Re: [powerpc-floppies] Help Needed : root.img too big (1489688, should be 1474560).
On Mon, Jan 09, 2006 at 12:55:51AM +0100, Sven Luther wrote: Hi, ... I am requesting, on behalf of the powerpc oldworld floppies users, some help to solve the problem of too big root.img. The file is 1489688 bytes, while the floppy size is 1474560, so it is 15128 bytes to huge. I had a quick look at the floppy pkg-lists, but i couldn't see anything obvious to move around to another floppy, maybe the the socket modules could move to the net-drivers floppy or something, but that is about it, and i think socket-modules is empty right now anyway. So, it would be very nice if someone with knowledge of the floppies would take a look and see where we can gain those 15128 bytes, maybe removing one of the console maps (we have usb and at, but oldworld only have adb keymaps, not sure what it maps to though), and also add the bit of code Frans mentioned the x86 floppies already have for failing if the image size is bigger than a floppy. I searched for it in config/i386, but failed to find anything that did something like this. I am building a stripped down version of the linux-image-powerpc-miboot right now. I will test it before sending patches. -- Hans Ekbrand (http://sociologi.cjb.net) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Q. What is that strange attachment in this mail? A. My digital signature, see www.gnupg.org for info on how you could use it to ensure that this mail is from me and has not been altered on the way to you. signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: [powerpc-floppies] Help Needed : root.img too big (1489688, should be 1474560).
On Mon, Jan 09, 2006 at 09:43:37AM +0100, Hans Ekbrand wrote: On Mon, Jan 09, 2006 at 12:55:51AM +0100, Sven Luther wrote: Hi, ... I am requesting, on behalf of the powerpc oldworld floppies users, some help to solve the problem of too big root.img. The file is 1489688 bytes, while the floppy size is 1474560, so it is 15128 bytes to huge. I had a quick look at the floppy pkg-lists, but i couldn't see anything obvious to move around to another floppy, maybe the the socket modules could move to the net-drivers floppy or something, but that is about it, and i think socket-modules is empty right now anyway. So, it would be very nice if someone with knowledge of the floppies would take a look and see where we can gain those 15128 bytes, maybe removing one of the console maps (we have usb and at, but oldworld only have adb keymaps, not sure what it maps to though), and also add the bit of code Frans mentioned the x86 floppies already have for failing if the image size is bigger than a floppy. I searched for it in config/i386, but failed to find anything that did something like this. I am building a stripped down version of the linux-image-powerpc-miboot right now. I will test it before sending patches. The kernel is not the issue, the root image is, and it involves playing with the d-i build process and the .udebs, which is why i am asking for help from the d-i floppy knowledgeable guys, since fixing this on powerpc has implication on the x86 floppies too. Friendly, Sven Luther -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Boot in console not X [Was]Re: X server problem
Found this on the archives might come in useful for anyone else that finds this thread http://www.debian.org/ports/powerpc/keycodes On 5/1/06 2:01 pm, Clive Menzies [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I remember being bitten by a keymap problem on my first ever debian install when I knew virtually nothing and trying to create a paper based map to try to input commands ... very silly :) Its got a paper map Clive! If you've got ssh installed, it is often easier to boot the machine and login from elsewhere and run something like: dpkg-reconfigure console-data That worked. Thanks to you and all for your help :) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
xorg-6.9.0 and nautilus-2.12.2-1
Hi list: Just upgraded my pbook with a nvidia card to xorg-6.9.0 and everything seems to work ok except nautilus (my version is 2.12.2-1), the desktop is drawn corrupted, every other application works ok. I've isolated the problem and if I downgrade _only_ xserver-xorg to 6.8.2 nautilus works ok. Anyone is experimenting this behaviour? A. Corbi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: xorg-6.9.0 and nautilus-2.12.2-1
Le lundi 09 janvier 2006 à 11:00 +0100, Antonio-M. Corbi Bellot a écrit : Hi list: Just upgraded my pbook with a nvidia card to xorg-6.9.0 and everything seems to work ok except nautilus (my version is 2.12.2-1), the desktop is drawn corrupted, every other application works ok. I've isolated the problem and if I downgrade _only_ xserver-xorg to 6.8.2 nautilus works ok. Anyone is experimenting this behaviour? I'm running X.Org version: 6.9.0 and Gnome nautilus 2.12.2, I don't have this problem neither x86 or ppc. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Poll: debian/powerpc woody users ...
