Kernel branch recommendation for xfs filesystem support?

[David Stanaway]

Hi,

I want to use xfs on my ppc, but I was wondering what important stuff I
would be missing from the -benh branch.

If I use the linux2.4-xfs cvs repository at SGI, should I expect
problems with powerpc?

I have a 1st gen TiBook.

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Re: Powermac 9500 won't recognize resuce floppy

[Colin Foran]

Well everything is going well, but the installer cant find the Release
file. Which is odd, ive seen the file myself under os 9.1
anywho, im going to download the woody iso image now in the hope that
ill get better luck.
thanks again guys


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Re: Can't start installation via yaboot at OpenFirmware prompt

[Kent West]

Chris Tillman wrote:


On Fri, Jul 05, 2002 at 10:21:32PM -0500, Kent West wrote:
 


At OpenFirmware prompt, I'm typing "boot hd:14,yaboot" and getting
"can't OPEN: 14:hd,yaboot   ok".
   



boot hd:14,yaboot 


is the right syntax.



Thanks for the clarification.


This is on a Blue&White G3, 128MB RAM, 6GB drive.
   


Name of device: /dev/ata0.0

Partition map (with 512 byte blocks) on '/dev/ata0.0' (/dev/hda)
#:type name  length   base ( size )
1: Apple_partition_map Apple 63 @ 1
2: Apple_Bootstrap boot1600 @ 12654848
3:Apple_Driver_ATA*Macintosh 54 @ 64
4:Apple_Driver_ATA*Macintosh 74 @ 118
5:  Apple_Driver_IOKit Macintosh512 @ 192
6:   Apple_Patches Patch Partition  512 @ 704
7: Apple_UNIX_SVR2 swap  524288 @ 1216 (256.0M)
8: Apple_UNIX_SVR2 / 153600 @ 525504   ( 75.0M)
9: Apple_UNIX_SVR2 /tmp   51200 @ 679104   ( 25.0M)
10: Apple_UNIX_SVR2 /usr 3276800 @ 730304   (  1.6G)
11: Apple_UNIX_SVR2 /var  512000 @ 4007104  (250.0M)
12: Apple_UNIX_SVR2 /home1024000 @ 4519104  (500.0M)
13:   Apple_HFS "MacOS"  6963200 @ 5543104  (  3.3G)
14:   Apple_HFS "MacShared"   148544 @ 12506304 ( 72.5M)
   


Still, it seems odd to me that the "Get Info" on the "MacOS" drive shows
"Mac OS Extended" and the "MacShared" drive shows "Mac OS Standard", yet
pdisk shows both partitions as "Apple_HFS".
   



I think the other poster was right about Apple_HFS and HFS+. In any case, 
it sounds like your setup should work now.
 

Thanks to Chris and Brad for pointing this out. So I reckon that means 
there's no way to distinguish or create an HFS+ partition using pdisk?



Which debian-imac release are you using, the 2.2 or 3.0? Perhaps there's
been some corruption of the yaboot binary or something.
 

The installation instructions pointed me to a .sit archive at 
http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/debian-imac/debian-imac.sit; that 
site doesn't say what release it is, and I'm not at the Mac at the 
moment to read any ReadMe's, etc. The installation instructions also 
point to 
http://http.us.debian.org/debian/dists/potato/main/disks-powerpc/current/ 
to get the files individually, so I reckon it's the stable/potato 
release. I'll know more Monday when I get back to the Mac.


When you dragged the 4 files, you put them on the disk icon for the Shared 
partition, not on the desktop, right?


Yes. I dragged the whole debian-imac folder to the MacShared icon, then 
opened the MacShared icon, opened the debian-imac folder, opened the 
"copy these files to the root of hard disk" (or something similar) 
folder, grabbed all four files, and copied them (not moved - I used 
Alt-Click&Hold&Drab, or Command-, or whatever the proper key is that 
does a copy instead of a move) to the open MacShared icon, which would 
be equivalent (I believe) to dropping them onto the MacShared icon from 
the desktop.


Thanks for the response, Chris & Brad!

Any more info that anyone can help with would be appreciated. Monday, 
I'll try copying the files down manually from the alternative site 
mentioned above and try with those.


