Re: ext. Cinema Display with FBDev

2005-09-11 Thread Michael Igler
Douglas Russell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Sunday 28 Aug 2005 14:25, Michael Igler wrote:
  I have an almost working config with kernel 2.6.12.3 and XFree 4.5.0
  over the FBDev.
 
 I was under the impression that external video would not work with FBDev on.

Well, the output isn't that good with video=ofonly, but it is the only
config in yaboot that takes effect. It creates a fb1 in /dev, which is
the Cineam Display on the DVI port.

What is the difference between video=ofonly and video=radeonfb ?
radeonfb does not create a framebufferdevice in /dev/fb1. Only fb0.
Any tips ?

 
  Experiences in builing an DRI driver with X.org or
  with R300 codes on http://r300.sourceforge.net/R300.php are
  appreciated, too.
 
 I think the R300 stuff has gone into x.orgs CVS so I've not tried building it
 separately myself. It seemed to work fine although I couldn't get it to work
 with glx.

Have tried the latest stable X.org now. But I can't get a proper output
on the cinema display. The LCD of the Powerbook is working perfect.

If Anyone out there has a working xorg.conf for the Ciname Display,
please let me know (yaboot.conf, kernel config are welcome).

Nice Sunday,

Mike


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Re: sudden power loss on tibook

2005-09-11 Thread James Ballantine
Michael Schmitz wrote:
appear to be fixed at full CPU speed ('performance' profile), and
occasionally shut down spontaneously anyway.
 
 
 Odd. Unless cpufreqd would drop the CPU frequency only for a very short
 period - anything in the logs about frequency switching?

I've been running cpufreqd for the last few days with full logging
enabled. the system powered off just now - I don't see anything
anomalous in /var/log/syslog (and no mention of frequency changes).

I've attached the relevant section of the log, showing everything in
syslog for the last few seconds of uptime. The last line is the system
booting (with the clock reset).

I've now disabled cpufreqd and am testing powernowd to see if I get the
same behaviour.

Subjectively, it seems like these resets happen during times of higher
system load: Fan running, disk or memory access occurring, cpu somewhat
busy.

/james
Sep 11 18:54:33 localhost cpufreqd: get_cpu(): CPU c_user=1061413 c_nice=0 
c_sys=228201 c_idle=17843430 c_iowait=239463 c_irq=95368 c_softirq=9065. 
Sep 11 18:54:33 localhost cpufreqd: get_cpu(): CPU delta_activity=8 
delta_time=202 weighted_activity=1394047. 
Sep 11 18:54:33 localhost cpufreqd: get_cpu(): CPU usage = 3. 
Sep 11 18:54:33 localhost cpufreqd: get_running_programs(): read 76 processes 
Sep 11 18:54:33 localhost cpufreqd: get_running_programs(): freed 0 structs 
Sep 11 18:54:33 localhost cpufreqd: get_rule_hits(): hits for conservative: 6 
Sep 11 18:54:33 localhost cpufreqd: get_rule_hits(): hits for lo_cpu_boost: 2 
Sep 11 18:54:33 localhost cpufreqd: get_rule_hits(): hits for hi_cpu_boost: 2 
Sep 11 18:54:33 localhost cpufreqd: get_rule_hits(): hits for AC_on: 8 
Sep 11 18:54:33 localhost cpufreqd: get_rule_hits(): checked 76 processes 
Sep 11 18:54:33 localhost cpufreqd: get_rule_hits(): hits for dvd_watching: 6 
Sep 11 18:54:33 localhost cpufreqd: find_valid_rule(): necessary hits: 8 
Sep 11 18:54:33 localhost cpufreqd: find_valid_rule(): name AC_on, hits: 8, 
necessary: 8 
Sep 11 18:54:35 localhost cpufreqd: scan_system_info(): battery present - 99 - 
on-line 
Sep 11 18:54:35 localhost cpufreqd: get_cpu(): CPU c_user=1061415 c_nice=0 
c_sys=228202 c_idle=17843608 c_iowait=239481 c_irq=95368 c_softirq=9066. 
Sep 11 18:54:35 localhost cpufreqd: get_cpu(): CPU delta_activity=4 
delta_time=200 weighted_activity=1394051. 
Sep 11 18:54:35 localhost cpufreqd: get_cpu(): CPU usage = 2. 
Sep 11 18:54:35 localhost cpufreqd: get_running_programs(): read 76 processes 
Sep 11 18:54:35 localhost cpufreqd: get_running_programs(): freed 0 structs 
Sep 11 18:54:35 localhost cpufreqd: get_rule_hits(): hits for conservative: 6 
Sep 11 18:54:35 localhost cpufreqd: get_rule_hits(): hits for lo_cpu_boost: 2 
Sep 11 18:54:35 localhost cpufreqd: get_rule_hits(): hits for hi_cpu_boost: 2 
Sep 11 18:54:35 localhost cpufreqd: get_rule_hits(): hits for AC_on: 8 
Sep 11 18:54:35 localhost cpufreqd: get_rule_hits(): checked 76 processes 
Sep 11 18:54:35 localhost cpufreqd: get_rule_hits(): hits for dvd_watching: 6 
Sep 11 18:54:35 localhost cpufreqd: find_valid_rule(): necessary hits: 8 
Sep 11 18:54:35 localhost cpufreqd: find_valid_rule(): name AC_on, hits: 8, 
necessary: 8 
Jan  1 10:02:57 localhost syslogd 1.4.1#17: restart.