On Jan 06 2006, Ernest Demaret wrote: Op 6-jan-2006, om 3:46 heeft Rogério Brito het volgende geschreven: Humm? That's quite strange, I'd say. Which expansion cards do you actually have (if you do have one)? None whatsoever. It's an original. Ok. So, you only have a video card in one of the slots? Would you like to experiment with the kernel that I've been using? Yes, I'd like to. If you want I can give you an FTP-account for upload. I read somewhere that there was a slight change in the 2.4 kernel in opposite to the 2.2 kernel that caused this machine to crash. That's all I know. Really funny, because, AFAIK, the machines we have are quite similar and mine works well. The only two problems that I have with this PowerMac that I inherited are: 1 - its disk is quite slow (with a maximum rate of about 2MB/s); Fast enough for his tasks. It's just generating html out of a GeneWeb database. I didn't say that your box had problems. I just said that it was slow for some of my tasks (like encoding MPEG 2 files for DVDs). That's quite a heavier task. 2 - it doesn't have much memory and even Linux programs are getting bigger all the time. :-( It's dedicated to one task only so it doesn't need so much memory. Right. I'd like to run a higher kernel though. It's more secure... Indeed. Vulnerabilities are being found all the time in the latest kernels and using a really ancient one is a bad thing, especially depending on the circumstances how the computer is installed. With regards, Ernest Demaret === This footnote also confirms that this E-mail message has been swept for computer viruses. ===
Re: How to disable 'rivafb_pan_display START' at boot ?
On Sun, Jan 08, 2006 at 09:42:02AM +1300, Adam Felix Bogacki wrote: [xxx.xx] rivafb_pan_display START [xxx.xx] rivafb_pan_display START [xxx.xx] rivafb_pan_display END [xxx.xx] rivafb_pan_display END [xxx.xx] rivafb_pan_display START [xxx.xx] rivafb_pan_display START [xxx.xx] rivafb_pan_display END [xxx.xx] rivafb_pan_display END [xxx.xx] rivafb_pan_display START [xxx.xx] rivafb_pan_display START [xxx.xx] rivafb_pan_display END [xxx.xx] rivafb_pan_display END [xxx.xx] rivafb_pan_display START [xxx.xx] rivafb_pan_display START [xxx.xx] rivafb_pan_display END [xxx.xx] rivafb_pan_display END Disable CONFIG_RIVAFB_DEBUG in you kernel configuration and rebuild. -- Guido -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: xorg-6.9.0 and nautilus-2.12.2-1
At Mon, 09 Jan 2006 11:00:56 +0100, Antonio-M. Corbi Bellot wrote: Hi list: Just upgraded my pbook with a nvidia card to xorg-6.9.0 and everything seems to work ok except nautilus (my version is 2.12.2-1), the desktop is drawn corrupted, every other application works ok. I've isolated the problem and if I downgrade _only_ xserver-xorg to 6.8.2 nautilus works ok. Anyone is experimenting this behaviour? On an iBook G4 1.33Ghz: Yesterday, after upgrading to 6.9.0.dfsg.1-2 (and restarting X), everything was fine, except the desktop was drawn corrupted, just like you say. The desktop was fine initially, but moving windows left 'trails', desktop icons were drawn twice on slighlty different positions. After booting up my laptop this morning, everything seemed fine, no trails anymore, but now something is wrong with nautilus: the background in a nautilus window shows part of itself, with the icons drawn on top of that, the information window on the left suffers from the same problem. This is with nautilus 2.10.1-5. Ruben ps: I assume you are using Gnome 1.12? How did you install this.. by temporarily giving high priority (in /etc/apt/preferences) to the experimental archive for installing Gnome? That's the only way I can think of, but it seems far from ideal. Or is there a way to force pulling dependencies from experimental when doing apt-get gnome/experimental? Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: xorg-6.9.0