Kent



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Re: Powermac 9500 won't recognize rescue floppy

[Colin Foran]

>
> BTW, if the floppy is not the problem; you can work around it temporarily
> by not choosing a keyboard map.
>
> --
>

yeah, thats what ive been doing, its working great. ill dedicate the rest of the
night to the installation, just didnt want to proceed untill i had heard from
someone on the keyboard issue.
Thanks a lot for all of your help !
-cheers


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Re: Powermac 9500 won't recognize rescue floppy

[Chris Tillman]

On Sat, Jul 06, 2002 at 09:56:46PM -0400, Colin Foran wrote:
> ok, this just keeps getting better
> the woody image did work, and i managed to make it to the installer, but after
> picking my keyboard type, no keys register.
> ...
> i chose both extended and standard, no dice.
> Any ideas with this one?
> and again, thanks for your patience everyone
> -cheers

BTW, if the floppy is not the problem; you can work around it temporarily
by not choosing a keyboard map.

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Re: Powermac 9500 won't recognize rescue floppy

[Chris Tillman]

On Sat, Jul 06, 2002 at 09:56:46PM -0400, Colin Foran wrote:
> ok, this just keeps getting better
> the woody image did work, and i managed to make it to the installer, but after
> picking my keyboard type, no keys register.
> ...
> i chose both extended and standard, no dice.
> Any ideas with this one?
> and again, thanks for your patience everyone
> -cheers

Did you happen to use the potato root.bin? It used ADB keymaps,
where the woody one uses linux keycodes. I think that would cause
this result, your woody kernel is trying to interpret the ADB keymap
from potato using linux keycodes.

For more fun reading on the keycodes issue,

http://www.debian.org/ports/powerpc/keycodes

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Re: potato or woody on emac?

[Chris Tillman]

On Sat, Jul 06, 2002 at 02:26:46PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> hello;
> 
> anyone install potato or woody on an emac?
> 
> i am consider purchasing an emac for my daughter.
> currently, she uses a dell laptop/notebook with
> mandrake-linux 8.2 installed.
> 

Not me. But you would definitely need woody, not potato. From reading Apple's 
description, it sounds similar to known-working machines. There have been 
posts about the 700MHz G4, so that in itself shouldn't be a problem.

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Re: Powermac 9500 won't recognize rescue floppy

[Colin Foran]

ok, this just keeps getting better
the woody image did work, and i managed to make it to the installer, but after
picking my keyboard type, no keys register.
...
i chose both extended and standard, no dice.
Any ideas with this one?
and again, thanks for your patience everyone
-cheers


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Re: Can't start installation via yaboot at OpenFirmware prompt

[Chris Tillman]

On Fri, Jul 05, 2002 at 10:21:32PM -0500, Kent West wrote:
> At OpenFirmware prompt, I'm typing "boot hd:14,yaboot" and getting
> "can't OPEN: 14:hd,yaboot   ok".

boot hd:14,yaboot 

is the right syntax.

