, you can pass
keyboard_sends_linux_keycodes=1 to the kernel

AFAIR the disabling CONFIG_MAC_ADBKEYCODES is considered the workaround 
and keyboard_sends_linux_keycodes=1 is the solution.


However, Chu, you did not write that wasn't working means: Doesn't it 
work at all or do you get a very weird keymap? If you have a completely 
non-functional keyboard, you need to include support for ADB input 
devices in your kernel (the keyboard appears as ADB device, the Trackpad 
as a USB device). If you have the weird keymap, adding 
keyboard_sends_linux_keycodes=1 to the kernel parameters (a good place 
to do that is /etc/yaboot.conf).


I ran into the same problem, and adding this line fixed it for me.

Stefan

PS: Sorry Michael for getting this mail twice - I didn't see that the 
list server does not set the reply-to: to the list address.




Re: debian (sid)

2001-12-05 Thread sisi
On Wed, Dec 05, 2001 at 10:53:55AM -0800, Chu J Tan wrote:
 Can someone explain to me why is there the need to upgrade to sid which is
 still in development?
 I find that deb packages for potato are not really up to date. Eg. qt is in
 v2.0, kde is not available.

potato is the stable release so the most recent packages don't always
get in there. you don't need to upgrade to sid though, you can upgrade
to woody, which is very far in development. 
for the rest you can compile yourself. have a look on the websites for
individual packages requirements. but upgrading to woody should save you
that.

grts,
sisi

 Can I download the source for KDE and compile it for my ibook? Is there a
 different source for ppc arch?
 
 Thanks,
 Chu
 
 
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Re: iBook2 touch pad mouse

2001-12-05 Thread John Hughes
I should mention that under OS9 its ok, and under OSX its is nearly perfect. 
So I can only guess that it is how gpm( et. al.) is handling the signals from 
it. It really is a horrible experience having to use the track pad, I am 
hoping someone has a cure for this.

Thanks 

John

On Wednesday 05 December 2001 01:43, Matt Brubeck wrote:
 On Dec 5, John Hughes wrote:
  the track pad on my iBook2 has always been extremely sensitive and
  erratic. It jumps arround, and is nealy unuseable. What can I do about
  this?

 There were several comments in the MacInTouch iBook2 reader reports about
 trackpad issues, notably in the fifth page of reports:

 http://macintouch.com/ibook2001pt5.html



Re: kernel: make config for ibook2

2001-12-05 Thread Michel Dänzer
On Wed, 2001-12-05 at 19:04, Stefan Werner wrote:

 On Wednesday, December 5, 2001, at 03:47  AM, Michel Dänzer wrote:
  I have used make config and recompiled benh's kernel for my ibook 2.
 
  However, after booting up, the keyboard wasn't working. Does anyone 
  knows
  the kernel options that are responsible for making the keyboard works?
 
  Assuming you are running woody and/or sid, you most likely need to
  disable CONFIG_MAC_ADBKEYCODES. As a workaround, you can pass
  keyboard_sends_linux_keycodes=1 to the kernel
 
 AFAIR the disabling CONFIG_MAC_ADBKEYCODES is considered the workaround 
 and keyboard_sends_linux_keycodes=1 is the solution.

No, it's the other way around. keyboard_sends_linux_keycodes=1 is only
needed because the kernel defaults to ADB keycodes with
CONFIG_MAC_ADBKEYCODES=y.

 (the keyboard appears as ADB device, the Trackpad as a USB device).

At least on this Pismo the trackpad is an ADB device too, I have no
reason to believe it's different on an iBook2. Not that it matters with
/dev/input/mice. :)


PS: This list doesn't set the Reply-To: because that is considered
harmful. I can handle two copies of one post fine.

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Re: debian (sid)

2001-12-05 Thread Matt Brubeck
 Can someone explain to me why is there the need to upgrade to sid which
 is still in development?  I find that deb packages for potato are not
 really up to date. Eg. qt is in v2.0, kde is not available.

If you want up-to-date packages but don't want to deal with the vagaries
of unstable, I recommend upgrading to testing.  The testing distribution
automatically filters out versions with release critical bugs or broken
dependencies, so it elimininates much of the hassle of tracking sid.



Re: mol and woody and 2.4.10-ben0

2001-12-05 Thread Michel Dänzer
On Wed, 2001-12-05 at 01:04, Rory Campbell-Lange wrote:

 I'm running 2.4.10-ben0 on a Lombard powerbook. Does this have support
 for the mol modules, or do I have to do my own compile?

