Re[2]: News
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Re: Hwo to get the display on external monitor or videoprojector
On 2005-10-07 12:25:54 +0200, Philippe Hupé wrote: I made the modifications suggested by Peter. But nothing happens. At boot, my external monitor keeps white. Does anybody have an idea? On my PowerBook G4 (PowerBook3,2) with ATI Technologies Inc Rage Mobility M3 AGP 2x (rev 02), I use m3mirror and the attached kernel patch (by Julien BLACHE). This has the advantage to work with the console too. -- Vincent Lefèvre [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Web: http://www.vinc17.org/ 100% accessible validated (X)HTML - Blog: http://www.vinc17.org/blog/ Work: CR INRIA - computer arithmetic / SPACES project at LORIA --- arch/ppc/syslib/prom_init.c.old 2005-03-02 08:38:33.0 +0100 +++ arch/ppc/syslib/prom_init.c 2005-04-16 22:51:20.0 +0200 @@ -401,7 +401,7 @@ break; } - for (j=0; jprom_num_displays; j++) { + for (j=0; j1; j++) { path = prom_display_paths[j]; node = prom_display_nodes[j]; prom_print(opening display );
Re: Anyone experiencing bash hangs?
Junichi Uekawa [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi, I'm experiencing intermittent bash hangs; it seems to be stuck at 100% CPU usage waiting for some process to end. Is there anyone experiencing similar problem? It seems to happen when I'm hitting ctrl-c in the command-line. Not sure whether we are experiencing the same problem. Here, in a terminal under X, such as mlterm, the terminal would hang suddenly at random, and my ibook starts beeping, then the whole system dies. I have to press `Ctrl + Apple + Power' to reboot the system. After retrying and reproducing several times, it seems pressing TAB key is the main cause. This problem is really weird. For this reason, i dare not use any terminals under X. While, luckily, Emacs(who provides several shells) and Console don't have the above problem, they save me. :-) -- William -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Airport Extreme works on linux!
On 9/2/05, Matteo Bigoi - Bigo! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: See http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-365647.html There is a new gentoo archive mol-0.9.71_pre3 more generic for other distributions. http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-365647-postdays-0-postorder-asc-start-75.html#top It works on my ibook g4 debian unstable after a little path (attached). (I must build it as root.) Best regards, Bin You have to run mol and use a tunl net device. Tomorrow I will try this strange method to use a wireless card and I will post my results! Ciao Bigo! -- E' piu' facile modificare le specifiche per adeguarle al software piuttosto che viceversa. [Anonimo] -- Registered Linux User # 365044 http://dust.homelinux.org Please don't send me any Micro$oft attachments! -- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] diff -Nur mol-0.9.71_pre3/Makefile.dist mol-0.9.71_pre3+1/Makefile.dist --- mol-0.9.71_pre3/Makefile.dist 2005-01-18 00:07:07.0 +0100 +++ mol-0.9.71_pre3+1/Makefile.dist 2005-10-12 08:18:06.0 +0200 @@ -123,6 +123,7 @@ @$(INSTALL_DATA) $(molshare)/syms/of_words $(_datadir)/syms/ @$(INSTALL_DATA) $(molshare)/nvram/nvram.dist $(_datadir)/nvram/ @$(INSTALL_DATA) $(molshare)/nvram/nvram.dist $(_vardir)/nvram.nw + @$(INSTALL_DATA) $(molshare)/nvram/nvram.x $(_vardir)/ @$(MAKE) -C Doc install chmod u+s $(_libdir)/bin/mol diff -Nur mol-0.9.71_pre3/src/kmod/entry.S mol-0.9.71_pre3+1/src/kmod/entry.S --- mol-0.9.71_pre3/src/kmod/entry.S2005-01-18 00:07:06.0 +0100 +++ mol-0.9.71_pre3+1/src/kmod/entry.S 2005-10-12 08:13:19.0 +0200 @@ -55,7 +55,7 @@ mtcrr3 // msr to be used in mac-mode - LOADI r3,MSR_ME | MSR_IR | MSR_DR | MSR_PR | MSR_EE + LOADI r3,(MSR_ME | MSR_IR | MSR_DR | MSR_PR | MSR_EE) stw r3,K_MSR(r1) PERF_MONITOR_SETUP /**/ r4 diff -Nur mol-0.9.71_pre3/src/kmod/splitmode.S mol-0.9.71_pre3+1/src/kmod/splitmode.S --- mol-0.9.71_pre3/src/kmod/splitmode.S2005-01-18 