At Sun, 8 Jan 2006 14:13:22 +0100, Elimar Riesebieter wrote: last night I upgraded to xorg 6.9.0.dfsg.1-2. First I had to do a ldconfig by hand, because startx was complaining about missing libs. Starting X then freezes my PowerBook5,6 completely. No net, no console. So I had to hard reset the machine. I tried the following: Just reporting that this is working fine on my iBook (PowerBook6,7), with an ATI M11 NV [FireGL Mobility T2e] (Mobility Radeon 9550 aka Apple). I didn't need to change anything on my configuration either. Installing libgl1-mesa-dri in the hope r300 is used with radeon driver - frozen machine. I wanted to try this myself, since 3d acceleration would be nice. Apt tells me the package is not available though (also checked experimental). Did you install this from source? Ruben Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: xorg-6.9.0 and nautilus-2.12.2-1
El lun, 09-01-2006 a las 14:45 +0100, Ruben escribió: On an iBook G4 1.33Ghz: Yesterday, after upgrading to 6.9.0.dfsg.1-2 (and restarting X), everything was fine, except the desktop was drawn corrupted, just like you say. The desktop was fine initially, but moving windows left 'trails', desktop icons were drawn twice on slighlty different positions. After booting up my laptop this morning, everything seemed fine, no trails anymore, but now something is wrong with nautilus: the background in a nautilus window shows part of itself, with the icons drawn on top of that, the information window on the left suffers from the same problem. This is with nautilus 2.10.1-5. I think is something related to bug #345885, at least what is described there is _exactly_ what happens to me, only that the solution suggested at the end: (Option AccelMethod EXA) does not work for me :( Ruben ps: I assume you are using Gnome 1.12? How did you install this.. by temporarily giving high priority (in /etc/apt/preferences) to the experimental archive for installing Gnome? That's the only way I can think of, but it seems far from ideal. Or is there a way to force pulling dependencies from experimental when doing apt-get gnome/experimental? Yes I use gnome-2.12.x since it was in experimental, now it's (or almost) in unstable. A. Corbi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: More on ibook
In Gnome you're perhaps getting asked, when you log in, whether .xmodmap should be loaded by Gnome. If not, .. *and* if you don't like the default Gnome keyboard settings .. The choice of the alt key by X on powerbooks is atrocious. There's a problem with fixing this in the gnome session, though: it won't take effect until after login. This really needs to be fixed in the xkb data files (which I find even more atrocious to grok, bah). Michael -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: xorg-6.9.0
On Mon, 09 Jan 2006 the mental interface of Ruben told: At Sun, 8 Jan 2006 14:13:22 +0100, Elimar Riesebieter wrote: last night I upgraded to xorg 6.9.0.dfsg.1-2. First I had to do a ldconfig by hand, because startx was complaining about missing libs. Starting X then freezes my PowerBook5,6 completely. No net, no console. So I had to hard reset the machine. I tried the following: Just reporting that this is working fine on my iBook (PowerBook6,7), with an ATI M11 NV [FireGL Mobility T2e] (Mobility Radeon 9550 aka Apple). I didn't need to change anything on my configuration either. Installing libgl1-mesa-dri in the hope r300 is used with radeon driver - frozen machine. I wanted to try this myself, since 3d acceleration would be nice. Apt tells me the package is not available though (also checked experimental). Did you install this from source? You have to compile the mesa sources: apt-get source mesa. For me I've updated to 6.4.1. Elimar -- what IMHO then? IMHO - Inhalation of a Multi-leafed Herbal Opiate ;) --posting from alex in debian-user-- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: xorg-6.9.0 and nautilus-2.12.2-1
Ruben wrote: ps: I assume you are using Gnome 1.12? How did you install this.. by temporarily giving high priority (in /etc/apt/preferences) to the experimental archive for installing Gnome? That's the only way I can think of, but it seems far from ideal. Or is there a way to force pulling dependencies from experimental when doing apt-get gnome/experimental? you could do: apt-get -t experimental install gnome-desktop-environment -- Yves-Alexis Perez signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: xorg-6.9.0