You have to build them yourself. Very easy with the mol-modules-source
and kernel-package packages.

 Also, I have two Macintosh HFS+ partitions on my hard disk. Will mol be
 able to use these?

Yes, it will even load the MacOS ROM off them directly.


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Re: kernel: make config for ibook2

2001-12-05 Thread Chu J Tan
Thanks guys... as a first time mac user, I did not know that the keyboard is
connected through ADB ports.

After enabling ADB support, it works great.

Chu


- Original Message -
From: Stefan Werner [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: debian-powerpc@lists.debian.org
Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2001 11:02 AM
Subject: Re: kernel: make config for ibook2


Hi,

On Wednesday, December 5, 2001, at 03:47  AM, Michel Dänzer wrote:
I have used make config and recompiled benh's kernel for my ibook 2.

However, after booting up, the keyboard wasn't working. Does anyone knows
the kernel options that are responsible for making the keyboard works?

Assuming you are running woody and/or sid, you most likely need to
disable CONFIG_MAC_ADBKEYCODES. As a workaround, you can pass
keyboard_sends_linux_keycodes=1 to the kernel

AFAIR the disabling CONFIG_MAC_ADBKEYCODES is considered the workaround
and keyboard_sends_linux_keycodes=1 is the solution.

However, Chu, you did not write that wasn't working means: Doesn't it
work at all or do you get a very weird keymap? If you have a completely
non-functional keyboard, you need to include support for ADB input
devices in your kernel (the keyboard appears as ADB device, the Trackpad
as a USB device). If you have the weird keymap, adding
keyboard_sends_linux_keycodes=1 to the kernel parameters (a good place
to do that is /etc/yaboot.conf).

I ran into the same problem, and adding this line fixed it for me.

Stefan

PS: Sorry Michael for getting this mail twice - I didn't see that the
list server does not set the reply-to: to the list address.


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Re: Buildd Failures Update

2001-12-05 Thread Stephen R Marenka
While working through the failure logs 


Build Environment Issues


strace - builds with 2.4.16 and current sid.
kannel - builds with libssl-dev 0.9.6b-4 from current sid.


Requeue Needed (builds fine for me)
--

scsitools - wish should be installed properly.
netdude - no failure log for latest version.
netcfg - no failure log (old - 2001 Jun 18)


Should be Dep-Wait?
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gide: libgbf-dev (gnome-build)
emacs-dl-canna: emacs20-dl-dev (emacs20-dl)


As always my latest notes are at 
http://marenka.net/buildd/wkgppc.txt.

Thanks,

Stephen

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Re: Buildd Failures Update

2001-12-05 Thread Mark Brown
On Wed, Dec 05, 2001 at 01:37:49PM -0600, Stephen R Marenka wrote:

 Requeue Needed (builds fine for me)
 --

 scsitools - wish should be installed properly.
 netdude - no failure log for latest version.
 netcfg - no failure log (old - 2001 Jun 18)

When I asked about working on stuff I was told to just upload stuff if
it built.  What's the party line?

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Re: Buildd Failures Update

2001-12-05 Thread Michel Dänzer
On Wed, 2001-12-05 at 21:15, Mark Brown wrote:
 On Wed, Dec 05, 2001 at 01:37:49PM -0600, Stephen R Marenka wrote:
 
  Requeue Needed (builds fine for me)
  --
 
  scsitools - wish should be installed properly.
  netdude - no failure log for latest version.
  netcfg - no failure log (old - 2001 Jun 18)
 
 When I asked about working on stuff I was told to just upload stuff if
 it built.  What's the party line?

apt-get install dput, configure it for scp and then dput changes file.
:)


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XFree86 and DRI project member   /  CS student, Free Software enthusiast



Re: Buildd Failures Update

2001-12-05 Thread James Troup
Mark Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 On Wed, Dec 05, 2001 at 01:37:49PM -0600, Stephen R Marenka wrote:
 
  Requeue Needed (builds fine for me)
  --
 
  scsitools - wish should be installed properly.
  netdude - no failure log for latest version.
  netcfg - no failure log (old - 2001 Jun 18)
 
 When I asked about working on stuff I was told to just upload stuff if
 it built.  What's the party line?