> This is on a Blue&White G3, 128MB RAM, 6GB drive.
> 
> When I began this project, the machine had OS 9.2.1 on it, and I started
> by following the installation instructions at debian.org for PowerPC
> (http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/powerpc/install, particularly at
> section 6.3.3.1, which is where I got the "debian-imac" folder).
> 
> I misread the "using-pdisk.txt" and did an "i" to wipe out the partition
> table completely, and then created a partition scheme that I thought
> would provide me with Linux and Mac, but when I booted off the OS 9 CD
> the hard drive was no longer visible. It took a while (and a re-read of
> "using-pdisk.txt") to figure out I needed to reinstall OS 9 to get the
> disk drivers back in the partition table. So I started over with
> partitioning, this time leaving the disk drivers alone.
> 
> I've tried several variants of my partitioning scheme, but nothing seems
> to work. Here's my current scheme as reported by pdisk:
> 
> This app uses the SIOUX console library
> Choose 'Quit' from the file menu to quit.
> 
> Use fake disk names (/dev/scsi.; i.e. /dev/scsi0.1,
> /dev/scsi1.3, etc.).
> 
> Top level command (? for help): l
> Name of device: /dev/ata0.0
> 
> Partition map (with 512 byte blocks) on '/dev/ata0.0' (/dev/hda)
>  #:type name  length   base ( size )
>  1: Apple_partition_map Apple 63 @ 1
>  2: Apple_Bootstrap boot1600 @ 12654848
>  3:Apple_Driver_ATA*Macintosh 54 @ 64
>  4:Apple_Driver_ATA*Macintosh 74 @ 118
>  5:  Apple_Driver_IOKit Macintosh512 @ 192
>  6:   Apple_Patches Patch Partition  512 @ 704
>  7: Apple_UNIX_SVR2 swap  524288 @ 1216 (256.0M)
>  8: Apple_UNIX_SVR2 / 153600 @ 525504   ( 75.0M)
>  9: Apple_UNIX_SVR2 /tmp   51200 @ 679104   ( 25.0M)
> 10: Apple_UNIX_SVR2 /usr 3276800 @ 730304   (  1.6G)
> 11: Apple_UNIX_SVR2 /var  512000 @ 4007104  (250.0M)
> 12: Apple_UNIX_SVR2 /home1024000 @ 4519104  (500.0M)
> 13:   Apple_HFS "MacOS"  6963200 @ 5543104  (  3.3G)
> 14:   Apple_HFS "MacShared"   148544 @ 12506304 ( 72.5M)
> 
> Device block size=512, Number of Blocks=12656448 (6.0G)
> DeviceType=0x0, DeviceId=0x0
> Drivers-
> 1:  21 @ 64, type=0x701
> 2:  34 @ 118, type=0xf8ff
> 
> Top level command (? for help):
> 
> 
> After my first mistake of wiping out the partition table and then having
> to reinstall OS 9, I created a partition table similar to the one above,
> but I had the Apple_Bootstrap partition between 6 and 7 (so it was 6). I
> later moved that (using the "r" command) to the second partition as per
> another HOWTO I found. I also planned to have both OS 9 and OS/X, and I
> understood that OS/X needed Apple_HFS+ (or UFS, which has been
> recommended against by two Mac-head friends and by what I've read
> today), so I created the "MacOS" partition as "Apple_HFS+", and created
> the "MacShared" partition as "Apple_HFS" (I couldn't find any
> documentation as to what the correct type was for HFS+, so I just
> guessed that it was "Apple_HFS+".
> 
> When I then booted off the OS 9 CD, it wanted to initialize one of the
> Mac partitions (I don't remember now the exact sequence), and it seems
> like one of the drives (the HFS+ I think) didn't even show up, so I did
> a bit of tweaking and finally got both drives to show up on the desktop.
> I then installed OS 9, and put the "debian-imac" folder on the
> "MacShared" folder, and put the four special files (yaboot, yaboot.conf,
> linux, and root.bin) onto the root of "MacShared" also.
> 
> I then rebooted into OpenFirmware, and started having problems.
> 
> Throughout the day, I've gone back and installed OS/X as well, and some
> time after that noticed that it had converted the "MacShared" drive into
> "MacOS Extended", so I re-initialized that drive as "MacOS Standard".

OSX tends to mess everything up, so I'm glad you have it installed now.

> Still, it seems odd to me that the "Get Info" on the "MacOS" drive shows
> "Mac OS Extended" and the "MacShared" drive shows "Mac OS Standard", yet
> pdisk shows both partitions as "Apple_HFS".

I think the other poster was right about Apple_HFS and HFS+. In any case, 
it sounds like your setup should work now.

Which debian-imac release are you using, the 2.2 or 3.0? Perhaps there's
been some corruption of the yaboot binary or something.

When you dragged the 4 files, you put them on the disk icon for the Shared 
partition, not on the desktop, right?