00:07:06.0 +0100 +++ mol-0.9.71_pre3+1/src/kmod/splitmode.S 2005-10-12 08:13:41.0 +0200 @@ -332,7 +332,7 @@ sync// 74xx needs this mtsrr0 r2 // The simplest thing is to do an RFI - LOADI r3,MSR_EE | MSR_PR | MSR_IR | MSR_SE | MSR_BE + LOADI r3,(MSR_EE | MSR_PR | MSR_IR | MSR_SE | MSR_BE) andcr4,r7,r3// Clear msr bits (r7=srr1) xGPR_LOAD R6 xGPR_LOAD R7 diff -Nur mol-0.9.71_pre3/src/molelf/init.S mol-0.9.71_pre3+1/src/molelf/init.S --- mol-0.9.71_pre3/src/molelf/init.S 2005-01-18 00:07:06.0 +0100 +++ mol-0.9.71_pre3+1/src/molelf/init.S 2005-10-12 08:12:44.0 +0200 @@ -102,7 +102,7 @@ GLOBL(_start): LOADI r1,stackspace - LOADI r3,STACK_SIZE-4096 + LOADI r3,(STACK_SIZE-4096) add r1,r1,r3 rlwinm r1,r1,0,~0xf li r3,0
Resolution 800*600 on Powerbook 15' 1.67
Hi Everyone, I've been using Unix/Linux for years, but just now starting to use Gnome/KDE. I have both loaded on my Powerbook 1.67Ghz 15 inch, but the screen resolution only displays @ 800*600. Any pointers? One other question. I have a leftover Belkin Wi-fi Card F5F7010 from my dead powerbook... will that work with DebianPPC? Thanks for the help and pointers, J -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Resolution 800*600 on Powerbook 15' 1.67
On Wed, 2005-10-12 at 13:13 -0400, Jay States wrote: One other question. I have a leftover Belkin Wi-fi Card F5F7010 from my dead powerbook... will that work with DebianPPC? IIRC, it's the same chipset as the built-in one. johannes signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: News
Breaking news alert issue - big news coming. Allixon International Corporation A X C P . P K We give it to you again as a gift. This company is doing incredible things. They have cash and have made great strategic aquisitions. Current price is $4.70. Short term projection is $8. This company has dropped big new's in the past. Who's to say they don't have another big one. PASTIME, n. A device for promoting dejection. Gentle exercise for intellectual debility. Money is better than poverty, if only for financial reasons. I came from a disadvantaged home. They were Republicans. Not even computers will replace committees, because committees buy computers. There is nothing either good or bad, but thinking makes it so. It is only shallow people who do not judge by appearances. I detest converts almost as much as I do missionaries. Our deeds determine us, as much as we determine our deeds. We are healed from suffering only by experiencing it to the full. If marriage is your object,You'd better start loving your subject. If the world were a logical place, men would ride sidesaddle. The superfluous is very necessary. Love, n - A temporary insanity curable by marriage. He who can, does. He who cannot, teaches. The longer I live the more beautiful life becomes. RESTITUTOR, n. Benefactor; philanthropist. We are drowning in information and starved for knowledge. My mother buried three husbands, and two of them were just napping. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: powerpc d-i daily builds reactivated, use 2.6.12 kernels, including 64bit kernels, miboot floppies dropped for now.
Le lundi 10 octobre 2005 à 15:24 +0200, Sven Luther a écrit : On Mon, Oct 10, 2005 at 03:14:00PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: On Mon, Oct 10, 2005 at 03:03:13PM +0200, Jerome Warnier wrote: Nope, they are available since a couple of weeks :) Sorry, but there is only cdrom, hd-media, and netboot in http://people.debian.org/~luther/d-i/images/daily/powerpc/. Is it netboot? Oh, damn, the floppies are still disabled then, will fix for tomorrow then. The main problem is that the drivers and other images are way too big for floppies. Ah, joeyh disabled them and forgot to reenable them once the miboot kernels entered the archive :/ So, I tried those available right now, and the boot image does not work (the Mac ejects the floppy automatically after trying to read it). Friendly, Sven Luther
Re: Airport Extreme works on linux!
