Re: mounting...

2005-06-07 Thread Lorenz Schori
possibly this helps: http://lists.terrasoftsolutions.com/pipermail/ 
yellowdog-general/2004-July/015059.html



Am 06.06.2005 um 22:44 schrieb Wolf Drechsel:


Hello,

I got a cable to mount my external disk on the USB-connector. This  
is bad style... - but works better than the FireWire thing:


But now:

After doing a

mount -t hfsplus /dev/sda10/hfs

or

mount -o rw -t hfsplus /dev/sda10/hfs

I get:

HFS+-fs-warning: Filesystem was not cleanly unmounted, running  
fsck.hfsplus is recommended. mounting read-only


I can read from this disk  - but not write.

How can I obtain fsck.hfsplus for a i386 debian (kernel 2.4.27) ? -  
It's not on my machine.


Or is there another way of resolving this -

mount -o rw,remount /dev/sda14

leaves the filesystem unmounted.

Thanks and greetings,

Wolf


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Re: Fwd: Re: Fwd: Re: multible partitions?

2005-06-07 Thread Michael Schmitz
   ieee1394: sbp2: Logged into SBP-2 device
   ieee1394: sbp2: Node 0-00:1023: Max speed [S400] - Max payload [2048]
 
 What's missing here is crucial: there should be a SCSI device registered
 here, usually sda. Not having anything SCSI related here is odd. What
 happens in the kernel log when you try a mac-fdisk -l /dev/sda at this
 stage?

 Unluckily I just have cfdisk, fdisk and sfdisk, but not the mac-fdisk.
 The first mentioned ones do not produce any output.

Install mac-fdisk (or parted) if you want to deal with Mac partitioned
disks (that's what your disk is, right?).

 Did you unplug or power down the firewire disk in between?

 Yes, I tried resetting by unplugging,
 replugging and powering down several times.

That might've unregistered any firewire scsi device registered in the
first step. Repeat the whole procedure without powering down the firewire
disk, and send the log by PM please.

 and found the first 'SCSI' device ever in the system. Which is odd,
 because the firewire sbp2 driver ought to have located your firewire disk
 before, making this one sdb.

 I checked USB stick and FW drive at the same
 time. When the stick is attached and mounted:
 fdisk -l /dev/sda shows the usb stick,
 fdisk -l /dev/sdb gives no output

 So the FW disk seems to be ignored completely.

Seems like it.

 Might be interesting to see what usb-storage has to tell here -
 deregistering the sda1 disk perhaps. Or maybe it got automatically mounted
 and not hasn't been unmounted yet (check the output of 'mount' before
 unplugging it).

 Yes - here I unplugged the USB stick.

What happens in the kernel log when the stick is unplugged? Are any
partitions from the stick still mounted?

 What kernel version does this happen on? Any difference if you plug in the
 firewire disk _after_ the kernel has booted up?

 The kernel is 2.4.27. I noticed no diffenence

Never tried firewire with a 2.4 kernel. I'd recommend switching to 2.6
instead.

 Another strange thing:

 I read cat /proc/partitions: with the FW disk and
 USB stick attached  - and then removed the USB
 stick. There was no change in output at cat
 /proc/partitions - exactly the same values, which
 IMHO are correct for the stick and not for the
 disk:

That is definitely not supposed to happen - unless the kernel still has
partitions mounted from the stick, or other I/O ops pending. Again, check
the 'mount' output. My (2.1.11) kernel removes the /proc/partition entries
for the USB stick upon unplugging. The entries still being present means
the kernel still has the stick registered, and subsequent I/O fails since
it actually was removed. Either the device removal notification does not
get through, or the kernel holds on to the device because there are still
channels open on it. The mount table and the kernel log should have some
clues there.