I can't/don't/won't speak for Dan, but in general, uploading stuff
because it `works for you' (aka 'human auto-building') is, IMNSHO, bad
practice.  If something doesn't auto-build cleanly, it should be
fixed.  If it was a problem with the buildd, then the buildd should be
fixed.  If it was cosmic rays, it should be retried (or whatever).  If
you fix it by building it by hand, that's okay now, but when the next
upload comes along (and assuming it wasn't cosmic rays (which it rarely
is)), it's simply going to fail again and you may not be around to
play human auto-builder that time round.

-- 
James



Re: iBook2 touch pad mouse

2001-12-05 Thread Laurent de Segur
One thing I did was to get a 3 button mouse for the iBook right after
installing Debian. On the list of things I'd like to see happening, is an
option to disable the trackpad when the USB mouse is inserted and re-enable
it when the mouse is plugged out. Maybe this is something that already
exist. Not sure.

Another thing I did to cure the epilepsy of the trackpad in Linux was to cut
a Palm Pilot transparent protection screen that I sticked on top of the
trackpad. This layer makes it less sensitive to my finger tip, but I agree
with you, the behavior of the cursor was almost perfect under OS X before I
got rid of the latter. Maybe they have some sort of corrective algorithm
that gets rid of totally erronous input. Just speculating...

LdS
- Original Message -
From: John Hughes [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Matt Brubeck [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: debian-powerpc@lists.debian.org
Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2001 11:07 AM
Subject: Re: iBook2 touch pad mouse


 I should mention that under OS9 its ok, and under OSX its is nearly
perfect.
 So I can only guess that it is how gpm( et. al.) is handling the signals
from
 it. It really is a horrible experience having to use the track pad, I am
 hoping someone has a cure for this.

 Thanks

 John

 On Wednesday 05 December 2001 01:43, Matt Brubeck wrote:
  On Dec 5, John Hughes wrote:
   the track pad on my iBook2 has always been extremely sensitive and
   erratic. It jumps arround, and is nealy unuseable. What can I do about
   this?
 
  There were several comments in the MacInTouch iBook2 reader reports
about
  trackpad issues, notably in the fifth page of reports:
 
  http://macintouch.com/ibook2001pt5.html


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Re: Buildd Failures Update

2001-12-05 Thread Mark Brown
On Wed, Dec 05, 2001 at 08:28:55PM +, James Troup wrote:
 Mark Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  When I asked about working on stuff I was told to just upload stuff if
  it built.  What's the party line?

 I can't/don't/won't speak for Dan, but in general, uploading stuff
 because it `works for you' (aka 'human auto-building') is, IMNSHO, bad
 practice.  If something doesn't auto-build cleanly, it should be

That had been my original thought.

 fixed.  If it was cosmic rays, it should be retried (or whatever).  If
 you fix it by building it by hand, that's okay now, but when the next
 upload comes along (and assuming it wasn't cosmic rays (which it rarely
 is)), it's simply going to fail again and you may not be around to
 play human auto-builder that time round.

It would also be useful to have a more general way of attaching notes to
the buildd logs.  Something like what QA has at standard.debian.net
might not go amiss.

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Sound broken in KDE again

2001-12-05 Thread John Goerzen
Sigh...

I upgraded from 2.4.15-pre6-ben0 to 2.4.17-pre2-ben0 and now I get
this from KDE on startup:

Error while initializing the sound driver:
SNDCTL_DSP_SETFMT failed - Invalid argument

and sound in KDE is broken.  Ideas?

-- John



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Re: 2.4.x kernel crashing

2001-12-05 Thread Russell Hires

 That machine has a Mach64 chip, right? 
I forgot to include an important detail: I'm actually running with a Voodoo3 
card. 
 if before
 running X, you set the VT X runs on to the same depth (using fbset) you
 have configured in X. You'll have to find out yourself.
I guess I've got more reading to do! I'll have to figure this part out. 


 If that was the only problem... when you're in xmon, bad things have
 happened and everything is interrupted. Only when you exit xmon (by
 entering 'x') does the system continue to run. So there is no filesystem
 access in xmon.
Typing 'x' could be bad anyway, since the whole system is down. At least it 
would allow for an orderly shutdown? 

I've got another question related to this: could it be a hardware failure on 
my computer's part somewhere? The kind of failure that a 2.4 kernel would 
see, where a 2.2. kernel wouldn't?

Thanks for the help!

Russell



m3mirror...

2001-12-05 Thread David N. Welton

So, what kernel does one need to make this function on an older
tibook?  I have stock 2.4.14 (I use this computer for work and need
relatively stable kernels).  Would upgrading to .16 fix it?