On 10/12/05, Bin Zhang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 9/2/05, Matteo Bigoi - Bigo! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: See http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-365647.html There is a new gentoo archive mol-0.9.71_pre3 more generic for other distributions. http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-365647-postdays-0-postorder-asc-start-75.html#top It works on my ibook g4 debian unstable after a little path (attached). (I must build it as root.) Update : The gentoo mol-0.9.71_pre4 (including my patch) is out : http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-p-2794665.html#2794665 Bin Best regards, Bin You have to run mol and use a tunl net device. Tomorrow I will try this strange method to use a wireless card and I will post my results! Ciao Bigo! -- E' piu' facile modificare le specifiche per adeguarle al software piuttosto che viceversa. [Anonimo] -- Registered Linux User # 365044 http://dust.homelinux.org Please don't send me any Micro$oft attachments! -- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
How to get rid of sungem at boot time?
Hi All 2.6.12, TitaniumIV, unstable. This Debian boot system seems to be obsessed to find my ethernet crap at boot time: I want to load my airport drivers, and only those, at boot time, and not the ethernet crap, and I set /etc/network/interfaces accordingly: Excerpt: __ # /etc/network/interfaces -- configuration file for ifup(8), ifdown(8) # The loopback interface auto lo iface lo inet loopback # wireless orinoco: auto eth0 iface eth0 inet dhcp pre-up /home/shorty/scripts/firewall.sh pre-up modprobe airport [ ... ] # START/STOP WEP DRIVERS: pre-up modprobe arc4 pre-up modprobe crc32c post-down rmmod arc4 post-down rmmod crc32c post-down rmmod libcrc32c # END WEP DRIVERS [ ... ] But nearly every reboot the system somehow loads these sungem(_phy) drivers, that, as far as I can see, are responsible for the mess following when the system is trying to load unsuccessfully eth0 (airport) according to the interfaces file above. Excerpt from /var/log/kern.log from, IINM, boot time, mentioning sungem: - try `ip1394' Oct 12 21:42:43 debby kernel: [ 48.217962] ohci1394: $Rev: 1250 $ Ben Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED] Oct 12 21:42:43 debby kernel: [ 48.246573] ohci1394: fw-host0: Unexpected PCI resource length of 1000! Oct 12 21:42:43 debby kernel: [ 48.305601] ohci1394: fw-host0: OHCI-1394 1.0 ( PCI): IRQ=[40] MMIO=[f500-f50007ff] Max Packet=[2048] ...skipping... Oct 12 21:42:43 debby kernel: [ 48.979710] sungem.c:v0.98 8/24/03 David S. Miller (davem@redhat.com) Oct 12 21:42:43 debby kernel: [ 49.049083] PHY ID: 2060e1, addr: 0 Oct 12 21:42:43 debby kernel: [ 49.066211] eth0: Sun GEM (PCI) 10/100/1000BaseOct 12 21:42:43 debby kernel: [ 49.073393] eth0: Found BCM5421 PHY 023] GUID[000393fffecde4c4] [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1394 Ethernet (fw-host0) e, 2048kB Cache, DMA 0 Oct 12 21:42:43 debby kernel: [ 55.835366] NET: Registered protocol family 10 ce c02cb330(lo) Oct 12 21:42:43 debby kernel: [ 55.846722] IPv6 over IPv4 tunneling driver core team ets, 49152 max) - 248 bytes per conntrack - So anyone knows which app/config at boot time might be responsible for loading the sungem stuff? I already completely removed discover to fix this: apt-get remove discover1-data discover1 libdiscover1 but to no avail so far ... Where are these apps/files that load this ethernet crap? Hal, udev, hotplug? I already grepped the whole /etc/ area for the eth pattern and such, but nothing so far ... And sure, I know I can blacklist sungem altogether somewhere in /etc/hotplug .. But I think it's brain-dead to firstly let some routine/script try loading a driver I don't want, and then remove it again via the hotplug stuff. That's why I'm looking for this boot routine that's obsessed by the idea to load sungem ... Just in case: No, sungem is not loaded via /etc/modules. Ah yes, nearly forgot that: Loading my airport card manually after booting works like charm, after unloading the airport etc./sungem(_phy) drivers. So it seems it's simply a lousy boot time set up being responsible for the mess Again: My primary target is to get *sensibly* rid of sungem and sungem_phy being loaded at boot time. Any hints? Thanks in anticipation Wolfgang -- Wolfgang Pfeiffer http://profiles.yahoo.com/wolfgangpfeiffer Key ID: E3037113 Key fingerprint = A8CA 9D8C 54C4 4CC1 0B26 AA3C 9108 FB42 E303 7113 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
apt (intentionally?) brain dead?