Re: Research on cpufreq for power management - please help

2005-09-11 Thread Daniele Menozzi
On  19:36:34 10/Sep , Matthias Grimm wrote:
 
 Hi,
 I need some information from machines with scalable CPU frequency.
 Could you please send me the contents of /sys/devices/cpu/cpu0/* ?
 The following line may help you with this
 
   for i in /sys/devices/cpu/cpu0/*/*; do echo $i; cat $i; done

On my Ibook I've found them here: /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/*/*

  
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/shine# for i in /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/*/*; do 
echo $i; cat $i; done
/sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/affected_cpus
0
/sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/cpuinfo_cur_freq
90
/sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/cpuinfo_max_freq
90
/sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/cpuinfo_min_freq
40
/sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_available_governors
powersave userspace performance 
/sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_cur_freq
90
/sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_driver
powermac
/sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_governor
performance
/sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_max_freq
90
/sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_min_freq
594000
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/shine# cat /proc/cpuinfo 
processor   : 0
cpu : 750FX
temperature : 15-17 C (uncalibrated)
clock   : 900MHz
revision: 2.3 (pvr 7000 0203)
bogomips: 1785.85
machine : PowerBook4,3
motherboard : PowerBook4,3 MacRISC2 MacRISC Power Macintosh
detected as : 257 (iBook 2 rev. 2)
pmac flags  : 001b
L2 cache: 512K unified
memory  : 384MB
pmac-generation : NewWorld
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/shine# 

ciao
Menoz
 
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Re: Research on cpufreq for power management - please help

2005-09-11 Thread Bin Zhang
On 9/10/05, Matthias Grimm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Hi,
 I need some information from machines with scalable CPU frequency.
 Could you please send me the contents of /sys/devices/cpu/cpu0/* ?
 The following line may help you with this
 
   for i in /sys/devices/cpu/cpu0/*/*; do echo $i; cat $i; done

 
-
# for i in /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/*/*; do echo $i; cat $i; done
/sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/affected_cpus
0
/sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/cpuinfo_cur_freq
59
/sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/cpuinfo_max_freq
119
/sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/cpuinfo_min_freq
59
/sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_available_frequencies
119 59
/sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_available_governors
powersave userspace performance
/sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_cur_freq
59
/sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_driver
powermac
/sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_governor
userspace
/sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_max_freq
119
/sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_min_freq
59
/sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_setspeed
59
/sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/stats
cat: /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/stats: Is a directory
---

---
# for i in /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/*/*/*; do echo $i; cat $i; done
/sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/stats/time_in_state
119 214407
59 1646240
/sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/stats/total_trans
305
/sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/stats/trans_table
   From  :To
 :   11959
  119: 0   153
   59:   152 0
-

Bin

 I do some research on this issue to integrate CPU scaling policy into a
 future power management concept. Your help will be appreciated.
 