Michael





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Re: KDE 3.4

2005-06-07 Thread Sylvain Joyeux
AFAIK, it is because alioth packages are not built by the buildds but by 
the debian developers, and they do not had (yet) the CPU time to build the 
whole KDE

Sylvain


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Re: Sound in g4

2005-06-07 Thread Martin Habets
With ALSA/Debian I have the issue that I have to add snd to
/etc/modules manually. /etc/init.d/alsa won't do anything
otherwise, as /proc/asound does not exist.

Not sure if the init script is from debian or alsa. This happens
on all hardware platforms. In your case, a
 modprobe snd-powermac
should load the sound driver for you. Run alsamixer to unmute it.

Martin

On Tue, Jun 07, 2005 at 02:30:51AM +, Mike S wrote:
 this is probably a totally newbie question, but I have just switched to 
 debian from ubuntu, and am working on a self compiled 2.6.11 upstream 
 kernel.  I compiled all the sound stuff as modules, but I do not know 
 what file to edit to load them, or even how to start.  KDE reports no 
 /dev/dsp on startup, and when I run lsmod it shows no snd or anything 
 like that, so could someone point me in the right direction to start 
 setting up sound on this thing?
 
 --Mike S
 if specs are needed this is a G4 Dual 450 (Gigabit Ethernet model) and I 
 am not sure what the sound card is.


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TV-out with Mac Mini

2005-06-07 Thread Jack Ryan
Hello,
did anybody succeeded in using the apple dvi-svideo
adapter under Linux? The best I got while playing with
the X11 modelines was a BW distorded picture.
I already tried most of the modelines I could find on
the net.
I don't have MacOS installed so I cannot test but some
other people have the same problem as me but get it to
work under MacOS.

Any idea?

Thanks in advance
Jean-François






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Sarge

2005-06-07 Thread Guillaume Florey
Hi everybody,
Just wanted to say that sarge is out ! And I also like to know who is going to 
use it (inclusive me ;-)

Best Regards

Guillaume


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Re: Sarge

2005-06-07 Thread William Xu
Guillaume Florey [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Hi everybody,
 Just wanted to say that sarge is out ! And I also like to know who is going 
 to 
 use it (inclusive me ;-)

Why not sid ? :P

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Re: ibook g4 battery status/blankscreen problems

2005-06-07 Thread Matthias Grimm
On Tue, 07 Jun 2005 00:24:11 -0400
Eric Pineault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi,

 I've also got this bug on two version of the Ibook, ie on revision 1.1
 and revision 1.2 (just installed ubuntu on a new Ibook). Did all the
 other fixing and bug still around.

Same question to you: When you press fn+F1 after the screen stayed dark,
how does the machine react? Does the brightness starts from low level or
jumped it right back to the brightness it had before you closed the lid?

How are your programming skills? Could you recompile pbbuttonsd from the
source package with debugging enabled? If so I would like to send you a
debugging configuration that possible give us some hints.

  Best Regards
   Matthias


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Re: Sound in g4

2005-06-07 Thread Mike S

Martin Habets wrote:


With ALSA/Debian I have the issue that I have to add snd to
/etc/modules manually. /etc/init.d/alsa won't do anything
otherwise, as /proc/asound does not exist.

Not sure if the init script is from debian or alsa. This happens
on all hardware platforms. In your case, a
modprobe snd-powermac
should load the sound driver for you. Run alsamixer to unmute it.

Martin

On Tue, Jun 07, 2005 at 02:30:51AM +, Mike S wrote:
 

this is probably a totally newbie question, but I have just switched to 
debian from ubuntu, and am working on a self compiled 2.6.11 upstream 
kernel.  I compiled all the sound stuff as modules, but I do not know 
what file to edit to load them, or even how to start.  KDE reports no 
/dev/dsp on startup, and when I run lsmod it shows no snd or anything 
like that, so could someone point me in the right direction to start 
setting up sound on this thing?


--Mike S
if specs are needed this is a G4 Dual 450 (Gigabit Ethernet model) and I 
am not sure what the sound card is.
   