Hi All Once upon, IIRC, there were times when apt did very intelligently automatically what I have to do now myself: When I tried to install a package, apt-get/aptitude calculated the dependencies on other packages for the one I wanted to install and then installed the whole bunch of packages necessary for the installation of the one i needed. It seems times have changed: Either apt/aptitude is braindead and on the brink of becoming unusable, or, alternatively, the Debian folks intentionally changed the software in a way where apt-get does not do any more what it did some time ago. In the latter case the bug (again: It's not a bug: I call it brain dead) would be an intentionally designed feature. Please look at this (for better readability I slightly edited the following): [root@ 19:04:02]# apt-get --simulate install gconf2 Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree... 0% Building dependency tree... Done You might want to run `apt-get -f install' to correct these: The following packages have unmet dependencies: gconf2: Depends: gconf2-common (= 2.10.1-6) but it is not going to be installed Conflicts: libgconf2-4 ( 2.10.1-3) but 2.10.1-1 is to be installed gnome-core: Depends: bug-buddy (= 2.10.0) but 2.8.0-3 is to be installed E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution). [root@ 19:17:06]# [root@ 19:17:06]# apt-get --simulate install gconf2 bug-buddy gconf2-common libgconf2-4 Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree... Done The following NEW packages will be installed: gconf2-common The following packages will be upgraded: bug-buddy gconf2 libgconf2-4 3 upgraded, 1 newly installed, 0 to remove and 173 not upgraded. Inst gconf2-common (2.10.1-6 Debian:unstable) [gnome-core ] Inst libgconf2-4 [2.10.1-1] (2.10.1-6 Debian:unstable) [gnome-core ] Inst bug-buddy [2.8.0-3] (2.10.0-3 Debian:unstable) Inst gconf2 [2.10.1-1] (2.10.1-6 Debian:unstable) Conf gconf2-common (2.10.1-6 Debian:unstable) Conf libgconf2-4 (2.10.1-6 Debian:unstable) Conf bug-buddy (2.10.0-3 Debian:unstable) Conf gconf2 (2.10.1-6 Debian:unstable) [root@ 19:17:54]# Again: Is it brain dead software or a feature? Or what did I miss? Thanks in anticipation Best Regards Wolfgang -- Wolfgang Pfeiffer http://profiles.yahoo.com/wolfgangpfeiffer Key ID: E3037113 Key fingerprint = A8CA 9D8C 54C4 4CC1 0B26 AA3C 9108 FB42 E303 7113 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to get rid of sungem at boot time?