   Best Regrads
 Matthias
 
 
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Re: Research on cpufreq for power management - please help

2005-09-11 Thread Matthias Grimm
On Sat, 10 Sep 2005 19:36:34 +0200
Matthias Grimm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi,
Whow, a lot of helpfull people here :-)

Thanks to everybody. I think for now I have enough data.
Thanks again for your pretty fast help.

  Best Regards
Matthias


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how to install debian on imac?

2005-09-11 Thread Joel van Velden

Hi all

I'd like to install debian onto an iMac G5, but im not sure where to start.

Whats the best way to install debian from scratch?

Do i just use the debian-installer powerpc rc3 cdrom?
Do i need to use the updated kernel at 
http://people.debian.org/~luther/d-i/images/daily/powerpc64/cdrom64/ to 
install?


Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Regards,
Joel van Velden


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Re: how to install debian on imac?

2005-09-11 Thread Wolfgang Pfeiffer
Hi Joel

On Mon, Sep 12, 2005 at 01:11:36AM +1200, Joel van Velden wrote:
 Hi all
 
 I'd like to install debian onto an iMac G5, but im not sure where to start.


Either am I .. :) .. But if someone would donate me a G5 (  :) I'd
try to download a CD image from e.g.
http://debian.planetmirror.com/pub/debian-cd/images/3.1_r0a/powerpc/iso-cd/
(if I was in New Zealand, that is)

then try to boot from the CD I made from that image and see what
happens ... :)

Or you could buy a set of CD's/DVD's if you prefer doing that.

Oh yes, nearly fotgot it:: There's perhaps some menu after you boot
from a CD: Try to find the help button (F1, the TAB key ?) and make
sure they have a 2.6 kernel that'll be installed. I'm just not sure
whether current images still offer some 2.4 kernels to install ... :)

 
 Whats the best way to install debian from scratch?

For example:

http://www.debian.org/ports/powerpc/

I was very lucky with Brandon Robinson's guide for disk partitioning
that I used to get Linux installed to my Powerbook 2 or 3 years ago:
You'll find the link to it on the page above: 
Branden Robinson's Installing Debian 3.0 onto an Apple iBook

And if you have a router or some such, or simply an open Internet
connection than you can can use to get your G5 getting plugged into
during install I'd try that. You probably can save yourself some
time/money if you install most of the system simply via a net install
...

Keeping the first Debian CD is anyway a good idea for recovery
purposes (messed up boot manager or kernel, stuff like that: It
probably happens to everyone at some point ... :)

 
 Do i just use the debian-installer powerpc rc3 cdrom?
 Do i need to use the updated kernel at 
 http://people.debian.org/~luther/d-i/images/daily/powerpc64/cdrom64/ to 
 install?

I'd always try to keep things as simple as possible: Just getting some
CD and doing what I wrote above ... After all a computer should make
your life easier, and not more difficult than necessary.  

A little prayer or so perhaps also won't hurt too much, at some point
... :)

 
 Any help would be greatly appreciated.

  [ ... ]

HTH

Good luck!

Best Regards
  Wolfgang

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Re: recompiling alsa module w kernel 2.4.21-ben2

2005-09-11 Thread Tim Baverstock
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I think 'make-kpkg clean' may be involved somewhere.

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Re: how to install debian on imac?

2005-09-11 Thread Sven Luther
On Sun, Sep 11, 2005 at 08:27:32PM +0200, Wolfgang Pfeiffer wrote:
 Hi Joel
 
 On Mon, Sep 12, 2005 at 01:11:36AM +1200, Joel van Velden wrote:
  Hi all
  
  I'd like to install debian onto an iMac G5, but im not sure where to start.
 
 
 Either am I .. :) .. But if someone would donate me a G5 (  :) I'd
 try to download a CD image from e.g.
 http://debian.planetmirror.com/pub/debian-cd/images/3.1_r0a/powerpc/iso-cd/
 (if I was in New Zealand, that is)

You could also try out this one :

  
http://cdimage.debian.org/pub/cdimage-testing/sid_d-i/powerpc/current/debian-testing-powerpc-netinst.iso

Which needs testing, and has a ppc64 2.6.12 kernel.