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Re: Powermac 9500 won't recognize rescue floppy

[Colin Foran]

>
> Ah. Are you using boot images from potato? They don't have video=ofonly
> in the boot arguments, which you might need. Try the woody images instead,
> if these are from the potato archive.
>

yeah, i am using the potatoe images. ill give the woody images a shot now
-cheers


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Re: Powermac 9500 won't recognize rescue floppy

[Chris Tillman]

On Sat, Jul 06, 2002 at 12:33:02PM -0400, Colin Foran wrote:
> >
> 
> I've tried using a different set of floppies, still no dice. So far ive tried 
> 6
> different disks, still not getting anywhere.
> But just for the hell of it after the hfs boot image floppy was ejected, I 
> threw
> the rescue.bin disk in and it was being accessed for a good minute and a half.
> I rebooted and tried the same thing with the root.bin disk, and got no access 
> at
> all. This mean anything to anyone? It seems as though the computer hasnt 
> died, im
> just not getting any video.
> -Cheers

Ah. Are you using boot images from potato? They don't have video=ofonly 
in the boot arguments, which you might need. Try the woody images instead, 
if these are from the potato archive.

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Re: Powermac 9500 won't recognize rescue floppy

[Colin Foran]

>
>
> What kind of video card are you using? I seem to recall a few
> problems with some of the earlier ATI cards.
>

I'm using the old 4mb ATI Mach64 card that came with it. New hardware wont go 
in until
ive got Debian up and running
 -Cheers


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Re: Powermac 9500 won't recognize rescue floppy

[Brad Boyer]

On Sat, Jul 06, 2002 at 12:33:02PM -0400, Colin Foran wrote:
> all. This mean anything to anyone? It seems as though the computer hasnt 
> died, im
> just not getting any video.

What kind of video card are you using? I seem to recall a few
problems with some of the earlier ATI cards.

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LONG DISTANCE/ TOLL FREE SERVICE NEEDED FROM CANADA TO ENGLAND

[Jonathan Latham]

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Re: potato or woody on emac?

[Jason E. Stewart]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

> hello;
> 
> anyone install potato or woody on an emac?

I'm just waiting for the interesting confusion on comp.editors.emacs
when apple users start writing in for help...

jas. 


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potato or woody on emac?

[terrylr]

hello;

anyone install potato or woody on an emac?

i am consider purchasing an emac for my daughter.
currently, she uses a dell laptop/notebook with
mandrake-linux 8.2 installed.

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Re: Powermac 9500 won't recognize rescue floppy

[Chris Tillman]

On Fri, Jul 05, 2002 at 11:45:19PM -0400, Colin Foran wrote:
> Thanks for setting me straight Chris. But after booting with the
> hfs-boot-floppy.img  inserted, i still dont get anywhere. You can hear the 
> drive
> being accessed, and the tux/mac computer icon comes up, but then my screen 
> goes
> black and the floppy is spit out, without a request for root.bin in sight.
> Any ideas?
> Thanks again
> 

Maybe a bad floppy? It should have a bunch of text messages ending with 
a request for the root disk. 

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Re: Powermac 9500 won't recognize rescue floppy

[Colin Foran]

>

I've tried using a different set of floppies, still no dice. So far ive tried 6
different disks, still not getting anywhere.
But just for the hell of it after the hfs boot image floppy was ejected, I threw
the rescue.bin disk in and it was being accessed for a good minute and a half.
I rebooted and tried the same thing with the root.bin disk, and got no access at
all. This mean anything to anyone? It seems as though the computer hasnt died, 
im
just not getting any video.
-Cheers



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DRI CVS snapshot packages updated

[Michel Dänzer]

sources.list lines this time:

deb http://penguinppc.org/~daenzer/debian/dri-trunk/./
deb-src http://penguinppc.org/~daenzer/debian/dri-trunk/./


I've improved the descriptions and dependencies and added an example
XF86Config-4.


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Re: Presentation with 2nd gen TiBook

[Michel Dänzer]

On Sat, 2002-07-06 at 16:01, Fabian Jakobs wrote:
> 
> I have to do an presentation with my 2nd gen TiBook (Radeon). I can use the 
> external VGA port in a multihead environment (XFree86 4.2) but I would like 
> to mirror the contents of my LCD. Is there a way do archive this?

Make the two screens overlap in the layout section.