 

I thank you martin, that cracked it, atleast for now, haven't restarted 
the computer yet, but I did modprobe snd-powermac, and that loaded all 
the snd modules, and then I changes the group id of /dev/dsp so that my 
user's group had permission to it, and long story short three logout's 
later kde finally uttered sound on startup and did not give me the 
/dev/dsp not found or /dev/dsp (permission Denied) errors.  looks like 
there's a lot of subtle little differences in debian and ubuntu, as it 
looks like I am going to have to change o lot of group id's just so I 
can access them without being root.


Thanks again,
--Mike S


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Re: Sound in g4

2005-06-07 Thread David Pye
On Tuesday 07 June 2005 15:01, Mike S wrote:
snip

 I thank you martin, that cracked it, atleast for now, haven't restarted
 the computer yet, but I did modprobe snd-powermac, and that loaded all
 the snd modules, and then I changes the group id of /dev/dsp so that my
 user's group had permission to it, and long story short three logout's
 later kde finally uttered sound on startup and did not give me the
 /dev/dsp not found or /dev/dsp (permission Denied) errors.  looks like
 there's a lot of subtle little differences in debian and ubuntu, as it
 looks like I am going to have to change o lot of group id's just so I
 can access them without being root.

No!

There's a point to these group-ids.

The correct way to allow yourself to write to /dev/dsp is to add yourself to 
the audio group, as a secondary group, *not* chmod the device.

This applies to any other devices which are owned by 'special' groups.

David

 Thanks again,
 --Mike S

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Re: Sound in g4

2005-06-07 Thread Mike S

David Pye wrote:


On Tuesday 07 June 2005 15:01, Mike S wrote:
snip
 


I thank you martin, that cracked it, atleast for now, haven't restarted
the computer yet, but I did modprobe snd-powermac, and that loaded all
the snd modules, and then I changes the group id of /dev/dsp so that my
user's group had permission to it, and long story short three logout's
later kde finally uttered sound on startup and did not give me the
/dev/dsp not found or /dev/dsp (permission Denied) errors.  looks like
there's a lot of subtle little differences in debian and ubuntu, as it
looks like I am going to have to change o lot of group id's just so I
can access them without being root.
   



No!

There's a point to these group-ids.

The correct way to allow yourself to write to /dev/dsp is to add yourself to 
the audio group, as a secondary group, *not* chmod the device.


This applies to any other devices which are owned by 'special' groups.

David

 


Thanks again,
--Mike S
   



 

ok, I need to learn to quit whinning to the lsit, I apologize for that, 
I used chown :audio on the device, which is what I think you said it was 
right, and then I did a usermod -G on myself for the audio group, which 
should have added me to the audio group, correct? Kuser reports that 
indeed I am a part of the admin and audio group, so I am guessing I did 
that right, please let me know if I did not.


--Mike S


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Help Installing on a Blue and White G3

2005-06-07 Thread Jeffry Asbury
Hi everybody, I have been a long time debian user and i recently
decided to attempt to install sarge on an old Mac Blue and White G3.
This so far it seems that i don't have the where-with-all to succede
in doing this. I downloaded the PPC install discs and booted from
those CDs but when i get to Yaboot it had some kind of error reading
the yaboot.conf and whatever i try to  boot the installer it fails.
What exactly do i need to do to start the installer? I went over and
over the install guide and can't figure out what is going wrong.