On Mon, 09 Jan 2006 the mental interface of Ruben told: At Sun, 8 Jan 2006 14:13:22 +0100, Elimar Riesebieter wrote: last night I upgraded to xorg 6.9.0.dfsg.1-2. First I had to do a ldconfig by hand, because startx was complaining about missing libs. Starting X then freezes my PowerBook5,6 completely. No net, no console. So I had to hard reset the machine. I tried the following: Just reporting that this is working fine on my iBook (PowerBook6,7), with an ATI M11 NV [FireGL Mobility T2e] (Mobility Radeon 9550 aka Apple). I didn't need to change anything on my configuration either. This is my Device Section: Section Device Identifier ATI Technologies, Inc. RV350 [Mobility Radeon 9600 M10] Driver radeon Option MergedFB no Option UseFBDev yes Option AGPSize 16 Option AGPMode 4 EndSection Still freezes. Elimar -- Excellent day for drinking heavily. Spike the office water cooler;-) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: xorg-6.9.0
Hi, I just update my debian powerbook (the unstable sources) a few minutes ago and it freezes. I can't start gdm cause it just hang... How can I start console and what I can do to undo this.. should I tryied to reinstall the last stable packages? thanks for your time. Orlando. On 1/9/06, Elimar Riesebieter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 09 Jan 2006 the mental interface of Ruben told: At Sun, 8 Jan 2006 14:13:22 +0100, Elimar Riesebieter wrote: last night I upgraded to xorg 6.9.0.dfsg.1-2. First I had to do a ldconfig by hand, because startx was complaining about missing libs. Starting X then freezes my PowerBook5,6 completely. No net, no console. So I had to hard reset the machine. I tried the following: Just reporting that this is working fine on my iBook (PowerBook6,7), with an ATI M11 NV [FireGL Mobility T2e] (Mobility Radeon 9550 aka Apple). I didn't need to change anything on my configuration either. This is my Device Section: Section Device Identifier ATI Technologies, Inc. RV350 [Mobility Radeon 9600 M10] Driver radeon Option MergedFB no Option UseFBDev yes Option AGPSize 16 Option AGPMode 4 EndSection Still freezes. Elimar -- Excellent day for drinking heavily. Spike the office water cooler;-) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- --- Javier O. Ramírez Martínez Key fingerprint = E7D8 22DC 5B71 72DC A06A 61F4 D823 35ED 2E67 CFB2 linux.mty.itesm.mx/~oramirez
Re: xorg-6.9.0
At Mon, 9 Jan 2006 19:20:59 +0100, Elimar Riesebieter wrote: On Mon, 09 Jan 2006 the mental interface of Ruben told: Just reporting that this is working fine on my iBook (PowerBook6,7), with an ATI M11 NV [FireGL Mobility T2e] (Mobility Radeon 9550 aka Apple). I didn't need to change anything on my configuration either. This is my Device Section: Section Device Identifier ATI Technologies, Inc. RV350 [Mobility Radeon 9600 M10] Driver radeon Option MergedFB no Option UseFBDev yes Option AGPSize 16 Option AGPMode 4 EndSection Still freezes. Section Device Identifier ATI Technologies, Inc. M11 NV [FireGL Mobility T2e] Driver ati BusID PCI:0:16:0 Option UseFBDev true EndSection I don't think I ever changed the xorg.conf generated during the installation. Didn't bother with it, since it worked. In the logs, I see it uses the Radeon driver and it disables MerfedFB since it's not compatible with USEFBDev. Ruben Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: xorg-6.9.0 and nautilus-2.12.2-1
At Mon, 09 Jan 2006 19:20:37 +0100, Yves-Alexis Perez wrote: Ruben wrote: ps: I assume you are using Gnome 1.12? How did you install this.. by temporarily giving high priority (in /etc/apt/preferences) to the experimental archive for installing Gnome? That's the only way I can think of, but it seems far from ideal. Or is there a way to force pulling dependencies from experimental when doing apt-get gnome/experimental? you could do: apt-get -t experimental install gnome-desktop-environment Thanks!! I actually know that command, but I always used package/experimental, I thought both meant the same, but there is a difference. Ruben Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Files for BootX
