Re: No X Windows on PowerBook G3 Help!

2003-04-02 Thread befu
> On Mit, 2003-04-02 at 05:05, befu wrote:
>> 
>> 3.) With this new kernel I can't see any cursor on my black text screen. How
>> do I get my cursor back? It is annoying to guess where the cursor could be
>> and input text on the command line or in pico.
> 
> Does disabling acceleration with fbset -accel false work around this
> problem?
> 

If you mean to insert "fbset -accel" "false" into the Section "Device" in
the XF86Config-4 file like:
...
Section "Device"
Identifier"Generic Video Card"
Driver"ati"
BusID"PCI:0:17:0"
Option"UseFBDev""true"
Option"fbset -accel"  "false"
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
Identifier"Generic Monitor"
HorizSync31.5-48.5

..., I have to say that I have no missing cursor in the x-window-system,
only on the basic Debian black and white screen. This is the screen that
appears after booting and logging in as a user but before running startx.
Only on this screen the cursor is missing, and not sporadically but always.

But may be you mean I have to disable acceleration elsewhere. Please tell me
where. On the command line it didn't work.



My other question about the PCMCIA setup I will try to answer here, if I'm
wrong please correct me:

I think I only need the pcmcia-cs-3.2.4.tar.gz package and compile it into
the kernel. As the kernel source of the benh_kernel folder has all of the
needed modules, I don't need any additional pcmcia-modules package.
So the compiling of the pcmcia-cs will do.

Tanks
befu




Re: possible php bug on powerpc/4.2.3

2003-04-02 Thread Jean-Christophe Michel
Le mer 02/04/2003 à 09:49, Jean-Christophe Michel a écrit :
> Hi all,
> 
> var_export() seems to print delirious contents when printing an array:
> only the first two or three values are correctly printed. Then it seems
> to be like utf8 printed in iso-latin1...

The package maintener, Adam Conrad, just anwered me that it was fixed in
4.3.x that will soon be packaged.

-- 

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Re: Weird keymap problem

2003-04-02 Thread Marc Menem

Blam wrote:

Hi,

I'm using an iBook2.0 running 2.4.20-ben8 kernel. I'm just installing Debian
for the first time but I'm having a strange problem with the keyboard.

All the letters/numbers work fine but the other symbols are all out of
place, even for an iBook keyboard. Eg, the underscore and minus symbol are
at the /? key. Left square bracket doesn't print anything and the right
square bracket prints a + symbol, etc.



Are you sure you have the right keymap for your country ? Keymaps are 
generally the same for the letters, and diferent for symbols.


You should check that  Option   "XkbLayout"  is set to the right value 
in your file /etc/X11/XF86Config-4



I've already got append="keyboard_sends_linux_keycodes=1" in my yaboot and
have run ybin to update. Does anybody else know what the problem could be?

-Stephen







Re: Debian with Mac.

2003-04-02 Thread Benjamin Herrenschmidt

> I'm in love with the 12" G4 but I'm beginning to fear that the Airport
> Extreme will never work, which would be a major handicap, and until
> sleep is working I'm dual-booting to OS X.  Also, I liked being able
> to slip pieces of paper behind the apple logo on the iBook, and this
> seems to be non-trivial on the G4.

The Airport Extreme seem to be a Broadcom BCM94306 PCI chip.

I don't think there's a driver for it now, but it's probably
worth lobbying Broadcom a bit so they either release some specs
or a driver...

Ben.



Re: Debian with Mac.

2003-04-02 Thread Orion Buckminster Montoya
I've run Debian on a PowerBook G3 Wallstreet (233MHz), iBooks 500MHz
and 600MHz, and now a PowerBook G4 12".  I think an 800MHz iBook is an
ideal machine.  The softmodem is most unfortunate, but I haven't
dialed up anywhere in a while so it doesn't bother me.  DVD playing on
my 600MHz was a little choppy and lip-sync sometimes was lost, but I
imagine the 800MHz will help this.  You might as well give it 640MB
memory now rather than later.