-Jeff



Re: Sound in g4

2005-06-07 Thread Paul Brossier
On Tue, Jun 07, 2005 at 04:02:26PM +, Mike S wrote:
 ok, I need to learn to quit whinning to the lsit, I apologize for that, 
 I used chown :audio on the device, which is what I think you said it was 
 right, and then I did a usermod -G on myself for the audio group, which 
 should have added me to the audio group, correct? Kuser reports that 
 indeed I am a part of the admin and audio group, so I am guessing I did 
 that right, please let me know if I did not.

all you need to do is to 'adduser username group', and log in again.
you can use 'groups' to list the groups you are part of, and a similar
'deluser username group' to remove a user from a group.

on a desktop sarge install, it gives the following
$ groups
piem dialout cdrom floppy audio video plugdev

except if you installed gnome or other packages (alsa?) after creating
your user. then you will want to add yourself to the above groups. the
'plugdev' group is to have group-volume-manager automount your devices.

the group 'src' is also useful to compile kernels in /usr/src as a user.
and the 'adm' one sometimes, to read the syslogs.

bye, piem


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Re: Sound in g4

2005-06-07 Thread Paul Brossier
On Tue, Jun 07, 2005 at 06:08:10PM +, Mike S wrote:
 Again I thank this list and the people in it for their help.  After some 
 tinkering around I finally got it to work, everytime after a reboot.  I 
 am not sure it is the best way, and no little to nothing about the rc 
 scripts, but what I had to do was echo both snd and snd-powermac into 
 the /etc/modules file to get it to work right, and play around with the 
 usermod command to give myself access to various things.

adduser is a lot simpler to use i found.

$ adduser mike audio

 I still haven't managed to get kscd to work right, but that is probably 
 another group I will have to add my user to in order to be able to 
 access the cdrom.  And it also has (probably) something to do with the 
 same reason that things don't automount, but again, Thanks

you need to be part of the plugdev group to have automount working:

$ sudo apt-get install gnome-volume-manager
$ sudo adduser $USER plugdev

bye, piem


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Re: ppc64 kernel?

2005-06-07 Thread Paul Brossier
On Tue, Jun 07, 2005 at 02:12:43PM +, Arnór Kristjánsson wrote:
 I installed this but the network doesn't work. Any ideas?

strange, it worked for me on a powermac g5. isn't it one of these
uninorth one?

Sven, a few questions, sorry they all came in a row :-)

- could you enable GONFIG_PM72 in the -pseries so powermac can have fan
  support? (it seems Arnór's xserve uses something else then)

- no kernel-headers-2.6.11-power{3,4}{,-smp} in unstable?

- how do i compile a 64bit kernel using a 32 bit kernel? (i could
  compile using your pseries kernel and in a ppc64 chroot)

thanks, piem

 On 4.6.2005, at 06:42, Sven Luther wrote:
 
 On Sat, Jun 04, 2005 at 03:29:08PM +1000, Benjamin Herrenschmidt  
 wrote:
 
 On Fri, 2005-06-03 at 23:45 +, Arnór Kristjánsson wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 I have 2.6.8-12-power4-smp installed on my sarge G5 XServe and I'd
 really want to increase the fan's lifespan; the fans have been
 spinning at full rev for months. Where can I find a kernel more
 gentle on the fans?
 
 
 A recent ppc64 kernel should support fan control on these
 
 
 Hehe, so i was wrong, and the kernels should help. Benh, could i  
 ask you to
 test those kernels and glibc/toolchain on your various ppc64  
 hardware and
 provide feedback comment to me ?
 
 Friendly,
 
 Sven Luther
 
 
 
 


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Re: [Debian-ppc64-devel] Re: G5 owners, please test ... Re: ppc64 pseries 2.6.11-2 .deb kernel available.

2005-06-07 Thread Shyamal Prasad
Sven == Sven Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Sven On Sat, Jun 04, 2005 at 12:33:10PM -0700, Shyamal Prasad
Sven wrote:

 It works. But it is missing the fan control patches from the
 sarge debian kernel, so my fans are going full blast.

Sven Cool. Sorry about the fan control, but now that we have
Sven something working, you are welcome to provide patches. I
Sven think i saw something from benh about fan control on 64bit
Sven kernel in debian-powerpc, need to investigate.

I looked but could not find such a post from benh. 