On Thu, 2005-10-13 at 00:12 +0200, Wolfgang Pfeiffer wrote: So anyone knows which app/config at boot time might be responsible for loading the sungem stuff? I already completely removed discover to fix this: sungem is your built-in ethernet. It show up on the PCI bus, thus hotplug will automatically load the driver. Besides, it's a good thing anyway as the sungem driver will deal with power management of the chip even when you are not using it, for example, for sleep mode. It's just a wrong way of thinking that you should remove drivers for HW you do not use in fact :) The problem here is assuming any kind of stability of the ethX numbers. This can't work. Ever. You need some other ways of identifying your interfaces. I don't know if debian network configure scripts provide any such thing though. apt-get remove discover1-data discover1 libdiscover1 but to no avail so far ... Where are these apps/files that load this ethernet crap? Hal, udev, hotplug? It's not crap, it's your ethernet interface and the drivers should be loaded :) And yes, it's probably hotplug. I already grepped the whole /etc/ area for the eth pattern and such, but nothing so far ... And sure, I know I can blacklist sungem altogether somewhere in /etc/hotplug .. But I think it's brain-dead to firstly let some routine/script try loading a driver I don't want, Bla bla bla bla.. and then remove it again via the hotplug stuff. That's why I'm looking for this boot routine that's obsessed by the idea to load sungem ... Because you have the hw, so it loads the driver, period. Just in case: No, sungem is not loaded via /etc/modules. Ah yes, nearly forgot that: Loading my airport card manually after booting works like charm, after unloading the airport etc./sungem(_phy) drivers. So it seems it's simply a lousy boot time set up being responsible for the mess airport isn't (yet) auto-detected by hotplug (soon). When that will happen, your airport driver will also be automagically loaded and there is no way to know which one will end up eth0 and which one will end up eth1. Again: My primary target is to get *sensibly* rid of sungem and sungem_phy being loaded at boot time. I'm sure if you put your machine on the floor, then jump on it several times until it splits in at least 3 or 4 pieces, sungem will no longer be loaded at boot time. Ben. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: apt (intentionally?) brain dead?
On Thu, 2005-10-13 at 00:13 +0200, Wolfgang Pfeiffer wrote: Hi All Once upon, IIRC, there were times when apt did very intelligently automatically what I have to do now myself: When I tried to install a package, apt-get/aptitude calculated the dependencies on other packages for the one I wanted to install and then installed the whole bunch of packages necessary for the installation of the one i needed. It seems times have changed: Either apt/aptitude is braindead and on the brink of becoming unusable, or, alternatively, the Debian folks intentionally changed the software in a way where apt-get does not do any more what it did some time ago. In the latter case the bug (again: It's not a bug: I call it brain dead) would be an intentionally designed feature. I think it happens when the dependency triggers an upgrade of a dependent package, and that upgrade would break another package (unless you also update it). Note too sure though... Ben. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Resolution 800*600 on Powerbook 15' 1.67
On Wed, 2005-10-12 at 13:13 -0400, Jay States wrote: Hi Everyone, I've been using Unix/Linux for years, but just now starting to use Gnome/KDE. I have both loaded on my Powerbook 1.67Ghz 15 inch, but the screen resolution only displays @ 800*600. Any pointers? What is in your X config ? Normally, if you put nothing in there for the monitor or screen resolution, the driver should automatically probe your panel default resolution... Ben. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to get rid of sungem at boot time?
On Thu, 2005-10-13 at 09:57 +1000, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote: The problem here is assuming any kind of stability of the ethX numbers. This can't work. Ever. You need some other ways of identifying your interfaces. I don't know if debian network configure scripts provide any such thing though. ifrename helps. johannes signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: apt (intentionally?) brain dead?
On Thu, Oct 13, 2005 at 10:00:31AM +1000, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote: On Thu, 2005-10-13 at 00:13 +0200, Wolfgang Pfeiffer wrote: Hi All Once upon, IIRC, there were times when apt did very intelligently automatically what I have to do now myself: When I tried to install a package, apt-get/aptitude calculated the dependencies on other packages for the one I wanted to install and then installed the whole bunch of packages necessary for the installation of the one i needed. It seems times have changed: Either apt/aptitude is braindead and on the brink of becoming unusable, or, alternatively, the Debian folks intentionally changed the software in a way where apt-get does not do any more what it did some time ago. In the latter case the bug (again: It's not a bug: I call it brain dead) would be an intentionally designed feature. I think it happens when the dependency triggers an upgrade of a dependent package, and that upgrade would break another package (unless you also update it). Note too sure though... In this case it may be that a package is now in the archive but certain dependencies are not yet uptodate for whatever reason. One trick is to get them manually from incoming.debian.org. The OP diddn't say but if he is following unstable, he cannot expect to have everything working at all times and must learn patience. Philippe -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]