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Presentation with 2nd gen TiBook

[Fabian Jakobs]

Hello,

I have to do an presentation with my 2nd gen TiBook (Radeon). I can use the 
external VGA port in a multihead environment (XFree86 4.2) but I would like 
to mirror the contents of my LCD. Is there a way do archive this?

thanks in advance, Fabian

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Re: External monitor with TiBook

[Fabian Jakobs]

Am Freitag, 5. Juli 2002 23:50 schrieb Jonas Bandi:
> Hello,
>
> I know this has been discussed on the list before. I just cant find a
> definitive statement, that anybody has realy had success.
>
> So Im asking again:
>
> Has anybody managed to get a clean picture on an external monitor with a
> TiBook with a Radeon Mobility (the 2nd generation with 1152x768)...
>
> I can get a picture on the external monitor, but its quite distorted.

I managed to get the external monitor working on my  2nd gen. TiBook. I 
attached my XF86Config-4.
It works for me only without 2D acceleration, which can be annoying.

regards Fabian

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http://www.febo.nl### BEGIN DEBCONF SECTION
# XF86Config-4 (XFree86 server configuration file) generated by dexconf, the
# Debian X Configuration tool, using values from the debconf database.
#
# Edit this file with caution, and see the XF86Config manual page.
# (Type "man XF86Config" at the shell prompt.)
#
# If you want your changes to this file preserved by dexconf, only make changes
# before the "### BEGIN DEBCONF SECTION" line above, and/or after the
# "### END DEBCONF SECTION" line below.

Section "Files"
FontPath"unix/:7100"# local font server
# if the local font server has problems, we can fall back on these
FontPath"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/misc"
FontPath"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/cyrillic"
FontPath"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled"
FontPath"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled"
FontPath"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/Type1"
FontPath"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo"
FontPath"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi"
FontPath"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi"
FontPath"/var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/CID"
FontPath"/var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/TrueType"
EndSection

Section "Module"
Load"GLcore"
Load"bitmap"
Load"dbe"
Load"ddc"
Load"dri"
Load"extmod"
Load"freetype"
Load"glx"
Load"int10"
Load"pex5"
Load"record"
Load"speedo"
Load"type1"
Load"vbe"
Load"xie"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier  "Generic Keyboard"
Driver  "keyboard"
Option  "CoreKeyboard"
Option  "XkbRules"  "xfree86"
Option  "XkbModel"  "macintosh"
Option  "XkbLayout" "de"
Option  "XkbVariant""rightaltkey"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier  "Configured Mouse"
Driver  "mouse"
Option  "CorePointer"
Option  "Device""/dev/input/mice"
Option  "Protocol"  "ImPS/2"
Option  "Emulate3Buttons"   "true"
Option  "ZAxisMapping"  "4 5"
EndSection

Section "Device"
Identifier  "LCD"
Screen  0
#   Driver  "fbdev"
Driver  "radeon"
Option  "UseFBDev"  "true"
BusID   "00:16:0"
EndSection

Section "Device"
Identifier  "CRT"
Option  "CRTScreen"
Screen  1
Driver  "radeon"
BusID   "00:16:0"
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
Identifier  "Powerbook LCD"
HorizSync   40-100
VertRefresh 40-120
Option  "DPMS"
ModeLine"1152x768"  86 1152 1284 1416 1536  768 770 775 800
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
Identifier  "Iiyama"
HorizSync   27-115
VertRefresh 50-160
Option  "DPMS"
EndSection

Section "Screen"
Identifier  "LCD"
Device  "LCD"
Monitor "Powerbook LCD"
DefaultDepth16
Option  "NoAccel"
SubSection "Display"
Depth   1
Modes   "1152x768"
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Depth   4
Modes   "1152x768"
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Depth   8
Modes   "1152x768"
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Depth   15
Modes   "1152x768"
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Depth   16
Modes   "1152x768"
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Depth   24
Modes   "1152x768"
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Depth   32
Modes   "1152x768"
EndSubSection
EndSection

Section "Screen"
Identifier  "CRT"
Device  

Re: X freeze on new iBook

[Michel Dänzer]

On Sat, 2002-07-06 at 11:14, Mij wrote:
> Michel Dänzer wrote:
> 
> >On Fri, 2002-07-05 at 09:48, Reto Wyss wrote:
> >
> >DRI doesn't work out of the box, you need
> >http://www.penguinppc.org/~daenzer/XFree86-4.2/ and the DRM from a
> >current benh kernel.
> >
> >Beware that AGP will likely be unstable, just don't use it in that case.
> 
> I have the same problem, mirrored. Official 4.2 works well (not 
> accelerated, even with ati.2 gatos modules), while daenzer binaries
> freeze the machine.