Hi, I am on my sixth attempt to install Debian on a Powerbook G3 (Wallstreet). I am out of ideas. I have OpenFirmware 3.0, so I tried the following: 1. boot from floppies. four floppies, two different writing methods; I think my floppy drive is too picky. 2. BootX: I could have sworn I downloaded the ramdisk.img.gz file from Debian, but, now I go back and cannot find it. I made it the farthest with this method. I got to the point where it asks for the installation CD, but, then the installer could not find the files rescue.bin and powermac/drivers.tgz. I could not find these anywhere on the CD, either. 3. yaboot. Did not work as the documentation said it would not. 4. Quik: I could not figure out how to create a unix partition for this program to use. I tried the Apple Linux Home partition, but that did not work. I was skeptical that Apple would support Linux anyhow. Acutely aware of the patience of the readership, I present the following questions in decreasing order of importance: a) Where do I get the ramdisk.img.gz and linux.bin files BootX is looking for? The installation CD and the ftp site seem to be pushing yaboot and floppies. b) Is BootX the way to go? I would like to have both MacOS9 and Sarge on the same machine. It seems reasonable and, like I wrote previously, it seemed to work the best for my setup. Thank you for your time. I appreciate any help you can offer. Chris -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Wow! Debian Developers are Doing One Terrific Job
Greetings, Just a note of thanks to all the Debian developers/builders/contributors for their tireless devotion to Debian/GNU Linux and for all the work they've done to help make Linux a viable alternative to a number of proprietary OSs. For those like me who must sit on the sidelines, given our limited experience with programming, thank you for your efforts and accomplishments. We stand in amazement at your skills and generosity. I am continually amazed at the advancements and improvements. Thanks ladies and gentlemen. Stand up and take a bow. Gratefully, Joe -- J. De Salvo Mt. Pleasant, MI, USA -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sound on iMac G5 (8,1)
Dear all, I tried a self-compiled 2.6.15-1 debian kernel which I patched to enable sound support: http://patchwork.ozlabs.org/linuxppc64/patch?id=3924 When I try to load the snd_powermac module (which crashes the machine on non-patched kernels), I encounter the following error: sorbet:~# modprobe snd_powermac FATAL: Error inserting snd_powermac (/lib/modules/2.6.15sound/kernel/sound/ppc/snd-powermac.ko): Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg) dmesg says: snd_powermac: Unknown symbol i2c_smbus_write_i2c_block_data Any hint is welcome... Best, -- Charles -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Sound on iMac G5 (8,1)
On Tue, 2006-01-10 at 11:01 +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: Dear all, I tried a self-compiled 2.6.15-1 debian kernel which I patched to enable sound support: http://patchwork.ozlabs.org/linuxppc64/patch?id=3924 When I try to load the snd_powermac module (which crashes the machine on non-patched kernels), I encounter the following error: sorbet:~# modprobe snd_powermac FATAL: Error inserting snd_powermac (/lib/modules/2.6.15sound/kernel/sound/ppc/snd-powermac.ko): Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg) dmesg says: snd_powermac: Unknown symbol i2c_smbus_write_i2c_block_data Any hint is welcome... There is no sound support for this machine yet. The patch above is irrelevant to this machine. I'm working on it though but it will take some time, please be patient :) (The patch above requires another patch to the i2c code that is only just going upstream anyway). Ben. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Files for BootX
On Mon, 2006-01-09 at 18:11 -0500, Chris Fisichella wrote: a) Where do I get the ramdisk.img.gz and linux.bin files BootX is looking for? The installation CD and the ftp site seem to be pushing yaboot and floppies. b) Is BootX the way to go? I would like to have both MacOS9 and Sarge on the same machine. It seems reasonable and, like I wrote previously, it seemed to work the best for my setup. Yes. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