Friendly,

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Re: Research on cpufreq for power management - please help

2005-09-11 Thread Jack Malmostoso
On Sat, 10 Sep 2005 20:00:15 +0200, Matthias Grimm wrote:

 I do some research on this issue to integrate CPU scaling policy into a
 future power management concept. Your help will be appreciated.

I hope I am not late :)

iBook G4, 800MHz:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$  for i in /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/*/*; do echo $i; 
cat $i; done
/sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/affected_cpus

0
/sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/cpuinfo_cur_freq
cat: /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/cpuinfo_cur_freq: Permission denied
/sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/cpuinfo_max_freq
798720
/sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/cpuinfo_min_freq
606000
/sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_available_frequencies
798720 606000
/sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_available_governors
powersave userspace performance
/sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_cur_freq
798720
/sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_driver
powermac
/sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_governor
userspace
/sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_max_freq
798720
/sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_min_freq
606000
/sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_setspeed
798720

Please note that I had to add system in the path. I run a 2.6.13 kernel.

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ cat /proc/cpuinfo
processor   : 0
cpu : 7455, altivec supported
clock   : 798MHz
revision: 0.3 (pvr 8001 0303)
bogomips: 804.39
machine : PowerBook6,3
motherboard : PowerBook6,3 MacRISC3 Power Macintosh
detected as : 287 (iBook G4)
pmac flags  : 001b
L2 cache: 256K unified
memory  : 640MB
pmac-generation : NewWorld

Thanks for your work!

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Re: how to install debian on imac?

2005-09-11 Thread Wolfgang Pfeiffer
On Sun, Sep 11, 2005 at 10:20:37PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote:
 On Sun, Sep 11, 2005 at 08:27:32PM +0200, Wolfgang Pfeiffer wrote:
  Hi Joel
  
  On Mon, Sep 12, 2005 at 01:11:36AM +1200, Joel van Velden wrote:
   Hi all
   
   I'd like to install debian onto an iMac G5, but im not sure where to 
   start.
  
  
  Either am I .. :) .. But if someone would donate me a G5 (  :) I'd
  try to download a CD image from e.g.
  http://debian.planetmirror.com/pub/debian-cd/images/3.1_r0a/powerpc/iso-cd/
  (if I was in New Zealand, that is)
 
 You could also try out this one :
 
   
 http://cdimage.debian.org/pub/cdimage-testing/sid_d-i/powerpc/current/debian-testing-powerpc-netinst.iso
 
 Which needs testing, and has a ppc64 2.6.12 kernel.

  [ ... ]

Ah yes. So your message together with this page:
http://debian-ppc64.alioth.debian.org/READ_ME 
looks to me like ppc64 isn't supported yet in
stable/testing/unstable. Please correct me someone if I'm wrong .. 

Anyway:

Most packages for ppc64 seem to be ready for testing or unstable,
IINM ..

An excerpt from this READ_ME from the page above:
---
6. Status of the PPC64 Port

The ppc64 archive on alioth has about 95% of the source packages
from Debian 'unstable' compiled. 

Most of the missing packages fail to build because of serious bugs
which are not ppc64 specific.
___


HTH

BestRegards
  Wolfgang

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Re: how to install debian on imac?

2005-09-11 Thread Sven Luther
On Sun, Sep 11, 2005 at 11:42:57PM +0200, Wolfgang Pfeiffer wrote:
 On Sun, Sep 11, 2005 at 10:20:37PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote:
  On Sun, Sep 11, 2005 at 08:27:32PM +0200, Wolfgang Pfeiffer wrote:
   Hi Joel
   
   On Mon, Sep 12, 2005 at 01:11:36AM +1200, Joel van Velden wrote:
Hi all

I'd like to install debian onto an iMac G5, but im not sure where to 
start.
   
   
   Either am I .. :) .. But if someone would donate me a G5 (  :) I'd
   try to download a CD image from e.g.
   http://debian.planetmirror.com/pub/debian-cd/images/3.1_r0a/powerpc/iso-cd/
   (if I was in New Zealand, that is)
  
  You could also try out this one :
  

  http://cdimage.debian.org/pub/cdimage-testing/sid_d-i/powerpc/current/debian-testing-powerpc-netinst.iso
  
  Which needs testing, and has a ppc64 2.6.12 kernel.
 