What do you mean by not accelerated? My binaries freeze with DRI enabled
or without?


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Re: DRI CVS snapshot packages

[Michel Dänzer]

On Sat, 2002-07-06 at 13:11, Mij wrote:
> Mij wrote:
> 
> > Michel Dänzer wrote:
> >
> >> Note that the M6 doesn't have a TCL unit and may not work
> >> with these drivers right now. Set the environment variable
> >> RADEON_NO_TCL=1 in that case.
> >
> :)
> Should you set "export RADEON_NO_TCL=1" (or put that line in .bashrc)

You can put it in /etc/environment.

> or there are some way to get the same result putting a line in an X
> config file?
> 
> This second would be a smarter solution...

The X server can't pass this information to the clients. It should
eventually work without that environment variable, but for now it can't
hurt with an M6.


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Re: DRI CVS snapshot packages

[Mij]

Mij wrote:


Michel Dänzer wrote:


Note that the M6 doesn't have a TCL unit and may not work
with these drivers right now. Set the environment variable
RADEON_NO_TCL=1 in that case.



:)
Should you set "export RADEON_NO_TCL=1" (or put that line in .bashrc) or 
there are

some way to get the same result putting a line in an X config file?

This second would be a smarter solution...

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Re: DRI CVS snapshot packages

[Michel Dänzer]

On Sat, 2002-07-06 at 12:48, Mij wrote:
> 
> It works really well, but there's some way to tell X not use RADEON_TCL 
> natively
> (bypassing env vars)?

I'm afraid I don't understand. What are you trying to achieve?


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Re: DRI CVS snapshot packages

[Michel Dänzer]

On Sat, 2002-07-06 at 10:36, Marc Menem wrote:
> Michel Dänzer wrote:
> 
> >http://penguinppc.org/~daenzer/debian/dri-trunk/
> >
> >
> >These are once again most interesting for Radeon users. The 3D driver is
> >now based on Mesa 4.0.x and uses the chip's TCL unit for great
> >performance. Note that the M6 doesn't have a TCL unit and may not work
> >with these drivers right now. Set the environment variable
> >RADEON_NO_TCL=1 in that case. Beware that the M7, which has a TCL unit,
> >is not quite correctly reported as 'Radeon Mobility M6 LW' by lspci.
> >
> >
> >  
> >
> I tried to install them, but dri is not working (I never got it working 
> yet), it seems that my kernel radeon.o driver version is not recent enough.
> I just installed the latest benh kernel, and i use the xfree package 
> from the debian source:
> 
> deb http://people.debian.org/~branden sid/powerpc/
> 
> Do I have to patch the kernel to get the newest radeon module ? where do 
> i get this patch from ?

No patch, the drm-trunk-module-src package. Build your own
drm-module-src package with that and kernel-package.

I guess I should really describe that package? :)


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Re: DRI CVS snapshot packages

[Mij]

Michel Dänzer wrote:


http://penguinppc.org/~daenzer/debian/dri-trunk/


These are once again most interesting for Radeon users. The 3D driver is
now based on Mesa 4.0.x and uses the chip's TCL unit for great
performance. Note that the M6 doesn't have a TCL unit and may not work
with these drivers right now. Set the environment variable
RADEON_NO_TCL=1 in that case. Beware that the M7, which has a TCL unit,
is not quite correctly reported as 'Radeon Mobility M6 LW' by lspci.


To make these work, put the lines

ModulePath  "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules-dri-trunk"
ModulePath  "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules"

in the XF86Config files section, the order is important.


The packages may also be interesting for adventurous Rage128 users
because the r128 3D driver is broken (mostly wrong colors) on PPC since
the DRI CVS was updated to Mesa 4. I've tried to fix it but haven't
succeeded, and it's kinda hard for me to do anything without Rage128
hardware. So this is a call for testing and help to fix it, or it will
be broken in XFree86 4.3.0.