But the sarge kernel seems to have CONFIG_THERM_PM72 set, while the
pseries one does not. Perhaps that is all.?

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ grep THERM /boot/config-2.6.*
/boot/config-2.6.11-pseries:# CONFIG_THERM_PM72 is not set
/boot/config-2.6.11-pseries:CONFIG_W1_THERM=m
/boot/config-2.6.11-pseries:CONFIG_USB_CYTHERM=m
/boot/config-2.6.8-power4-smp:CONFIG_THERM_PM72=y
/boot/config-2.6.8-power4-smp:CONFIG_W1_THERM=m
/boot/config-2.6.8-power4-smp:CONFIG_USB_CYTHERM=m

Cheers!
Shyamal


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[Fwd: Re: ibook g4 battery status/blankscreen problems]

2005-06-07 Thread Eric Pineault
 Forwarded Message 
From: Eric Pineault [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Matthias Grimm [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: ibook g4 battery status/blankscreen problems
Date: Tue, 07 Jun 2005 22:21:26 -0400

New developments, on my Ibook G4 revision 1.2 sleep now works fine ! On
the older revision 1.1 Ibook here is what happens, when I press f1
(without fn) the screen gradually returns to normal brightness, and the
gtkppbuttons icon appears during process, this happened back when sleep
worked, but now curiously sleep ie suspend to ram doesn't work at all,
when I close lid or press button screen goes dark that's it. Don't
remember how I  disabled sleep but its done, can't even get sleep when I
modify accordingly powerprefs (front end that modifies
ppbuttons.conf)...

On mar, 2005-06-07 at 18:37 +0200, Matthias Grimm wrote:
 On Tue, 07 Jun 2005 00:24:11 -0400
 Eric Pineault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
  I've also got this bug on two version of the Ibook, ie on revision 1.1
  and revision 1.2 (just installed ubuntu on a new Ibook). Did all the
  other fixing and bug still around.
 
 Same question to you: When you press fn+F1 after the screen stayed dark,
 how does the machine react? Does the brightness starts from low level or
 jumped it right back to the brightness it had before you closed the lid?
 
 How are your programming skills? Could you recompile pbbuttonsd from the
 source package with debugging enabled? If so I would like to send you a
 debugging configuration that possible give us some hints.
 
   Best Regards
Matthias
 
 


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fans?

2005-06-07 Thread Mike S
I have been reading posts back and forth on fan control in the ppc64 
kernels.  I am in no way on that architecture (you lucky ducks) but this 
has intrigued me, is it a bad thing that my 2 fans are always going in 
this G4?


As I am learning this (linux) how would I test the internal temperature, 
rather than physically sticking a thermometer in there for a few hours 
of use?  My girlfriend is often complaining that the fans are too loud 
when I am in linux, I don't notice much difference, but if this is 
something that can/should be tweaked, can someone point me to a url 
somewhere or explain to me how this should be done?


I am working on a self compiled 2.6.11 upstream kernel, but when I just 
read the post about from Shyamal I think saying that his fans were going 
full blast, and if mine are I wouldn't know the difference, so I just 
thought I would ask.


--Mike S


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fans?

2005-06-07 Thread Mike S
I have been reading posts back and forth on fan control in the ppc64 
kernels.  I am in no way on that architecture (you lucky ducks) but this 
has intrigued me, is it a bad thing that my 2 fans are always going in 
this G4?


As I am learning this (linux) how would I test the internal temperature, 
rather than physically sticking a thermometer in there for a few hours 
of use?  My girlfriend is often complaining that the fans are too loud 
when I am in linux, I don't notice much difference, but if this is 
something that can/should be tweaked, can someone point me to a url 
somewhere or explain to me how this should be done?


I am working on a self compiled 2.6.11 upstream kernel, but when I just 
read the post about from Shyamal I think saying that his fans were going 
full blast, and if mine are I wouldn't know the difference, so I just 
thought I would ask.


--Mike S


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