   [ ... ]
 
 Ah yes. So your message together with this page:
 http://debian-ppc64.alioth.debian.org/READ_ME 
 looks to me like ppc64 isn't supported yet in
 stable/testing/unstable. Please correct me someone if I'm wrong .. 

debian-ppc64 web pages on alioth have absolutely no relationship in any way to
what debian supports or not. The ppc64 alioth effort is a two-person effort to
fork debian in order to have a pure-64 set of packages, even though benh and
others have told us repeteadly that pure-64 is in general considerably slower
and not-needed.

Debian/sarge (stable) has support for ppc64 processors in the form of the
32bit power3/power4 kernels, and 32bit userland.

Debian/etch|sid have now a biarch toolchain producing 32bit code by default
and 64bit code with the -m64 code, this toolchain is now in etch, i believe,
and is used to build the 2.6.12 debian official kernels (flavour powerpc64),
which should go into etch this evening or pretty soon.

Debian-installer has started to being adapted to 2.6.12 kernels (in fact the
daily builds are now built using 2.6.12 kernels) but kernel-installer is
somewhat flakey yet and needs fixing, and i think debian-cd needs adjustement
to the new images, and this will be fixed at the latest during the d-i
oldenbourg meeting sept 21. to 25.

But you can without problem install sarge and upgrade to sid, or even use my
backported udev packages together with the sid linux-image-2.6.12-powerpc64
packages. Or simply upgrade to etch/sid.

 Anyway:
 
 Most packages for ppc64 seem to be ready for testing or unstable,
 IINM ..

Sure, and is a total waste of space, bandwidth and time, and will make your
system slower, don't use it.

 An excerpt from this READ_ME from the page above:
 ---
 6. Status of the PPC64 Port
 
 The ppc64 archive on alioth has about 95% of the source packages
 from Debian 'unstable' compiled. 
 
 Most of the missing packages fail to build because of serious bugs
 which are not ppc64 specific.
 ___

yeah, and he introduced cruft related to his ppc64 effort into a
non-negligible number of debian packages, which will later have to be removed,
thanks very much.

Just ignore that effort, and stay with the real thing.

Friendly,

Sven Luther


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Re: how to install debian on imac?

2005-09-11 Thread Eduardo TrĂ¡pani

Hi!


I'd like to install debian onto an iMac G5, but im not sure where to start.

Whats the best way to install debian from scratch?

Do i just use the debian-installer powerpc rc3 cdrom?


No, that will not work.

Do i need to use the updated kernel at 
http://people.debian.org/~luther/d-i/images/daily/powerpc64/cdrom64/ to 
install?


Yes, you have to.  I've just done it and I'm really happy to finally 
have my G5 with Debian.


Please, read the thread Installing Debian on a iMac G5 on this very 
same list, it's only a week old.  It's always best to check the archives 
to see if the subject has already been dealt with.


Eduardo.


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Re: help with airport card on g3 powerbook

2005-09-11 Thread gm c
The question of the encription key has been brought up. I have
connected to the ap (base station) with the card using os9. The card
and ap should work with linux.

As I understand, when the module(s) for the airport card are
installed I can iwconfig in a terminal and see the essid and key etc.
for the signal received (strongest if more than one) by the card. If
there is more than one ap I can use iwconfig eth1 essid essid-for-aaa
to specify what ap will be targeted. When I ifup eth1 the specs in
/etc/networks/interfaces about essid and key will be used to
establish what ap to ask for ip address (if dhcp). No ip number is
given if no ap is shown.
interfaces--
iface eth1 inet dhcp
wireless-essid essid-for-aaa
wireless-key key-for-aaa

When I iwconfig eth1 essid essid-for-aaa and then iwconfig I dont see
ap number. Without a number a connection wont be made. I can get that
ap number in about one of 100 attempts at iwconfig eth1 essid any.

Why isnt the ap found and reported when I load the driver and
iwconfig?? 
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