Reports about problems with the packages go to me, about problems with
the drivers to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .



It works really well, but there's some way to tell X not use RADEON_TCL 
natively

(bypassing env vars)?

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Re: X freeze on new iBook

[Mij]

Michel Dänzer wrote:


On Fri, 2002-07-05 at 09:48, Reto Wyss wrote:

DRI doesn't work out of the box, you need
http://www.penguinppc.org/~daenzer/XFree86-4.2/ and the DRM from a
current benh kernel.

Beware that AGP will likely be unstable, just don't use it in that case.



I have the same problem, mirrored. Official 4.2 works well (not 
accelerated, even with

ati.2 gatos modules), while daenzer binaries freeze the machine.

bye



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Re: External monitor with TiBook

[Vincent Lefevre]

On Fri, Jul 05, 2002 at 20:06:04 -0500, Marc Menem wrote:
> Do you have some utility, or configuration on the computer ? or you just 
> need to plug the external screen ? For me on an ibook2 with radeon it 
> didn't work.

Well, I have a Rage Mobility (I don't know if there a difference with
the Radeon), but the solution should be the same: use the functions
of your monitor. Concerning video projectors, I didn't have anything
to do, because the image was correct, but with one of the two video
projectors I tried, I only got 1024x768 (the left part of the screen
was missing -- perhaps there could be something to change, but it
wasn't important in my case).

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Re: DRI CVS snapshot packages

[Marc Menem]

Michel Dänzer wrote:


http://penguinppc.org/~daenzer/debian/dri-trunk/


These are once again most interesting for Radeon users. The 3D driver is
now based on Mesa 4.0.x and uses the chip's TCL unit for great
performance. Note that the M6 doesn't have a TCL unit and may not work
with these drivers right now. Set the environment variable
RADEON_NO_TCL=1 in that case. Beware that the M7, which has a TCL unit,
is not quite correctly reported as 'Radeon Mobility M6 LW' by lspci.


 

I tried to install them, but dri is not working (I never got it working 
yet), it seems that my kernel radeon.o driver version is not recent enough.
I just installed the latest benh kernel, and i use the xfree package 
from the debian source:


deb http://people.debian.org/~branden sid/powerpc/

Do I have to patch the kernel to get the newest radeon module ? where do 
i get this patch from ?



cheers
marc


(EE) RADEON(0): [dri] RADEONDRIScreenInit failed because of a version 
mismatch.
[dri] radeon.o kernel module version is 1.1.1 but version 1.2.x (x > 0) 
is neede d.

[dri] Disabling DRI.
(EE) RADEON(0): [drm] failed to remove DRM signal handler
(II) RADEON(0): [drm] removed 1 reserved context for kernel
DRIUnlock called when not locked
(II) RADEON(0): [drm] unmapping 8192 bytes of SAREA 0xd2028000 at 0x30019000
(II) RADEON(0): Memory manager initialized to (0,0) (1024,8191)
(II) RADEON(0): Reserved area from (0,768) to (1024,770)
(II) RADEON(0): Largest offscreen area available: 1024 x 7421
(==) RADEON(0): Backing store disabled
(==) RADEON(0): Silken mouse enabled
(II) RADEON(0): Using XFree86 Acceleration Architecture (XAA)


melonhead:/home/marc# lsmod
Module  Size  Used byNot tainted
radeon109064   0
agpgart41452   1  (autoclean)
hfs79788   0  (autoclean)
serial 51064   0  (autoclean) (unused)
apm_emu 3964   1
dmasound_pmac  47056   3
dmasound_core  13512   3  [dmasound_pmac]
soundcore   4616   3  [dmasound_core]
i2c-dev 4852   0  (unused)
i2c-keywest 7600   0  (unused)
i2c-core   14584   0  [dmasound_pmac i2c-dev i2c-keywest]