The Wallstreet was actually the best machine I've ever had (I'm young,
though) -- really easy to take apart, upgradeable everywhere,
easily-removed hard drive; when I switched to the iBook I really
missed the majesty of the Wallstreet, and when I tried to upgrade the
iBook I really missed how easy it was to hack the hardware.  Heavy,
though, and big.  You can get a G4 upgrade for it, though, which is
super.

I'm in love with the 12" G4 but I'm beginning to fear that the Airport
Extreme will never work, which would be a major handicap, and until
sleep is working I'm dual-booting to OS X.  Also, I liked being able
to slip pieces of paper behind the apple logo on the iBook, and this
seems to be non-trivial on the G4.

O.

On Wed, Apr 02, 2003 at 08:48:16PM +0200, stamp wrote:
> BJ> 12,1-tums TFT XGA-screen
> BJ> 800 MHz PowerPC G3
> BJ> 512 K L2-cache (vid 800 MHz)
> BJ> 256 MB SDRAM-memory
> BJ> 30 GB Ultra ATA-unit
> BJ> DVD/CD-RW-unit
> BJ> ATI Mobility Radeon 7500
> BJ> 32 MB graphic mem
> BJ> 10/100BASE-T Ethernet
> BJ> Internal 56K-modem
> BJ> AirPort-ready
> 



Re: Debian with Mac.

2003-04-02 Thread Benjamin Herrenschmidt
On Wed, 2003-04-02 at 20:48, stamp wrote:
> BJ> 12,1-tums TFT XGA-screen
> BJ> 800 MHz PowerPC G3
> BJ> 512 K L2-cache (vid 800 MHz)
> BJ> 256 MB SDRAM-memory
> BJ> 30 GB Ultra ATA-unit
> BJ> DVD/CD-RW-unit
> BJ> ATI Mobility Radeon 7500
> BJ> 32 MB graphic mem
> BJ> 10/100BASE-T Ethernet
> BJ> Internal 56K-modem
> BJ> AirPort-ready
> 
> works really fine for me, except the modem (i don't use it anyway, but
> i heard it was a real problem to get this running...)
> 
> i didn't try to play dvd, but... hey!
> you don't need GHz's to play dvd!

DVD may actually be a problem with a G3 CPU, difficult to say...
I would expect 800Mhz to be enough, but well...

Ben.



Re: battery life

2003-04-02 Thread Jan-Hendrik Palic
On Fri, Mar 21, 2003 at 12:27:12AM +0100, Jan-Hendrik Palic wrote:

>http://ryoko.camperquake.de/solutions

Anyone tested it. Is that working?



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Weird keymap problem

2003-04-02 Thread Blam
Hi,

I'm using an iBook2.0 running 2.4.20-ben8 kernel. I'm just installing Debian
for the first time but I'm having a strange problem with the keyboard.

All the letters/numbers work fine but the other symbols are all out of
place, even for an iBook keyboard. Eg, the underscore and minus symbol are
at the /? key. Left square bracket doesn't print anything and the right
square bracket prints a + symbol, etc.

I've already got append="keyboard_sends_linux_keycodes=1" in my yaboot and
have run ybin to update. Does anybody else know what the problem could be?

-Stephen



Re: Debian with Mac.

2003-04-02 Thread stamp
BJ> 12,1-tums TFT XGA-screen
BJ> 800 MHz PowerPC G3
BJ> 512 K L2-cache (vid 800 MHz)
BJ> 256 MB SDRAM-memory
BJ> 30 GB Ultra ATA-unit
BJ> DVD/CD-RW-unit
BJ> ATI Mobility Radeon 7500
BJ> 32 MB graphic mem
BJ> 10/100BASE-T Ethernet
BJ> Internal 56K-modem
BJ> AirPort-ready

works really fine for me, except the modem (i don't use it anyway, but
i heard it was a real problem to get this running...)

i didn't try to play dvd, but... hey!
you don't need GHz's to play dvd!

mfg bert

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Re: Debian with Mac.

2003-04-02 Thread Michael Shields
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Björn Johansson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> PLEASE, mail me privately since I'm not a member
> of the mailinglist.