./m3mirror crt:1 lcd:0

open(/dev/fb0, O_RDONLY)  = 4
ioctl(4, 0x40044001, 0x7d48)= -1 EINVAL (Invalid argument)

ATI Rage M3 mirror tool, v0.1
error getting mirror value: Invalid argument

(I changed my sources to use perror just for the heck of it)

Kerplonk...

Any ideas?

Thanks,
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Re: m3mirror...

2001-12-05 Thread Jeffrey W. Baker
On Wed, 2001-12-05 at 16:47, David N. Welton wrote:
 
 So, what kernel does one need to make this function on an older
 tibook?  I have stock 2.4.14 (I use this computer for work and need
 relatively stable kernels).  Would upgrading to .16 fix it?

m3mirror has always worked fine for my on Ben's kernels.  Try those
instead of kernel.org.  If you need a really solid kernel I suggest
2.4.13.

-jwb



Re: Dual booting OSX and Debian on G3 beige

2001-12-05 Thread Chris Tillman
On Wed, Dec 05, 2001 at 11:31:46AM +, Wayne Pascoe wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 This is a repost of a saga that I am currently looking for help on
 uk.comp.os.linux. Apologies to anyone who has already seen this.
 
 The machine in question is a beige G3 oldworld machine. I have OSX
 installed and I then did this :
 
 I downloaded the first 2 disks for woody and did an FTP base install
 of that. Woody's installation appears to be more advanced that
 potato's when it comes to quik.

Yes, potato didn't really work at all. There were some quik and dirty
patches made for woody.

 
 It changed the boot-command and boot-device in my open firmware for
 me. However, a reboot just got a message scrolling saying
 
 can't OPEN:  can't OPEN: 
 
 I now have the following in /etc/quik.conf
 init-message=Debian GNU/Linux PowerPC (woody)
 default=Linux
 timeout=100
 root=/dev/hda7
 
 ## Do not point image= to a symlink, quik can't follow symlinks
 image=/boot/vmlinux-2.2.19-pmac
 label=Linux
 read-only
 
 /boot/vmlinux-2.2.19-pmac does exist. 
 
 Running quik produces the following warning :
 Warning: prior partition (entry 6) is bootable

Ah hah. You have run quik before, when partition 6 was the root
partition. 

 
 Rebooting the system with the boot-device and boot-command set to what
 debian set them to at install time 
 (boot-device /pci/mac-io/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/[EMAIL PROTECTED]:0, boot-command 
 begin ['] boot catch 1000 ms cr again boot)
 
 produces:
 0 can't OPEN:
  ok
 0
 
 If anyone can help I would _much_ appreciate it. I can't help but feel
 I'm close. I have both OS's on the machine, I just can't boot debian
 :( If anyone knows of somewhere else I could ask this question, I
 would appreciate that information as well!

What's happening is what quik is warning you about when you run it. By
default, quik finds the first bootable partition on a disk and tries
to mount it as root, and find a kernel there, etc.

You have a boot block on partition 7 also, the quik.conf shows you had
partition 7 mounted as root when you ran the Make Bootable step. One
option for the short term, is to boot partition 7 directly. To do
that, you would change the boot device to be just the same, except at
the end change @0:0 to @0:7 . For me at least, that forces it to
ignore the boot blocks on partition 6.

What's on partition 6? Can it be deleted and re-initialized? (It must
be deleted and become free space before the boot block won't be recognized
any more.)

If you don't delete partition 6, you'll always get that warning. But
if it works that way, you might not care.

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Re: iBook2 touch pad mouse

2001-12-05 Thread Daniel Lamblin
 On Dec 5, John Hughes wrote:
  the track pad on my iBook2 has always been extremely sensitive and
  erratic. It jumps arround, and is nealy unuseable. What can I do about
  this?

Although you're addressing the pointing ability of the trackpad, I
should like to mention that I particularly found the click-on-tap
feature under linux to be detremental to my X usage.

In order to solve this I downloaded the trackpad 0.1.0 rpm for yellow
dog linux, and used alien to install it on my system.
Its pretty minimal and there's probably a different way of getting the
same functionality these days (or else I expect it would be in the
debian package system), but I always use trackpad notap before I start X
due to the fact that otherwise I'll usually be typing in a terminal or
something and suddenly I'll have inadvertently clicked on something like
another window.  Which can really waste time after the 50th time it
happens; damn thumbs.

-Daniel