XFree86 Version 4.2.0 (DRI trunk) / X Window System
(protocol Version 11, revision 0, vendor release 6600)
Release Date: 18 January 2002
If the server is older than 6-12 months, or if your card is
newer than the above date, look for a newer version before
reporting problems.  (See http://www.XFree86.Org/)
Build Operating System: Linux 2.4.19-pre8-ben0-xfs-fblogo-lolat ppc [ELF] 
Module Loader present
Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting,
 (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational,
 (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
(==) Log file: "/var/log/XFree86.0.log", Time: Fri Jul  5 18:22:50 2002
(==) Using config file: "/etc/X11/XF86Config-4"
(==) ServerLayout "Default Layout"
(**) |-->Screen "Default Screen" (0)
(**) |   |-->Monitor "My Ibook"
(**) |   |-->Device "ATI Radeon Mobility M6"
(**) |-->Input Device "Generic Keyboard"
(**) Option "XkbRules" "xfree86"
(**) XKB: rules: "xfree86"
(**) Option "XkbModel" "macintosh"
(**) XKB: model: "macintosh"
(**) Option "XkbLayout" "us"
(**) XKB: layout: "us"
(==) Keyboard: CustomKeycode disabled
(**) |-->Input Device "Configured Mouse"
(**) |-->Input Device "Generic Mouse"
(WW) The directory "/usr/lib/X11/fonts/cyrillic" does not exist.
Entry deleted from font path.
(**) FontPath set to 
"unix/:7100,/usr/lib/X11/fonts/misc,/usr/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled,/usr/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled,/usr/lib/X11/fonts/Type1,/usr/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo,/usr/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi,/usr/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi"
(==) RgbPath set to "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb"
(**) ModulePath set to "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules-dri-trunk,/usr/X11R6/lib/modules"
(--) using VT number 8

(II) Open APM successful
(II) Module ABI versions:
XFree86 ANSI C Emulation: 0.1
XFree86 Video Driver: 0.5
XFree86 XInput driver : 0.3
XFree86 Server Extension : 0.1
XFree86 Font Renderer : 0.3
(II) Loader running on linux
(II) LoadModule: "bitmap"
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/fonts/libbitmap.a
(II) Module bitmap: vendor="The XFree86 Project"
compiled for 4.2.0, module version = 1.0.0
Module class: XFree86 Font Renderer
ABI class: XFree86 Font Renderer, version 0.3
(II) Loading font Bitmap
(II) LoadModule: "pcidata"
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libpcidata.a
(II) Module pcidata: vendor="The XFree86 Project"
compiled for 4.2.0, module version = 0.1.0
ABI class: XFree86 Video Driver, version 0.5
(II) PCI: PCI scan (all values are in hex)
(II) PCI: 00:0b:0: chip 106b,0027 card , rev 00 class 06,00,00 hdr 00
(II) PCI: 00:10:0: chip 1002,4c59 card 1002,4c59 rev 00 class 03,00,00 hdr 00
(II) PCI: 01:0b:0: chip 106b,0028 card , rev 00 clas

Re: Can't start installation via yaboot at OpenFirmware prompt

[Brad Boyer]

On Fri, Jul 05, 2002 at 10:21:32PM -0500, Kent West wrote:
> After my first mistake of wiping out the partition table and then having
> to reinstall OS 9, I created a partition table similar to the one above,
> but I had the Apple_Bootstrap partition between 6 and 7 (so it was 6). I
> later moved that (using the "r" command) to the second partition as per
> another HOWTO I found. I also planned to have both OS 9 and OS/X, and I
> understood that OS/X needed Apple_HFS+ (or UFS, which has been
> recommended against by two Mac-head friends and by what I've read
> today), so I created the "MacOS" partition as "Apple_HFS+", and created
> the "MacShared" partition as "Apple_HFS" (I couldn't find any
> documentation as to what the correct type was for HFS+, so I just
> guessed that it was "Apple_HFS+".
> 
> Still, it seems odd to me that the "Get Info" on the "MacOS" drive shows
> "Mac OS Extended" and the "MacShared" drive shows "Mac OS Standard", yet
> pdisk shows both partitions as "Apple_HFS".

I know it seems wrong, but both HFS and HFS+ volumes should have
the partition type set to "Apple_HFS" in order to be used by the
MacOS. In fact, every HFS+ volume is also an HFS volume, with the
HFS+ volume embedded in it. It's a mess, but that's how they got
the new format to show up with something useful on old software
installs. There really is an HFS volume there with the readme
for HFS+ available to the old software.

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