I'm sure you meant to say "please cc me, since I'm not a member of the
mailing list, but this way the answers will be seen by all and will
become part of the archives so no one will need to ask again."  Or,
possibly "please mail me privately and I will summarize responses in
a later mail to the list".
-- 
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Re: No X Windows on PowerBook G3 Help!

2003-04-02 Thread Michel Dänzer
On Mit, 2003-04-02 at 05:05, befu wrote: 
> 
> 3.) With this new kernel I can't see any cursor on my black text screen. How
> do I get my cursor back? It is annoying to guess where the cursor could be
> and input text on the command line or in pico.

Does disabling acceleration with fbset -accel false work around this
problem?


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Software libre enthusiast  \ http://svcs.affero.net/rm.php?r=daenzer



Re: possible php bug on powerpc/4.2.3

2003-04-02 Thread Paul Hampson
On Wed, Apr 02, 2003 at 09:49:41AM +0200, Jean-Christophe Michel wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> var_export() seems to print delirious contents when printing an array:
> only the first two or three values are correctly printed. Then it seems
> to be like utf8 printed in iso-latin1...
> 
> I experienced this on a powerpc/testing with php as cgi and module,
> php -v gives 4.2.3.
> Could someone have the same test on some other machines ?
> I don't know if it's a php bug or a ppc pkg one... though there's no bug
> report till now on bugs.php.net.

I also get this, and it doesn't happen on the i386 version of the same
module... Have you submitted a bug report? I can't see it if you have.
(4.2.3-12 here...) The stable and testing versions of PHP4 predate this
function call's presence.

I'll have a look at the code later on and see if there's something funny
going on, endian wise... But first, I'll check the php4 CVS and see if
it's a known bug... Nothing in the PHP4 bug-tracking system...

In the 4.2.3-12 package, the functions are ext/standard/var.c:237-329.
Nothing obviously wrong... The current PHP4 CVS has it exactly the
same...

I'll have a go at this with some debugging output when I've got the
time... Please X-DebBugs-CC: me when you submit the bugreport, or
let me know what the Bug # is, if it's reported but I've overlooked
it. And make sure you tag the bug 'sid' since it's relevant to the
version of PHP4 in unstable, to avoid affecting the testing-update
scripts' work.

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Re: possible php bug on powerpc/4.2.3

2003-04-02 Thread Rory Campbell-Lange
Hi Jean-Christophe

I am running testing and did the force-upgrade to unstable to get php 4.2.3.

Using your test file I got:

// file test.php var_export test
array ( 0 => 'hello', 1 => 'bonjour', 2 => 'Guten Tag', 3 => 'Hayo', 4
=> 'Salam', 4 =>  3 => [EMAIL PROTECTED]@D$??ÿÏ`$$? 
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when run through apache.

I note some other funny stuff though; my php4 command line binary
doesn't load the correct .so files, and states its version as 4.1.2.

Otherwise phpinfo() gives me:

PHP Version 4.2.3

System Linux voltaire 2.4.19-powerpc-smp #1 SMP Mon Sep 9 09:11:02 EDT
2002 ppc unknown unknown GNU/Linux
Build Date Mar 15 2003 17:45:31...


On 02/04/03, Jean-Christophe Michel ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> var_export() seems to print delirious contents when printing an array:
> only the first two or three values are correctly printed. Then it seems
> to be like utf8 printed in iso-latin1...
> 
> I experienced this on a powerpc/testing with php as cgi and module,
> php -v gives 4.2.3.
> Could someone have the same test on some other machines ?
> I don't know if it's a php bug or a ppc pkg one... though there's no bug
> report till now on bugs.php.net.
-- 
Rory Campbell-Lange 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>




Debian with Mac.

2003-04-02 Thread Björn Johansson

Hi!

I'm going to buy a Mac in a not far away future.
So I'm wondering what Macs works best with
Debian3.0? How about this one?

12,1-tums TFT XGA-screen
800 MHz PowerPC G3
512 K L2-cache (vid 800 MHz)
256 MB SDRAM-memory
30 GB Ultra ATA-unit
DVD/CD-RW-unit
ATI Mobility Radeon 7500
32 MB graphic mem
10/100BASE-T Ethernet
Internal 56K-modem
AirPort-ready

I also would like know if this Mac has enough horsepower
to be able to display DVD:s with good quality.

PLEASE, mail me privately since I'm not a member
of the mailinglist.


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Re: evolution 1.2

2003-04-02 Thread raphaello-debianuser
 Thanks for the info: for use of people as newbie as I am, and to avoid
 them the searchings I did, here is how I have found to do (I have
 testing version on my Power Book Wall Street): 
 
 - add in /etc/apt/source.list the lines corresponding to unstable and
 sid
 - I added in /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/70debconf the line:
 "APT::Default-Release "testing"; "
 but it did nothing good more, so I cancelled it. 
 - I created a file /etc/apt/prefetences, here is it: 
 
  Package: *
  Pin: release a=testing
  Pin-Priority: 900
 
  Package: *
  Pin: release a=unstable
  Pin-Priority: 500
 
  Package: *
  Pin: release o=Debian,a=sid
  Pin-Priority: 200
 
 But when I was doing apt-get update, I was getting an error message: 
 "E: Invalid record in the preferences file, no Package header"
 (I also tried without "o+Debian", same result)
 
 so I cancelled this file as well. 
 
 So, I just added the lines for unstable and sid in source.list. 
 
 Then, I did apt-get install -t sid evolution, and it worked. I got
 evolution 1.2, as I wanted, I had for this to download 25 Mo sources,
 including upgrading for mozilla 1.3 (testing was at 1.0). 
 It looks to work since yesterday. 
 
 Then I cancelled the lines for sid in source.list. 
 
 Handmade, but it worked. 
 




Le jeu 13/03/2003 à 04:25, Chris Tillman a écrit :
> > On Thu, Mar 13, 2003 at 03:19:19AM +0100, you wrote:
> > > Thanks a lot. 
> > > 
> > > Now, a question that will look stupid to many, but useful to 5,9 billion
> > > people that didn't deeply read all the docs ;-) : 
> > > 
> > > I have sarge. Can I use sid version of this program, without using sid
> > > for all the distribution? If yes, how do I install it? 
> > 
> > You can use 
> > 
> > APT::Default-Release "testing";
> > 
> > in your /etc/apt/apt.conf to keep your system mostly
> > at testing (or stable, if that's where you're at) and
> > then use apt-get -t to ask for a given distribution
> > when installing a given package.
> > 
> > But, I suspect a large package like evolution will drag in 
> > some serious dependencies like the sid-version libc6 and
> > a host of others; you might want to use -s first to see
> > what's going to happen.
> > 
> > man apt-get
> > man apt.conf



possible php bug on powerpc/4.2.3

2003-04-02 Thread Jean-Christophe Michel
Hi all,

var_export() seems to print delirious contents when printing an array:
only the first two or three values are correctly printed. Then it seems
to be like utf8 printed in iso-latin1...

I experienced this on a powerpc/testing with php as cgi and module,
php -v gives 4.2.3.
Could someone have the same test on some other machines ?
I don't know if it's a php bug or a ppc pkg one... though there's no bug
report till now on bugs.php.net.

Here is a code to test:

// file test.php
';

  $a = array('hello', 'bonjour', 'Guten Tag', 'Hayo', 'Salam', 'Buon
giorno');

  var_export($a);

// you can try too 
// echo var_export($a, true);
?>

-- 

Jean-Christophe Michel
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: evolution 1.2

2003-04-02 Thread raphaello-ilsole24
Thanks for the info: for use of people as newbie as I am, and to avoid
them the searchings I did, here is how I have found to do (I have
testing version on my Power Book Wall Street): 

- add in /etc/apt/source.list the lines corresponding to unstable and
sid
- I added in /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/70debconf the line:
"APT::Default-Release "testing"; "
but it did nothing good more, so I cancelled it. 
- I created a file /etc/apt/prefetences, here is it: 

 Package: *
 Pin: release a=testing
 Pin-Priority: 900

 Package: *
 Pin: release a=unstable
 Pin-Priority: 500

 Package: *
 Pin: release o=Debian,a=sid
 Pin-Priority: 200

But when I was doing apt-get update, I was getting an error message: 
"E: Invalid record in the preferences file, no Package header"
(I also tried without "o+Debian", same result)

so I cancelled this file as well. 

So, I just added the lines for unstable and sid in source.list. 

Then, I did apt-get install -t sid evolution, and it worked. I got
evolution 1.2, as I wanted, I had for this to download 25 Mo sources,
including upgrading for mozilla 1.3 (testing was at 1.0). 
It looks to work since yesterday. 

Then I cancelled the lines for sid in source.list. 

Handmade, but it worked. 



Le jeu 13/03/2003 à 04:25, Chris Tillman a écrit :
> On Thu, Mar 13, 2003 at 03:19:19AM +0100, you wrote:
> > Thanks a lot. 
> > 
> > Now, a question that will look stupid to many, but useful to 5,9 billion
> > people that didn't deeply read all the docs ;-) : 
> > 
> > I have sarge. Can I use sid version of this program, without using sid
> > for all the distribution? If yes, how do I install it? 
> 
> You can use 
> 
> APT::Default-Release "testing";
> 
> in your /etc/apt/apt.conf to keep your system mostly
> at testing (or stable, if that's where you're at) and
> then use apt-get -t to ask for a given distribution
> when installing a given package.
> 
> But, I suspect a large package like evolution will drag in 
> some serious dependencies like the sid-version libc6 and
> a host of others; you might want to use -s first to see
> what's going to happen.
> 
> man apt-get
> man apt.conf




Re: No X Windows on PowerBook G3 Help!

2003-04-02 Thread Michael Schmitz
> 2.) With this kernel I can finally run the ati driver instead of the fbdev
> driver (which was the only driver able to run on kernel 2.4.18).
> I just get some 3-5 seconds of "erupting colourful clouds" on my screen when
> starting the kde environment with startx just before the light grey screen
> appears. These "clouds" I also recognise when I boot into MacOS X. But here
> only for a duration of half a second. Are these "clouds" a sign for any
> destructive possibility?

Nope. Something isn't initialized right away, I'd guess.

> 3.) With this new kernel I can't see any cursor on my black text screen. How
> do I get my cursor back? It is annoying to guess where the cursor could be
> and input text on the command line or in pico.

I've had that on the Lombard with a previous 2.4 version - happened
sporadically, no differences in the dumped register output ...

Michael



Re: hwclock on a PowerMac 9500 and summertime

2003-04-02 Thread Mich Lanners
On   1 Apr, this message from Boris Bezlaj echoed through cyberspace:
> On Tue, Apr 01, 2003 at 08:25:39PM +0200, David Ulrich wrote:
>> 
>> I put it on summertime and add a ntp server (ntp, ntp-simple and 
>> ntpupdate). So the clock is always on time.
>> My debian is always on time now:

>> But I can fix my hardware clock on summertime:
>> 
>> dulrich# hwclock --show
>> Tue Apr  1 19:15:32 2003  -0.984699 seconds
>> 
>> I try:
>> hwclock --systohc, hwclock stop/start, hwclock force-reload
>> The hardware clock get the summertime:
>> 
>> hwclock --systohc
>> daisy:/home/dulrich# hwclock --show
>> Tue Apr  1 20:15:21 2003  -0.454536 seconds
>> 
>> but some minutes later:
>> dulrich# hwclock --show
>> Tue Apr  1 19:18:09 2003  -0.510788 seconds

Weird...

> IMHO, the best practice is to keep hw clock coordinated to
> UTC(Greenwich), and use the right timezone..that way you never need to
> worry about summer time shift 8)

Which is the best solution if you never run MacOS.

However, there are two things to note here:

- MacOS also keeps a DST flag in nvram, which will be honoured by Linux
  upon boot. So it can happen that your time is an hour off until you
  run ntpdate in the startup scripts.

- You may have some script running which periodically updates the RTC
  with the current (kernel) time. Have a look at the /etc/cron.d
  directory and the other /etc/cron* files. It _might_ also be the
  kernel together with the RTC driver who's updating the clock, not
  sure...

- The above-mentioned auto-update will likely fail if you have the wrong
  UTC/non-UTC setting in /etc/default/rcS.

Hope this helps

Michel

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